₦airaland Forum

wordychap:
Make una give south south deputy speaker na, haba

To SW it goes.

I don't know what stopped Mark from standing for election as the Senate President.

masseratti:
you see yourself is ekiti local government in kwara same thing as ilorin?
Ilorin is the capital of kwara state and senator Bukola Saraki comes from Ilorin not your LGA in Ilorin,abi is an Emir your traditional ruler too in Ekiti lga?

What's your point? Is it not the same Ilorin where I spent half my time so far?
What if he's from Kaiama? Does that change the fact that I know him more than you do? Is Agbaji, the supposed, Bukola's hometown in Ilorin West sounds fulani to you?
The fulanis in Ilorin know themselves.

Why APC in shambles? He contested and wön.

superstar1:
Overnight kwaran, the sarakis must have loved yoruba names and cultures so much that they dropped their fulani surname for ours and named their children our names.

If you are pained that they are yorubas, jump inside the lagoon.

No 2,3 and most likely 4 coming from us.

I am enjoying this.

Who is pained? Dogara won anyway.

masseratti:
where are you from in kwara,ni bo ni agbo ile yin?

I'm from Ekiti LGA. Say something else.

The contest for the seat of the Speaker, HoR, is very tight.
Who is having HBP?

masseratti:
well the Fulanis pick 1st names from places they are assimilating with,same with the emir of ilorin,he has a Yoruba name,places that they ruled from Sokoto to adamawa,nupe where you have fulani emirs they adobe the name of the the people of the place to make the people think they are one, they will marry from the people but they will never give out their daughters out for the people to marry.

Stop your lie man! I'm from Kwara and I can tell you that, the Sarakis claiming to be fulanis and moslems is all for politics.

Bukola and co might like to learn gate climbing and fence scaling from Tambulwa and friends. Believe me, they'll need these skills.

kennyamusan:
I laugh @ what you v just posted,but for the fact that I don't argur religious ehen,I would have taken u up on so many things.

This is not a laughing matter.
I have sufficient Scriptural backings for all my claims. The Churches I attend still believe in eternal hell fire and trinity anyway. You might want to point to some areas in the Scripture which support your belief which I'm ignorant of. It's not argument. We're all learning

trapQ:
You are wrong my dear. Eternal hell fire exists, rapture and trinity exists too.. But wait how are you a christian and don't believe in the trinity?

Please read my immediate post before this. The Scripture is clear on this.
I'll do a topic on them.

vacanci:
Can you please explain further. Is teaching about rapture, trinity, eternal hell fire and worshipping on Sundays false?

The rapture theory teaches that Jesus will suddenly rapture away the believers away before the end of the world and before the lost are gathered during which we will be great tribulation. But if you read Matt 13:24-30, it says the opposite. Jesus went further in Matt. 13:38-40 to explain Himself clearly. The rapture theory is dead against the above clear Bible truth. Rapture theory is dangerous because it makes people relax thinking they'll get another chance. Please read the above Bible texu and you'll realise that the lost will be gathered first and not the saved. When Jesus returns soon, every case for saved and lost will have already been decided. And there will be no second chance.

Moreover, our God of love isn't going to torture the lost with fire for the ceaseless ages to come just for a short life of sin, in a body that is prone to sin because of the fall of Adam and Eve. That teaching is an abomination.
John 3:16 says that God gave the world His only begotten Son and whosoever believes Him will not PERISH. We all know what perish means; to be COMPLETELY destroyed. Rev 19 and 20 described hell fire as the lake of fire. But that fire will burn them up and they will die the second death (Rev 21:. This agrees what God foretold in Ezekiel 18:20.
About sunday. Jesus said in Matt 5:17-18 that he didn't come to abolish the law but to fulfill it (to bring full meaning to the law) and that one jot shall in no wise pass from the law. What law? Read the rest of Matt 5 and you'll see that Jesus was talking about the ten commandment. So if one title has not passed from the ten commandment, then the 4th commandment concerning the Sabbath (saturday) as the day of worship remains exactly as it was, not sunday.

The trinity teaching stand upon the Athanasian creed (3 gods in one).
But there is no one mention of 3 beings in the Godhead in all the Old Testament and the Holy Spirit is called the Spirit of God. The New Testament tell us that all the disciples baptized in Jesus' name only. All of the apostles writings give praise to God the Father and Jesus Christ alone.
Read Revelation 21:22-23 ...'And I saw no temple therein: for the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND THE LAMB are the temple of it...' How many divine beings do you see in the Godhead above? Two! The whole Universe gives praise and honor only to the Father and the Lamb (Jesus) in Revelation 5:13. Any mention of the Holy Spirit refers to the Spirit of God, not a separate being.

vacanci:
What about the spirit of the dead Roaming about and hurting the living according to people.

For example, it is said that if one does not give his dead parents a befitting burial, the wrath will desend on the family and bad things could happen.

If dead remain dead, how come deliverance minister often refer to dead relatives as not happy with the living and so wrecking havoc.

The dead are in the grave resting, waiting for judgment. We have millions of demons impersonating the dead. Once a person dies, the breath in him returns to God who gave it and the body returns to dust from where it came till the judgement day.

kennyamusan:
trinity,hell are false teachings May God help u op Too much wisdom kills,hope u know that Am not moved by writings cos anyone can do that.as long as u don't believe in some salient things about christianity,u r on your on,same with what u have writing so far. I wonder with your rubbish where u will have the moral or spiritual justification against the muslims or atheist if we christians doesn't agree on things By the way,u r either JW,deeper life or the new generation churches Which one are you

Don't get me wrong, I never said there's no hell. What I said is, it's not eternal. Isn't wages of sin, death? Won't the soul that sins die? (Ezekiel 18:20). Which second death for grave, death itself and the lost is Revelation 20:14- talking about?
You have to understand that God will be making all things new in the New Jerusalem and things won't get new with grave, death and the lost souls burning for eternity.
And trinity? That teaching crept into christianity from somewhere else. I'll put things up on that some time. We have YHWH the Supreme Being. We have Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit (Spirit of God). These are not 3 separate God heads in One. We can't separate the Spirit of God from Him. Just because some people said so to appeal to pagans who have similar belief doesn't make it right. We're united in worshipping on sundays, while the Bible says it's 7th day Sabbath, but that will never make it right. We must not be united in errors. Bible should be our guide and since it is silent on trinity, then we should leave it that way.

I'm not a member of any of the Churches you mentioned.

Minet16:
you must understand that they are men of God and not spirit of God, so they are prone to make mistakes but that doesn't mean they aren't called by God... David killed a man and slept with his wife, but was the man after God's heart.


take this that work is physical
while fruits is spiritual


1 Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.



MINET16

I know men of God are mere mortals, but care must be taken when teaching. Teachings and doctrines should be in tandem with the word of God. Prosperity must not come first before seeking the kingdom of God

Obiwannn:
STOPPED TAKING U SERIOUSLY WHEN U MENTIONED RAPTURE, HELL FIRE as wrong teachings. interesting piece nontheless

Don't get me wrong. There's hell fire and those found wanton will be thrown in it and they'll die a second death(Rev 20:14-15). For God's sake, Ezekiel 18:20 makes us understand that the soul that sins will DIE. Our all merciful God won't burn you for eternity just for a short live of sin, in a body prone to sin.

Gold45:
otr1 what church do you attend?
Is it by any means related to the Voice of God and Prphet Branham?

No.
I attend Christ Apostolic Church. Sometimes, I worship at Living Faith or RCCG, depending on my location.

Youngzedd:
Have you registered for BVN?


If YES, forget heaven because you're now one of them

No, I haven't. It's not the mark on its own, but a tool in controlling people into accepting the mark. When the time comes, people will gladly accept the mark, because it's even widely accepted now. Not physical, but spiritual and it has to do with worship.

sixtus3606:
That's the point! I hope nairalanders are following this post?! Weldone bro!

To God be all the glory

Maximus85:
Yes, I am here again. Concerning the mark, the number 666. Revelation says it is a human number and only the wise would calculate it. What does that mean to you? The mark might not be a physical mark or number.

Sign 11. I object. Your first impression is very correct. But the second has nothing to do with the sign. Technology can best be used to further the preaching.

I'm not implying that Technology is bad. In fact, I acknowledge its role in spreading the gospel in Sign 12 (websites, Tv, Radio etc). The point I was trying to make there is that the knowledge of good and bad will increase.

sixtus3606:
This is where you made a mistake!
Bro...we are currently in the second coming!

The first coming was when he came to die for our sins!

Rather, we are in the phase of end time that will usher in the second coming. Jesus has not yet come the second time, but the events now are heralding his eminent return to be at hand.
We are at the final stage of the end time. The appearance of the Son of Man shall be in a cloud with power and glory (Luke 21:27) not in secret.

gbrown:
this is very strange to me, but is heaven real? Are you saying if we die in sin we just perish or disintegrate for ever? But man is made of body,soul and spirit, the spirit man cannot die cos GOD never created the spirit to die, if you say there is no hell fire then we will have a chaotic world, sin is pleasurable people will just indulge in sinful acts all through thier stay on earth and end uo in hell

The area of man was made of body, soul and spirit is another area we are getting it wrong.
In Genesis 2:7 that man was formed of the dust and breath into and became a living soul. At death, the breath returns to the Giver while man returns to dust(Genesis 3:19, Eccles 3:20, 9:5, 10, Psalm 103:14, 115:17).
When we die, we sleep (Matt 9:24) and we do not have an immortal soul floating around.
I didn't say there's no hell fire. There is, but it's not meant to burn people for eternity. It will punish and destroy sinners once and for all

hadura29:
Can u interpret dreams? Or can you refer me?

No Sir.

Minet16:
Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
many people look out for works of pastors which is very wrong... a pastor is not geniune because he perfoms miracles, rather by the things he exhibits which are fruits... note: by their fruits not by their works









while What you are saying is right, you should know that geniune men of God too can preach wrongly just because certain influences... so it isn't just by their teachings alone but by their fruits ye shall know them

MINET16

It's their teaching that will yield good fruit. If we're busy praying about money, people will get more interested in chasing after money and even compromise Godly standards while doing that. Seek ye first, the kingdom of God and other things will fall in line, not putting the cart before the horse.

flexrivers:
Otr1 is JW, though most of the write up is true but I don't trust their teaching either. How can one claim there is no Hell fire?

I'm not JW O
For the records, I am a C.A.C member. I also worship at Living Faith and RCCG depending on my location.
I've never stepped my feet in JW Kingdom hall and not going to do so. But don't misquote me, hell is real, but not eternal. The soul that sinneth shall die (Ezekiel 18:20) the second and final death (Rev. 20:14-15) not burn for eternity. Only the righteous will live forever.

sixtus3606:
Thank you. Now, after death...is judgement. Nothing like mass "judgment day" where the heavenly host will be rolling out names of righteous person(s) who are certified to be in paradise or heaven(as many believe)??

The dead will be judged after the Second coming of Jesus, but in the meantime, the dead remain dead.

Minet16:
Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


its for ever pls don't change God's word

Read from verse 7. The people that satan deceived will be devoured by fire that came down from God in verse 9. Check the meaning of the word "devour". The devil that deceived them will burn forever, not short-lived mortal men.

sixtus3606:
So what happens to man after death?! :-/

The Bible made us understand that the death are resting in the grave. But all shall come forth at the second coming of Jesus (Read John 5:29, Revelation 20:4-6). The dead will be judged and after judgement will be thrown in to the lake of to burn and die the second and final death (Rev 20:12-13, 15).

gbrown:
pls elucidate on this, is there no hell fire?

Hell is real, but not eternal as being preached.
The Bible says, the soul that sinneth shall die (Ezekiel 18:20).
The Bible talks about second death in Revelation 20:14-15. That is it. Death, hell (hades which means grave), and whosoever is not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire. They will perish forever, not burn eternally. That is the Bible truth.
Our God is not a tyrant that he will burn people for eternity just for a short life of sin, in a body prone to sin.

This is möronic to say the least.
You mean you'll tell PDP Lawmakers who to vote as Leaders in the chambers? Just go on, ode.

linkin8k:
David Mark might just win this.

He will lose if he contests

APC Leaders subtly employed zoning. I knew Saraki would never emerge since Gbaja emerged as the party candidate for the position of the Speaker, HoR.
Saraki lost this one already.