₦airaland Forum

SouthMustBeFree:
Sane people are speaking up, while the urchins are cheering him up. Unfortunately, many of this online nuiscance who are shouting Tinubu 2023 were little children back in 1999 when he reigned as governor of Lagos yet they shout Tinubu blindly simply because he is a Yoruba man not because he is capable. Forget all the manipulative and deceptive tendencies of Tinubu that he is a technocrat and can harvest young minds to do great job how many have done anything great?

Same Tinubu that vowed Fashola will not do 8 years because he felt the man wasn't towing his path of corruption. He abruptly ended the tenure of Ambode for same reason only God knows the fate of this one there now. Las las we are here to see how it will play out come 2023.

By now, you people demonizing Tinubu ought to have come up with your candidate whose morality is at par with that of Angel Gabriel and has the magic wand to solve all the problems in this country.


Campaigning against Tinubu will not necessarily leads to the emergence of a good leader. It's the campaign for the right leader that will

Superboss:
"The Agberos system of government in Lagos State will be the type of government Tinubu will operate if given the opportunity to lead the country. It will be a system where hoodlums will be empowered with arms to mob opposition members and critics as they always do during and even after elections.".............
He had said it all.
They never see anything. Under Tinubu, hyperinflation will be an understated word.
He who has ears, let him listen.

How many millions of Nigerian voters believe in what you just said?

iKingsley:
It beats my imagination how a reasonable person will even think of voting Tinubu as the next President of Nigeria after all that has happened.

Tinubu is not fit to be the next leader of Nigeria

Most people that hold this kinds of opinions apparently have good ideas of how Nigeria should be. However wishful thinking are different from realities.


Tinubu, like all other citizens have the right to aspire to be president and they are actively exercising this right BECAUSE THEY ARE ACTIVE IN THE POLITICS OF THEIR COUNTRIES.

Idealists and arm-chairs critics are often not members of any political parties, they don't attend meetings and/or rallies of these parties let alone Congress or primaries of any political parties but somehow still believe that they can dictate for those actively participate in party politics on who they should chose as their parties' flag bearers.

It's very difficult to effect changes from outside the corridors of powers by writing against a particular aspirant.

bigpicture001:
Guy, u are much informed that those who just prefer criticism and insult .. they no next to nothing on these matter.. just action with emotions...

Now u pointed out some good fact..

1. U made them know Lagos State revenue allocation was not seized. It's rather Lagos State local government revenue that was seized..

2. U made them understand that Tinubu didn't initially create the LCDA instead it was LGA..

3. But u still disagree on whom the money was disburse to

Obasanjo (he and Murtalar organized the 1976 Local Gov'ts Reform which recommended a single type of Local Gov'ts for the whole country and that this should be put into the constition) pointed out that if States are allowed to create LGAs, each State will want to create as many as they can because Local Gov'ts are now used to distribute revenues and sharing of the national cake.

In true Federalism, Local Gov'ts are agents of the State Gov't to bring development close to their people.

Kano and Jigawa States were one State in 1979-1983 and Lagos State was also one State.

Today, Lagos still remain one State with 20 LGAs while Kano (after Jigawa was carved out of it in 1991) now have 44 LGAs.

Each State shout create as many LGAs as they want but should be responsible for funding them. LGAs should be removed from the constition and not be used as basis for sharing revenues.

bigpicture001:
Bros.. use ur laptop is not for film alone... There is a big difference between a state government which tinubu heads and a local government which someone else heads during tinubu time in office...

Tinubu is not meant to use the local government allocation, it's not his. He is sent his own separate state allocation.. which was never seized... But he swop on gullible people like u who are fanatics to cry foul that he didn't do any infrastructure because FG seized his allocation.

By the way.. do u know tinubu Fought the FG bribing judges that sat in Lagos courts and made them rule that local government election must be conducted by state government electoral body which he also fight to get...

20year down the lane..has it improved anything politically aside allowing governor bully local government chiarman and stealing all their money...

Tinubu is an orchestrator of corrupt practices... He is so good at it that you guyz mistake it for heroim...

Your third shows that you have a superficial understanding of the subject matter.

The courts, up to the Supreme Court simply validated the stand of Lagos State that the CONSTITUTION vest the creation and control of Local Gov'ts, including the conduct of elections into the Local Gov'ts in the States.

It's a constitutional matter and not just the schemes of Tinubu.


In the Independence constitution and through out the First Republic , Local Gov'ts were never written in the constition and were not basis for sharing centrally collected revenues. Back then, each Region created the numbers of Local Gov'ts they deemed fit , conducted elections into them and funded them. In some Local Gov'ts, certain Traditional Rulers were made the Chairman of the councils were some had elected chairmen e.g Agege Local Council, Lagos Town Council

In 1976, the Murtalar Muhammed /Obasanjo Military Regime centralized local Gov'ts in Nigeria and incorporated them into the constition and also make them the third tier of Governments to be used as basis for sharing revenues, awarding constituencies etc.

NairaMaster1:
My brother, we are not ready to change this country for better. One fire is burning us and we are preparing the one that will consume us.

We are ready to change only on social media.

You see, nobody gives you power or leave the corridors of power for the opponents.


Majority of the people that are opposed to Tinubu and people like him need to leave the social media and join political parties with all seriousness.

It's very difficult to effect meaning changes from outside the system.

obynzo:
What defines a progressive? You guys don't know what progressive means in the true sense of the word. Lagos should have been competing with the likes of Johannesburg, Casablanca and Caira but alas and sadly it cannot even compete with Monrovia that just came out from War or even Accra or Lome in terms of Infrastructure and liveable city indices. All because of one man's stranglehold on the state's treasury. And here you are echoing progressive............... SMH that is why we will forever remain under the bondage of these leaders, see how you are openly marketing a thief.

You may not like Tinubu but the assumption that he is the reason why Lagos is not able to compete with all the cities you mentioned are nothing but a fallacy.

Anyone who understands the structural and economic architecture of Lagos in particular and Nigeria in general will know that Lagos can't develop more than certain levels if the rest of Nigeria aren't also developing.

If 50% of the people in Lagos leave to other States, Lagos will amazingly look far better than what it is.


Most of the greatest opponents of Tinubu are only active online and they like to approach political matters from emotional points of views.


To defeat Tinubu and other people like him, more educated and enlightened youths need to join political parties (I am not talking of forming a youth party that is only active on social media).

Recently I tried to join politics but I was surprised by my findings...over 80% of the members of the APC, PDP and other parties are made up of employed and barely educated youths, market women, artisans, thugs, Okada riders and people who don't buy or read newspapers or listen to News on Channels, AIT, Arise or TVCs.

bigpicture001:
You are just pained by the truth... Anyways, your life, your decision

To be sincere, the guy is correct.


Most of the avid opponents of Tinubu are only active online and they can't influence the outcomes of elections in their streets even without rigging.


If most of you guys can register with and regularly attend meetings of a political party, then come together as a mass movement , you can effect the desired changes you want by supporting a vibrant youth for the presidency.

Most of the well educated and enlightened youths of this country don't participate in the political processess of recruiting leaders for their communities, States and country at large.

tnerro1:
The north go hear am when south comes to power in 2023. I can see a joint effort of southern politicians in both APC and PDP to make sure power comes to the south. The first thing the southern president will do is to appoint a southerner as police IG and ARMY chief and also AGF will go to the south. After that state police and restructuring will start. The north go hear word by force .

A southern president and a southern AGF will support the collection of VATs by States and implement the anti open grazing law of southern states.

The north go hear word by force in 2023

I hope you know that all these policies will also favour the North?

PrinceOfLagos:
Everybody dey cash out from Tinubu

I pity the man , Dem go chop him money finish clean mouth and vote for another candidate

What is the name of that other candidate sir?

kettykin:
Some other people have paid bigger prices than Tinubu and ought to be recognized. Tinubu has Lagos treasury for sponsorship of NADECO

These other people are recognized but I doubt if they are in the race for the 2023 presidency.

kettykin:
That someone financed NADECO is no reason to hand over the Nigerian presidency to such a fellow
While Tinubu was on a self imposed exile there were group 34 eminent politicians who did not brun away but stoood their ground to request Abacha to hand over to a democratic government. Non of them got rewarded with even a governorship position.

Tinubu has already been rewarded with Lagos state governorship post for 8 years and Lagos state treasury for his life time, is this not enough reward already

Nobody is being rewarded or will be rewarded for anything.

The election will be keenly contested.

I will also like to contest for the same election, if I have enough money and the youth of this country can support me.

bigpicture001:
Why did tinubu rescind on his affirmative stands of creating more local government in Lagos just four months to exit office..

He was there after paid more than 160billion naira meant for local government and he concerned it all...

He also still sued the FG to force FG to release the may allocation of his last month in office to him instead of fashola...

See, it's not about politics, it's about the man himself.. he is too corrupt and dubious

This wasn't what happened.

1) Around 2002, Lagos, Ogun, Oyo, Yobe and some other States created Local Gov'ts as specified in constitution.

2) The last part of the constitutional lay down process require the State to forward the newly created LGAs to the National Assembly so that the NA can add them to the list of the LGAs in the fifth schedule of the Constitution.
Lagos State compiled by submitting the names for listening to the N.A but the N.A refused to act on it.

3) Meanwhile, Obasanjo and the PDP were strongly opposed to the creation of more LGAs. Obasanjo ,who regarded himself far superior to other political actors at the time (and truly he was) didn't like to be questioned on matters of Gov't policies, so he mounted pressure on the States to scrapped their newly created LGAs stating that the matter can causes unnecessary rivalries among States and will heat up the polity. Other States succumbed to Obasanjo's pressure except Lagos.

4) Then Obasanjo directed that the Local Gov't Fund for Lagos be stopped. The LASG under Tinubu took the matter to court which dragged on for years.
5) Around early 2007, the Supreme Court ruled that

a) the LGAs created by Lagos weren't actually illegal but the process of creating them were in complete ,so they can exist while awaiting their listing by the N.A
b) that Obasanjo had no power to seize council funds meant for Lagos and the accumulated fund should be released to the State.

6) Obasanjo said he accepted the court ruling but he still refused to release the fund, giving the excuse that the original councils have been dissolved and he didn't know who to release the fund to.

7) Eminent Legal scholars led by Prince Bola Ajibola intervened by proposing a compromise in which the newly created councils will become Local Council Development Areas (LCDAs) under the old councils which should revert back to their Identities.

President Yar'Adua came to power on May, 29, 2007 and promised to accept and implement the court ruling, so he directed that the money be released (in tranches) to Lagos and this was done between July,2007-2008 long after Tinubu has left office.

gidgiddy:
Its not news that the FG brought an ammended seven count charge against IPOB leader, Nnamdi Kanu. However, it turns out that one of the charges is not even a crime. The charge reads:

That you Nnamdi Kanu, male, adult, of Afaraukwu Ibeku, Umuahia North Local Government Area of Abia Stale on the 16th of May, 2021, in London, United Kingdom within the jurisdiction of this Honourable Court did commit an act in furtherance of an act of terrorism by making a broadcast that “In 2 weeks’ time, what will happen will shake the world, people will die, the whole world will stand still, mark my word” and you thereby committed an offence contrary to and punishable under Section 1 (2) (b) of the Terrorism Prevention Amendment Act, 2013.

That Nnamdi Kanu said that in two weeks time, people will die? People die every day. How can it be a crime to say that people will die in the future? It is a statement of fact.

How is this charge a crime?

The court will have to decide if it's a crime or not.

Veryfoolishboy:
Omo just like that 3 bread winner of 3 families are gone
If you are among those hailing Nnamdi Kanu and his foot soldiers, know that you will also reap from whatever evil they sow. No matter how long.

Gidgiddy, Eastlink , Asgward73 and other IPOB members Will claim that it DSS killed these 3 police men just to give UGM/ESN a bad name.

Yes, Osun, Ekiti ,Edo and Akwa-Ibom States

ezenwajosh:
Have you seen Lagos from 25-7 January?

Just dead this propaganda. Dec 25-Jan 07 happens everywhere and it has nothing to do with Igbo but rather a period of Yuletide when many people travel home to spend time with their families and many companies close down (on holiday).

From 1967-1970 when Igbos left for Igboland, Lagos economy was thriving.

The Talibans like most other 'revolutionaires' have no training and experience in the art of governance, especially in rebuilding a resource poor country like Afghanistan.

Propagating religious ideologies on it's own can't solve any problem in the 21st century.

ScamHunter:
No worries....There would be no need for Igbo to do that so that the Yoruba start singing Yoruba Ronu, Igbo is destroying Lagos. This time, the Yoruba would do it by crippling SW economy through a sit-at-home. After all Wakillyu Isikillyou, the Fulani warlord and one-man army that torments Yorubaland has been freed from prison. Naturally, when the new wave of exodus to Republique La Benin commences, there would be no need for Yoruba to start chanting Southern Unity again. Since IPOB has taught you people what sit-at-home is and is capable of doing - tormenting enemies of Biafra like you, you lot would just copy it and ground Lagos and Yorubaland before the IDPS become too much in Republique La Benin. That is more action than begging for southern unity again.

You are giving answers for questions that weren't asked.


The post is NOT about Yorubas or their problems but about how IPOB can actualize Biafra by crippling the economy they control.

Staypositive:
Ma gee
It is well....


That is Imposible Buhari won't give Igbo man presidency that's what the BMC here on nairaland are saying....

I wonder why some BMC no get sense... For there aboki mind they think igbos need president, na only our policticians needs president....

So the North can continue with there president of a thing, igbo man no care...

All we want is BIAFRA... We are getting close to our new nation...

I can see a new Nation called BIAFRA...

I'm not a false prophet...
But this I have seen...

Jubril Al-Sudani has no right to give presidency to anybody.

Wahalaperson:
I don't really have issues with Obaseki fighting everybody around him from APC to PDP.
What I have problem with it the way the man abandoned governance since first term.
Education sector is rotten since he became a governor, this man has within five years in governance turned education in edo state from primary to tertiary to an eyesore.
Roads are worse, security is worse since 1999, sign anti open grazing bill, NO!!! But he's busy importing northerners to Benin minute of the day.
What manner of man is this? A useless tyrant.

Edo no be Lagos!

googlepikins:
If I escape from a Nigerian prison, there's no fcking way I could be recapture. Especially if you're on a death row

It's not possible., You think all these lazy underpaid officers have your time to be searching for you around this country?

If I hear

They may be recaptured because most of the escaped inmates have to commit more crimes (like stealing clothes to change their prison uniforms or stealing money to spend) immediately after the espcape

erubati:
I laugh.
The guy carry hand press record
Carry hand open Snapchat app
Carry hand press upload
U come dey tell me say na mistake
I fit swear for u tiwa

The woman in the video is not even Tiwa Savage but her look alike. I think they deliberately labelled it as Tiwa Savage to generate publicity.

shugamummy:
Then Igbos should have the right to seek a nation of their own if they feel they don't belong to where they are not considered eligible to lead. At least let them go and lead themselves to doom if that's their end

Where have I ever say they shouldn't go?


Every part of Nigeria that don't want to be part of this country should be allowed to break away because unity, just like love can NOT be enforced.

Nakedtruths:
Why not use your platform to garner donations and ensure ikonso family get it instead always saying this online, are you not a man, do something

But
1) Ikonso died fighting IPOB's battles.

2) IPOB used the unfortunate death of Ikonso to request for donations to help his wife and son .

3) IPOB embezzled the donations while Ikonso's widow and son are now suffering.

4) Somehow, you are suggesting that OyigboUpdate,a well known and outspoken opponent of IPOB should use his plateform to get another donations for the family left behind by Ikonso.


Think deeply about the error of judgement in your suggestion

Penguin2:
This OP is a big fool

Why is he a fool.


This is democracy and everybody has a right to support whoever they like including the candidate you hate.

[quote author=Racoon post=106852254][/quote]Try to organize your own 1 million man March against Tinubu

onumadu:
Well, like I said, the idea of conquering people and making them pay tax to Islamic caliphate would have failed flat in Igboland (and even their neighbors like Ibibio, Efik, etc,) because those people had already been in contact with the Europeans for hundreds of years along the coasts. They had GUNS and other tools of war. People like Jaja of Opobo for example even had emissaries to Europe.
The Aro were a well organized confederacy controlling slave trade. The Aro for example had a war with the British (The Anglo-Aro war) in 1901-1902.
Like I said, there is a reason the British couldn't exert direct rule over Igboland. They had to institute indirect rule.
The point is that the idea of slave raids into Igboland would not have succeeded without local support (like the Aro cooperation for example). Secondly the idea of forcing Igbo to pay tax was dead on arrival unless you wanted war because paying of tax was traditionally totally alien to Igbo. And of course the idea of being "second class citizen" can only happen within Igbo traditional institutions. Igbo believed that each man was equal to the other. That was what gave rise to the notion that Igbo had no kings.

Read to understand and not from a preformed fixed mind.


1) The Communities that were within the vicinity of Sokoto like Zuru were the ones conquered because they were in the same 'country'. Nothing concern Igboland in the story because by 1804, the Jihardists didn't know that there were any groups called igbos.

2) Outside the Sokoto Caliphate, the Islamic Armies never bordered to convert the pagan communities to Islam. They however raised them for slaves.

3) Real wars were however waged against powerful non-muslim countries that threatened the corporate existence of the Caliphate. These were kingdoms/Empire that share borders with the Caliphate.

Igbo,Ijaw, Efik were very distant tribes and had no contact with the Caliphate because there were hundreds of other tribes intervening between them and the Sokoto Caliphate

Amumaigwe:
You want us to celebrate this murderer who starved 3 million Biafran Children to death? He deserves to be eaten by worms alive. That's my birthday wishes.

God has already celebrated Gen Gowon.


Monuments are named after him in different parts of the country despite the fact that he comes from a minority tribe of about 7,000 peoples.

The Rivers State Gov't recently renamed the LIBRATION Stadium, Port Harcourt as YAKUBU GOWON Stadium,Port Harcourt.

kettykin:
Did he really win a war or starve innocent women and children forcing Biafra to surrender to save lives

'When you go to war but your plans
and strategies for survival depends on the magnanimity and cooperation of your opponents, you may as well say that you are trying to commit mass suicide'

Gen Gowon won the war ,fine and square.



You people never for once hold the Biafran authority responsible for the starvation of women and children while they diverted relief foods to feed their Biafran soldiers.


Ojukwu was a great man but nevertheless a man who like all other mortals made mistakes and had his flaws which you like to overlook.


It is very difficult to see any Biafran who thinks Ojukwu and his Biafran Junta shared part of the Blame for what went wrong.

PROUDIGBO:
It gives them a misplaced sense of importance!

Even i, as recently as a year ago, was all for a Biafran country made up of willing partners from the south-east and parts of the south-south and middlebelt....basically, an all-comers affair! But i’ve since come around to reason like those who advise on having a homogeneous Igbo nation! The only exception would be to have a confederation if say the Akwa-Cross and Opobo/Bonny want to join!

Please help me add Kogi, Benue and Taraba States to Biafra sir.

okigbojihad:
multi-ethnic biafra has long been discarded for info.

yaribanza female pig, u have been pressed since yoloba women were termed too dirty, ugly and undesirable so i completely understand your recent paranoia. but truth be told yoloba women stink of shit pile.

Don't derail the thread by introducing childish tribal slurs.