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Firstly, Ngige is a true son of Anambra state. IF he wins, he deserves it. You need to take a trip to Anambra central to see his achievements there when he was governor.

The mistake is to assume that ACN has entered Anambra state.
Onwa Anambra (Ngige) is a political party himself.

Meanwhile, get ready for Ngige 2015 Nigerian presidency under ACN.

Watch how venoms will start to fly.

@Aigbofa

If you think I'm relapsing, the facts are there. He picked them in his second term in office when we faced non-achievement after serving two terms. He had no choice. All the so called technocrats he picked from other parts of the country failed. FACT. The man became desperate, and in his desperation, he did the right thing.  

@Aigbofa

I have to say this. Knowing Obasanjo and his tribalistic proclivities; if there was anyone even remotely near the competence of those women in Yorubaland, he WOULD NOT have picked the Igbo women. FACT.
I repeat, he HAD NO CHOICE. He wanted to make a name for himself. It was all selfish. But Nigeria gained.

Posted by: Aigbofa

Yorubas are not out to get you. Many of you are just paranoid. Even Obasanjo, probably your number one enemy in Yorubaland was incredibly generous to ibos when he was president.

I'm sure that the Super Falcons coach is also being generous to Igbos by picking those girls to serve Nigeria. Abi?
You have never heard the word "competence" in your life before?

Dude, are you even able to use your head at all?

Can you even think?  

I repeat this fact.  Growing up, I was in a state of permanent awe at the achievements of Chief Mrs Bola Kuforiji -Olubi.

She still stand tall in my book of greatest Nigerian women. And she is Yoruba. How does that stop her from being a role model to my unborn daughter (God willing)?  

@Ekt_bear and fstranger,

GREAT for your families!

Now we are waiting for them to kick some a55 in naija and transform that 19th century country into a 21st century nation.

That is what I have been preaching. And I refuse to acknowledge paper tigers. I need solid pioneer effort for Nigeria.

I want them to be the FIRST, BEST of any field they are in and bring honor to Nigeria. Here I stand.  

fstranger3

So, how does that take away from the achievements of the Igbo women being discussed here?
Jealousy is really a bad thing.

Of course there have been many Nigerians who achieved a lot too and have been praised accordingly. I never see Igbos attacking such people. If anything, we improve on their achievements.

Obasanjo tried to employ the best Nigerians he could find. They only happened to be Igbos, and were among his best achieving ministers and technocrats, hence the encomiums from Fani Kayode.

He didn't do it out of altruism. He really wanted to leave a legacy, and he did not fail completely because of these women.

The Igbo pursuit of excellence has nothing to do with trying to out-compete the Yoruba.
Pray, tell me how my daughter or sister being a "Ngozi Okonjo Iweala" concern my thinking about Yoruba people.

While sending her to school, or encouraging her to excel, all I envision is her being the best in the WORLD.
That is how we Igbos view things.

^^

Ol boy does it even make sense to you. I once thought you were one sharp dude. Please don't let me down.

I'm rotfl to see that this thread made it to 12 pages. In normal societies, this wouldn't be much of a big deal, afterall we are all Nigerians. But not in Nigeria!
Watch how some folks are mining the internet just to divert as much attention as possible from this topic and by so doing diffuse away as much glory as possible from these Nigerian women.

Like I stated in another thread, Nigeria's biggest problem is not corruption. FAR FROM IT.

Nigeria's biggest problem is injustice which is a product of wickedness, which is a product of foolishness and reta-rdation.

Suddenly, praising Nigerian women of Igbo extraction has become boasting and "blowing trumpet".
If tomorrow, the Super Falcons snag the female world cup, it would no longer be true that overwhelming majority of the team is Igbo. Some folks will die first before acknowledging that fact.

Until Nigerians are able to rejoice in the achievement of fellow citizens irrespective of tribe (which currently they are incapable of), let us all keep lying to ourselves about being one.

I'm still singing the praises of my sisters, mothers and daughters. And if I have a baby girl tomorrow, I will put in my blood to send her to Harvard, Stanford or Princeton; just like my father did for me.
That is the spirit of the Igboman. . . and that is Igbo culture.     

I believe I represent a generation of Igbos who are still debating the viability of Nigeria.
The more we discuss these topics, the more we get to the truth.

@Ezeuche, spot on.

I am anti- any-group, or individuals-that- wants-Nigeria- to -stay- in- the- 19th century, than join the rest of the modern 21st century world.

In fact I hate such individuals with a venom.  

They are the reason millions of Nigerians are suffering today. Any revolution in Nigeria must kill off such individuals before we can progress as one. Else, we must divide. Simple.  

@tpiah

I was referring to Asmau if you had followed the conversation, you would have understood me.

My point is that a 19th century author who thrived even before Nigeria was formed, cannot be more relevant to Nigeria than 21st century amazons who are impacting lives even today. Simple.

^^
Pray, how?

@namfav

Dude where did I say anything about education?
Have you been smoking hashish again? Please reread my post.

As for your other reasons for not recognizing modern Nigerian women achievers, well, it is unfortunate, isn't it?

You typically capture why Nigeria will never be one, because, there is no way you can convince me that a 19th century Islamic author is more relevant to Nigeria than a 21st century technocrat who shaved billions off Nigeria's debt.

^^ source:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/03/northern-leaders-crippled-nigeria/

This article captures some of my thoughts about why a character from the north like namfav struggles with modernity.


THE recently concluded Northern Economic Summit in Kaduna provided another opportunity for soul-searching over failed dreams in the northern part of Nigeria. For me, it was an opportunity to ponder the failed dreams of Nigeria as a nation.

I am not hereby placing the blame for Nigeria’s under-performance solely on the doorstep of our leaders from the North. Everybody has a slice of the blame just as everybody has a role, duty and responsibility to turn the situation around. I am singling out Northern leaders because “to whom much is given, much is expected”.

In our 50 years of independence, Northerners led the country for a total of 37 years. The British colonial masters manipulated the system and handed over power to the North as the new overlords of the emergent entity. Northern politicians could win federal elections without bothering to campaign in the South. It was, therefore, not necessary for the new masters to draw up a plan to build a nation of proud citizens who truly belonged.

Rather, Northern leaders came to Lagos, the then capital of Nigeria, like conquerors, to dominate an imperial booty. The Northern leaders’ parochial blueprint turned Nigeria into a country where subsisting sharp differences in ethnic, religious, sectional, indigene/settler, cultural and linguistic relationships blunted the imperative of common citizenship.

There is no gainsaying the fact that the leaders of the Northern Region also had a visionary agenda for economic and political development of their region, just as did their peers in the Eastern, Western and Midwestern regions.

Even with its educational disadvantage, the North as a region never lagged behind in growth, especially in the areas of agriculture and industrialisation. When some people talk about Northerners as “parasites”, it has nothing to do with the ordinary people. The evidence of the sheer industry of the people of the North is there for all to see.

Even after the nation had long been brought down to its knees by bad leadership with Northern leaders at the commanding heights, it is the ordinary people of the North who now feed the nation through, largely, subsistence agriculture.

If you come down to many cities in the South, the bulk of the daily paid labourers waiting at street corners to be hired for the most menial of jobs are people from the Northern part of the country. If these people are given the necessary encouragement and assistance, they will constitute a major part of the growth engine of a new Nigeria in terms of human capacity.

The alleged “parasitism”, however, resides at the top echelon of the Northern leadership. Sadly enough (and true to the nature of parasites), the malaise has spread to the elite from all sections of the country. It is no longer a preserve of people from a section, but we will not forget who introduced it and why.

If Nigeria was seen as booty of Northern leaders at independence, it became doubly so after 1970, when the North successfully led a coalition of all other Nigerian nationalities, with the full technical assistance of some world powers, to prevent the secession of Biafra, which was chiefly championed by the Igbo people.

The military, under the leadership of the North with their coalition partners, the West, saw Nigeria’s economic and political commonwealth as their well-deserved plunder of conquest. In the euphoric scramble for this oil-fired commonwealth, the military leaders failed to carry the ordinary people of the North along as Sardauna Ahmadu Bello and his disciples had done.

Where the Sardauna spent sleepless nights thinking of how to uplift the quality of lives of the Northern people to the extent of neglecting to enrich himself and family, the reverse was the case for the successor military buccaneers and their civilian cronies. The new class became so engrossed in the “grabfest” that they forgot the common people.

Consequently, as Nigeria crumbled the North crumbled even faster since its common people had not yet been capacitated enough to compete with their peers from the South in a modern world. Northern leaders allowed the imperial mentality maliciously implanted in their psyche by the British colonialists to take them too far away from the orbit of reality.

As a result, Nigeria as a nation could not be built and the North as a former region could no longer move forward. Even the parasitic elite can now no longer count on their imperial privileges because the scientific mechanisms of democracy and constitutionalism have reduced the imperial powers which only colonialism and militarism can maintain.

What is the way forward for the North? The answer is simple. The way forward for Nigeria is the way forward for the North, not the other way round. In other words, the North must no longer see itself in the old light of an imperial power over Nigeria. For 50 years, it was tried, tested and it failed.

Nobody can bring it back. Northerners must begin to see themselves as part and parcel of a Nigerian nation that belongs to everyone, where there are neither special privileges nor special impediments for any citizen based on tribe, religion, language and what have you. Because of its remaining geopolitical advantages, the North has a duty to lead the way in the search for a new Nigeria based on brotherhood, justice and equal rights.

When Nigerians are ready to choose a Northerner as president of Nigeria, we will not look for the Atikus, Babangidas, Ciromas, Kaitas and Yakassais who still live under the delusion of regional superiority complex.

We will look for the El Rufais, Nuhu Ribadus, Buba Marwas, Shamsideen Usmans and especially the Sanusi Lamido Sanusi’s: men of vision, decision and action; patriots who are not slaves to their religious and regional circumstance, but people who have demonstrated their capacity to work for Nigeria and all Nigerians.

I hope other Nigerians observe the thinking style of namfav and relate it with Nigeria's failed leadership since after the war.
We are talking about women who have influenced the nation's development in the late 20th and earlier 21st century, and a supposed young northern Nigerian is busy trying to shove down a 19th century jihadist author down our collective throats.  
And if we dare to hesitate to accept his own pick, he then mocks the achievements of great Nigerian women who actually achieved things that impacted him socio-economically and politically.  

Pray, wouldn't such a character do his darnedest to thwart any rising Nigerian female star?
Do we stand a chance of having a Nigerian female president when we have characters in northern Nigeria still fixated on 19th century? Of course not.

Wonder why some of us are apprehensive about a Buhari presidency. Buhari rejected a woman FAR MORE COMPETENT than himself as a VP candidate. If anyone still don't understand why, read and follow namfagv on nairaland.  

In Yorubaland, I see only one model of a woman to rival Igbo women.

Her name is Chief Mrs Bola Kuforiji-Olubi.

Are you sure that babe ain't Igbo. runs away before Ileke bites off my head.

@topic,

Culture, Culture, Culture,

Been there even before the white man showed up in naija.

Just God's design.

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Seriously, what happened to you? I used to respect you mehn, not that you care. But seriously!

Quit patronizing me mehn.

I remember they asked you same question.

Kobojunkie can bring out the demon in the holiest man. I always exercise my highest restraint while dealing with her. I basically ignore her it.  

There is something deeply wrong about that thing (dunno whether na man or woman sef ).

@ekt bear,

I ain't confusing no one.  

^^
You fled yours!

^^
Kobojunkie should thank her aboki for the [b]magani bura ntashi [/b]that equips him to service her every night. Akwuna.  

Posted by: Nicklee

And what is this supposed to mean? By the way, I am Igbo and what you are saying does not in any way represent my views or the views of millions of peace loving Igbos

My friend sharrrap dia osiso!

Who asked you? Okwakariri onye nwe ozu!

@Ileke

But it is ok for a woman to abuse a man abi?

You didn't notice her insults of my person.

Not that I care anyway.  

@ekt_bear

So you didn't know?
She ran away with aboki at the age of 19 in 1969.  
That is why she sometimes reason like a headless viper.

Curses follow all those bi-eeches who fled with the violators of Igboland.

@topic,

I really think the OP is spot on.
However, that is part of why I believe that Buhari WILL NEVER win this election, because the powers that be know this fact. Every other thing is irrelevant.

This is why your type do not believe that Ojukwu did EVERYTHING he could to avoid war in 1967.
He actually did. That is why he is respected and loved by those who know the truth.
Idiots call him "war lord", without knowing how much he tried to save his people from the agony of war.

We are his disciples.  
We must exhaust all peaceful options before considering war.
That is part of why Buhari is bad. He would only leave us one option -WAR.

Just be prepared.

Ileke let me ask you a question; would you prefer a peaceful disintegration or a violent one? It is really that simple.

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Ouch!!

Are you minding EzeUche. Sometimes, I think the dude doesnt know what he really wants out of Nigeria.

Most of the younger generation Igbos would prefer that Nigeria disintegrates because it is not working for them. However, even a greater proportion including myself are hoping that it works, at least to justify all the loss in human life and other wastes. The older generation like Eziachi stopped believing in Nigeria in 1967.  The younger ones are hoping that he is wrong, while he is hoping to say "I told you so!".

Kobojunkie's observation is r-etarded. 
She wouldn't understand something like the difference between peaceful disintegration and violent disintegration.
Ezeuche's fear is the latter.

My fear is that Buhari can make the country HELL (like Abacha), even while preventing a peaceful disintegration. So, in essence, we may have to fight another war again, while kobojunkie runs away with another Aboki.

agbo ugiri nze was reputed to have all kinds of the most dangerous animals living in it from lions, to leopard to anacondas, plus a lake claimed to be so deep, and permanently covered by leaves that you never knew its bounds.

I wouldn't want to dare the locals in such an environment because you would be fighting nature more than man.