₦airaland Forum

Abohboy:
Go and read about Baghdad at it's peak and the golden age of Islam google is your friend.

The numerals we use today were made in India but spread by the Arabs they were a bridge between Asia and the Western World

You're really going to ignore how Spain owned 20% of the world at a time it was once a world superpower also the Islamic Moors did a lot for Spain and if you bothered to use google you'd see why

Islamic radicalization I have no clue of how it started but Islam is not just bloodshed and inshallah as far as I know there's a source of the violence and it isn't always Islam

I am not Muslim I am a Christian who just reads about African Religions and enjoys history

Islam has been associated with violence from it's inception and the cause is the environment where it originated.

You can't divorce a man from his background.

Prophet Muhammed was born, grew-up and lived in the 7th century Arabian societies in the Al-Hijaz.

Life in that Region in the 7th century was harsh with few resources to sustain large population so people bounded to their kinds for protection, survival and struggle against competitors. Violence was not only permissible but very necessary in this environment.


The problem with the Religion is the failure of Islamic Fundamentalists to modernize and realize that certain seemly religious acts or decrees in the Qur'an and the Haddiths were inspired to solve the problems at the time but not a permanent solutions for all generations.

thebosstrevor1:
The bible is not just a story book but a book where ideas are gotten from, it is also a book where you learn ancient wisdom, system of government and how to rule and organize society

Where in the Bible did Christ talk about any system of Government?

Where in the Bible did they talk about democracy?


Christianity is about the teaching of Christ.

thebosstrevor1:
Sorry sir.

Democracy is a Christian concept, founded on Christian principles. Even in the bible, there are passages backing it up.

You obviously don't know what you are talking about.


Different culture have systems that allow people to contribute to their governance and this is democracy.

In the Old Oyo Empire which had nothing to do with Christianity, there were elements of Democracy.

BKayy:
When you talk about Christianity in Nigeria, who do you refer to?
I don't think it's the people one of their own is the CEO of MURIC

Stop being silly, it's wrong to assume that Christianity = Igbo

thebosstrevor1:
Democracy is just the present religion of Christian nations, they spread it with wars, sanctions and propaganda.

If it was so good then other countries will have been adopting it with no issue but you are forced to adopt it or else you will die or your country destroyed.

Christian nations have been fighting the non believing nations because they didn't adopt their democracy religion, what have they achieved? profit from wars, death of non believers, destruction and total collapse of nations, they keep disturbing world peace and endangering people

Pls shut up and stop spreading your dangerous propaganda, Saudi Arabia, UAR, Jordan, Swaziland, Morocco, Thailand etc are all practicing Monarchial system of Government and nobody has destroyed their Countrie.


Christianity is about the teaching of Christ and Christ never mentioned anything about Politics, Government or concerned himself with wordly affairs.

ChiefSosa:
Bros, this is not a matter of "women get issues". Tuface really messed up. Annie really tried to have stuck with him, upon all the nonsense. 2face was irresponsible to have fathered multiple kids in the first place, when he's not polygamous. U feel say e easy for 2face to get better woman like Annie? Forget all that superstar stuff. We be guys, but make we dey tell each other the truth sometimes.....

Lmao, there's nothing I said here that's not known to the world already, unless you've not come outside of your mud house with thatched roofs since the 2000's. Tuface literally admitted to his mistakes several years ago. Foh



You literally heard me say this above quote in my comment, yet you're saying all these bull crap. If he was polygamous, will I even say anything? Always comprehend before quoting/mentioning me. You don go sniff dat tin again abi?
If you're polygamous, then be polygamous so we'll know; we no go kee u. Don't marry someone, either man or woman, with the believe that you'll stick to them forever, whereas you're spending suspicious moments with other people, either ex or not.

Common sense(which you obviously lack) should tell you this is not about 'simping' or 'alphamale' or 'feminisms', etc THIS IS DIFFERENT.
You think going about on Nairaland with your dry muscles, tattered clothes, malnourished body and mouth that obviously smells like old people farts, while shouting "Alphamale" or calling others "simp" is what makes you a man?? You better go and do worthwhile and productive things with your life.

Bros, Tuface is a polygamist QED!




The other women who have several children for him are his other wives , calling them Baby Mamas is just like calling six ,half-a-dozen.

ChangedMan1999:
If it hasn't been confirmed whether Kalahari is Ijaw, is it Ndoki that is Ijaw.


Many bastards here say Spanish and Portuguese are alike but not the same therefore Igbo speaking of South South are not Ndigbo.


Even if we excuse language, the names of the villages attest to who they are.

How exactly does this matter relate to Igbo sir?

mrvitalis:
French are an ethnic nation with sub groups , but they are all french ...same can be said for Spain ...same ethnic nations different tribes

Italy same

Just like Yoruba Nation and Igbo nation have several tribes under them but they are largely the same ...they share similar culture

Ghana have the Ashantis as major ethnic group

China same the Chinese are over 70% of the China

Yorubas have more in common with Ashantis than hausa/Fulani kanuris

Igbos have more in common with southern Cameroon than even north

Nigeria we don't share similar value in any way

It's obvious that you assumed so many things about European countries without a deep understanding of their Histories.


In France , the majority people are of Gaulish descendants but the Catalans, the Corsicans ,the Basques and the people of Navarra are of different origins but all have now agreed to live together as 'French people'



You are right about the different Ethnic groups in Nigeria to a reasonable extent.

The real reason why Nigeria, like most other African countries fail to develop is because most of their citizens don't think well in the ways that can solve the problems of their societies, even if we divide the country into 20 different smaller countries, there will still be developmental challenges.


It requires about 60% of the population of Nigeria or any other country to believe in and support a particular way if they want to succeed in that way.

Fejoku:
Anyone who knows Kalabari's history very well know that they're descendants of mixed people with Igbo and Ijaw being the largest contributors. Efik, Ibibio and edoids around down Niger tributaries also added to the fold making the place a cocktail of different persons. Two things however standout which is the language and culture of the people. Igbo language is predominant there together with a dialect similar to Ijaw but the customs and traditions resemble that of coastal people around the area specifically more of the Ijaws. Areas traditionally regarded as Kalabari doesn't include Okrika and Bonny. These two see themselves different even up till date.
This recent story of carving a niche for themselves isn't surprising. In fact, it is expected because the truth is that there's hardly any sincerity in the creation of numerous 'ethnic nationalities in Rivers state. There's hardly any state in Nigeria that is as politically jinxed as Rivers state. Even Ogoni don't agree that they all are one. Some Igbo groups there have the same problem. Now even the Kalabari have started their own. I expect the Andoni and Nkoro to start their own too.
There's too much lies in Rivers state.

What did you mean by 'No State is as politically jinxed as Rivers State'?

SlayerForever:
I can see owu there meaning water people! May that be a variation of Oru in Igbo??!!!!!!



Anyways, what I can get from this writeup is that Ijaw are just playing games. And the Kalabari being much older (according to article) cannot agree to descending from a more recent Ijaw. Logical analysis.

This would also indirectly call into question the claims of some Igbo tribes to have descended from a more recent Bini, when the Igbo have been documented to be far far older (as even heralded by Ooni and some other monarchs in the know). It is a stupid claim indeed as indirectly illustrated by this article.

The article is about Kalabari and Ijaw. It has nothing to do with Igbo and we don't know how igbo came into the discussion.

Iyaebe:
Only God knows what is in erection that men can't control, how on earth are mad women getting pregnant? I think there's a natural mental disorder associated with erection.

The fact that people are mad doesn't mean they no longer have sexual urges.

Mad women too feel Hot and they gratify their sexual cravings by having sex with mad men, destitutes or 'Area Boys'

Nonexisting1:
Women will always be too quick to tell what their husband did and leave out what they did. Isn't that hypocrisy? A man that was dancing on his wedding day and spending money like a politician which sometimes was borrowed from friends can not suddenly wake up one day and forget the road to the gym where there is a punching bag and starts punching his wife's face. Since you want to discuss your marital problems in the public, do so without leaving out any detail because the fools in the social media have not outnumbered the wise. Some of us still dey read with our common sense intact.

Women like emotional blackmail.


I was trying to talk to my adopted sister on saving her relationship.

She sobbing ,attracting undue sympathy and telling me how her BF jilted her. Later on, after getting her confidence, I offered to appeal to the guy who incidentally happened to be a colleague but I probed further to asked her what she did that made him cut off the relationship.
She said she was flirting with one young man (but they haven't had sex) and somehow her BF got to know!

She started begging the BF to forgive her but she claimed he rather embarrassed her by going to her family to report the matter.

Karlovych:
Afonja-American

Semi-educated bigots are easy to know.


She is an American.

Black Americans involved in the civil Rights movement especially with encouragement of 'The Nation of Islam' adopted African and Muslim names.

Lamasta:
Take it

These Indian Police men are crude and very racist. How can Police men be using wooden planks to beat a Nigerian simply because he smuggled drugs?

mrvitalis:
Most Nations are formed by people with largely similar value that's one

N most nation are either homogeneous or have one dominant ethnic group

The last statement is VERY wrong sir.


There are so many different ethnic groups in the World and so few nations=> most nations have many ethnic groups.



There are two types of Nations;

1) Civic Nations: where the people simply agree to live together. Classical examples are France and Switzerland.

2) Ethnic Nations: Where the inhabitants have common origin, history, language, culture and obey a common political authority. Classical examples are Germany and Somalia.

mrvitalis:
Uhrobo people today see them selves as one today that's same for ishekiri same for efik same for annang same for ogoni

These people who accept they are one would decide where they want to be and serve as a fedrating units

It's simple

Nigeria as it's structured today can't work because we share several value systems

There is absolutely nothing sacrosanct about the unity of Nigeria.

Nations are set up to protect the interests of their people ,so if the people of Nigeria feel the country can't protect their interests, it's very appropriate to break Nigeria down into manageable countries.


However you need to understand that political and not necessarily cultural/tribal factors are the greatest determinants of who get which territories.

Except for small homogeneous nations, most countries are actually not homogeneous ethnic nations are you be assuming but these countries emerged from having a single political authority.

proeast:
This abo.ki is no longer trying to disguise himself anymore. SMH.

Snapping the suburbs of a city after a heavy downpour and displaying it as news is what I understand. Is there any city or town in Nigeria that doesn't experience flash floods after heavy rainfall? So how exactly is this news?!

But you don't talk like this if they are posting flooded parts of Lekki, Lagos State but will rather be shouting and calling for the head of a politician who left office in 2007.

TarOrfeeek:
I'm not against Journalism and highlights of our political ineptitude.

But BBC Hausa has never called out the Northern Oligarch for the many issues bedeviling the North.

Why are they now so invested in uploading pictures of a flooded road in Owerri. Something that looks ordinary in the sense that after Rainfall, water takes time before flowing out.

BBC Igbo should either tell positive Igbo stories or they should start making comics.

But if this were to be in Lekki, where some places are at the sea level, you won't be saying this is normal and expected.

NoSentiment:
The day the Apc fields a southern candidate and PDP a northern candidate is the day the APC willingly agrees to cease ruling Nigeria. Reasons?

(1) Northerners (both elite and peasantry) do not see the current APC govt as having worked for or represented their best interests. This may come as a surprise to an average southerner who considers Buhari's alleged sectional appointment as sth the north sees as anything or is happy about. The thinking in the north is that almost of of Buhari's capital projects are concentrated in the Lagos-Ibadan axis. He is seen by most as having done nothing concrete for the north. He has, for instance, even done nothing for his traditional strongholds of Kano (except a prison) and Bauchi (except a recent plan for a university in Azare)! This is not to talk of Katsina (except a transport univ in Daura)

2. The SE naturally dislikes APC and its president Buhari. Plus, they see the SW as having betrayed their benefactor (GEJ). Hence, they'll rather vote for a northern PDP candidate (may be with an igbo vice) just to spite the APC and PMB and pay the SW back for their "betrayal" of their benefactor.

3. The SW is sophisticated and politically (and religiouly) indecisive. Even if a PDP candidate comes from there, still a very good APC candidate stands the chance of getting reasonable amounts of votes there.

Therefore, a Northern PDP candidate is guaranteed to get the northern votes (where there is now an unprecedented disdain for PMB and dislike for APC) + the protest votes of the SE (a region that has a fleshy political bone to pick with SW where the southern APC candidate is highly likely to come from) + the votes of the highly indecisive SW.

In contrast, a Southern APC candidate at most has a guarantee of the votes of the SW (where he comes from) but not that of the North ( northerners may be seen as illiterate but they're politically smart) or south (where voter apathy or indifference or even, as it is highly likely, protest votes against PMB and APC may be decisive)

The best bet for the PDP is fielding a northern candidate especially if APC goes south where she's without an ounce of doubt going to see shege from both the southerners that it would want to give medicine after death and the northerners that I'd take for granted.

2023 is packed with alot of drama for those whose lives Allah spares to see it.

How many States do you think the PDP and the APC are each likely to win and the likely votes from such States?

mrvitalis:
There is no indiginous nation today that doesn't have a clear border ... uhrobo borders are largely know , ishekiri borders area largely know , ijaw borders are largely known

The few gray area would be sorted out simple

Willinks report already sorted this things out in 1959 but they refused to implement them

Obviously you don't know exactly what constitute a Nation.

1) Not all ethnic groups in Pre-1914 Nigeria formed nations.

2) The present classification of people living in this country as Hausa, Igbo, Urhobo ,Yoruba, Efik, etc were introduced by the British Colonial Masters as a way of grouping tribes that are close enough to be considered the same unit.
Many of these ethnic groups didn't have a central government, capital city with defined and permanent borders.
3) In Pre-colonial Nigeria,Kwarafa Empire, Sokoto Caliphate, Oyo Empire, Bini Empire, Ijebu Kingdom, Kanem-Borno Empire, Calabar Kingdom, Igala Kingdom may be considered Nations in their own right but it should not be misconstrued that these exactly fit into ethnic groups as well now classify peoples.

4) Even in present day Nigerians still engage in inter-tribal 'wars' to define tribal territories e.g Ezza/Ezzi peoples in Ebonyi State, Offa-Erinle and Share/Edu both in Kwara, Bolewa Vs KareKare over Fika-Potiskum in Yobe, Ijaw Vs Itsekiris over Warri, Ijaw Vs Ikwerres over Port-Harcourt, Jukun Vs Tiv over Wakari in Taraba State, Ijaw Vs Bini over Gelegele in Edo State etc.

5) Disagreement, fights and ever wars over boundaries is as old as man.

In the Holy Bible, King Ahab of Israel reminded his servants that Ramoth-Gilead belong to Ancient Israel (1 Kings 22:3-35) , urged the visiting King Jehosaphat of Judah to follow him to battle against Syria to reclaim the territory but he was wounded in the midst of the battle and bled to death.


The modern boundaries of European countries were agreed upon with treaties signed usually after several years of wars which occurred over centuries of nation building.

mrvitalis:
Nigeria is made up ethnic nations ...each of this nations know their bothers ..each would be asked to determine by referendum where they want to be simple

Before 1914, there were no clear cut unambiguous borders between the numerous kingdoms that make up Nigeria. Some people even were just living in numerous villages, each of which is independent of each other.

To creat new countries out of Nigeria with clear cut unambiguous borders that will be universally acceptable is not going to be easy, it will require mutual agreements among the neighbouring tribes to formalize.

Eeyah, he was a fine surgeon and former Chairman of EKO Hospital Plc

mrvitalis:
No ..Igbo is a tribe. Igbos are part of the so called Niger delta and it was not by choice

Every tribe should be given a choice to choose which country to follow

By the way, who is determining the borders of these new countries?

a) National Assembly
b) The Secessionist groups themselves
c) The Supreme Court
d) The incumbent president

mrvitalis:
America is a settler country ...they killed the indigenous people so it's doesn't matter

Is Biafra a tribe?

ogechchukwu:
Most people talking in this forum know that igbos are very powerful tribe in all Angle.

From making weapon to making money. Education is now ours now must of our kids goes to school unlike before that the war deprived us school .

That is the reason the so called Nigerians do not want us out because they know our capabilities.

Check Nigeria as a whole most of all the investment are owned by igbos ..
With out government helping .

We are self made billionaires and millionaires.

We are equipped with knowledge..

If u say am lying challenge me..

Then use this your superior knowledge and much touted capabilities to break yourself away from Nigeria and let us hear words.


How can the most successful, the most intelligent and the most educated tribe in a country also be the tribe that mostly cry and complain of marginalization

achu442:
Bet me.

The Talibans would end up fighting amongst themselves for the next 50 years.

You think you are wiser than the USA.

Watch out how it would play.

Islam is always associated with confusion and blood shed

It's a question of time before the people of Afghanistan revolt against the Taliban Government.


The Talibans are mostly illiterate Islamic Fundamentalists who wrongly assume that religious moral codes alone can solve the problems of modern societies.

They have little or no knowledge about governance & administration, Economy, International Relations and Industrialization.

achu442:
Please tell him

Christainity hasnt influenced any system of government in any state.

But these fools want to impose Islam into a system of government.

Since Islam is peaceful, why are Afghanistans running away from their country �

Thank you sir.



Why are Muslim Afghanistans running away when Islamists took over from secular politicians?

loveth360:
We yoruba will rather Vote for Shekua of Boko haram than voting for Ibo man.

This mean the Igbo candidate will still win even if the Yorubas don't vote for him, the other 5 Geo-political zones will vote for him.

loveth360:
We yoruba will rather Vote for Shekua of Boko haram than voting for Ibo man.

You ought to have out grown all these.

thebosstrevor1:
If you have read what i wrote you would have replied well.

Islam fundamentalism started when Christian countries invaded islamic countries.

9/11 and other violent act against western nations was a reaction to these invasions by Christian nations.

Isis, al Shabaab, boko haram and iswap even though have islamic undertone are all sponsored by Christian nation to subvert islamic nation

What exactly do you mean by Christian nations?


Western European countries and their NATO allies are secular countries with their own interests that has nothing to do with the teaching of Christ.

Christianity has nothing to do with establishing a style of Government.

thebosstrevor1:
If you have read what i wrote you would have replied well.

Islam fundamentalism started when Christian countries invaded islamic countries.

9/11 and other violent act against western nations was a reaction to these invasions by Christian nations.

Isis, al Shabaab, boko haram and iswap even though have islamic undertone are all sponsored by Christian nation to subvert islamic nation

The First and Second Fitna, the violence associated with the Ashura Festival ,the order of the Assassins and the gruesome murders of the Caliphs happened at the infant stage of Islam and had nothing to do with Christians but everything to do with violent nature of the Islamic religion.

Ovamboland:
Likely back fully under the control of same Fulani

Do you know see why so many people from that areas fought for one Nigeria during the civil war?