₦airaland Forum

gidgiddy:
Yeah, we Igbos will continue with a name attached to a British officers girlfriend that has since become poverty capital of the world, third most terrorised country on earth and 147 most corrupt nation on earth

Yeah, I can see why a lot of people would love to be part of such a lovely country

It's funny how you people try to extricate yourself from any negative thing about this country but ironically still live in and enjoy the goodness of the same country.

mdntiri:
I'm Ghanaian I've never heard of this Ijaws are from Ghana thing I keep seeing here. Ashanti is in the interior of Ghana and has no coastline

Hmn, you shaa want to puncture their balloon of lies

Eastlink:
Maybe you should me what Nwaku means in Ijaw.

cc Bishopmagic, Oyatz, Tonye and other Ijo nationalists.

I don't know what it means sir.




In the next 200 years, almost all southern Nigeria would have coalesce into one super ethnic group.

ojsmscom:
the current economic move by rivers and Lagos State Government in Nigeria will expose alot of economic irregularities perpetuated by some nothern states in Nigeria.states like Kano and Kaduna are quite populous but what surprises me is why Enugu and Ebonyi generates more money for electricity distribution company than these states..is it that they don't use electricity or they use without paying... please which economic factor could be responsible for this miracle.without sentiment someone should let me know

Issues surrounding electricity go beyond population sir. As someone who once lived and worked in Kano State, I can say that electricity is far more available down south than in Kano State.



However you need to know that these States are served by different electricity companies.

Abohboy:
You really think Jaja was the sole Igbo person to enter Bonny? When we already know that there were Igbos who came at the same time or a bit later then the Ijaws and even Igbos who came as traders and became traditional rulers in Bonny, you cannot denounce the Igbo population in Bonny, it may have been Ijaw 1000 years ago but now it is overly Igbo

I am NOT denouncing anything but correcting the wrong impression that the tribe of the founder of a dynasty must always be the ethnic group of the town.

In any case, Jaja , though was born an IIgbo man but died as an Ijaw man and not an Igbo.

If Opobo and Bonny are Igbo cities, there won't be need for all these debates because it would have been crystal clear to all that they are Igbo cities just as we don't need debates to know that Owerri, Mbaise and Aba are Igbo cities.

DubaiLandLord:


When did the Jews migrated from Israel to Igbo land?

Hmnn, I know where you are going!

bobowaja:
I like setting the record straight. I have seen a lot of lies flying about for the past few days, especially of that boy that wanted to cry cos people spoke Igbo. If Yoruba should start claiming lands, we will claim Edo with Bini sef cos we own their obaship. But we see beyond that. Those are people with different cultures. The only thing we share with Bini is the obaship and as for the citizens, they are not Yoruba.

That Oba of Bini have Yoruba ancestors doesn't mean his kingdom belongs to us. Same fallacy you guys want to pull on bonny cos jaja had Igbo bloodline.

Jaja alone can't constitute the town just as a tree doesn't make a forest.


Who were the wives of Jaja and they were from which tribe? Who were the chiefs, servants, soldiers and followers of Jaja and what was their tribe?

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Your wife is beautiful shaa

Maxymilliano:
I wondered what will he the fare of non productive states like Ekiti, Kebbi, Jigawa, Yobe etc if the court ruling is allowed to stand

Water will find it's levels.



These States are not unproductive, they will simply look inwards to find what they can tax among the things they produce e.g 1) Yobe, Katsina, Jigawa can introduce 5% VAT on every cattle, bags of onions, beans, rice and millets they produce.

2) Ekiti, Osun and Kwara will introduce 5% VAT on Kolanuts, eggs, animal feeds, timbers, cassava and other Agricultural produce.



With time, each State will be demanding to mine it's mineral resources.

Welcome to the gradual introduce of RESTRUCTURING

That mean he is well fed by the DSS.

Allsouls:
Since all ethnic groups dont like Buhari but pretend, only Igbos from day one shows that we hate the idiot with out pretending. It's now from you mouth that were not Nigerians but Biafran's we don't belong in the contraption called Nigeria. Every where on that 9th will be lock down.

Apart from Nairaland and other social media, where else do this Biafra exist?

richmond500:
Minus the debt of these states and I'll be richer than some states

You don't understand the ratings. It's not talking about Budget and Account balances of the Governments of each State.

Simps disgust me

Abohboy:
They're kind of a mix of Bantu, Yoruba and Igbo

Their attire is Yoruba
Their known for business and industry like the Igbo
Their music is like Yoruba and Igbo
Their language is a grassfield anguage which is very similar to Bantu languages

Most people don't really know that we are related than what is presently acknowledged. Before the advent of colonialism, most people freely move from one territory to another.

Kaduna1stson:
Awon land grabbers

Apart from Dahomey, there's no other place related to yoruba. What about our people fulani that are indegenous to the south west, please add them to the list.

Discussions about Genetic Haplogroups is beyond your level of education, exposure and understanding.
It's better that you keep quiet and learn or go to the Children section.

HornyTave:
can you make a scenario narrative how Oranmiyan seized/captured the throne without a fight?

This is not the bone of contention.


My point is that Oranmiyan wasn't one of the Ogisos. There was even a an interregum between the Ogiso ere and the Advent of Obaship when Igodomingodo became a Republic before transforming into Ile-Ibinu , Ubini and finally Bini Empire

RobbStark:
I really do not have time for them cos their rant na here e end..

They own everywhere in Naija but when e be, them go run go east crying that they have list everything.
They are yet to learn their lesson
Same way they claim Ph is Ibo land yet they were driven out.

I am waiting for their new thread as day break.
Mumu people

They often fail to learn from the mistakes of the past.


They ought to learn from the events of 1967-1970 and build on the positive aspects while discarding the negative aspects.

Eastlink:
You guys never seize to amaze me. Another Ijaw on the loose licking his wounds. A champion that took cover when his boys were pummeled with raw facts should hide in shame. Hope you can see that the thread has been done and dusted as those who brought evidence to the thread have all gone leaving you in your myseries. Your's will always be on fraudulent history of yesterday's concoted stories. Maybe you need to call Prof. Alagoa to come to your rescue as only him seems to have the fake evidence in his book.
Your inputs is as irrelevants as you have nothing to hold on. Come back when men take their sits.

Stop writing things that aren't relevant to the question he asked; list the War Canoes houses of Opobo that are Igbo?

OfoIgbo:
I want you to access this YouTube video. Start to watch from 5:30, as I need you to observe the Ijaw fedora hats those canoe people are wearing. Now from 6:00, listen to the interviewee mention some of the participants in the Opobo boat regatta competition, which includes OJEZULIGBO, OKWUEME,. OBIEFULE e.t.c


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6pvy66l_4E&t=368s


Anyway, the most popular politician in Opobo has already declared the Igboness of Opobo so you lot are wasting time

This is not about the war canoe houses and the question he asked.


Your line of defence is similar to Chief Jim Nwobodo declaring before the PDP delegates at the 1999 Jos Convention that he himself is also a Northerner and he gave his speech in Hausa Language.

HornyTave:
you still haven't explained.

1. Ginuwa ruling house
2. Evben and Ada
3. The identity between Itshekiri and Binis in royal coronation and ordinance

Don't give me the Ada and Evben is a corrupt word of the Yoruba because

1. Ogiso Ere introduced the Ada and Evben
2. Ogiso Ere is the 2nd Ogiso while Oranmiyan was the 37th Ogiso.
3. Evben means leave in my language.
4. They neither meant justice or mercy.

also can you tell me who was the first Ooni of Ife and how many Ooni ruled Ife before Oranmiyan, I havent found a satisfactory answer.


PS : do you notice the guy holding the Ada, is always with the Olu? that's a culture kf the binis

Oranmiyan was the first Oba of Bini and the founder of the incumbent OBA dynasty, he was never an Ogiso.

Ogiso= Ogie + Iso= Kings of the sky.

OfoIgbo:
Peterside is also not an Igbo name, yet his Igboness is not in doubt and he personally proclaimed.

Ijaws in Ubani were mere migrant porters and menial labourers. Nothing more nothing less

RobbStark asked a simple question that you should name the War Canoes houses of Opobo that are Igbos but you are saying what's unrelated.

Nyamiri:
Ogbemudia Is Igbo indeed. No wonder he killed your fathers like dogs. Stupidity is in your lineage.

This is too much sir!

Malawian:
Bafagry is still controlled by Fon. I have been there and I have seen the people predominantly there, they do not seem like Yoruba people to me, although there are Yoruba look6people there as well.

The correct name for the ethnic group of Badagry is OGU (EGUN).


However OGU (EGUN) = Fon +Yoruba.

slim75d:
jaja threw every ibo heritage he had the day his greedy parents/ tribe sold him out for slavery, he never saw himself as an iboman, if he had he wouldn't have called himself amayanabo instead of igwe and named the new kingdom opubo which an ijaw word and other ijaw tradition

This is very similar to a Nigerian travelling to the US and becoming a n American citizen.

BiafraAburi:
Our fathers that used your so-called diplomacy, where did it get them?

Honestly, they were better off than the present generation.

Shokoloko:
It is impossible that slaves will be allowed to form a cult

It is impossible that a deity of the slaves would be allowed to roam the village swallowing children

Why would the King Opubo Pepple refer to the Ibo sacred reptile as "his" fetish or juju?

In human sociology, never say anything is impossible.

Ex-black slaves in Brazil, Cuba and other countries Latin America have their own religious cults and deities like The Santeria Cult.

Yeah, the leader of a community can adopt any religion or worship any deity that provide solutions to his (mostly political) problems especially in a highly superstitious environment like African societies in the 19th century.

5ThChild:
Instead of you to make friends with the Niger-delta people, you are making foes of them. Isn't that unwise ?
They are the only people that holds the chance of realizing anything Biafra

You are weak, accept that fact. Chose your enemies wisely

Their modern generation don't have the necessary diplomatic attitudes needed in a heterogeneous country like Nigeria.

slim75d:
i am a full fledged opobo son from Dappa's war canoe house. Yes we speak a mixture of ibani/ijaw wit igbo. That does not make us igbos our culture, traditions are all ijoid, so look for a brother that have access to the atlantic some where else

Are you sure you are not Igbos?

paramakina202:
Recognising people of Opobo as Igbo speaking people simple.They are not Ijaw as claimed by our neighbours.

Which tribe are they presently?



And you think about twenty people on Nairaland is all what it takes to proclaim Opobo as Igbo people?

paramakina202:
It is all about keeping the record straight nothing more.
You can't see white and call it black and we let it stand.
Call Opobo what it is and forget the benefit.

Which records sir?

Why aren't we setting the same records straight about Onitsha, Aba, Abakaliki or Afikpo?

OfoIgbo:
Aro people were dealing in slaves in huge chunks of Igboland. That does not mean Arochukwu people are not Igbos.
Neutral writers have already confirmed which ethnic group owns Ubani, and we already know which family owns Opobo.

Good!

Since you already know all these, why all these threads upon threads trying to prove that Opobo ,Bonny and recently Kalabari are Igbos? Why aren't we seeing threads upon threads to prove that Owerri, Nnsuka or Aba are Igbo cities?

paramakina202:
Was Yoruba land united before the coming of Britain?
Yoruba was also a creation colonialism.
If Igboland start and end in SE so also Yoruba land start and end in SW.Bini land start and end in their 3 LGAs in Edo state.

What exactly do you guys gain in all these?

Suppose if everybody on this thread declare that Opobo is an Igbo town, how does it benefit you?

What do Nigerians even gain from membership of a tribe? Does belonging to a particular tribe make it easy for one to become successful in life?