₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
Igbo language is very hard to learn, thats why there are few non Igbos who can speak Igbo

So how is it that a Yoruba man like Ajayi-Crowther, could write an Igbo book? Something is not right somewhere

The early Missionaries made conscious and delibrate efforts to learn the language of the areas they wanted to evangelize.
Some even go to sit at the market from morning till night listening attentively to how traders speak and negotiate their trade bargains.

bomb24:
the Yorubas were the first Nigerians to migrate to the gold coast ( ghana) not the Hausas. the Hausas barely migrate to other West African Nations. so the reference was on the yorubas.

You are not well learned.

1) 1957 wasn't early 20th century.

2) Hausa have migrated to Ghana centuries before both Nigeria and Ghana were created by the British such that today, Hausa is now one of the indigenous peoples of Ghana.

3) Due to large scale migration of the Hausa people, Hausa language is spoken virtually in all countries in West Africa.

AchalugoNwa:
all I see are pedophiles and potential pedophiles supporting their idol Baba ijesha

What's this woman's crime?
that she exposed that useless big mouth pedophile called baba ijesha?


I pray your underage daughter will be molested by a randy pedophile and there's nothing you can do about it.

even the ones that sapa don damage their account dey talk too.
the ones that cannot even have a reasonable data subscription dey think of 10k ticket.
even those living in oshogbo slum dey yarn too

I don't know why most Yorubas especially Tinubu urchins are too clanish and find it comfortable to support evil especially if the evil doer is their idol.
from Tinubu, Osibanjo down to this known pedophile.

Tueh!

Pls what is the connection bwtween this show, Baba Ijesha, Tinubu and Osinbajo? Is the show an APC program or related in one way or the other to 2023?

Penguin2:
Wow!

Let’s keep fingers crossed!

And I’m surprised you didn’t insult me today

But i don't insult people

Validated:
You may have a point there, however put it correctly. In that Buhari was watching when Tinubu used Oshomole to plank Amosun. You know why, Buhari had all to lose in 2019, so was willing to allow anything. That said, 2023 belongs to the Igbos. Others are just mere noise makers.
By the way, where is Oshomole after planking Amosun?

Actually, it wasn't about planking Amosun but about keeping with the unwritten rule of power sharing in Ogun State in order to help the APC to win again.

Penguin2:
Buhari picked an Igbo man as Vice Presidential candidate twice.

So get out with your conspiracy.

I don’t know anything for sure but I do know that Ohbonnaya Onu is one Igbo man Buhari can trust with power.

The man has been consistently in opposition since 1999 just like Buhari. It shows principle. And not all these political jobbers!

Ogbonnaya Onu might just be the joker in 2023!

Yes, you are right ,Dr Ogbonaya Onu is the APC flag bearer for 2023. A promineng prophet in Lagos made similar prophecy about 3 weeks.

Validated:
Atleast better than bullion vans showmanship.

Dr Ogbonnaya Onu will win the APC presidential primaries hands down most especially now that the APC is rooting for mem of integrity to lead them into 2023.

Chibuike21:
How can anyone consider Obi Cubana as honourable without knowing the source of his wealth?

Friends of Obi Cubana will think he is a good and honourable man. If you are close to him, you won't be saying this.

9japride:
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I get your point. My main issue is that Yoruba shouldn't be thinking of presidency at all. Since they got it in 1999. Let others taste the seat of President? Then after Igbos, then can then leave it open for all. But my fears is that Nigeria as a whole is not yet matured for all inclusive kind of governance. It's really a pity.

By the way, suppose no Yoruba politician is contesting, do you honestly think that this will automatically place an igbo man in Aso-Rock?

If anything, it will just give Atiku or Tambuwal
unchallenged access to power

9japride:
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I get your point. My main issue is that Yoruba shouldn't be thinking of presidency at all. Since they got it in 1999. Let others taste the seat of President? Then after Igbos, then can then leave it open for all. But my fears is that Nigeria as a whole is not yet matured for all inclusive kind of governance. It's really a pity.

Yoruba is NOT a person.

How do you force millions of people to tow a particular way of thought sir? How do you tell millions of people to agree to a particular party policy?




The most appropriate body to enforce zoning is the political parties. Even at this, the power is more of persuasion and concesus rather than legalistic because some aggrieved party members will still disregard the zoning decision claiminig that it infringe on their democractic rights e.g Abubakar Rimi (2003 PDP primaries) and Goodluck Jonathan (2015 PDP sole candidacy).


The PDP which morally ought to support the quest of the Igbos for the presidency is maintenaining a deafening silence on the matter.

Bayyajidda:
How about the greedy jobless ones that send their whole time on Social media seeking old failed politicians to offer them peanuts to sing their praises?

Why not leave them to live their lives the ways they deem fit while you concentrate on living yours?

Bayyajidda:
See this hungry one, always ready to sell his destiny for some few coins. Continue selling your destiny, I won't be the one with you and hungry. Enjoy your shithole alone.

But you seem personally involved.

You can't be this embittered if he is the only one in what you referred to as 'shit hole'

discusant:
Alex Ekwueme with his Group of 33 formed PDP when OBJ was in prison.






Don’t be stupid with your saying that Alex Ekwueme contested against OBJ in PDP presidential primaries, because the northern military dictators and northern politicians had already granted the fastest prison pardon ever to Obasanjo to become PDP presidential candidate. Ekwueme contesting against OBJ was to complete formality when everyone already knew that OBJ would win PDP presidential primaries.

The same Northern power brokers have endorsed Sen Orji Kalu for President in 2023.

Some are even saying that his real father IBB.

Shikini:
Peter Obi is better

Peter Obi is interested in being Vice-President to Atiku.

fergie0o1:
SOURCE

This is good news, where has this man been all these while?

I remember that he;

Became a Senate President at 37years

Fought for long with his State Governor, Dr Sam Egwu. The supporters of Egwu conducted a mock funeral for Anyium around 2006 in Ebonyi State.
Although his Governor made sure that the man lost his exalted seat in 2007 ,he bounced back as Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF) in 2011.

9japride:
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If I got your point you mean the west played politics of interest. Why can't other tribes in the south not play politics of interest in the next coming elections? A Yoruba man was the president in 1999, a Yoruba man was the VP in 2015 and a Yoruba man is still seeking for president in 2023. Guy check am nah? If the west really care for others, especially the Igbos they should support the Igbos in getting the presidency.

Let me illustrate it to you in simple ways;

The interest of the igbos was to support Atiku to be president (if Atiku had won in 2019, they won't be talking of Igbo president by now) so that after he serves his terms, Peter Obi will become president. This is a legitimate interest. However the plan didn't work out as expected.


The interest of the Yorubas was to support Buhari to finish his term so that a S/west candidate can support him. The plan worked, Buhari was re-elected but somehow, the other group whose plan failed are saying that the Yorubas should not reap the fruits of their labour.


Be sincere for once, if you are in their shoes, how will you feel sir?

ScamHunter:
You are a truthful person. This is Africa and we are tribal. Yet we all should know the meaning of fairness.

You are right to some extent. The interests of the common man may be limited to just having their tribal man as president.

However, the interest of an aspirant for Senate goes beyond that. It also includes making sure his party wins because this will boost his chances of becoming a senator (self interest).

9japride:
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If I got your point you mean the west played politics of interest. Why can't other tribes in the south not play politics of interest in the next coming elections? A Yoruba man was the president in 1999, a Yoruba man was the VP in 2015 and a Yoruba man is still seeking for president in 2023. Guy check am nah? If the west really care for others, especially the Igbos they should support the Igbos in getting the presidency.

The other tribes will and have been playing politics of interests.


Why do you think PDP won in Abia, Anambra, Delta and Rivers States?...The majority of the political players in these areas have their interests in the PDP.


In the North, different States voted for different parties and you won't see Northers lamenting that some parts of the North are greedy.

Political decisions are shaped by the interests of the key political elites in the areas.

PrinceOfLagos:
Nigeria needs a young leader and Kalu is pretty young




Tinubu is sick, old and very corrupt. he won't make a good president.

Buhari, Tinubu, El-Rufai are actually working to ensure Sen Orji Kalu emerge the APC candidate.

TMTR:
Tell me something I am missing, did this lady that you are always comparing yourself to steal your man because I don't get it ,why all these comparisms or is your self esteem at an all time low that you feel the need to compare to make yourself feel good

Well if you ask me to choose between the two of you, I would rather stick my dick in a blender

What if the blenders mistakenly slashed your dick, what will you now be using to fuccck?

kaymart:
I have no issue with him but at this day and age, he (tinubu) should step down Nd allow a more vibrant man mount the podium.
Nig can't afford another one person like Buhari in Tinubu.

Step down from what?


How do you tell a private citizen to step down?


What is the name of that more vibrant man and did he tell you that it is Tinubu that is preventing him from mounting any podium or teaching his destiny?

nairaman66:
Sure I totally understand! Rape stories are rare and not after you have surrounded your valuables, a thief would want to have carnal knowledge of you, while on the road and on the job.

Her story has too many red flags!



From the OP- Seems her phone wasn’t stolen nor her bag. Secondly, there was almost nobody in a Lagos street? Is this plausible?

She may be telling the truth (truth is relative)! Maybe she was forced into sex by the guy she was with that night! She couldn’t stand the shame and her heart must have been pricking her bad she had to tell some story to her boyfriend.. Etc

Thank you for this level of scrutiny.


I grew-up on Lagos Mainland and even as at the 1990s, it was difficult not to see people on a street around 9:30pm.

A fat man ordering her to go to a corner shop (what if he wanted to kill her in the shop in this days of ritual killings) and she cooperated easily? She didn't attempt to run away or shout for help? Her clothes weren't torn.

And the only part of her body with the 'stab wound' was the back of her hand?

Was the rapist alone or there were some other guys holding her down?



So many questions to be answered.

Penguin2:
How can you explain Obasanjo’s ability to throw money around in less than 5 months after his release from prison when Stella his wife had to sell kerosene to survive while he was in prison?

And hey, the G-18 and later G-35 were a political pressure group since the time of Abacha which was when Obasanjo was in prison. It was after General Abubakar gave a date for return to democracy that they registered as a political party.

Isn’t it obvious to you that Obasanjo was clearly a stranger to the fold?

What exactly is your bone of contention? Is it the source of the money Obasanjo spent or that he participated in a presidential primaries?

PrinceOfLagos:
Most of the people that make up the 14 million votes were mostly people from other region of soutu west living in Lagos ...

If everybody go back to there region, south west registered voters will be reduced to 3million

Okay, so in your views, 78.6% of the people in the S/west are non-indigenes?

ezegenigbonine:
Fat lie, u don't even know ur history. Afonja is the first warrior of Oyo (kakanfo) just as abiola and gani Adams. He betrayed the king of Oyo and recruit Fulani's into his soldiers

Go and play with your mates. This is not Jokes section

Dsalvo:
@OP.

Your question has a very easy answer.

Yorubas can be trusted with power. Igbos cannot be trusted with power.

It is as simple as that at the most rudimentary level of power sharing devoid of politically correct talk and diplomatic back and forth.

We can write politically correct garbage for 20 pages but the answer above is the bottom line. Watch the behavior of Igbo leaders and you will know they too appreciate this Nigerian reality.

Nooo, it's not about Igbo or Yoruba being trusted or not but about the change or advancement of democracy in Nigeria.

Certain things will be very difficult to repeat because;

1) The emergence of the APC: Before 2015, any political arrangements done by the PDP was as good as done and only needed to be validated by an election or resemblance of such. There was no real Challenger and Nigeria was more or less a one-party State.



2) Zoning comes with it's price. The prices include dissatisfied members decamping to a VIABLE alternative party. This was a minimal issue before 2015 because there were many but weak opposition parties.
Things aren't exactly the same now. Even the APC can be defeated.

Any political party that publicly announce in 2021 that it has zoned it's ticket to the S/East is telling other political bigwigs from other parts of Nigeria to stay away from the party and it's most likely to witness a gale of defections.

By saying 'south' at least half of the country will assume that they still have chance with the party until when the primaries is conducted.

Atiku, Saraki, Tambuwal and others that are spending money, time and energy to keep the PDP exciting aren't foolish. If the PDP say they have zoned their ticket to the S/East, do you think these people will still be in PDP or if still they are, they won't be this committed.

Penguin2:
I should ask you if you have cognitive abilities at all...

It was first G-18 and later on G-35. This group was to metamorphose and register as a political party (PDP) and Alex Ekwueme became its first ever chairman just as he was the chairman of the G-35 and Jerry Gana was secretary.

However, when positions were zoned and it was agreed that presidency should come south, Alex Ekwueme resigned his position and Solomon Lar became chairman.

In all these meetings, Obasanjo was nowhere as he was still in prison.

So how can you justify that he came from prison to become more popular than the founding chairman of PDP if he wasn’t powerfully backed?

Obasanjo was released in July,1998 before the formation of the PDP.


Obasanjo and several other aspirants contested for the primaries.

In all elections, money and lobby are used by power brokers to swing the pendulum of victory to their side. Even in your home State, the principle is applied in chosing the flag bearers.

Bendeco02:
I noticed that 95% of Yoruba leaders and their people on this forum shouting southern presidency for 2023 are only interested in Yoruba president nothing more.... They hate hearing any other name outside there region.


The same people shouting southern unity are the ones working by any means to bring Peter Obi down... Every other southerners here should be aware of their trick and support their own leaders too.

You don't understand this game.

People are projecting their candidates and those who are pasting the posters are doing so
for the benefits they stand to gain if these candidates win. It is not really about pulling down Peter Obi who is not in their party or even running.

Politicians who are spendings money to print the posters of their candidates are not doing it to pull down anybody but put up themselves.

Start pasting the posters of your candidates.

gabbasin:
Igbos believe their route to the presidency is another eight years of hausa/fuLani presidency with an igbo man as vice through PDP, in that 8 years the grievances of ndigbo would have been assuaged and they will be back in national politics and all the current hatred towards the north would have disappeared and so by 2031, Nigeria would have been ready for an igbo presidency.

So the people they claim hate them would have developed love for them?

27Pushing30:
Have you not seen the handwriting on the wall?

Niger delta rejected the first Biafra

Niger delta has rejected the renewed call for Biafra

This means that “Biafra” would be a landlocked country.

This means that no matter what you guys would be dependent on “Nigeria”

Igbos do not want Biafra or nothing , they want Biafra and Nigeria lol (y’all want 2 countries) -like the Irish

Good luck

We can actually reach a compromise by having both Biafra and Nigeria existing side by side within the same country. E.g give Biafra rights to run their own elections, rule themselves, generate their own revenues. However they can depend on Nigeria for international and diplomatic relations, International Defence and International border control.

tutudesz:
No party will zone their ticket to a particular zone, the highest they can do is zone it between North or South. South East should fight for the ticket, by seeking the support of South West and South South.

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Any party that publicly announce that it is zoning it's ticket to one Geo-political zone out of the six has defeated itself before the election because it will be alienating itself from other Nigerians.

You need as many people as possible in the party to win.

Cc: MrVitalis
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