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Is this the Lucifer we've known all thru the ages as the Serpent, Tempter, Devil, Demon and everything associated with evil, posting on this board?

If that's the Devil up there, I BIND you in Jesus name!!!

When I saw the topic of this thread, I thot I'll see something descriptive of the link, or otherwise, between the Igbos in the South Eastern part of Nigeria, and their brothers? (or neighbours) in the South South - Rivers, Delta and maybe Bayelsa, Akwaibom, and Cross Rivers - if any.

But most of the entries to this thread have dwelt much on what I think is irrelevant (except of course, the author of the thread feels otherwise). Personally, I'll like to know if there's any serious link between the two igbo groups.

I know that the Ikwerres in Rivers state bears names similar to the Igbo's. But they claim they do not have any link with the Igbo's in the SE! Same goes for the folks in present day Ukwuani in Delta state. In fact, the Ukwuani's understand the general Igbo language pretty well, but their (Ukwuani) dialect is seldom understood by the Igbo's in the SE. I also heard that during the Civil War, the ''Igbo's'' in Delta state were somewhat massacred, and they protested that they were not Igbos in any way, as at that time. So, what's the difference between these two groups?

Madam Mizkay,

Well, ain't our leaders some greedy, lousy and stinking lot? I know I will do better than all of them put together if I'm given the chance. But that's a different matter from this one.

So, what's your MAIN point? I see so many of them, but I can't seem to figure out what all these has got to do with the fact that Bakassi people are Nigerians and want to remain so and that the Cameroonians wants their lands only for the resource it has got to offer them - oil. This oil will one day grind everyone to a halt. As per the Europeans taking the blames for all our woes, I think it's high time we left them. We are wise enough, as black Africans, to know what we want for ourselves.

What's on ground now is that the Bakassi people have to make a choice. A choice between (a) to remain in the present Bakassi and ''turn'' Cameroonians, OR (b) relocate to another virgin land somewhere - in Nigeria, and call the place New Bakassi or something else for all I care. That will keep them as Nigerians.

If they take option (a) I think they've got nothing to loose. They will be called a ''new'' citizens of a well known country. They should study the Cameroonian constitution - I believe they have one, and see how they can settle in quickly and move on with their lives without any problems. It's just a matter of time. There's no point crying over split milk. The ICJ has given it's verdict. There's no appeal, so no need to cry but face reality.


On the other hand, if they want to remain in a country with Godforsaken numskulls and a bunch of maggots rulers like Nigeria, they will be relocated to somewhere they can continue with their lives, somewhere close to Calabar or another place like that.

Personally, I like adventure and moving on to something new and exciting. I expected the Bakassi folks would be looking forward with much enthusiasm to joining Cameroon and leaving behind this backward ''union'' called Nigeria. I will move over to Cameroon anyday. I heard there are some 4 million Nigerians currently residing in Cameroon. So, what the hell is wrong with becoming a part of them?

The choice is theirs. They have to face reality and move on.

I've got friends from Bakassi. One of them told me the fault is from ''our'' rulers. They don't give a hoot what happens to them in their lands. He said all these evils woudn't have befallen them if only the FG deemed it fit to develop their areas.

If the FG have indeed led a pool of serious minded lawyers and have taken the advice of the paramount ruler of Bakassi to the ICJ, and also if they have provided all the basic amenities to make life worth living in Bakassi, no foul mouth from Cameroon will think or say something about annexing Bakassi -  a Nigerian town, to their country.

No one gives a damn about what happens in the delta. All they are interested in is how to share oil blocks amongst themselves, and impoverish the people in their domains. Godforsaken thieves.

But on a second thought, I will advise the Bakassi folks to allow the Cameroonians govern them for a while and let them see the difference in governance. We all agree that Nigerian leaders are a bunch of useless never-do-well rogues, who do not care a dime about their citizens welfare. Let the  Bakassi folks see what Paul Biya has got to offer them. Hopefully, they will breathe a new lease of life, and will invite other Niger Deltans to join them in Cameroon.

Those folks who think breaking up will be laden with guns and other rubbish will learn from Cameroon how to even go beyond breaking up countries, to annexing towns and territories from them as part of their own, without any iota of violence. Easy does it.

2C,

It's been a while, you know. What happened? Can you use your YIM now? I had to track you down this way.

twins,
All I can do for the now is to refer you back to my (and other well meaning people) earlier contributions on the Niger delta problems. I will like you to read up dakmanzero's write up too. They are indeed insightful, and revealing.

When you're done with that, I bet you'd have a change of heart. Right now, I'm very busy.

And what has the FG done with the remaining 87%?

Me I don tire to dey talk.

Well, my youger brother is having problems loading his picture on the online page. I've tried croping the picture to the size recommende, but it still does not work. Can anyone help him/us out?

And when it comes to submission, I'm lost as to what the guys wants.

Do you want a lady that will just do as you wish all the time or what? Personally, I will not marry such a lady. I will rather marry someone who'd correct me when I'm about to go wrong. Someone I can open my heart to and have this confidence that she has my best interest at heart.  A lady that would comfort me wnen I'm feeling down and unhappy. She reads my mood perfectly and knows what to do.  All these ego stuff with men who feel they are lord over all in a family should stop.

I believe men and women of marriage ages should  do a lot to re-orientate themselves about marriage before dabbling into it.

But as per marrying an unbeliever, or someone who does not believe in the existence of the Lord God Almighty and the powers He wields, I will not think twice before chasing away such a person from my sight.

After reading so much, and plenty of lols, what I will say is that if the originator of this thread wants to know if I can marry someone who does not believe in God - creator of the heavens and the earth, my simple answer is I will not marry such a person.

I will not marry someone who does not believe in God. As a matter of fact, our path may cross, but it will not get to that point that we will begin to talk about marriage.

What I could gather from all these entries is that:

Nigerians generally, do not have the right orientaion about citizenship, they do not know what they ought to be doing in a country, after almost 50 years of independence. There is no sense of ownership. The zeal to contribute meaningfully to national development is just not there, rather, everyone is out there to outdo one another, in a rat race pattern. All they are interested in is to line their pockets with ill-gotten wealth, and go to the roof top to show how poor they are.

And to make matters worse, the leaders are a bunch of parasites. The leaders do not even know that they ought to educate the citizenry on how the country is being run on their behalf.

No doubt, you are 4 play for real. And the player in you have made you twist history to come out with such ludricous views about the Nigerdelta people. You need to be enlightened.

I dislike it when you guys look at the Nigerdeltans like this. We will fight for our right and freedom, but not the Vietnam way. God will help us sha. We got freedom number one from Britain, and now we're experiencing colonisation number two (with our supposed brothers and kins), and with freedom number two no where in sight.

We are peace loving people. We have a history and culture of peace. Go ask your leaders over there (Northern Nigeria, West and East), they will tell you that they stirred the horners nests when they came conniving with foreigners to rape our lands without going through ''due process''.

Ask them, and they will tell you that they set forth to impoverish our lands, and with wicked intentions, machinations and impunity, akin to broad-day light stealing and gangsterism, they loot, kill, maim and torture our people. They then rape our lands and are almost rendering the whole place wastelands!

What evil, if I may ask, did we do to warrant these kinds of treatments, from people who fought alongside our fathers to get us freedoms from the Brits?

Is it sheer jealousy at the sight of a Niger deltan living like a Saudi Arabian prince and calling the shots? or is it that you people cannot just swallow the thought of a Niger deltan coming into world focus as a result of the blessings God has given us?

I'm all eyes, since I will like to know.

Well, me think we've learnt quite a lot from it. And it's time to move on and ''forget'' the past

Yep. Use her and dump her.

Seun:
Em, Ono, you must have a lot of experience with breaking up countries to be able to make this claim.

Must we ''gather'' some sort of experience before we can work out something that will be beneficial to all of us?

Anyway, where in the world does such a scene happens where a people so blessed will be subjected such callous treatment like the Nigerdelta people and a host of other unfortunate Nigerians, like in Nigeria?

I just can't believe why you folks think breaking up will be fraught with so many ''evils''. This break up doesn't and wouldn't lead to you forfeiting what you have elsewhere. Ok, I'll explain:

There are Nigerians in other countries who own landed properties and are doing legitimate business (e.g. UK, US, Liberia, etc etc), right? If we break up, and you have landed properties in Warri or Portharcourt, and you happen to be a Yoruba or Hausa man, there is no reason here on earth why you cannot lay claim to them. The only thing that will change is your status. You will not be an indigene of the new country. But the option to nationalise, if you like, will be open. Just as it is obtained in the US and UK, and elsewhere.

If the suya man feels like staying in this new country, fine, let him stay. No one will cut him with a matchette when he's committed no offence. No country can be an island to itself. She has to mix with others to survive. We in the Delta will even welcome folks who can help us explore/exploit our oil resources properly from other areas and get paid for their services. Now what's wrong with that one?

You folks think you'd be chased out of your homes and all that blablabla things happening to your belongings, right? Well I'll say you'd be ''dissappointed'' at the goodies that will come your way in the new arrangement.

You guys just love making a mountain out of a mole hill, and I just get fed up with the ways you people look at things.

Mariory,
I have long decided not to join issues with you again on this forum. We are always at loggerheads. So, to let sleeping dog lie, I've decided to not reply to your posts anymore. No animosity or ill feeling. Just my decision.

Well, I think the other tribes in the country should purge themselves of[b] corrupt, rotund, pot-bellied, stinking, lousy leaders.[/b]

Should I mention names? Well, I will, so that the likes of goggoji will know that the true thieves are not from the Niger Delta, but from the big three ethnic groups.

1. Ibrahim Babangida
2. Theophilus Danjuma
3. Adedibu Lamidi
4. OBJ (Obasanjo)
5. Sanni Abacha
6. Chris Uba
and a host of others I cannot remember now, or probably they are stealing theirs in the dark.