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This arrant display of a dangerous blend of ignorance and arrogance.
As a neutral observer in this debate, the ways some Igbo irredentists become seriously embittered whenever Ikwerres say they are not Igbo never cease to amaze me


1) All over the world ,they examples of closely related languages with similarities in pronunciations and spelling of words but this does not mean one language is a corrupted form of another .

For example: Hopital (French)= hospital ( English)

Wilhelm (German)= William (English)
Oma (Itsekiris)= Oma (Igala)= Omo (Yoruba)
Orisha (Yoruba)= Oritshe (Itsekiri)

2) similarities of Ikwerre and Igbo languages/culture mean the two groups are related, it does NOT say one descend from another and who said the relationship can only mean Ikwerre descended from Igbo and not Igbo descended from Ikwerre?

3) You don't have copyright on any language or names, the person bearing any name owns that name.
If a Bini/Edo man is bearing Tayo, it is a Bini name, but if the bearer is Yoruba its a Yoruba name!
The are thousands of peoples bearing names like Ayo ,Lola, Akin/Aken, Taiwo &Kehinde, Segun, Kola etc that are ethnic Yoruba, Edo, Itsekiri etc.

4) Every body can see that Ikwerres are related to Igbo but are also related to Ijaws, so if they they say, they aren't Igbo, let's respect their choice.
It doesn't mean they have become enemies of Igbo's because of that, neither does this call for insulting or causing them.

Igboid:
My anger is that you dropped your Bini language, culture, and names, and took up our beautiful Igbo language and culture and names, corrupted and disfigured them to produce the abomination and impurity you now call Ikwerre language, culture and names.

My anger is that you are language, culture and name thieves. My anger is that you are a shameless people that will claim Igbo using our Language names and culture you stole as a basis, when it is convenient and deny the same when it's not convenient.

My anger is that all Ndiigbo had ever showed you Bini vagabonds the moment you arrived to our area from the Bini empire where yoh were probably casted away was love, yet all over the internet and in PH, all you people have for us is hatred and silly baseless accusations of things that we never did.

My anger with you Bini people are too numerous to outline.
The shameless nature of your people disgusts me.

Lagos has been inexistence for about 700 years and has been a maritime hub for at least 500years while Kano (Old name Dala) have been in existence for about a thousand years with records of diplomatic, economic and political relationships with the Ottoman, Songhai and Mali empires at a time nobody in the outside world knows your 'cities' ... Correct yourself, these are NOT newly developed city States.

hammer6:
Anybody fighting igbo is not ready to face the problem that is facing them and a coward and time waster, that will never achieve anything.

Igbo came together and supported GEJ knowing fully well that due to his weak leadership and sheepish approach he was not going to win. We supported him anyway.

If GEJ was Urhobo or Bini or Ibibio or Efik we do the same for them. That is the spirit.

Until the southern minority accept the invitation and join igbo on the round table of brotherhood, we together will continue to be victimised in this fraudulent entity called Nigeria.

There was once a time, the South could boast of at least(minimum) of 4 City States namely, Nembe, Bonny/Opobo, Okirika(Eclipsed by Port Harcourt now), Calabar.

Today, we rather argue over land, whilst we all migrate to newly established City States called Lagos, Abuja and Kano.

Wat a shame, how did it get so bad without hope of recovery/redemption? smh!

Which Igbo oil?

hammer6:
As it stands today in NIGERIA, the South West have Lagos as a commercial hub. Trade flows from Lagos to Ogun and other nearby state.
Abuja is their for the North. They have also developed Kaduna and Kano very well.

Now all this development is with Igbo, Ijaw, Ibibio, Urhobo, Itsekiri oil money.

We should all be coming together with a plan to establish wat is known as Economic zone, like Lagos.

Historians really need to carry out great researches on the legendary Afonja whether he led wars into the Igbo territories, killing some many Igbos 200years ago, who have now reincarnated as IPOB youths of today.

The way they loathe him as display on Nairaland daily is incredible.

Sanchez01:
I once mentioned that you guys have been remotely accessed into believing that those who have contrary views from yours regardless of where they are from are nothing but Afonja. Sadly, it says a whole lot about your reasoning. If Afonja killed you in your former life, I believe it won't be hard to figure. Amberon is an Urhobo lady. There is only a class of people I know who fill themselves with bile and hate, and that is some of the separatist Igbos. A whole lot is wrong, if you ask me.

Your MOUTH can cause a grown up man to start crying.

NwaAmaikpe:



Ice Prince has been at the recieving end this year.

First Maima dumped him,

Then Davido beat him up,

Now HushPuppi has trashed him...


Worst still, he has not dropped a hit.

This is so much for the failed rapper. He should just quit music and become a barber.

I think this Biafran issue has become a launching pad for so many vested interest to either gain or retain political relevance.

Bros Benue State is not Yoruba land.
All the Benue indigenes kicking against alleged annexation of their State to Biafra by Nnamdi KANU and IPOB are NOT Yoruba people.

Its Benue indigenes Vs IPOB, nothing concern Yoruba, fight it with them and stop shouting Yoruba upandan.

sankky:
I had expected to see a video evidence
While I lean more towards restructuring for now, its so nauseating seeing the amount of pains, torture and suffering that Yorubas and a few other regions subject themselves thru just to beg Igbos to stay with them in Nigeria. When such fails, they resort to cooking up warped stories of what an Igbo person said just to denigrate the said tribe. I was hoping to see the video of N.K saying such but, as usual, its a jaundiced beer parlor talk.
Four Igbo states have oil. The fifth has a mountain of untapped Coal. For Sea-port, Abia and Oguta have such access. why dont people cry and have nightmares about the anguish going on in their own regions instead of gnashing their teeth and spending sleepless nights cooking infantile stories just to beg Igbos not to go? There is no way anyone would force any part of Nigeria to follow his tribe. Its as stupid as the peddler of such cock and bull story. The decision to join any movement is by choice and not by force.
next time show videos please. I know most commenters here are below average in IQ and wont critique crappy stories like this.
Like I said before, restructuring for now is more preferable to me.

I also believe any tribe that want to secede should be allowed to do so in peace but I don't support all these methods and propaganda of IPOB.

Leez:
lol wat a question
the world has moved on from d sixties so anyone waiting for violence cuz of biafra is on a long thing
this so called one naija was founded on lies by lugard to ease administration and to aid d north.
stop waiting and living on british lies and go ur own way cuz like i said d igbos are so pro biafra already

I can't just stop laughing!

In one breath, you are shouting Biafra and in the next breath, you are threatening to show 'them' in the next election as if your 'show' in 2015 made any difference.

okochaik:
It is Almajiri people that is the problem and everyone knows that. Ibos are peaceful people with free mind hoping for one Nigeria, but at this point nothing can stop us from getting Biafra whichever​ way they want it. We will give them the greatest shock in the next election

How will boycott of Anambra election affect the Arewa Youth or the FG?

chiagozien:
Arewa youth are just making noise on page of news paper,they didn't write any letter,they are just playing mind game,they want ipob to start giving them attention.but ipob have no business with them,and their noise cant stop ipob from been resolute.....still on no referendum no election in biafra land starting with anambra my state.

How will all these doctors, Lawyers, Accountants and other professionals supporting Biafra achieved Biafra?
Can mere support, pirate radio station, street protests and now election boycott lead to the creation of Biafra?

Leez:
mwahahaahahahahahahaa
plan indeed
i have always maintained to these unity beggars dat a trip to d east will clear ur doubts
u expect govs and reps gaining frm ds scam to back biafra lol
cme and see bankers, lawyers,doctors,students backing biafra it will shock any unity beggar who is still deluded
one naija my ass

That's the main issues sir.



Let IPOB start from stopping Anambra State from collecting Federal allocation before stopping election

400billionman:
This model of governance is useless..

Let states fend for themselves with their resources..

Is Ogbomoso now, a part of Biafra or why bringing their matter to this topic being discussed?

iLoveConductor:
Statistics shows that 20% of Obomoso indegines are Christians, 25% Muslims, 30% pagans and the rest skull miners.

Is that what you call unity?

Bros, it seems your are taking this IPOB too serious, they themselves deep in their hearts don't mean all they have been saying.

FreeSpirited:
See how you've decided to throw away your God given sense and logic to disgrace your people.SMH.

According to 2006 census, the population of Ogbomosho was 645000 in 2006. Lets assume they are now 1million after 11 years...so you mean 250,000 people(I.e the rest 25%) are skull miners? Where is your sense and source?....This is how u guys spread lies and hate. And may I ask: What cause are the Ogbomoshos fighting for? that will necessitate more sense of purpose to achieve like the deluded Biafra

Bros, I never ask the Igbos to forgive anybody o, forgiveness for what exactly?
I strongly want the Nigerian government to treat the Igbos, Edo, Ijaws, Fulani, Berom, Jukun, Kanuri and indeed all Nigerians equally and with justice and fairness.

There is palpable anger and resentment everywhere , not just in the Southeast, come to Sokoto, Tambuwal, Gusau, Zuru, Argungun, Funtua, Malufachi, Kano, Wudil, Gaya, Hadejia, Bauchi, Azare, Potiskum, Jakusko, Gashua, Askira, Maiduguri, Biu, Michika, Mubi , Jebba, Ilorin, Ogbomosho, Isheyin, Ede, Osogbo, Akure, Asaba, Etche, Mbaise,,Orlu, Afikpo, Rumuokoro,Eleme, Oron, Idah and Mambilla, you will feel the pervasive anger and resentment.

All the masses of Nigeria are being marginalized .









[quotas author=Nwakaumu post=58718294]Your arguements about having igbo friends,is invalid.gowon even had igbo girlfriend when he was bombing igbos.as for asking igbo to forgive,that would come after your agree to reparation.finally,nigeria ve a bitter date with history.the current igbo generation ve a responsibility to their forefathers to avenge the injustice of nigeria govt against them.come to the east you will feel the anger and resesentment.[/quote]

Is the BBN show a breeding ground for upcoming musicians?

darlenese:
nationwide tour for what? as what?
nonsense
the BBN is really trash, imagine releasing pictures every now and then instead of releasing albums.
they have nothing to offer
msheeeew.

This Demola Ajayi has really suffered on Nairaland, but what really concern this Demola Ajayi with the topic being discussed?

drake2000x:
That Albino monkey is so cute. I have told you this and will continue to tell you Afonja skull miner ...there is no picture of any Igbo man alive that you will find online that will ever come close to this Demola Ajayi picture. Demola Ajayi is a masterpiece, in fact an epitome of what "ugly" is.

Relax bros, we all lost dear ones in that unfortunate phase of our National history, accept my sincere condolence.

Wars by nature are bad events in human history. However, the past , no matter how great or bad it may seems must belong to where it ought to, the past in order to move forward. This is the lesson many of our Igbo brothers have learned and embraced.

I have personally met several Igbo people ( I can't count the number, since we always have igbos in our house since I was born), some did bad (like every other people) but many are wonderful, had intimate relationship with few and one was particularly outstanding that we once planned spending the rest of our lives together. It didn't work as planned but that didn't erase the cherished memory we have of each other( may God bless Amarachi), none of them is as bitter as you seems.
They don't even talk about the civil war in our discussions, let alone nurse a 'revenge war' on the Yorubas.

Sir, i will strongly advise that you accept Jesus Christ into your life as your personal lord and saviour, allow the Holy spirit to possess your heart and heal all forms of bitterness, take time to relax, drink big stout/ Orijin and Isi-ewu at least once every weekend, play Nairabet if you have the annoiting or go to Silver bird gelleria if you can ,spend less time on Nairaland, stop listening to Radio Biafra, you will thank me later.

As per ,the Oduduwa- Biafran 'revenge genocide', kole werk sir.

Nwakaumu:
You want igbo to forget the mass-killing you meted out on his people just because you think the world has moved on.the same way you would like the jews to forget about the holocaust, you must be joking.let me tell, there is a section of igbo youths in diaspora who are not even cormfortable with kanus too much diplomcy with you murderous nigeria govt.very soon the chicken will come home to roost.3 million lives can never be forgeten so easily.no amount of propoganda will stop the second revenge war on your people.the diffrence is that it may be fought as biafra/oduduwa war.

NONE of the names/person I mentioned is Hausa and only one was hausanized Fulani.
1) You keep shouting Hausa ,Hausa ,Hausa without even knowing who are the hausas.

2) In Nigeria of today, Hausa is more of a language group than a tribal group.

3) To you, every body that's not Igbo or Yoruba must be Hausa..what a level of ignorance!

4) For most humans,its very easy to assume that our problems are caused by the other peoples (our spouse, partners, step mothers, rivals/ enemies, witches/wizards , Awolowo, Afonja, Ndi Ofe-mmanu, Fulani, yorubastard etc), we love to blame every other person except ourselves.

Neither the Hausa, Fulani nor Yoruba is the cause of your problems...even if your are given Biafra today, contrary to the pictures of El dorado,you envisage, there will still be problems

Nwakaumu:
With the names you listed here,is not obvious to you that the so called nigeria were hausa-fulani and their yoruba slave?.

Relax bros, take two criminally chilled bottles of Orijin from Mama Nnkechi shop step down with nnkwobi...we are in 2017, not the 1960s, forget this hatred for the Yoruba people , the world has gone beyond what you are thinking

Nwakaumu:
Keep qruning around.who does not know that nigeria military headquater was in lagos,dodan barack.yoruba people have a bitter date with history, you can go on lieing to urself.

On the Nigerian side:
Head of State : Gen Gowon (Not Hausa)
Chief of Staff: Admiral Wey(Not Hausa)
Chief of Army staff: David Ejoor ((Not Hausa)
Gen Officer, 1 division Nigerian army: Col Muhammadu Shuwa (Not Hausa)
GOC, 3 rd Marine commando : Col Benjamin Adekunle(Not Hausa)
Commander, motorized brigade: Col Murtalar Muhammed (Not Hausa) ...

The Biafrans can bring their list.

If your level of education is such that you believe those who fought on Nigerian side were Hausa tribal warriors joined by Yoruba tribal warriors while those who fought on Biafran side were Igbo tribal warriors, then there is nothing I can do to help you.

Nwakaumu:
Who was nigeria,who was biafra?tell us,history revisionist.

Stop misleading young Nigerians.

The civil war was a Nigeria Vs Biafra war, it was NOT an Intertribal war between Hausa and Igbos with Yorubas siding with the former as many mischievous commentators on NL try to portray it.

Nwakaumu:
Thank god you ve accepted that yoruba joined hausa to kill igbo.but how can ojukwu stay in his region when you allowed and harbored hausa soldiers to use lagos to launch attack on igbos,do you know anything about warfare.ojukwu never went to attack yoruba otherwise a yoruba man banjo would not ve appointed to lead the attack,ojukwu's plan was to incapacitate the nigeria's command and control headquater,lagos.stop twisting history to suit your purpose of propogating falsehood ,the ignoble role yoruba played in commiting genocide against the igbos shall never be forgiven

From what I have heard (mostly from Igbos), the Majority cof the peoples of Rivers State (Ikwerre, Etched, Ekpeye, Ndoki, Ogba etc) speak Igbo as their mother tongues but they deny their 'Igboness' because the Igbo were defeated in the civil war, they want to Curry favours from the FG ,they want to belong to oil producing State etc.

ritababe:
60%? lol u are funny.

But they always insist that Port Harcourt is Igboland (which has now be renamed IgweOcha) and that Igbo constitute about 60% of the population in Rivers State.

ritababe:
voting kor voting right ni?

so for your mind you think the migrant are more than the rivers people because u see them on the road everyday? lol bro Abeg think like adult.

God bless you sir.
1) IPOB need political power to effect political changes.

2) However, this move can be a double edged sword. It can be IPOB's strength and undoing.

3) If IPOB managed to get her members elected as governors, senators, reps etc, within 2 years, they will lose their Goodwill and popularity and the reason is simple.

4) Defenders of the masses, Freedom fighters, revolutionaries are loved and have enormous goodwill but these do not conferred on them administrative skills and experience in governance...

5) In the face of dwindling resources 'IPOB governors' will also face the problems of paying months of salaries and pensions arrears, road, markets and hospital construction etc...without a magic wand

cumbak60:
IPOB should form a political party and drive the agenda of Biafra through the legislature....

Now you are talking.
1) IPOB alone can't amend the constitution to accommodate referendum and a secession clause.
2) To achieve their aim, IPOB will need strategic alliances with at 4 geopolitical zones akin to the requirements for winning a presidential election.

3) IPOB has abused and insulted every other ethnic groups, labelling them cowards, parasites, betrayers, traitors, saboteurs,lazy, bastards etc.
It will be difficult to secure their cooperation and support towards the attainment of these goals.

cumbak60:
A journey of a thousand league begins with a step. Constitutions are made by humans, and so is subject to amendment. The Nigerian constitution is not an exception in this regard. The part of war is not an option, not now nor tomorrow.

Both Sudan


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mansakhalifa:
@oyatz By "they",who exactly do you mean?

Eventhough, i am in support of a United one. Nigeria but if Igbos insist on seceding, allow them, unity is like marriage ,it can't be maintained by force.

Biafra will heavily depend on the Zoo for at least, the first 10 years, so Nnamdi KANU and IPOB methods of insulting every non-igbos will attract more enemies for Ndi-Igbo.

wristbangle:
Cool.. hoping to see biafra come on time as well but Nnamdi method is not diplomatic at all.

No matter how bad the relationship maybe, biafra would still need the external relationship of Nigeria for trade and investment.

But they have voting right in River State...when the referendum come, you will see how they will help to swing the votes in favour of Biafra

ritababe:
they are not from rivers, those are migrants from aba working in PH e.g bus drivers and conductors plus road side hawkers.

Stay there, when the UN come to conduct referendum in Rivers State, the Igbo residents there will all vote for Biafra and it will be counted that Rivers State has voted for Biafra.
If IPOB work hard with good strategies, they can win Rivers for Biafra.

God bless Rivers State,
God bless Biafra,
God bless Nigeria

Ever8054:
those are the Igbos who are base in rivers state...you can still see thousands of them in kano shouting we want Biafra... mumu people

Which language do they use in schools?

mansakhalifa:
I guess whoever put this article forgot countries like Somalia,Afghanistan,Pakistan, Eritrea and the likes. Infact,dozens of countries would have made this list. Even South Sudan that has English as its official language would have made the list. Someone I know who has been there once told me that outside of Juba,there are very few who can communicate in English. So,why these few countries?