₦airaland Forum

Hotstepper:
warri on the other hand, is one of da worest cities with riots etc, alwayz a problem dere

Hotstepper:
delta is one of the poorest regions in nigeria upon all the oil

Coldstepper or whatever you call yourself,
I beg your pardon, someone's doing a survey in here. And you're not the person. You'd do well to mind your business and stop casting aspersions on what matters most to someone else.

No matter what you say or think, the Delta region (meaning, the Niger Delta region) is that region where most of the wealth of Nigeria comes from. It's through the wealth of that place that most Nigerians (including yourself) have been able to have a lifeline - you may not understand.

And in spite of the negative public description that region has acquired over the years, well meaning people all over the world knows that the people in that region are peace loving people who'd rather their rights are not trampled on but will lay down their lives to claim what's rightfully theirs for now and future generations yet unborn.

I'll urge you to withdraw that negative statement about Warri and the Delta region credited to you .

You said you're from Anambra. Well, I know Anambra has passed through hell in recent times. All the godfatherism + gangsterism of Ngige and Uba is still very fresh in our minds. The Okija saga is still very fresh too. Let me hold my tongue before I go ballistic with you.

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I want to evaluate nairaland demography,

What state are u from?
What is good about your state?
What is bad about your state?
Do you have a another nationality apart from nigerian national?

I was born at Ibadan in Oyo State, but I'm from Delta State

Delta State is the largest oil producing state in Nigeria. Full of diverse ethnic nationalities, blessed with lots and lots of tourist attraction sites. One of the coastal states in the country with very high potential of turning to the Texas of the US one day

I don't know of any bad thing about my state. And I believe there's none.

I do not have any other nationality. And I don't want any other from the one I have now.

kimba:
Doesnt anyone here know that alcohol kills brain-cells. The more you consume, the more deadbrain cells are there upstairs. I wonder whether loosing one's mind is an option we would want.

My advise for people usually is this:
if you want to do something, or
if you have done something, and
your heart cautions you against your action(past or future),
but still the "I" in you still wants to do what you want to do,
regardless of your conscience or even people's advice,
it is extremely and awfully wrong to take the Bible and find a way to justify yourself.

@Uche1
Please tell them.

Kimba, remember, hypocrites will go to Hell Fire too. Don't get me wrong, I did not mention names o. That said, you must understand that:

Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

As long as we are in this world, in the flesh, your spirit as a man/woman will always strive against the Spirit of God. It takes the likes of a regenerated man to fend off, or at least minimise the power of the flesh againt the Spirit of God.

You need to know that as Christians, we are enjoined to be moderate in all of the things we do in life (dressing, drinking, partying, sports etc etc), before all men. Moderation is the key here:

Philippians 4:5
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand.

One can easily infer from the above passage that taking too much food can lead to sin.  It's just unfortunate that unbelievers have capitalise on some verses of the scriptures to think they can do anything they like.

Pertaining to this drinking as a Christian thread, I personally do not drink in public. The best I can do is a bottle of Malta Guiness to cool off. At home, I can take Irish wine and some other low alcohol content drinks. Believe me, these drinks have a way of refreshing me. And you must understand that some drugs in syrups (liquid form) often have a certain percentage of alcohol in them - go ask a Pharmacists, they will tell you.

So, I advice that as a Christian let your moderation be known to all men, everywhere you go. Drink when you need to and don't get drunk.

Erm I don come back.
Wey all da Waffi people on this board? Oya, make all the ladies/girls from whether na Bendel or Edo/Delta, begin demonstrate for all da people here how to prepare correct Ukodo with solid dry fish. I don try am during Easter, and I wan eat am everyday.

I dey wait.

@Uche,
Bros, how then would you explain the below verse?

1 Timothy 5:23  
Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

I believe it's good to take wine. But not in excess, because when it's in excess, you get drunk and do many awful things. Just like the scriptures encourages us below:

Ephesians 5:18
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit

Now, this entry is the best so far, from a non Niger Deltan.

Thank you and Godbless.

And then this:


THE recurring Niger Delta crisis would have been redressed five years ago if the recommendations of a presidential committee on the issue were implemented, The Guardian has learnt.

Some of the recommendations were in line with the demands of the Niger Delta militants and some recommendations of the recent National Political Reforms Conference (NPRC).

It was chaired by then Chief of Army Staff, Lt.-Gen. Alexander Ogomudia, and had as members all the Service Chiefs, secretaries to the governments of the oil-producing states, representatives of the oil companies and government agencies. The committee, which was known as "The Special Security Committee on Oil Producing Areas", was inaugurated on November 8, 2001.

According to volume one of the report, which was submitted to the President on February 19, 2002, solutions to the intractable crisis were grouped into immediate/short-term, medium and long-term.

The long-term solutions were industrialisation of the area and repeal of the Land-Use Act, Petroleum Act, Gas Re-injection Act and other laws that dispossess oil-producing areas of their land.

The short-term measures included upward review of the 13 per cent derivation to at least 50 per cent, mobilisation of youths to form labour vanguard for community development and training of indigenes of oil-producing communities for employment in the oil companies.

Communities were to be made to diversify into agricultural production unique to their environment while laws to make it mandatory for the creation of manufacturing companies to produce local content for oil companies were to be enacted.

The provision of marine/coastal mass-transit transportation system in the region and immediate take-off of the trans-coastal highway from Ondo State to Cross River State were also recommended.

On the medium term, the government was advised to carry out control of ocean surge and submergence of coastal areas, erosion control, sand-filling of swamps to create new towns, provision of social amenities such as electricity, water and roads, among others.

Before making the recommendations, the committee visited the nine oil-producing states and got input from major stakeholders.

The committee was specifically set up by the Federal Government "to address the prevailing situation in the oil-producing areas which have, in recent past, witnessed unprecedented vandalisation of oil pipelines, disruptions, kidnapping, extortion and a general state of insecurity, especially of the oil and gas industry."

Five years after, most of the recommendations of the committee have not been implemented.

Source:
http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/news/article05

ddd

I think the word ''rich'' have to be properly defined in here for one to truly grasp the direction of this thread.

Does riches here means having a lot of money, much more than what Bill Gates have to offer, or just enough to take care of a woman's needs?
Does riches here applies to one who's endowed with such godly characters that he/she is a pleasant personality to be by.
Or, does it have to do with some form of personality traits that's appealing to a lady/man, such that you'd want to say: Is it right for one to marry someone who's rich in very good outward disposition?

Or, does this ''riches''embrace all that's written above.

Please clarify.

Breeze don dey blow, fowl yantch don dey open. And make everybody take cover, because the stench wey go commot from fowl yatch fit run belle.

Odeku:
I don't blv this its all a hoax, take the heat off him and people will concentrate on others who support the idea, investigate him deep, every one has a shady deal some how

Thank you Odeku. My brother, Owo, is calling on you to contribute meaningfully on something else, other than OBJ and his stooges. We want you to expend more energy on better things than him.

See:Where Are All The Obasanjo Apologists?

Seun:
Hello Owo,

I regret the third term plot, the arbitrary laws, the disobedience of court orders. It's a pity that the people vying for OBJ's position are only worse.

Seun.

Well, for once, our honourable admin has deemed it fit to condescend and ''regret'' joining the camp of OBJ's bootsuckers. I'm waiting for more of them to come here and apologise to this honorable ''house'' called NL.

SHF:
Warri, born and bred (well till I was 8 anyway)

Hey! SHF (Now, what in da worldz does that mean?), you Warri born n bred? whooosh!! Waffi babe, I hail o o o o o.

Just give them that kain pepper soup wey be say na for only Waffi you fit get am. Remember da solid Ukodo and correct goat meat or Ukodo with solid dry catfish. And that kain one wey be say you put palm oil nearby the Ukodo. Geez men, ha, make una come hold me before I go begin go wild with hunger!!!

davidylan:
yeah, no wonder most of the girls i went to school with were not too bothered with their grades as we were. All they needed to do was "ask God" to give them a Rich (er sorry, successful and ambitious) man!
Poor guys can't ask for "ambitious" girls or rich ones either, they have to work their asses off for some chick to come in and reap where she did not sow. So she can divorce you at the drop of a hat and still be entitled to half of the things you slaved for years to achieve!
No wonder when i asked the girl i first got serious with what her future plans where after school all she could tell me was "go to my father's house and wait to get married!
No ma'am, she does not speak the truth only what YOU want to hear!

Little wonder most guys are marrying well into their 30s, no wonder many girls are finding it "difficult" to find a "good" man to marry. The word "good" now comes with being "rich" (sorry successful). May i ask the girls who want "rich" husbands what they are bringing to the marriage?
Themselves, two aged parents, 5 brothers and sisters and countless cousins, uncles and aunts? For one guy to take care of?

Marriage is all about genuine love (agape type that seeks what you can do for the other and not what they can do for u) and compromise! It is less about what he has in his pockets.

I won't advise my cousin to marry an unambitious pauper, i won't be advising her to include "must be rich" as a criteria either!

Now, david, has answered the question the right way.

But, is any of you guys here married? It would be nice to hear from the experienced folks, don't you all think so? It's easy sitting down there and typing away what you think is right or wrong. But real life experience , especially from those married to[b] rich? [/b] folks will hit the nail on the head.

What's he talking about?

So, Chelly, myself and Kajad are saying thesame thing.

There's something ''African'' in you. And I think you should come home to Africa, where you'd get all that you need. Don't believe in all those false talk about Africa in the US. They are grossly misleading. You'd surely like it in here.

Besides, if Nigerians are the folks who kept coming around, it's because it has been generally acknowledged the world over that we are the ''happiest people on earth''. And they want you to take part in that enjoyment bliss in here. Now, isn't that some record to behold? and wouldn't you like spending the better part of your life with happy people? Just think about it. And also, just to let you in on Nigeria, there other better tribes in Nigeria. We have the Kanuris, the Ijaws, Isokos, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Ogoni's Oron, Ibibios, (of the Niger Delta stocks - rich and peace loving people of this world).

You'd get all you need in Africa. Just come ''home'', and you'd be glad you did.

@Zahy,

Chelley wants to know why most of the guys who's been chasing her around are mostly Africans, especially Nigerians of the Igbo and Yoruba stock. She's ''surprised or bothered'' that most African American brothers in the US do not take such interest in her.

I thot that's very easy to grasp, or am I missing something, Chelley?

Chelley, I guess you have some looks and feel that's African. And I think the African in you wants you to come ''home'' to Africa and settle in there. Maybe that's where you're destined to have all you need to live well on earth.

Just ma 2 cents.

Seun:
That was a joke. All women are emotional. I'm trying to suggest that a woman avoiding the kind of men listed in the first post is probably avoiding all men!

For once, Seun, I can say we at least agree on one thing, so far. All men posses one or more of these attributes listed by the doctor. So, how in the world will the women cope, when they avoid[b] all [/b] the men?

Doctor, come to our rescue.

I'm surprised the likes of lady GL, vongauche, Fdeveloper and other OBJ apologist + praise singers have suddenly backed down. I'm eagerly waiting for you guys respond.

@Demmy,

It's unfortunate that you can't seem to come to terms with this ''big picture'' view.

All these Okerenkoko, Jones Creeks and other deals stated in the news above yields little or nothing compared to the bulk of the money that goes to Abuja. You don't seem to understand Owo stance here. Billions of dollars and Naira goes from the Niger Delta Heartland to feed pests,fat, rotund, ugly and loud mouthed idiots at the corridors of power in Abuja, Lagos, Kano and Kaduna and other non oil producing areas.

All those peanuts Otuaro and brothers realise from sweeping flowstations and packing waste is just nothing compared to what thieves at the loading Terminals report to their Ogas at Abuja. You'd better come to terms with reality, my friend and stop being myopic.

The 13 percent derivation to oil producing states + Otuaro and brothers deals with oil majors + Other such deals + bunkering + community MOUs kick backs + Ghost workers payment in the Delta + Others not known in the delta is less than < (insignificant, actually)  Federal Govt take + Oil majors take in the oil deals in the Delta.

I hope that knocks out your outbursts.

gbogzy:
i don't think there is any man on earth that hasnt cheated on his wife.this is because if he doesnt cheat on his wife by his actions he does so in other ways,like in his thoughts when he sees another woman.

Well, then cheating is a ''relative'' term, right?

You guys seems to have a myopic view of what Attah's talking about here. This is a clear case of taking a look at the total picture and coming up with an amicable solution that will definitely gladden the hearts of the majority of the Delta people and at thesame time make other non-oil producing states have a sense of belonging in the country. And we hope that they would in turn, in the future, be willing to share the proceeds from their own resources the way we have allowed them in on our own.

Reading through his lines of thought, he definitely wants the involvement of the stakeholders in the profits and costs that the oil business has to offer. A situation whereby a bunch of fat, rotund and ugly lot siting in a palatial building at Abuja decides how the resources of a place should be managed is not a healthy one. When the people who owns the resources of a place are allowed (the word ''allow'' is indeed a misnomer, no one dare dictates to anyone what he should do with his God-given wealth - except in a master-slave settings) to participate in how their resources is exploited breeds a sense of belonging. When you deny them this chance, you deny them their very sense of existence.

So, Attah's suggestion should be acceptable to all at this time.

Niger Delta Governor Seeks Equity Share in Oil Blocks
AFX News Limited
Monday, April 10, 2006


Governor Victor Attah of Nigeria's oil-rich southern state of Akwa Ibom has proposed equity participation by local communities in the country's lucrative oil blocks as a recipe for peace in the volatile Niger Delta region.

Armed militants have this year killed at least 24 members of the security forces, kidnapped and released 13 foreign oil workers, and blown up several pipelines, forcing firms to cut Nigeria's 2.6 million-barrel per day exports by more than one-fifth.

The state-run Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) holds 60 percent equity participation in the oil sector while the oil majors like Shell, ExxonMobil, ChevronTexaco, Agip, and Total take 40 percent.

"It will make greater understanding of the whole oil thing if for instance today the NNPC agrees that it does not have to continue to maintain 60-40 percent relationship between it and the oil majors," Attah told a group of foreign journalists in the state capital.

"I ask what will be wrong in a 40-20-40 situation where the NNPC will hold 40, the states 20, and the oil majors 40. What will be wrong in that?" he said.

"There will be even more eyes overseeing this thing (oil). There will be greater local involvement. People will now begin to feel that this resources belong to us and we must protect it," he said.

"They must protect what belongs to them and so on. I think even the vandalization and hostage-takings will cease. Not just because more people will be employed and involved but they will know it is their own.

"Right now, they don't see this thing belonging to them and so they indulge in destruction, violence, and attacks," he added.

Attah said current agitation for an increase in the percentage of revenue for the oil states was not enough to douse the violence in the region.

"My conviction is clear that, the involvement aspect (of stakeholders) is very critical to peace," he said.

Source:http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=31157

This is Hon Arch. Victor Attah's solution to the Niger Delta Crisis. I agree with him whole heartedly.

@davidylan,

Goodman, keep up the good work. I never knew you were this versed in the scriptures too. I thot it's all politics - remember your dictionary? It got me and my friends laughing our heads off.

Good work man.

And all the ladies in the house should know that ''real men'' listens to their wives. And sometimes they will not take some important decisions without consulting their wives.

The Atiku Revolt:

By, Reuben Abati


The details of what was discussed by the 200 anti-third term campaigners who were barred from holding a meeting at the Sheraton Hotel, Abuja, on Wednesday, April 5, have now become public knowledge. When this is placed beside the motives of their traducers masquerading as state agents, it is safe to conclude that it is indeed a sad moment for Nigeria. The third-term gang included Major-General Muhammadu Buhari of the All Nigeria Peoples Party (ANPP), Alhaji Ghali Na'Abba, former Speaker of the House of Representatives, Mr Audu Ogbeh, former Chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party, Alhaji M. D. Yusuf, Alhaji Gambo Jimeta, Governors Bola Tinubu, Boni Haruna, Orji Kalu, and Senator Uche Chukwumerije, It was in one word, a gathering of well-known opponents of the Obasanjo administration - many of whom have had cause to criticise the government openly on issues of policy, and in the cases of Ogbeh, and Ghali Na'Abba, and former Governors Bisi Akande, Segun Osoba and Niyi Adebayo, these are bold critics of the ruling PDP and its methods.

They and their associates had paid for the use of the Ladi Kwali Hall at the Sheraton Hotel. But the FCT Police Commissioner, Lawrence Alobi and the Director-General of the State Security Service, Kayode Are personally led a contingent of security agents to prevent the meeting from taking place. Their reasons: the politicians did not have "police permit"; they, the security agents, were also acting "on instructions from above". So, the SSS director walked up to Buhari and told him: "Sir, you can't enter." In case anyone had any doubts about the seriousness of this directive, such doubts were soon laid to rest when the security men descended on Francis Amadiegwu, a member of the House of Representatives who had stubbornly tried to enter the Ladi Kwali Hall. He was wrestled to the ground in the presence of his colleagues and reportedly beaten "black and blue". When Amadiegwu was eventually released, he could only mutter a few words: "This is the darkest day in the history of democracy in Nigeria." He obviously did not enjoy the beating!

There have been many dark days in Nigerian democracy, and if present signs are anything to go by, there may well be darker days ahead. What transpired at the Sheraton Hotel, Abuja between security agents and the anti-third term politicians last Wednesday, is yet another illustration of the flowering of a culture of dictatorship that is being imposed on the present process by the Obasanjo government. It is reminiscent of the old days of Abacha and Babangida, of crude intolerance and abuse of public institutions. In recent times and as opposition to the third term agenda continues to grow, the Obasanjo government has displayed greater intolerance for ideas or any form of opposition. It is a disturbing antithesis: a government that was ostensibly elected democratically is now in the vanguard of an assault against some of the pillars of democracy itself namely the right to choose, the right to differ, the right to associate freely, and the right to express opinions as free citizens under the rule of law. Any government that breaks the law so brazenly threatens the very foundations of society itself, and the objectives of an open society and the common good. Nor is this the first time that the Obasanjo government will behave in this manner.

Other instances include the disruption, last year, of a rally in Osun, that was organised in honour of Chief Bisi Akande, the 2005 open attack on a group of women led by Mrs Jadesola Akande who were expressing solidarity with women who lost their loved ones in the famous Sosoliso air crash, the March 17, 2006 attack on a meeting of the Advanced Congres of Democrats (ACD) in Dutse, Jigawa State, and the March 20 arrest of Alhaji Lawal kaita, a chieftain of the ACD. Even more telling is the arraignment in court of Miss Funke Adedoyin, Mrs Kofo Olugbesan, Lawal Abba, Musa Garba and others for belonging to a so-called illegal group, the Turaki Vanguard. The accused persons, it is alleged, belong to "a society which is dangerous to the good government of Nigeria". And what did they do? These are friends of the Vice President, Abubakar Atiku, (closeness to the VP is a major crime in the corridors of power these days); in addition, these members of the Turaki Vanguard had the effrontery to describe the current Federal Government as "corrupt". The case is in court. It will be interesting to know what the court will come up with.

But so far, what is indicated in all these instances of repression, is sheer blackmail and abuse of fundamental human rights. The "police permit" that security agencies continue to insist upon has since been upheld by the Court of Appeal in the case of Lewis Chukwuma and 2 ors v. Commissioner of Police (March 2005). Nonetheless, the conduct of the police and other security agencies in these matters amounts to a violation of the right to the dignity of the human person. Of what use is the brutalisation of Francis Amadiegwu? The fellow should go to court to enforce his rights under the Constitution. The job of the police and the SSS is to ensure security, not to act as an attack dog against perceived enemies of the President. If the politicians who gathered at the Sheraton Hotel had been friends of the President, definitely they would have been offered state protection.

There is a creeping absence of civility in the conduct of public officials at the highest levels. "Instructions from above?" Who else could have given such instructions to brutalise members of the National Assembly, a former Head of State, former Governors, former Inspectors-General of Police, former Ministers just because they dared to differ? If Major-General Muhammadu Buhari had defied the SSS Director, and tried to enter the hall, would he also have been wrestled to the ground and beaten "black and blue"? If the Governors had organised a rebellion, would they also have been beaten "black and blue"? Whoever gave those "instructions from above" cares very little about civility. There is only one way to describe what is happening: it is bad.

Defiant, the anti-third term protesters moved their meeting to the Niger State Governor's Lodge, where with Governor Abdulkadir Kure as their host, they met till 12 midnight. Curiously, the security agents did not go to that other venue to disrupt the meeting. Was there a police permit for that second meeting? Or the police and the SSS did not consider the logic and consistency of their action? Anyhow, their point had been made based on 'anti-democratic instructions from above". But the main significance of the meeting hosted by the Niger State Governor was the presence of the Vice President Atiku Abubakar. The relationship between the President and his Deputy collapsed a long time ago. But the Vice President has been fighting quietly, while the President has done whatever he can to make him redundant and to ridicule him. Note: Atiku's supporters are in court for opposing the Federal Government; the "Turaki Vanguard", the VP's political machinery has been labelled a dangerous society, and yet this was the same machinery that facilitated the President's election in 1999.

But we have now reached a point when the Vice President is fighting his boss publicly. The President had once accused him of disloyalty: he is now affirming that disloyalty by declaring, once more, his opposition to the transformation of the PDP into a one-man estate, and the abuse of Presidential office. At the meeting at the Niger State Lodge, Atiku openly called on members of the National Assembly to oppose President Obasanjo; he also invited more persons to join the anti-third term campaign. Atiku is an insider, even if his boss has labelled him a leper. His open revolt confirms the existence of a third term agenda.

Atiku's words bristled with anger and disgust. He holds his boss in extremely low esteem. He even called on Nigerians to stand up and protect democracy. And he pledged his loyalty to the struggle; "I want to assure you I am always available and I will give you any support that you need, I will be with you, look when I begin to talk, you will know more". Without any doubt, the Nigerian Presidency has collapsed. The feud between the President and his Deputy has brought that exalted office to great ridicule. With Atiku coming out in the open to organise a rebellion against his boss, it is doubtful if any real governance can take place henceforth. What the Vice President has done is to stage a moral coup against his boss. President Obasanjo may not know it, but his Deputy has proven to be a master politician, he has dealt him a deep, retaliatory cut.

There are some moral questions. If Vice President Atiku is so disgusted with his boss, the PDP and the character of government, should he continue to remain in office? Shouldn't he just walk away and build up the opposition? Does he not see a contradiction in the dual role he now plays as an insider and outsider? If he openly identifies with "enemies of the government and enemies of the President", would he not feel uncomfortable sitting at the same table with the President? I once wrote that there would be injuries on all sides in the Atiku-Obasanjo feud. I also predicted that the "body bags would soon begin to arrive, and we shall start counting, " ("The long knives are out for Atiku", The Guardian, September 2. 2005, p. 51.) We have now entered that season of the swords! Femi Fani-Kayode acting on "instructions from above," has asked Vice President Atiku to resign. You see the kind of government they are running in Abuja: a Presidential Assistant abusing the Vice President? Surely, Atiku is not going to resign: his strength lies in the fact that he is an aggrieved and well-positioned insider. As Vice-President, he is covered by constitutional immunity. He will hold on to that until his fight with the President is resolved: the battle has gone so far now, The Vice President can only be removed in four ways: if he suddenly dies, if he is incapacitated, if he is impeached or if he chooses to resign. The emergent dilemma is that he will not resign and the National Assembly has already been put in a difficult situation where it cannot afford to take sides in the Presidential debacle.

Whichever way it all goes, Atiku's revolt is bound to become another major event in the history of Nigeria's Fourth Republic, in more or less the same class as the crisis in Anambra, Plateau, Oyo, and Bayelsa, except that for now, it is difficult to predict the end of this particular battle. What can be safely surmised is that President Obasanjo may soon discover that he is about to receive another lesson in the intricacies of power politics. Abacha taught him that lesson once. The second lesson may come from Atiku. Why, to start with, did the Niger State Governor agree to host the anti-third term campaigners? Why was the Niger state Governor so defiant? The long awaited "bloodshed" in the Presidency has begun, Poor Nigerians.

Source
http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/editorial_opinion/article02