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 Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 4:44pm On Aug 24, 2006 |
1. (Mr. ono please see the definition of the Niger Delta: pg 15,and the map: cover page and page 45)It's going to be somewhat difficult to define the Niger Delta simply by looking at a map generated by some folks at Abuja, and swallowed hook line and sinker by the UN reporter. You need to know what ''Delta'' means in a ''technical'' sense, and not the ''political'' sense to understand why places like Asaba, Uruekpen, Benin and Auchi cannot be a part of the Niger Delta. So, here we go: A delta is a triangular shaped landform where the mouth of a river flows into an ocean, sea, desert or lake, building outwards (as a deltaic deposit) from sediment carried by the river and deposited as the water current is dissipated. Deltaic deposits of larger, heavily-laden rivers are characterised by the river channel dividing into multiple streams (distributaries), these divide and come together again to form a maze of active and inactive channels http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_delta#Delta_formation I'll have loved to attach some real photographs. But, I'll refer you to wikipedia and some petroleum engineering geology sites to get these. Now, even in wikipedia, a section was created for defining the political Niger Delta, because that's what the Nigerian Government wants everyone to believe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_Delta. They (wikipedia) carefully quoted the Nigerian government in their definition, (The Niger Delta, as defined officially by the Nigerian Government,, ). It's good to have a technical definition, so that you'll not have a warped understanding of these things. I know even folks in Kano will soon begn to claim that Kano is a part of the Niger Delta very soon! Who will not like to associate himself with good things?! The irony of it all is that all these places only identify with the political Niger Delta, so long as oil money is flowing in from there. When it comes to environmental degradation, pollution, killings, militarisation, ethnic strife, improvishment, etc etc, other folks from the non-niger delta, delta, takes to their heels and zoom off. God dey. 2. Initially, I took a cursory look at the report. I'm done reading a many of pages. And I must say that this report, detailed as may look puts the blame of neglecting the Niger Delta development on past rulers and general maladministration. You will agree with me that it will take a lot of gut and will power to want to reverse in 8 years problems that were created and sustained by a wicked central government. Evidence from Chart 2.2 reveals that while some states made appreciable progress between 1992 and 2005, most states from the Niger Delta region, especially the South-South geo-political zone, performed poorly. Edo, Delta, and Bayelsa showed some retrogressive trends, while Ondo, Abia, Akwa Ibom, Cross River, and Rivers and Imo states achieved some progress." (Page 135)]"Evidence from Chart 2.2 reveals that while some states made appreciableprogress between 1992 and 2005, most states from the Niger Delta region, especially the South-South geo-political zone, performed poorly. Edo, Delta, andI thot that this should draw your ire instead, as a Niger Deltan. Other states made appreciable progress, how? Well, I'll tell you. The environment for those other places are somewhat conducive for progress. You need to visit the Delta and appreciate how enormous the problems in the area is to want to do anything tangible. I understand that the cost of constructing a kilometre of road in the Delta is enough to do 4 km in other places, that translate to spending four times the amount you'll spend ordinarily in other states. I don't think Delta state earns four times as that of other states. In all, that our leaders are generally corrupt is glaring for all to see. That means you can point accusing fingers at Ibori as a corrupt leader, and I will not blink an eye. So, we're saying thesame thing in this regard, but I disagree with you that this man is not good material for the Presidency. |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 7:22am On Aug 24, 2006 |
otokx: |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 4:33pm On Aug 23, 2006 |
buluti:Ok. You've made your point. No wahalases. But I would have loved you put forward names of credible people who should be at the helm of affairs, in place of the roguish Ibori. |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 11:25am On Aug 23, 2006 |
Otokx, that's right. Buluti will not see those ones. And reports such as the ones from the UN will easily pass as another fraud by Ibori. Please state the source of that UN report for all to see. Besides, Buluti is looking at the general picture across the land (Nigeria). He's looking at a bigger picture. Well, let me remind him here that the topic of this thread rests on Ibori and his performance at Delta state as governor in the past 7 years. The author of this thread wants us to look at his performance and tell if he's good enough as President come 2007 or not. So, let me ask him; Buluti, don't you think Ibori is a good enough candidate for Nigeria President come 2007? If yes/no, please state your reasons. And please don't talk about the larger Nigeria problems. There are several threads dedicated to that one. |
| Politics › Re: Niger Delta: What Is The Problem? by ono(m): 8:03am On Aug 23, 2006 |
@Oriki, That's a balanced angle to the issue at hand. However, you need to know that miscreants have truly hijacked the struggles of the Niger Delta people. It's really unfortunate. I heard some ten MEND militants were killed in a gun battle two days ago. I must say that whatever the intention of the FG, killing these people will only escalate the problems in the area. What will STOP the activities of hoodlums and miscreants is the enthronment of true democratic structures across the land. Upholding the principles of true Federalism is the panacea we need. The inbalance in almost everything is at the root of all the problems bedevilling the land. |
| Family › Re: 95 Per-cent Of Nigeria's Teenage Girls Cannot Boast Of Being Virgins! by ono(m): 5:38pm On Aug 22, 2006 |
Na wah! |
| Family › Re: Nigeria Law For Divorce by ono(m): 7:04pm On Aug 21, 2006 |
mamaput:LOL. Makes Nigerian men have a penchant for Polygamy if you ask me. And I know this is very true. Funny. Nice to be back in family board after all these months. |
| Politics › Re: What's New In The Nigerdelta by ono(m): 4:21pm On Aug 19, 2006 |
No doubt you did not read the full lenght of that yahoo news write up. The Abuja-based federal government apportions the earnings from Nigeria's oil industry. Despite the great riches, most of the Niger Delta is mired in extreme poverty, and most residents live without electricity, health care or schools. Many Nigerians accuse their leaders of stealing much of the oil funds. Nigeria is routinely ranked among the world's most-corrupt nation.That's from the site you posted. Men and women of conscience knows the truth when they see it. |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 3:42pm On Aug 19, 2006 |
Erm, buluti, sawrie o! Sincere apologies. I must have missed that one. I did not answer your question on working with the Delta State civil service. I said I'll address other points you raised later on. So, YES, I'll gladly love to work in the Delta State Civil Service and serve my fatherland. Now, are you satisfied with that? or what more do you need from me to convince you? Bringing OBJ into this matter does not connote anything defeatist in my last entry. You allege that Ibori has done nothing worth noticing with the huge billions allocated to the state. The EFCC (OBJ's Bulldogs) are in this country, so also is Ibori. Ibori should have been nabbed, arrested, taken behind bars by the EFCC, if all these your allegations are true. Or is Ibori above the law? Accountability: Well, we've demanded, and we're still demanding for that without any iota of success. We hope that someday, we'll have it. In one of my entries on this forum, I stated the REASONS, why we cannot have any form of transparency or accontability and other juicy things you wished for. I'll post it in here for you to read, no point typing it out all over again. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=12735.msg514063#msg514063 https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=12735.msg498414#msg498414 My intention was not to convince anybody or criticise but to state the facts and leave us to our conscience. Its the facts thats criticising not me. We can be better than this.How i wish theres so much transparency so we know what our leaders are worth.But you have tried to ''convince'' our readers why Ibori cannot, or will not be a good material for Nigeria President, come 2007. You carefully quoted facts ascribed to Delta State only and carefully left out what accrues to the Federal Govt, FCDA, other ''mouths'' that need to be fed with the Niger Delta Resources. And you claim you're just stating facts and leaving us to our conscience. Next time you're quoting facts, quote all of them for all to see and then leave us and our conscience to judge. If we are happy with the present leadership, then its okay, am not and i speak for myself. I demand so much more from them, i have seen what other countries demand from their leaders, those guys have to be on their toes, ours are too relaxed.Personally, I'm generally not happy with the present state of things across the country. I've repeatedly stated my grievances on all fronts (political leadership, resource distribution, justice system, and general administration across the land) in most of my posts on this forum. Something I dislike though is comparing myself with others in terms of achievements. I'm the contented type. That does not mean that I shut out any idea of getting to higher height, but I'll rather get there at my own pace. And I think and believe this should apply to Nigeria as well. We will get there. But let us not rush things. Except you're saying we're not fast enough, I think in Delta State in particular, we're making progress. We're not progressing at a fast pace because of endemic corruption. Read up my links. Only the practice of true Federalism will liberate us. And I see you've left Delta State now, you're comparing Nigeria with other countries. It's all well and good, but note that you're deviating. If you want to focus on Delta then do so, and leave out the greater Nigeria problems for now. It's the ''little'' achievements of James Ibori in Delta State that made the originator of this thread come up with his question, and I think we should address that for now. |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 5:34pm On Aug 18, 2006 |
buluti, Well, I never meant to correct your spelling. I only highlighted some of my words for emphasis. So, you're on your own on that inference. I'm not a master of English, and I don't look down on anyone who makes any mistake writing it. After all, it's not my mother tongue. I just try to read meanings, as best as I can, to any entry. Now that said, buluti:No you did not. That was what the originator of this thread stated in his first entry. You set out to criticise Ibori and tell the whole world why he should not be Presido. And criticise you have done very well. It's just that you could not convince me with your facts. buluti:So, if it's not only the states, then the FG is culpable too, don't you think so? If you don't know what Delta pays her civil servants, ask from those who know. Let them tell you what Delta State civil servant monthly wage bill looks like, so that you'll know that the money coming to Delta does not just vanish into thin air. Well I know Delta Civil service has improved tremendously under Ibori. That guy is a morale booster, go and ask. The Education Commissioner (Pry & Sec) Mrs. Ogboagwu just got recognised recently at Abuja for her laudable roles in reforming Delta State education ministry. Delta is once again at the fore front. I know the standard of living all over the country is low. Who do you think should take the blame? Is it Ibori or OBJ who's at the helm of affairs. You're deviating o! I will address other points later. |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 3:46pm On Aug 18, 2006 |
Brother Nutter, I'll warn you not to join issues with some people on this forum. Mariory is one of them. Be warned. You'd keep going round in circles until you've lost your bearing - via a centripetal force from within! |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 3:23pm On Aug 18, 2006 |
buluti, I thank you. If those states contributes their widows mite from the sale of groundnuts, yams, cocoa, cassava (of late) and rice as their sources or revenues, don't you think it's just fair on the Niger delta to let them to take part of their own mite before sending the rest to the centre?. Forget about all those global warming and competition gist of yours. Come down to level zero and face reality here in Nigeria. Those people started from somewhere too. The US as it is today has come a long way. That country is about 160 years old. Same with the UK. You forget that Delta pays some of the highest salaries and emoluments to its civil servants, to the extent that people from neighbouring Anambra state now claims they are from Delta state just to get higher salaries. I hear Delta pays more than the FG to its civil servants. Like I said earlier, time would fail me to mention the others done by Ibori. When was the last time you went to Warri, Ughelli, Oghara, Sapele, Kwale, Oleh and other place to see what this man has done. How many governors can boast of similar achievements in their domains? |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 7:23am On Aug 18, 2006 |
buluti, Thank you very much for your post. I lived in Warri for some 6 years before moving over to Portharcourt. And I know what James Ibori has done to better the lot of our people in that place. I don't know which part of the Niger Delta you come from. But I hope it's not Ekpoma or Uruekpen, or Asaba, because those places are really not a part of the Niger Delta. Now, you've quoted ''true'' figures as per monthly allocation to Delta State. Thank you. But do you know how much the Federal Government and the FCDA gets at the end of every month? Please help me search and feedback. Besides, I will like to know how much the FCDA contributes to the Federal purse. I also know that between 1999 and 2005, Delta state alone contributed more than 5 trillion Naira to the National coffers - of course via crude oil extracted from the oil bearing regions of the state. How much has other states (including Kano, Bauchi, Borno, Ogun, Kwara and Enugu) contributed to the national purse? Ibori constructed so many bridges and roads across Delta state all these years. Let me list out the ones I can remember: * The gigantic Bomadi Bridge, considered as a legacy site, was built with over 6 billion Naira. This is one bridge the Ijaws in both Delta and Bayelsa state will forever remember Ibori for. It is reputed to be one of the largest single project executed by a state governor in Nigerian history. I believe you don't even know where Bomadi is talk less of appreciating the size of the bridge. The bridge was originally a Federal govt. project which was abandoned since the late 70s. * Airpor road dualisation: Warri residents will tell you how strategic this road is to the Warri metropolis. All along it has been a single carriageway. Ibori came and brought smiles on tha face of many, by dualising this very strategic road. What the state government did to dualise the road is better rendered by those who know. * Warri City Stadium: I have gone around this country a lot. This stadium will beat the Liberation stadium here in Portharcourt. It's huge and boasts of many facilities. Time will fail me to talk about this man's achievement in the areas of education, health, sports - ha!, sports, who does not know tha Delta state is the team to beat at every years National Sports festival? So, buluti, please take it easy on this man. No doubt he has his bad sides, but I thinnk he has done very well in the past seven years of his administering this state. |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 3:53pm On Aug 17, 2006 |
DRANOEL:Now, that's a refreshing recap of the events in the country in recent times. |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 3:12pm On Aug 17, 2006 |
Brother Nutter, let me help Odeku: The king kong got his ''farm wealth'' by working very hard and investing his salaries when he was in the military! |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 10:18am On Aug 17, 2006 |
Otokx, that's a good one. But the self acclaimed righteous people will not see it that way. They only ''believe and know'' that the other person is a sinner, and there's nothing you can do about it. Hypocrites!! |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 8:25am On Aug 17, 2006 |
It's obvious that you lot have chosen to turn your face the other way. The truth stares you in the face and all you can do is to turn your back at it. It's all well and good. Most of you guys come in here and call people like Alams, Ibori, Dariye and other governors in the country thieves after reading and listening to local news, believing such to be true and nothing but the truth. Here, you made my brother Nutter go all the way to search and convince you all about the King Kong OBJ's monthly income in a farm that is believed to be one of the biggest of it's kind in Sub Saharan Africa. Has anyone of you guys gone to this farm to see how big it is? Do you know who OBJs clients are? Nutter came with evidence to justify his claims in a very clean and clear manner. But because y'all have chosen to believe a lie, you damn whatever he has to give as evidence. I hope your consciences have not been seared with a hot iron, to the extent that you all love believing lies. Odeku feels if King Kong OBJ earns so much in a month, he should be among the first 100 on Forbes list. Well, I'll tell you that such frivolous things as ''appearing'' on Forbes 100 doesn't move people like the king kong. Besides, doesn't it sound absurd to ''your hearing'' that a ''serving'' presido's company in Africa should ''appear'' on that your glorified list? Brother Nutter, no mind them. I know these things are true. I'm even more surprised at Jakumo. He has a very good sense of judgement when it comes to ''these things'' but it seems he has joined the crowds of late. |
| Politics › Re: Has Anyone Considered Ibori For President? by ono(m): 4:12pm On Aug 16, 2006 |
True talk okiemute. He will get my vote anyday so long as he can come out to tell us he wants to come in as presido. |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 3:49pm On Aug 16, 2006 |
Brother Nutter, well done and I know Odeku. Chief Jakumo, over to you. |
| Politics › Re: What's New In The Nigerdelta by ono(m): 2:13pm On Aug 16, 2006 |
Well, a friend of mine once said: Until you address a burning issue, the issue keeps burning you. |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 11:25am On Aug 16, 2006 |
All I can say is that they should use whatever is at their disposal (EFCC, ICPC, DOGS, TOUTS, AGBEROS, MURDERERS) to eliminate themselves. Somehow, a stage will be reached where we can breathe fresh air and come under human beings as our leaders. I would have loved a situation where they can all be caged (all of them including IBB, ATIKU, OBJ, BUHARI etc etc) and allowed to engage in a free for all fight - fight to finish, as in fight to death - (Gladiators). Then they should call on me to shoot the last man standing among them. Then we can have some peace, or what do you think folks? |
| Politics › Re: Ait On Babangida by ono(m): 1:22pm On Aug 15, 2006 |
Yeah, that was a revealing, insightful, ''documentary'' of the IBB years. You know, many Nigerians have short memory. It's a nice way of bringing back the story of the IBB years at this crucial point in the nations history. It's like sounding a warning signal to erring IBB disciples. I always prefer AIT to NTA when it comes to news and documentaries about Nigeria. |
| Crime › Re: Aircraft Terror Plot Disrupted by ono(m): 7:41am On Aug 15, 2006 |
Jakumo:lawd!! I'm LMAO!!! Brother Jak, you too much!!! |
| Politics › Re: Efcc Nabs S-south Gov's In-law With $1.5m by ono(m): 2:53pm On Aug 14, 2006 |
This is an [b]Alam[/b]ing! situation!! |
| Politics › Re: Governor Ibori, Wife, In $360M Oil Deal in London by ono(m): 1:00pm On Aug 14, 2006 |
deep, Me too. I heard about that Ibori gist some months back. But, it has since died a natural death for want of ''credibility''. Anyway, who does not know that ''corruption'' is the ''tap root'' of the Nigerian society? Cut off corruption, and Nigeria will ''die''. Nigeria cannot ''survive'' without corruption. You've got to be a ''dibia'' to understand which context I used ''survive'' in there. |
| Politics › Re: Babangida's Son Arrested By Efcc by ono(m): 9:46am On Aug 14, 2006 |
These are interesting times indeed. That IBB is a confirmed never-do-well is no news. But that he has supporters (many, and across the country) who wants him to come back and rule after stepping aside is mind boggling! Who are these supporters? what's their stake in IBB? I will not join the ranks of those waiting for time to tell on these people. We need to flush all these rotten eggs out of our system. Our children yet unborn will not forgive us for selling our conscience. They will exhume our bodies long after we are gone to ''torment'' us if we do not deal with these crop of people who want to see to it that we are consumed in our lands. Looking closely at all these things, we see Nigeria being ruled by a clique of blood thirsty men and women. Instead of investing in human capital development, and empowering people, they prefer stashing away billions for their own selfish ends. Little wonder why Nigeria was worst hit in every sphere during the IBB years in office. Now, the Niger Delta, where these wealth comes from remains in shackles and is in dire needs of attention. The other day, OBJ promised heaven on earth for the people in the region, supposedly to better their lot. But up unitil this time, work on the East-West road, which contract has been awarded for dualisation has not commenced. I am tired of repeating thesame thing over and over again! |
| Politics › Re: What Have You Done For Nigeria? by ono(m): 7:25am On Aug 08, 2006 |
[quote author=O-B-J link=topic=19585.msg551936#msg551936 date=1154988051]@kimba,  we are in the same boat. i am actually a clone of the president. but the scientists made a mistake during the cloning and i came out a female. too bad. they also lost my identification number.  what a world[/quote]Stupid girl! |
| Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Has Resigned by ono(m): 8:55am On Aug 04, 2006 |
buhahahahaha!!! - let me borrow my people laugh pattern. You're truly O-B-J, why wouldn't you put your sex as female. That's typical of OBJ. He's always making blunders - just the way you've done. You think say that place (Aso Rock) them build am for you? If yo no take care them go carry your dead-bodi go Otta go feed for pigs. You dey carry on as if say the world dey your feet. Na God go punish your ancestors for referring to my papa and mama for this thread! Useless sonofabitch. Potbellied, rotund, old and wrinkled, Godforasken, nonentity, callous, bloodsucking demon that you're!! Erm, my dear people of NL, make una no vex. I have never used that kind of language on anyone. But this she-OBJ deserves it. |
| Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Has Resigned by ono(m): 8:29am On Aug 04, 2006 |
Una wey want say make we remain one, make una begin think twice now o. This country is doomed. They just killed Williams, now they've humiliated Iweala, where are we going?! All the good folks are getting eliminated one after the other. I believe they want to bring the likes of Adedibu with his amala politics to administer the Finance ministry. How eles can one explain the irrational behaviour of baba iyabo? |
| Career › Re: Graduates: Is Your Occupation Related To Your Degree? by ono(m): 2:13pm On Aug 02, 2006 |
I think Iofall has done justice to this thread. When you go to higher institutions of learning, emphasis is more on developing your ability to think logically and analytically and also engage in profitable things that will enhace the living standards of the people in your society. So, whatever your degree, you should just feel good with yourself knowing that you're doing something worthwhile. Now that said, I'm a Petroleum Engineer and I'm working in an E&P company. |
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