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And I hate money, good food and cute ladies too
Everybody knows that

I remember being flogged until my shorts were torn

LuciferKoran:
Why did she have to lie about herself?
If she can lie about something as stupid as her ass just for marriage then she can lie about the paternity of his kids.



By the way, if he married her for ass is it bad?
Don't people marry for money & position too?

I actually advise people to marry based on sexual attraction because when boredom sets into your marriage that's the end.

Forget all that "intelligence, hardworking, good cook, wife material" BS they tell you to sound moral.

When making the decision on who to marry whether for male or female, the only question should be;
Can I still be fvcking this person in 10 years' time?

If your answer is Yes, ride on.
If it is No, run away.

Sex is the foundation of any marriage.



*spits

Brov,
How can I mail you a gaddam beer ...

Alexis Sanchez own pain me pass...

Wow, he didn't go to China

Taofeekdboy:
What Mrbrownjay1 said is true to an extent, I wondmt deny the fact that they do humiliate or delay Nigerians at POE of some countries but it has never occurred to me before. Holders of Nigeria passport are not allowed to apply for some visa categories but at times if you are a resident of some countries, it might be allowed but in the case of OP, he didn't check if Nigeria passport is allowed to apply or if you are only a resident of the country.

I applied with a Nigerian passport.
On all the Documents, Nigeria was written.

Embassy did not comment on Nigerians being restricted for work visas, they only said entry is at the discretion of immigration.

saintandsinnerz:
I think you're a liar and probably a tribal bigot! How many Igbos live in Mongolia to make them have an Igbo speaking officer? You keep mentioning Igbos in all your write up just to make it look as if it is because of the activities of the Igbos living there that contributed to your ordeal. Fyi, Mongolia is the poorest country in Northeast Asia and one of the poorest in the whole of Asia. There are very little Nigerians there.

But seriously, how does this post change the fact that this happened?

Are you angry that an Asian immigration officer could speak Igbo or what are you fuming about?

MrBrownJay1:
True bro, but making it seem like it's all the immigration officer's fault because he was doing his job, is a funny part... Now would you bend the rules at your place of work (risking losing your job) for a total stranger?!

I also do know that they have to give you a valid written statement to take with you so that airline can take you back at ThHEIR cost.

I once knew someone that had similar issue as the OP (wrongly obtained visa)... The girl was from Yugoslavia, had a permanent residency in Italy, and when she applied for Asian work visa as "citizenship" she wrote ITALIAN..... And on the damn visa it was indeed written ITALIAN Then the biatch cried foul when she got refused entry.....



Yes his story is correct that he applied for a visa that Nigerians are not allowed to get, and when immigration officer did his job, he turned around a made it seem like he was singled out because he was Nigerian... While the reality is that he was singled out because he had a WRONG visa that he shouldn't have had from the beginning, and the immigration officer DID HIS JOB.
Yet here you are still saying that there is "no fault" in a guy having a wrongly obtained visa trying to enter a country with it. Really?!?!?! So I guess he was refused entry because they are racist right?! Because everyone hates Nigerians, right? Lol



You may be the ones that believe all the nonsense stories that are littered on NL (regarding travels/visas) but I know better than to believe most. If you check deeper, you will realize That the majority of these people have fake/dubious or simply wrong documentation (like the OP) but yet, because they spent money on tickets etc, they expect to be let in on pity/charity ground, highly laughable.

Now the issue would actually be simple if we ask/answer the RIGHT question, which is: can Nigerians obtain a visa to lecture in Mongolia?! and if they don't, then why does this person believe that he should be let in with such visa wrongly obtained?

Till tomorrow I am ready to defend the fact that my visa was not wrongly obtained.

I passed through the proper procedures, and I have kept on underlining the fact that it was approved by the Mongolian government. I didn't nominate myself to be part of the faculty, the nomination was from Ulanbataar itself.


Getting to that level of having a work visa supported by an institution should tell you a thing or two about my profile.

It was and is not stated anywhere that Nigerians were banned from working in Mongolia, neither was I informed about such ban throughout the whole process, until my arrival at that Airport... which is why my work visa got approved from the government and get this, with a Nigerian passport...

Perhaps you have been to Mongolia and understand their laws and the clockwork of their system.
Since you are this analytical, how about explaining why this large grey area exists?

I would also like your take on the Mongolian embassy keeping mute about the Nigerian work visa ban, even after the episode at Ulanbataar?

MrBrownJay1:
So you were refused entry, NO official paperwork was given to you to sign? NO official papers was handed to you/airline to have you sent back to where you came from? NO statement to have you go to transit wherever you were traveling to, nada? NO clear reason whatsoever so that the airline that brought you can take you back? you just went back in the departure hall and just waltz back unto the next plane with no official statement or official signed reason from immigration?! Hard to believe....

Believe it or not it happened... there are some parts of the world that are indeed strange.
But that was my ordeal at Mongolia, I would have put up some documents here for you to see, especially since you think I am talking random stuff, perhaps you would be enlightened & see that large grey area I am talking about, but I don't know how to do it without revealing sensitive information.
Try to also understand that during the whole episode they were speaking Mongol back and forth so I don't know what must have transpired. All I know was that the Nigerian passport had me in a fix.

MrBrownJay1:
ok you must not understand my English, my bad, let me rephrase... what was written on the below:

After I had left Ulanbataar the institution sent me a letter explaining that the reason was because Nigerian nationals were banned from work visas... I wasn't given any formal letter from the immigration, this letter was even from the institution.

MrBrownJay1:
again bro, WHAT WAS WRITTEN AS THE REASON FOR YOUR REFUSED ENTRY?

There was no written statement, nothing at all...
I was simply told I would be refused entry.

MrBrownJay1:
- did you confirm that when your institution made the application, and was approved by ministry of labor, it was clearly stated that you were a Nigerian citizen?

- in the "citizenship" part of your visa (or any papers provided to ministry), was it written NIGERIA?




again, what was written on the letter given to you when refused entry at airport?



what about...
E- your institution for giving the wrong information to obtain work permit from minitry.



then thats what would be written on the entry refusal letter, not your citizenship.



i guess someone must have made the mistake telling them you were Greek

Once again everything was proper and legit...
No mistake of the sort mate, on my reference letter it was clearly stated I was Nigerian-with my passport number, the approval letters were sent with scanned pages of my passport data page.

Call a spade a spade mate don't crack your head.

Mongolia's immigration pissed on me.

MrBrownJay1:
MISTAKE #1
1) Did you ever check if you could legitimately apply for such visa (as a Nigerian) in order to lecture in that faculty?
If you had, you wouldn't have been in such predicament....thus BLAME YOURSELF!!!!



MISTAKE #2
It is well known, and actually stated on the papers you signed at embassy that a visa holder can be denied at POE if the visa holder don't have required necessary proof that they have a legitimate reason to travel to said country. Can you share that letter to us, or what exactly was written on the letter they gave you before being refused entry. If that's what the letter said then why are you doubting it?!

Again, did you actually check afterwards if Nigerians were allowed to have such visas.



Let me help you with your 3rd MISTAKE... It is very easy to find out..... What type of visa did you apply for and in which Asian country?



MISTAKE #4
It all depends on A) if the documents you handed were genuine, B) reason for traveling is genuine and C) as stated earlier, if for any reason the immigration officer don't believe your story (or it doesn't match what was written when applying for the visa) then you would be refused entry.

The fact that BOTH institutions contacted immigration AND STILL you were refused entry, shows us all that this has nothing to do but you having the wrong paperwork.



Well you are Nigerian, igbos are Nigerians so he may have thought you were Igbo... No big deal! Why do you want o make a big deal out of it?



FINAL MISTAKE
Although it could have happened to anyone (whether Nigerians or Japanese), I certainly wouldn't believe that the reason for that is "being Nigerian".

I quoted all you said because it doesn't Apply... all.

First of all let me tell you how work permits are issued in Mongolia.

1-The sponsoring institution makes the application on your behalf, and once it is approved by the ministry of interior and labour, then you are set to make an application for the work visa at the Embassy with the documents... in my case, it was approved because my institution made the application and once again I recieved the "Go ahead letter" ie documents to apply, *From their Government*

2-My visa was approved because requirements for step one were satisfied and was approved.

Fast forward to arrival ...

3- I was told simply by immigration that I would not be given entry after all the approved steps and procedures "because I was Nigerian" ??
simple the officer was straightforward about it.

4- Embassy did not comment on the matter afterwards...

5- Case closed till today

If you are rushing yards to the blame game without asking questions ... in this case who is to blame?

A- Me for using a valid visa
B- Embassy for issuing a valid visa
C- Their Government for approving the visa
D- Immigration for cancelling a valid visa

Originality or legit status of the visa was not the issue because it was all proper, the main point of this whole episode at Ulanbataar, was everything that happened laid entirely at the discretion of the immigration officials and you cant tell me there was no element of maltreatment because I know what happened.

In case you missed it, the institution admitted I was treated unfairly and Apologized however there was nothing they could do about it, unless I had alternate citizenship.

Please note, it wasn't stated anywhere in their procedures that Nigerians were banned from visa applications, I am a seasoned traveller myself so I know better when making applications- besides the visa category I had, was approved by their government ...this was not about appropriate procedures or following the right approach, this was about the treatment from their immigration I recieved.

otokx:
What is the native name of the country that turned you back even though you had a valid visa?

Mongolia

andrew444:
No mind the guy ,he was probably having a fake visa self

Who even allowed him get past the Nigeria airport at first ,now he have to put the blame on Nigeria passport and he is not being wise

Smh

Read my post well...
It was an original visa.
I don't live in Nigeria.

MrBrownJay1:
Stop the whining and get your facts RIGHT... If you applied for a visa meant for certain passport holders (which you are not part of) then why would you think you will get in with the WRONG VISA?!?! whoever applied for that visa for you made a GRAVE mistake, blame THEM, not people actually doing their jobs.

Not all visas have the same requirements, so therefore you have to be careful when applying for it. Many people believe that because they have RESIDENT permit of a country, they therefore have the same rights as the citizens of that said country, when applying for visas to go to other places, WRONG!



WRONG!!!!!! You were refused entry because you did NOT have a VALID visa To enter the country... How foolish of you to have a visa that Nigerians are Not allowed to possess, and when the immigration officer stops you for it, you want to blame the person doing their job as the reason being profiling because you are Nigerians?!

...and you call yourself an educated person?! If you don't want to get humiliated at airport then GET THE RIGHT VISA next time.

You obviously did not read and understand my post.
I will break it down; Now after reading, please respond appropriately to my questions...

*Please note; I am based in Europe, all applications and inquiries were done by me, no third party, I am well traveled*

1- I recieved what you would call "An international job offer" to lecture in a faculty for a semester. "All sponsored"

2- I recieved the authorization to apply for a work permit from the ministry of interior processed by my inviting institution.

3- I was given the necessary documents to apply for the work visa after submitting, signed contracts and respective documents via post.

Are you following... good.

4- I contacted the embassy and applied for the visa as you normally would at any embassy with the given documents I.e invitation and authority to work etc *Take note I even had a semi interview at the embassy*

5- Visa was issued via courier. I.e work visa

6- Ticket was bought and respective authorities were informed about my flight itenary for pickup.

7- At passport control I was singled out, because Immigration officer said something about "Naijariya" referring to me.

8- I was interrogated for my reason for visiting, Igbo speaking supercop, came and questioned me.

9- My institution was involved as it heard I was stopped at POE.

10- Visa was cancelled with letter stating Nigerians are banned from that work visa.

11- Flew back after failed attempts by my institution to petition the case.

Please note, I contacted the embassy after the incident and their response was, the immigration has the jurisdiction to allow or not allow who they want into the country, however they did not and refused to comment about Nigerian citizens and visa bans ... I dropped the case 2017 as it seemed to go down the drain.

1-Now with your squared vision, if an application passed through a Government procedure and was approved does it not qualify as legit?

2- Why on earth would they call an Igbo speaking official to interogate me?

3- Was I wrong to share an experience that could have happened to you?

4- In what way did I breach the rules of their visa requirements especially since the embassy and ministry of interior approved my application?

I think the material for 100 Naira note yaf finish

TheCongo2:
There we go again, Nigerians with their victims mentality. What made you think if you were holding a different African passport you would have been treated differently? People of all nationalities have been denied entries all over the world for any reason and some time for no reason at all.

I have been on Nairaland for 10 years and I am impressed by the wealth of knowledge on this site that had made me fall in love of Nigeria and its people. Nigeria has some of the best and most innovative minds I have ever come across.

However, one thing I don't agree with is the fact that some Nigerians think the entire world is against or after them. We are all black. Therefore we all go through the same hardship in this world as black people.

I may agree if someone say he/she had been profiled because of his skin color. However, I always fail to understand how anyone can even think that a motorist was pulled over by police in the west because that motorist is Nigerian. How can the police even know the nationality of a person before pulling him over.

My dear Nigerians, it is time to stop this whining.

I really appreciate your good spirit in patriotism, however I was the one who experienced the ordeal.
And I am boldly telling you I had a work permit cancelled on the grounds of holding a Nigerian passport. I was directly told, that "Nigerians and Afghans were barred from that visa category" I.e working visas...

I made the visa application in Athens Greece with my EU residency permit at the time, so I guess I was assumed to be a European citizen (especially since I have diplomas obtained from European universities) perhaps that's why my passport was overlooked.

However at the POE my visa was cancelled the moment I presented my passport, I was even asked by the University if I had another passport/alternate citizenship so they could petition my re-entry, but I said no... it would interest you to know my colleague who went there on the same scheme is from Senegal.

I was profiled by immigration and an officer even attempted questioning me in Igbo language, does that not strike a chord already?

So what am I whining about oga??
By stating the obvious that I was refused entry outrightly by the reason of being a Nigerian??
Do you want me to also show you immigration letters I got on that regard?

If you don't know about a situation, please ask... don't conclude matters.
People have actually been harassed during immigration control in various countries, just by virtue of being Nigerian passport holder's and that is what this thread is about... sharing such experiences.

I would suggest that you sit back and read what other people have gone through, and you would be enlightened.

oshobugie22:
Sighs

Mine was Mauritius ��


First time traveling outside


Was sent back oo

What Happened?

Immatex:
How can you say a person spoke Igbo fluently when you don't understand a word in Igbo

If you hear Hausa, Yoruba or igbo being spoken by someone, aren't you Nigerian enough to tell if it sounds legit or not?

Besides, I said he apparently spoke Igbo rather fluently, because I know what Igbo sounds like and basically the official made sense in his use of the Igbo language.
I told him I didn't understand a word he was saying because I don't speak Igbo fluently as a language, but that doesn't mean I can't tell when someone is speaking Igbo.

The point is, I was profiled by an Asian Immigration officer who could speak Igbo.

I saw an earlier post about the humiliation people with Nigerian passports experience at P.O.E's and immigration checks around the world, however I feel experiences should be shared to put the predicament of Nigerian passport holder's in perspective....


**One of My most severe Experiences**

I once had a work visa cancelled because I was a Nigerian passport holder back in 2016. Trust me the experience was humiliating.

I will recount the whole experience.
Some years ago, I was invited to lecture at a University in an Asian country for a semester, I was excited about the new opportunity.
However at the port of entry, the immigration of the country told me that the visa I was using was restricted from Nigerian passport holder's (I was given a work visa) I was shocked as I was refused entry outright, each time Nigeria was mentioned by any of the immigration officials, it was met with a word I later learnt was no and violent shaking of the head(several phone calls were made).

I alerted the university, the ministry of labour and the ministry of interior who sent the approval letters for my work visa, and can you believe my work visa was cancelled almost on the spot, just because I was holding a Nigerian passport?

I have European academic degrees, and I got the visa from a European country, so it was assumed I was a European. However on discovering I was Nigerian, they completely threw in the trash the fact that I was an invited academic researcher with advanced degrees, all they saw was my Nigerian passport.

I was given apologies, after the whole soap opera, but the humiliation was not something to forget. I thought deeply; If I was using Togo, Chad, Ivory coast, Kenya, Uganda or any other African passport, wouldn't I have been spared from that humiliating experience? however that green passport was my downdoing.

Fyi, I was profiled by an immigration officer who apparently spoke Igbo rather fluently (I found it weird coming from an Asian ) ... the man stopped when I told him I am not Igbo and I didn't understand a word of what he was saying.

Muscomide:
So why the cryptic post? Dem forbid you to name the country wen humiliate you?

Naming the country is beside the point.

swaggerkid:
Let's stop this mediocrity.
Fraud is not nigerias problem.
I repeat fraud is not nigerias problem.
The country has failed it self.

Nigeria is not even up to top 7 in countries that engage in fraud. Even the americans defrauds their people more than anywhere with credit card frauds.
Then you mention Uk with bank frauds.
Russia with evil hackings.
Several countries that have severe dent on their image with fraud.

But nigeria which is just 5 percent of the fraud industry is what people make noise about.

Face the bigger problems.
When a master makes mistakes he blames his tools. Look at the bigger picture of nigeria , not microscopic problems .

Other countries have narcotic problems , terrorism ish e.t.c but they don't blame it for their failure in other sectors .


You'd be surprised most foreigners don't even know this country exists.
Na una they over hype unaself .

Bros,
I doubt you have ever traveled with a Nigerian passport before...
I challenge you to travel within Africa (dont even go far) with your passport and observe how you are treated at control points compared to other African nationales, then tell me if you still think the world doesn't know about Nigeria.

haaaaaaaaa:
As far as I am concerned, there are still very good Nigerians abroad doing marvelously well and are highly respected.

The point is; the integrity of Nigeria's passport is screwed up. We are not talking about if Nigerians are not doing well abroad- if you like be a classified Data Engineer at NASA, if you use a Nigerian passport to travel to a place like Italy, you will regret why you don't own another passport.

The image of the passport is screwed up, get it ... screwed up.

folavictor:
hi
i am currently a masters student in dijon france and i am almost rounding up my masters and i will very much love to remain in france and get a job. i have heard it is risky to take the 1 year nonrenewable extension i would love your advice on how easy it is to get a professional job in france after the masters.

How fluent are you in speaking, reading and writing French on a scale of 1-10?

Beautyaddy:
lol!...Even with the so-called toughest visa they claim Nigeria has( which is still not entirely true) what is the current situation of Nigeria right now that it can boast about that is great compared to other countries whose visas are not tough

A simple Google search will let you know why Nigeria has one of the toughest visa procedures in the world.

Secondly it is a very frustrating event to be at the mercy of Nigerian embassies abroad... brother, they will show you hell, visa sef go taya you to collect in some cases... Nigerian embassies ke... Tchai!

This is where you get to see that unlike other countries, Nigeria requires a visa for "ALL" western passport holder's- US, UK, Canada, and EU countries all included.

In fact if not for Osibanjos intervention for business travelers to Nigeria, Nigeria's visa was ranked as one of the toughest visas to obtain in terms of the visa procedure difficuly- The inconsistency of Nigerian embassies also made matters worse.

Classickj:
hazard and pogba don't play in d same position

They don't but Hazard is versatile, he is a midfielder but can function as an AMF, RMF, LMF, LWF, RWF. in the formation Pogba was put in, he can play there equally.

Besides if we are talking about position, I would rate Gini Wijnaldum ahead of Pogba in that position, Pogba has been the definition of inconsistent this season.

It's something we know already...
Pogba doesn't Even deserve second squad of the premier league

What on Earth is Pogba doing on that list??
It's now I know that list is a silly make up...
Hazard left out for Pogba?
It doesn't even make any sense.

lepasharon:
So what counties are the other Africans claiming Nigeria from?

I was in a train once from Midi to Blankenberge, and this black guy close to my seat was caught on the train without a ticket by the conductor, of course a fine was about to be thrown at him, this fella just said he didn't know because he doesn't understand French and he's from Nigeria & he thought they paid for the ticket on the train... I looked at this individual closely and observed clearly he wasn't Nigerian, but wetin consign me... He wanted to stowaway on the train but he was caught. I am pretty sure that guy was from an east African country but 101% not Nigerian.

Now this is just an example, things like this occur most times and this is one of ways Nigeria gets popularly associated with wahala.