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Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 11:34am On Jan 07, 2019
Horlufemi:
They even forget Abraham returned the 90% he didn't keep anything.

From the spoils

1. He gave 10% to the preist
2. He returned 90%

I would gladly tithe like that but I will be broke and they will say I don't have the spirit of God.
grin
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 11:03pm On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
So, animals and women are the only things found in spoils of war. grin

That means Abraham left the horses, the gold crowns of the kings he killed, their shields, swords, armours, wheelbarrows, and only took animals and women?

Abraham was not as silly as you. Those verses you quoted are not standard for what spoils of war are.
Now you have resorted to insults cheesy cheesy
I can give you equal measure if you choose such! grin

However am in a good mood so let me get into detail and explain further using scriptures....

Genesis 14:11-16
11 So the enemy took all the possessions of Sodom and Gomorrah, and all their provisions, and went their way. 12 They also took Lot, the son of Abram's brother, who was dwelling in Sodom, and his possessions, and went their way.

13 Then one who had escaped came and told Abram the Hebrew, who was living by the oaks[a] of Mamre the Amorite, brother of Eshcol and of Aner. These were allies of Abram. 14 When Abram heard that his kinsman had been taken captive, he led forth his trained men, born in his house, 318 of them, and went in pursuit as far as Dan. 15 And he divided his forces against them by night, he and his servants, and defeated them and pursued them to Hobah, north of Damascus. 16 Then he brought back all the possessions, and also brought back his kinsman Lot with his possessions, and the women and the people.
(The voice)
16 After the battle Abram recovered all the spoils the enemy had taken and brought them back with him. He rescued his nephew Lot and brought him back, along with his goods; there were other captives, too, including some women whom he rescued.

The reason for the scriptures is to show that the enemies that took Abram's Cousin was defeated even before they got to their own land...so why would they have money or agric products with them while fighting abram and his men?

Abram only took what was in the enemy's possession which was mainly weapons,the captured women and abram's cousin lot as stated clearly in the scriptures...There was no MONEY with the kings...fake professor alBHAGDADI grin grin

Stop adding to scriptures or second guessing it! grin grin


Trying so hard to ensure that the defeated kings must have had money in their possession or that abram found some money with the defeated kings only proves how deceptive your doctrines(if you ever had any) are!


Whatever possession that was found in Abraham's plunder does not take away the fact that he was never ever in the scriptures COMMANDED OR INSTRUCTED BY GOD TO GIVE KING MELCHIZEDEK a tenth of the war spoils! cool cool
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 10:43pm On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Who gives you an increase? Is it not God? He says we should honor him with the first fruit of our increase.

Proverbs 3:9-19
9 Honor the Lord with your substance and with the first fruit of all thine increase.

Now, how do we know what percentage it is we are to give God from what he gave us? An example is from what Jacob said, which is tenth of all God gives him.

Genesis 28:22
And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth unto thee.
this is what you said about firstfruit
first fruit may be the whole of January salary. Now, if you give the whole of January salary
Now how does this agree with the verses you just churned out?
Secondly,the scriptures is quite clear about jacob....
Jacob MADE A VOW!
he was never COMMANDED BY GOD TO DO SUCH rather he DEMANDED FROM GOD WITH A VOW!
See below...

20 And Jacob VOWED A VOW, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,
So jacob gave first-fruits to God? grin grin
Its no longer tithes? grin grin
unbelievable! grin grin

You still haven't defined first fruit based on the scriptures!
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 5:25pm On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Did you see it to know for sure, or you are just talking?

The Bible says he gave a tenth of ALL, and all means all. Or didn't I show you how it is possible that money was among the spoils of war?
You are really hellbent on inserting money into abraham war spoils grin grin
Oga hebrews 7 has laid to rest what abraham gave...which is a tenth of the plunder(war spoils)

Hebrews 7:4
4 See how great this man was to whom Abraham the patriarch gave a tenth of the war spoils!

what are war spoils according to scriptures?

Genesis 34:28

They took their flocks and their herds and their donkeys, and that which was in the city and that which was in the field;

Exodus 12:36
and the LORD had given the people favor in the sight of the Egyptians, so that they let them have their request. Thus they plundered the Egyptians.

Numbers 31:9

The sons of Israel captured the women of Midian and their little ones; and all their cattle and all their flocks and all their goods they plundered.

Deuteronomy 2:35
"We took only the animals as our booty and the spoil of the cities which we had captured.

Deuteronomy 13:16

"Then you shall gather all its booty into the middle of its open square and burn the city and all its booty with fire as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God; and it shall be a ruin forever. It shall never be rebuilt.
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 5:14pm On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
No need for scripture here, just common sense.

If you say first fruit and tithing are different, then you will come across an error. To you, first fruit may be the whole of January salary. Now, if you give the whole of January salary, how will you now pay tithe for January? Can you now see the error?
so now we dont need the holy spirit right now...we need common sense according to professor albhagdadi! grin grin
So you are saying if an unbeliever decides to ask you this simple question,you will grant them such response? cheesy
Where is it written in the bible that firstfruit is a tenth of a month's salary?
If you can't provide "scriptures" to prove your analogies are true,then what you have just written is false!
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 11:22am On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Did Christ condemn him for paying tithe in that manner or for boasting about it?
Christ used the parable to illustrate the shallowness and hypocrisy of the Pharisees not for you to use that same practice as an example to your belief!
Now the question: is the practice of the Pharisee that was illustrated by Christ in accordance with the then laws of moses?
absolutely not!
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m):
alBHAGDADI:
How agricultural produce take enter spoils of war?

Don't you know that money, agricultural produce, shields, swords, horses etc were part of what the people of old always take to war? The money was used to pay soldiers their wages and buy more supplies, while the agricultural produce served as food.
The bible says a tenth of the war spoils or plunder!
Money is not included in the spoils of war just goods that are of immerse value!
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 11:13am On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Read below.

http:///nwobv_full_english.html
Oga give me scriptures not articles!
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 11:12am On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
It is another word for tithe.
Good! So give me scriptures where such can be found about first fruit! no long story!
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 10:49am On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
If money tithe was wrong, Jesus would have condemned the Pharisee for that. Rather, he condemned him for boasting about it. This clearly shows that money tithe was part of tithing then and Jesus never condemned it.
That scripture was a parable where Jesus was illustrating the carnal and dangerous mind of the Pharisees which ran contrary to the laws of moses then!
So you are going to obey the carnal worship of a Pharisee simply becos it has to do with "money" in the parable of Christ?
Ohh lord...smh
Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 9:22am On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Tithe includes money otherwise it would make no sense for the man below to say he pays a tithe of all he possesses. This definitely must include money which was a possession then

Luke 18:12
I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

Even Abraham when he gave Melchizedek/Jesus tithe, the Bible records that he gave a tithe of all. This definitely shows that money is included because he must have gotten money and gold from the spoils of war.

Genesis 14:20
And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
Oga na plunder nah aka "war spoils"....how money take enter war spoils?
There is also a difference between a parable and a then existing law....!
Jesus used the illustration to show the emptiness and hypocrisies of the Pharisees!
Chai Chai

Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 9:08am On Jan 06, 2019
alBHAGDADI:
Please stay away from all those Bible translations. They are actually Satan's handwork in that they pervert God's word. Same thing with NIV and NLT.

The only translation I recommend is the KING JAMES VERSION which is older than all these modern and Satan inspired Bibles. Research more on the. and you will see that they call Jesus Satan.
Ohhh My God! grin grin

Christianity EtcRe: It Is Not The Law Of Moses But God Himself That Tells Us To Give First Fruit by openmine(m): 9:02am On Jan 06, 2019
Chai na wa ohh
so first fruit is also 10% of one's wages according to the OP?
grin grin

PoliticsRe: Coordinator: No Corruption Claim Against Atiku Has Been Substantiated by openmine(m): 6:37am On Jan 06, 2019
post=74491910:
They keep talking with the 2 sides of their mouth....

He will surely go.to jail, both nationally and internationally at the end of the day.

Atiku is only living on borrowed time
Too much talk!
Get a stone wall evidence and give it to your houseboys EFCC to arrest Atiku!
But Guess what?
it won't happen....Why?
Arresting or even Prosecuting an atiku will ultimately implicate and expose your Oga @ the top!

That's because the evidence will directly expose your lord and master as the most corrupt president Nigeria ever had!

I guess your president is damned on both sides!
PoliticsRe: Just In: Buhari Orders Prosecution Of Pinnick Over NFF Multi-billion Alleged Fra by openmine(m): 3:04pm On Jan 05, 2019
sensisosu:
I thought efcc is an independent organization.. why do they have to get orders from the president to prosecute or investigate?
grin grin
PoliticsRe: Just In: Buhari Orders Prosecution Of Pinnick Over NFF Multi-billion Alleged Fra by openmine(m): 3:00pm On Jan 05, 2019
FIFA ban loading....
CrimeRe: Man Cries Out After Rushing An unknown hit-and-run victim to hospital (Photos) by openmine(m): 2:22pm On Jan 05, 2019
Just a week ago a lady was knocked down by a hit and run car....but instead of taking her to a nearby hospital,some people including the poster was busy taking pics proclaiming her dead....The poor lady was there for over 2 hours before she was taken to a hospital where she died because she wasn't brought in earlier!

if the poster had done what this guy just did,that lady last week would have been alive and recuperating!
CrimeRe: Man Cries Out After Rushing An unknown hit-and-run victim to hospital (Photos) by openmine(m): 2:12pm On Jan 05, 2019
franchasng:
How I wish they can ban all yellow commercial buses in Lagos; Danfo and LT, even Keke are all societal vices and nuisance angry angry


So reckless, wicked, inconsiderate and inhumane set of people including Lagosians that board these buses and keke, they will never caution these useless, drunk, drug induced drivers when they are driving reckless instead passengers even hail them angry angry

Nigerians should enjoy their messed up leaders and society because we are a reflection of our leaders and society undecided

What stops the passengers from forcing the driver to stophuh Why can't they confront the driver knowing fully well they could be next victim tomorrowhuh

Messed up nation with messed up citizens angry angry
You are absolutely right!
When they are far away,they won't speed up but once they are close to someone crossing,they over speed as if the person is obstructing them!

The worst part is the passengers who will even blame the passerby for not being sharp and fast....seriously,Nigeria deserves the leaders they are getting!
SportsRe: Bournemouth Signs Dominic Solanke From Liverpool (Photos) by openmine(m): 9:10pm On Jan 04, 2019
StOla:
Serious flop at Liverpool.

He failed to seize at Liverpool the kind of opportunity that Dele Alli seized at Tottenham.

Let him start at the Championship level, Premiership is to much of an expectation for him.
Bournemouth is a premier league outfit not a championship side!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 3:15pm On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
E don do Oga.
Bye!
ogabluearmy i no hold you nah grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 3:02pm On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
I take my cues from you. Cry cry baby.
grin Sorry you don't know me.....but I know your type! Whining over a footie club side that doesn't even know you exist! Now keep nagging like an overgrown baby because of footie! grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 2:34pm On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Tell yourself that if it helps you sleep at night.

Cry cry baby.

Even Klopp is crying that Kompany should have been sent off.
Save your tears. There will be bucketloads of them come May.

#Guardiolasblueandwhitearmy.
grin grin
crying over a soccer club?
Are you seriously serious?
Guy I got better things to do than cry over a footie club!

Maybe you were crying,pained and frustrated when you lost 3 times this season,but not me! grin

Klopp is an analyst and a coach.....he gave his own opinion!
Why is that ur problem!

Guy go find better thing do....your endless and regurgitated "cry river/ocean" is getting hilarious! grin
CelebritiesRe: Adediwura Becky 2001 Throwback Vs 2018 Pictures. "How I Take Get Big Breast?" by openmine(m): 2:26pm On Jan 04, 2019
Mostly weight gain! I knew a lady who was like the letter I....No butt or boobs! However,I met her some years later and I was so shocked by her transformation! She was married and then the enlargement stuff wasn't even popular then! She told me she added "small" weight! So its possible!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 2:09pm On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
E does not affect you yet you keep typing long responses.

Cry me an ocean biko!
Guy am just a supporter not a crazy fan like you who keeps churning out repetitions to sound soccer smart!

No...abeg try go cry on top the world since that is your job spec on earth.. grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 2:04pm On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
Everyone is behind Liverpool duh. It's January.
Keep consoling yourself. I'm sure like Lovren, you were secretly hoping to go the season unbeaten.
Cry me a lake. Loserpool.!!!
Guy you are sounding like a 1750 broken record....grin grin
Your uncoordinated repetitions are too stale and unintelligible!
cry you a river becos of a loss or a club that won't pay you nothing for winning or losing? grin grin
Guy try reason small nah.... grin
why all this nagging because of a single loss by Liverpool?
Hope you don't do the unthinkable when Liverpool lifts the trophy by may....grin grin

loserpool kor grin
Guy there is a saying that when you endlessly keep calling a person or thing a loser,you will automatically become one!
Be mindful about what you say this year! grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m):
Ranchhoddas:
Trash
Then why bother commenting at all?

E pain am.
Typical loserpool supporter.
I asked you simple questions but you stylishly ignored....who is behind Liverpool?
Who is playing catch up to Liverpool?
Who is praying for Liverpool to drop points?
Until you have answered those questions, you are the one that is actually scared and terrified! grin grin
Get a life bro...do I look like someone who is pained?
Make this soccer no make una commit suicide because of Liverpool ohh....grin grin
Calling that stale word "loserpool" a million times doesn't change the fact that you are playing catch up to Liverpool! grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 1:43am On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
I know you are sad and scared.
Sorry man.
The Citizens are hot on your trail. You know it deep down. Loserpool is going to squander it as usual.
It's just January.

Fun Fact: City will win the Carabao cup as an appetizer.
Liverpool will end trophyless for the umpteenth time in a row.
YN win A.
Sad kor scared nee? Are you serious about that comment?
Do I look like someone that will get sentimental because of a footie club side? grin
Guy am a footie lover and I support LFC but am no crazy fan who would kill himself like you who takes it as a do or die affair as if your entire life circle depends on it! grin

Hotnote kor!
So they are behind Liverpool?
In other words,man city is the one playing catch up.....grin grin
Hahahahaha.... I thought it should have been the other way round......how times change! grin

Like I said,keep your whining and chattering till the league is over!
Go get some sleep bro!
Manshity ain't paying you to defend them... grin grin

Please use your hilarious fun facts to buy yourself some cold pure water...okay?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 1:19am On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
No I haven't.

The truth is all I have.

You will choke as usual.
Blah blah blah
Same old story... grin
You have nothing but the past!
Aside that,there is nothing tangible you have to offer!
Choke ke when you have been choked by a relegation threatened team like crystal palace?
Succumbed to a struggling Leicester city and caged by a blunt attacking chelsea team... grin
That goal from townsend is still fresh in my memory... hohohoho grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 1:02am On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
And you are revelling in an illusory present.

YNWA -- You'll never win again.
nah you are the one muddled up in the past calling the name of a player demba ba that may have retired from footie grin grin
I guess you are still hung up in 2013 grin

Another stale trashy acronym.... have you got some thing better than that? grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 12:30am On Jan 04, 2019
Ranchhoddas:
They don't hand out league titles in January.

Demba Ba.
Another stale response from whiners and haters! cheesy cheesy
What has 2013 got to do with 2019? grin grin
Bro would you have said this had liverpool drawn or won?
Do you see demba ba playing for chelsea?
Or Gerard? grin grin
You haters are still living in the past grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m): 12:05am On Jan 04, 2019
ComradeShegs:
Last season Liverpool broke Mancity's unbeaten run and Mancity won the league, this season Mancity just broke Liverpool's unbeaten run,....Are u thinking what I'm thinking?
sure cheesy cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Manchester City Vs Liverpool (2 - 1) On 3rd January 2019 by openmine(m):
Ranchhoddas:
Are you dreaming?

This is when the real pressure starts. Eternal chokers.
YNWA --You'll never win again.

#Guardiolasblueandwhitearmy
cheesy cheesy
You must be high on something....
and what happened against chelsea,Leicester city and crystal palace.....? i guess those teams choked the living day light out of manshity grin grin
Last time i checked we still lead by 4 points grin grin grin
Cry me a river whiners grin grin grin
And dont worry,we will still be leading by more points till May...
YNWA

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