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discusant:
Alex Ekwueme with his Group of 33 formed PDP when OBJ was in prison.






Don’t be stupid with your saying that Alex Ekwueme contested against OBJ in PDP presidential primaries, because the northern military dictators and northern politicians had already granted the fastest prison pardon ever to Obasanjo to become PDP presidential candidate. Ekwueme contesting against OBJ was to complete formality when everyone already knew that OBJ would win PDP presidential primaries.

The same Northern power brokers have endorsed Sen Orji Kalu for President in 2023.

Some are even saying that his real father IBB.

Shikini:
Peter Obi is better

Peter Obi is interested in being Vice-President to Atiku.

fergie0o1:
SOURCE

This is good news, where has this man been all these while?

I remember that he;

Became a Senate President at 37years

Fought for long with his State Governor, Dr Sam Egwu. The supporters of Egwu conducted a mock funeral for Anyium around 2006 in Ebonyi State.
Although his Governor made sure that the man lost his exalted seat in 2007 ,he bounced back as Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) in 2011.

9japride:
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If I got your point you mean the west played politics of interest. Why can't other tribes in the south not play politics of interest in the next coming elections? A Yoruba man was the president in 1999, a Yoruba man was the VP in 2015 and a Yoruba man is still seeking for president in 2023. Guy check am nah? If the west really care for others, especially the Igbos they should support the Igbos in getting the presidency.

Let me illustrate it to you in simple ways;

The interest of the igbos was to support Atiku to be president (if Atiku had won in 2019, they won't be talking of Igbo president by now) so that after he serves his terms, Peter Obi will become president. This is a legitimate interest. However the plan didn't work out as expected.


The interest of the Yorubas was to support Buhari to finish his term so that a S/west candidate can support him. The plan worked, Buhari was re-elected but somehow, the other group whose plan failed are saying that the Yorubas should not reap the fruits of their labour.


Be sincere for once, if you are in their shoes, how will you feel sir?

ScamHunter:
You are a truthful person. This is Africa and we are tribal. Yet we all should know the meaning of fairness.

You are right to some extent. The interests of the common man may be limited to just having their tribal man as president.

However, the interest of an aspirant for Senate goes beyond that. It also includes making sure his party wins because this will boost his chances of becoming a senator (self interest).

9japride:
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If I got your point you mean the west played politics of interest. Why can't other tribes in the south not play politics of interest in the next coming elections? A Yoruba man was the president in 1999, a Yoruba man was the VP in 2015 and a Yoruba man is still seeking for president in 2023. Guy check am nah? If the west really care for others, especially the Igbos they should support the Igbos in getting the presidency.

The other tribes will and have been playing politics of interests.


Why do you think PDP won in Abia, Anambra, Delta and Rivers States?...The majority of the political players in these areas have their interests in the PDP.


In the North, different States voted for different parties and you won't see Northers lamenting that some parts of the North are greedy.

Political decisions are shaped by the interests of the key political elites in the areas.

PrinceOfLagos:
Nigeria needs a young leader and Kalu is pretty young




Tinubu is sick, old and very corrupt. he won't make a good president.

Buhari, Tinubu, El-Rufai are actually working to ensure Sen Orji Kalu emerge the APC candidate.

TMTR:
Tell me something I am missing, did this lady that you are always comparing yourself to steal your man because I don't get it ,why all these comparisms or is your self esteem at an all time low that you feel the need to compare to make yourself feel good

Well if you ask me to choose between the two of you, I would rather stick my dick in a blender

What if the blenders mistakenly slashed your dick, what will you now be using to fuccck?

kaymart:
I have no issue with him but at this day and age, he (tinubu) should step down Nd allow a more vibrant man mount the podium.
Nig can't afford another one person like Buhari in Tinubu.

Step down from what?


How do you tell a private citizen to step down?


What is the name of that more vibrant man and did he tell you that it is Tinubu that is preventing him from mounting any podium or teaching his destiny?

nairaman66:
Sure I totally understand! Rape stories are rare and not after you have surrounded your valuables, a thief would want to have carnal knowledge of you, while on the road and on the job.

Her story has too many red flags!



From the OP- Seems her phone wasn’t stolen nor her bag. Secondly, there was almost nobody in a Lagos street? Is this plausible?

She may be telling the truth (truth is relative)! Maybe she was forced into sex by the guy she was with that night! She couldn’t stand the shame and her heart must have been pricking her bad she had to tell some story to her boyfriend.. Etc

Thank you for this level of scrutiny.


I grew-up on Lagos Mainland and even as at the 1990s, it was difficult not to see people on a street around 9:30pm.

A fat man ordering her to go to a corner shop (what if he wanted to kill her in the shop in this days of ritual killings) and she cooperated easily? She didn't attempt to run away or shout for help? Her clothes weren't torn.

And the only part of her body with the 'stab wound' was the back of her hand?

Was the rapist alone or there were some other guys holding her down?



So many questions to be answered.

Penguin2:
How can you explain Obasanjo’s ability to throw money around in less than 5 months after his release from prison when Stella his wife had to sell kerosene to survive while he was in prison?

And hey, the G-18 and later G-35 were a political pressure group since the time of Abacha which was when Obasanjo was in prison. It was after General Abubakar gave a date for return to democracy that they registered as a political party.

Isn’t it obvious to you that Obasanjo was clearly a stranger to the fold?

What exactly is your bone of contention? Is it the source of the money Obasanjo spent or that he participated in a presidential primaries?

PrinceOfLagos:
Most of the people that make up the 14 million votes were mostly people from other region of soutu west living in Lagos ...

If everybody go back to there region, south west registered voters will be reduced to 3million

Okay, so in your views, 78.6% of the people in the S/west are non-indigenes?

ezegenigbonine:
Fat lie, u don't even know ur history. Afonja is the first warrior of Oyo (kakanfo) just as abiola and gani Adams. He betrayed the king of Oyo and recruit Fulani's into his soldiers

Go and play with your mates. This is not Jokes section

Dsalvo:
@OP.

Your question has a very easy answer.

Yorubas can be trusted with power. Igbos cannot be trusted with power.

It is as simple as that at the most rudimentary level of power sharing devoid of politically correct talk and diplomatic back and forth.

We can write politically correct garbage for 20 pages but the answer above is the bottom line. Watch the behavior of Igbo leaders and you will know they too appreciate this Nigerian reality.

Nooo, it's not about Igbo or Yoruba being trusted or not but about the change or advancement of democracy in Nigeria.

Certain things will be very difficult to repeat because;

1) The emergence of the APC: Before 2015, any political arrangements done by the PDP was as good as done and only needed to be validated by an election or resemblance of such. There was no real Challenger and Nigeria was more or less a one-party State.



2) Zoning comes with it's price. The prices include dissatisfied members decamping to a VIABLE alternative party. This was a minimal issue before 2015 because there were many but weak opposition parties.
Things aren't exactly the same now. Even the APC can be defeated.

Any political party that publicly announce in 2021 that it has zoned it's ticket to the S/East is telling other political bigwigs from other parts of Nigeria to stay away from the party and it's most likely to witness a gale of defections.

By saying 'south' at least half of the country will assume that they still have chance with the party until when the primaries is conducted.

Atiku, Saraki, Tambuwal and others that are spending money, time and energy to keep the PDP exciting aren't foolish. If the PDP say they have zoned their ticket to the S/East, do you think these people will still be in PDP or if still they are, they won't be this committed.

Penguin2:
I should ask you if you have cognitive abilities at all...

It was first G-18 and later on G-35. This group was to metamorphose and register as a political party (PDP) and Alex Ekwueme became its first ever chairman just as he was the chairman of the G-35 and Jerry Gana was secretary.

However, when positions were zoned and it was agreed that presidency should come south, Alex Ekwueme resigned his position and Solomon Lar became chairman.

In all these meetings, Obasanjo was nowhere as he was still in prison.

So how can you justify that he came from prison to become more popular than the founding chairman of PDP if he wasn’t powerfully backed?

Obasanjo was released in July,1998 before the formation of the PDP.


Obasanjo and several other aspirants contested for the primaries.

In all elections, money and lobby are used by power brokers to swing the pendulum of victory to their side. Even in your home State, the principle is applied in chosing the flag bearers.

Bendeco02:
I noticed that 95% of Yoruba leaders and their people on this forum shouting southern presidency for 2023 are only interested in Yoruba president nothing more.... They hate hearing any other name outside there region.


The same people shouting southern unity are the ones working by any means to bring Peter Obi down... Every other southerners here should be aware of their trick and support their own leaders too.

You don't understand this game.

People are projecting their candidates and those who are pasting the posters are doing so
for the benefits they stand to gain if these candidates win. It is not really about pulling down Peter Obi who is not in their party or even running.

Politicians who are spendings money to print the posters of their candidates are not doing it to pull down anybody but put up themselves.

Start pasting the posters of your candidates.

gabbasin:
Igbos believe their route to the presidency is another eight years of hausa/fuLani presidency with an igbo man as vice through PDP, in that 8 years the grievances of ndigbo would have been assuaged and they will be back in national politics and all the current hatred towards the north would have disappeared and so by 2031, Nigeria would have been ready for an igbo presidency.

So the people they claim hate them would have developed love for them?

27Pushing30:
Have you not seen the handwriting on the wall?

Niger delta rejected the first Biafra

Niger delta has rejected the renewed call for Biafra

This means that “Biafra” would be a landlocked country.

This means that no matter what you guys would be dependent on “Nigeria”

Igbos do not want Biafra or nothing , they want Biafra and Nigeria lol (y’all want 2 countries) -like the Irish

Good luck

We can actually reach a compromise by having both Biafra and Nigeria existing side by side within the same country. E.g give Biafra rights to run their own elections, rule themselves, generate their own revenues. However they can depend on Nigeria for international and diplomatic relations, International Defence and International border control.

tutudesz:
No party will zone their ticket to a particular zone, the highest they can do is zone it between North or South. South East should fight for the ticket, by seeking the support of South West and South South.

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Any party that publicly announce that it is zoning it's ticket to one Geo-political zone out of the six has defeated itself before the election because it will be alienating itself from other Nigerians.

You need as many people as possible in the party to win.

Cc: MrVitalis
BKayy

uncleck:
The only Igbo man that has the political intelligence to win 2023 presidential election is OUK. But I don't see Buhari allowing that

Who is OUK?




Nothing concerns Buhari in PDP convention.

Indispensable85:
The PDP governors will destroy the party if they field a northerner.
They'll get the defeat of their lives. I don't know why some kids here think the whole of the north will vote a party because it's candidate is from the north. I dey laff....

Many of them think that the so-called 'North' is one homogeneous region where everybody is a Fulani.

The first people that will kick against a Fulani succeeding Buhari will be the people of Southern Kaduna, Benue, Plateau, Taraba and the numerous Northern minorities.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
The same way some people in the South betrayed Jonathan in 2015 is the same way some region in the south will betray Osibanjo.Its foolhardy to believe that buhari support alone would win, same buhari that lost elections 3 times

You don't win or lose a presidential election because of just only one factor but multiplicity of factors, the greatest being the political party, availability of fund (don't be deceived sir. Electoral contests cost fortune), sentiments like religion & tribe and Incumbency factors.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Till then, we would know if North will leave their Son Tambuwal or Atiku and vote for Osibanjo.

In an election, multiple interests comes to play but the ultimate interest is SELF-INTEREST.


The self interest for Mr-A may not necessarily be the Self-interest for Mr-B.

It's plain naive to assume that every voter in the 'North' regards Tambuwal as his son and that voting for 'our son' is the only interest of every voter.


The interest of some people is to vote for

1) someone who practice their religion or comes from their Region

2) Someone who is in their party where they can get certain benefits

3) A candidate that is opposing the candidate they hate.

4) A candidate that is not Fulanis

5) A candidate that is well educated

6) A party that distribute money

7) Too many numerous interests.

Truthvalue4:
Right here:



It is quite obvious what you are saying.

What is obvious? A pure conscience fears no accussations.

Eriokanmi:
North West had produced president twice now but north central and north east had not , same with south east . If they pick tambuwal and wike, they'd give the apc an automatic win.

In my opinion, Saraki..yes...saraki and Obi would make a sensible pick. Call him all manners of names but its all political. Saraki is a potential candidate. People of kwara now can spot the difference after they revolted against saraki and all the unfounded lies they peddled against him.

I also feel Saraki is good enough to be president.

However, with the ways the political structure of Nigeria is delicately balanced, Saraki who neither North nor South will find it difficult to get block votes from the voting blocks needed to win.

Truthvalue4:
So basically, you hate the truth ? And you also hate Igbo, cool.
I don't know why you keep telling me about your hatred of Igbo, try discussing that with a psychiatrist or an Igbo person.

You are the one who needs to see a Psychiatrist sir.

Where did I mention hatred or Igbo in my post?

Truthvalue4:
1)It is Oba of Benin.
2)you confuse truth with "negativity"
3)try sticking to truth instead of lies

Which truths? And you don't express such 'truths' towards your ethnic groups but you are only speaking sure 'truths' whenever other Nigerians are concerned?


People that think like you executed a very biased coup on Jan-15,1966 which started a cascade of reactions leading to the civil war with reverberating consequences till today.

0balufonlll:
THe Oyo referred to in this oriki is the Ago di Oyo, not the empire. This current one is not the same as the empire. It was founded by one prince, hence, Oyo Atiba.

Ago-Oja was the hometown of the mother of Prince Atiba, one of the great-grandsons of Alaafin Abiodun ( his other well known descendants were Oluyole in Ibadan and Afonja in Ilorin).

It was Atiba that moved the Capital down south to his mother's home town (Ago-Oja) and renamed it the new Oyo.

ezegenigbonine:
Afonja abi, as he cowardly allow Fulani to take over illorin

Although I am not into this your childish inter-tribal banters.

However for the education of younger generation, we need to correctly State historical facts;

Afonja was an Oyo Prince, Generalissimo of the Oyo Empire and later Governor of Ilorin Pronvince.

The Fulanis Rose to power in Ilorin in 1830, about 20 years after the death of Afonja.

BKayy:
The picture is from early 20th century (after Amalgamation).
By then, Igbo businessmen have started developing estates in Lagos.

By the way, I never knew we would get to a level when Yorubas will start celebrating what the white men built as theirs.

Lol. These people are more Shameless than I thought.

Whenever anything great is being discussed about other parts of Nigeria or Nigerian leaders from other parts of this country (e.g Ahmadu Bello, Awolowo, Gowon, Danjuma, Oba of Bini, Oba of Lagos, Alaafin of Oyo, MKO Abiola, Saro-Wiwa, Isaac Adaka Boro, Murtalar Muhammed, Benjamin Adekunle and now recently, Tinubu or Buhari), you people come with your toxic negativity, trying to downplay the greatness of others.


Why bringing Igbo into this matter?

RuggedBiafran:
So telling you what is obtainable is hating Yoruba...

That is why you live in "limbo" and always look for whom to blame for your failures in life.

I said that Gumi's protégé's election in PDP shows a shift from the "mindset" that the North is stuck on APC..as a Political option...

I CAN BET MY BALLZ...that Tinubu will loose elections even in the SW...IF HE IS MADE THE APC CANDIDATE ( THAT WONT EVEN HAPPEN)........so stop thinking you guyz are relevant ...the battle is between the Northerners...GET SENSE Abeg!!

With the ways you carry Tinubu's matter on your head like Brazilian hairs, you are likely to develop hypertension by 2022 and stroke by 2023.




The topic is about the PDP newly elected youth leaders and Sheik Gumi, how manage did you bring Tinubu into this matter?



If Tinubu contests and election, whether he wins or loses is Tinubu's headache, so why are using Panadol for Tinubu's headache?

It's better that you start projecting your preferred candidate instead of shouting Tinubu this, Tinubu that.

PrinceOfLagos:
Which south west

Apart from Lagos that is heavily populated with people from other parts of Nigeria , which other south west state is heavily populated ?

Registered voters;

NW= 18 Million
SW= 14 Million.
NE=11 Million
SE= 8 Million