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Why not list their shares on the Nigerian stock exchange?

Why not you?

DONGOYARO1:
Would this translate to efficient service delivery?

I wish a Nigerian industralist can just buy up the company

I think you and IPOB should start by preventing Anambra State from going to the zoo capital, Abuja to collect federal allocation every month.

ChimaAdeoye:
The time has come for all Biafrans to act together and stop the continued pumping of oil out of the region to fund those who use the money to oppress Biafrans.

Once the oil flow stops, Nigerians will sit down and negotiate a fair association and a more stable and equitable federation

I have always thought like this, it very likely Nnamdi KANU will support a governorship candidate at the last minute,to install a pro-Biafran Governor in Awka government house.

Ispiksdatroof20:
Well, if you don't have an election, you don't have Senators. If you dont have senators, you have no one to push for Legislation authorizing a Referendum. If you don't have a Referendum and you want Biafra, your only other route is to get what you want on the battlefield.

I hope you guys are ready because you are not thing this through. My bet though is that, Nnamdi Kanu will play a fast one on the Ibos, form a political party at the very last minute by claiming thats the only way to actualize Biafra, get voted into the National Assembly then start sharing Nigerian money with the rest of the Nigerian Politicians.

He has this all planned out well and only a f0ol can't see where this is all going.

You have listened to sheer propaganda for so long that it has started affecting your level of reasoning.
1) The €20 was for the Biafrans to start afresh, a very rare privilege and not a right as you wrongly assume

2) The indigenization policy, much like the present local content policy is NOT a case of 'buying and selling' of foreign firms.
It was a policy aimed at forcing the foreign firms to open up the ownership structures of the companies to Nigerians, especially by listing them on the stock exchange.

3) Those who were disadvantaged in the purchase of shares of the newly listed foreign firms in 1975 can still purchase the shares in 1985 or 2017 just in the same way Nigerians who couldn't build houses in 1980 when a bag of cement was being sold for #2 are building houses now ,even when the same bag of cement now is being sold for #1500.

4) Stop listening to propaganda

naijaking1:
Fair competition I said, not rigged competition like giving some people only 20 pounds after the war and you expect them to buy bank shares

Okay, I now understand the situations better.
Even though, I know that the electricity generating stations were built after independence, I have for long wondered the sources of electricity supply in colonial Nigeria.
Thanks bro for providing this piece of Vital information which many Nigerians don't ever know.

Rossikki:
The colonialists provided electricity to select communities, usually middle class/colonial-inhabited parts of big cities..(the places we call GRAs today). They used huge imported generators which guaranteed 24/7 power, but had very limited coverage. Total national capacity was about 200 megawatts. A national grid wasn't actually built until after independence, together with real power stations.

These people who can be dragging the ownership/control of Lagos (which is about 500Km from their home states) with the Yoruba, which a more majority tribe than them, they will ruthless disposes the Ikwerre, Ijaw, Ogoni,Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiris, Oron, Erik etc of their lands/resources within 50years and there won't be any majority tribe to Countercheck them.

They have already in their maps, named Port-Harcourt Igwe-Ocha, Opobo (Igwe Ngwa), Bonny (Ubani) etc

Rossikki:
OIL THIEF... Frustration for other peoples' oil is no way to live your life.. Why don't you and your ilk use your famed entrepreneurial ability to transform your region, instead of looking for south-south oil to steal, under the guise of fake ''brotherhood''?

Ole.

God knows the south-south will never fall for your manipulation. They saw how you called Lagos 'no man's land', and they KNOW that if you can be so bold to do that hundreds of miles away from the SE, you will do much worse with the south-south, if you get your chance. They know you call them drunkards behind their backs.

''Special Brothers'' to drunkards by virtue of crude oil.

Edo-Urhobo-Isoko, Igbo-Ekpeye-Ikwere, Yoruba-Itshekiri-Igala are all related.

oyatz:
This is a classical display of a dangerous blend of arrogance and ignorance.
1) All over the world ,related languages have similarities and variation in their pronunciations and does not mean, one language is an adulteration of the other e.g hospital (English)= hopital (French), Wilhelm (German)= William (English), Louis (French)= Louis (English), Night (English)= Nacht (German).

2) If two or more languages are related, it doesn't necessarily, mean the language with the less speakers (population) descended from the language with the more speakers (population), the reverse may even be the case e.g its possible Igbo language descended from Ekpeye, Ogba or Ikwerre Languages or all the sister Igboid languages descended from a common ancestral language which is now extinct.

Igbo kwenu,
Nigeria Kwenu!

Rossikki:
Igbos have intermixed with millions of people across Nigeria. We don't need oral tradition to see that. What makes the south south different, Madam Love Nwantiti?




You ''think''? Sorry, I prefer facts.




Until you conduct DNA tests, you are in no position to state that.

Excerpts:

"I was first given the idea that Yoruba and Igbo must be genetically related when a childhood friend, Ogbonna told me that words for some well known body parts are virtually the same in both languages. For instance, Yoruba Imu/ Igbo, imi which means nose. There is also Yoruba eti/Igbo nti which means ear. Also Yoruba enu/Igbo onu which stands for mouth. Other examples abound like Yoruba orun/Igbo onu meaning neck. And so on and so forth.

Much later in life, at the university, I was to learn in Language class that Igbo and Yoruba and many other African languages are members of the same language family. Those are members of group languages which all developed out of a common ancestor or a parent. And in the very distant past, these languages were no more than mere dialects of the original language".

https://www.nairaland.com/574377/how-yoruba-igbo-became-different


More Igbo - Yoruba Language similarities

Goat: Ewu(igb), Ewure(yor)

Cat: nwologbo(igb), Ologbo(yor)

Rock: Okwute(igb), Okwuta(yor)

What: Gini(igb), Kini(yor)

Where: Ebe(igb), ibi(yor)

Pouch\bag: Apka(igb), Akpo(yor)

Box: Apkati(igb), Apkoti(yor)

Medicine: Ogwu(igb), Ogun(yor)

Fever: iba(igb), iba(yor)

Acrobatics: Nkpokiti(igb: i remember nkpokiti dancers), Gbokiti(yor)

Dog Bark: gbor(igb), gbo(yor)

Akara - akara(igb), akara(yor). I think this is modern word, can't say it's igbo or yoruba

Moi moi - mai mai(igb), moi moi(yor). Also a modern word.

This is a classical display of a dangerous blend of arrogance and ignorance.
1) All over the world ,related languages have similarities and variation in their pronunciations and does not mean, one language is an adulteration of the other e.g hospital (English)= hopital (French), Wilhelm (German)= William (English), Louis (French)= Louis (English), Night (English)= Nacht (German).

2) If two or more languages are related, it doesn't necessarily, mean the language with the less speakers (population) descended from the language with the more speakers (population), the reverse may even be the case e.g its possible Igbo language descended from Ekpeye, Ogba or Ikwerre Languages or all the sister Igboid languages descended from a common ancestral language which is now extinct.

Igbo kwenu,
Nigeria Kwenu!

derealj:
People of the so called "Niger Delta" are the most confused set of people in Nigeria, but am not even in the mood for their shenanigans. I have only one thing to beg you people, it is enough that some of you chose to answer Igbo names while claiming non Igbo. Fine but if you want to answer those names answer it correctly not the adulterated forms in your bid to transform our names into another thing. Answer Nwogbo not Wobo( it even sounds like zobo). It's Ezenwa not Ezenwo. Answer Nwanne not Wene( don't know if it's short for Wednesday ). That's all I want to say., if you people cannot do this please answer names from your tribe ( If it exists ) or you can go and adulterate Yoruba names and answer(Take a cue from one minister from that region ).

Capital NO...Self interest is ingrained in every body both individually and collectively. Only an insincere person will deny this.

Rossikki:
Here's another question, gentlemen. This time, a hypothetical one.

If the Igbos' homeland was the Niger Delta, and that of the south-south groups was up in Igboland, would the Igbos have invited them to join Biafra?

Eh en, don't mind some bad people jare. Igbos are loved in Nigeria and are doing well every where even in Ile-Ife.
In Ile- Ife have never heard of Yoruba-Igbo war but u have seen several Yoruba-Igbo relationship.

Amarabae:
That I am a Rivers indigene from an Igbo stock, Proclaiming my Proudly Igbo root is a problem to a guy here whose profile location is Ile-ife.
Had it been I denied being Igbo, he would have been happy.
What a hate filled Igbophobic backward country.
Sense fall on you!
If not that I am already happily married,
I would have preferred marrying a Non-nigerian.
The hate in this country is something else.

Liar spotted!

baddooboys:
Ask them if they have heard of any Igbo state dragging land with SS before...

in a normal sense, why will two state be sharing a community...

Just imagine..

Egbema is in Rivers and Imo state.

Ndoki is in ABIA and Rivers state...

And all these are oil producing communities...

If it were to be Afonja or aboki....they would have been dragging the community..

Igbo's are business minded, they do not have time for oil or what so ever

What was the source of electricity used in Nigeria between 1897-1960?
Who constructed the railways, Posts &Telegraph (NIPOST &NITEL)?
Apapa ports, ports of P/Harcourt Warri,calabar,Koko?

Rossikki:
South Africa is ''way way better than us'' because unlike in Nigeria, the white colonialists reinvested into the local economy the monies from export profits right from the first day they took over that country in the early 1820s.

Because they was a very large white settler population there. Attracted to the country by its temperate weather I guess. They saw the country as their own. So they built the first university there in 1829. The University of Cape Town.

University of the Witwatersrand was established in 1896.

Stellenbosch University 1903.

University of Pretoria 1908.

The same British at the very same time in Nigeria, were busy on a very different trajectory based on total extraction of natural resources and very minimal input back into the Nigerian economy. This was how they functioned till the likes of Nnamdi Azikiwe, Obafemi Awolowo, and Peter Enahoro among others said, ENOUGH.

And thankfully so.

It was only after they left that Nigeria began trying to develop. Establishing our first university in 1962.

Our first power station 1964. Kainji Dam.

South Africa's first power station? Try the 1880s!!

I mean, how the hell do you expect Nigeria and South Africa to be on the same technological or even socio-political level?

It's like comparing a man to a child. They started long before we were even on the map. They've been producing highly trained engineers, scientists, urban planners, doctors, architects, jurists, politicians, pilots, technicians, and bankers in their thousands for at least a century before we started in Nigeria. Once you study the history of both nations, you see it makes no sense comparing ourselves with them.

What we need to do is just respect ourselves and move forward as smoothly as possible. But don't expect us to function as efficiently as South Africa anytime soon, because the truth is, we're still learning how to build a modern nation, compared to them.

This post is very childish... There are industrious and enterprising people in every tribe.

Which epidemiological studies, conducted by reputable researchers arrived at this relationship?

dawahlarry:
You are still out of the fact that all the bad effects he listed are rampant in countries where ladies open there bodies. Southern Africa, Oceania and North America report the highest numbers of rape. Google is your friend for more information and clarifications. So it is not by increase in population but increase in unclad ways ladies walk around nowadays.

All the alleged bad effects of 'civilization' you wrote about has been with man since time immemorial.
Increase in population has brought about increase in the frequency of such vices but they didn't start recently as you wrongly assumed.

[/quote][quote author=skolab4 post=58538717]hey,,,even though is a veil, u Christians has refused to accept that it is good to cover once head as a female but only applicable to the Islamic doctrine,,,,come to think of it,,,,,,head cover,veil, hijab, kimar, Jalibab are all the same but only different in size, and shape.. The truth is it is not good to leave your head (particularly hair) uncovered, as well as the chest where someone can easily take a glance at ur boobs,breast or cleavages which make some people cover from head to chest.(you know what exposing boobs has done to the society now which you call civilization,,, RAPE,ADULTERY, prostitution, FURnication, juveniles delinquency, divorce, single parenting, marriage imbalance,infidelity,leading to all sort of atrocities in the civilized society.

Give this bros 3 bottles of origin.

nelsont1:
Idiots... Corruption and murder are no crimes for Allah.... he only cares about nudity.

Thank you my brother, may God continue to increase your wisdom.
1) Wearing of hijab is a dress code, a purely cultural practice
2) Hijab wearing Muslims girls are just like other girls, they engage in all kinds of sins that girls of that age groups commit like formication and adultery, abortion etc
3) In predominantly Muslim societies, even prostitutes wear hijab... It doesn't connote Godliness.

impossible27:
lol. u are busted. Wearing of veils by Nun is a church tradition. where is it written in the bible? decent dressing dosent mean wearing of veil.

@ bold. I can't count how many times i fvcked a girl on hijab during my sec school even till date (I can swear with my life on that). wearing hijab dosnt make them holy either. they are just hipocrite.

Liar!
Where in the Qur'an did Allah mandated Muslims to wear hijab?
1)Hijab is more of a cultural dressing code than a divinely ordained dressing code.
2) The early Muslims didn't wear the hijab
3) The use of hijab predated Islam by thousands of years.

Its better you read the history of the hijab

mojeedajao2017:
It would be good if you can shed light on what you defined as fanatism. Does obedience to one's God mean fanatism? Praise be to Allah we are not poor in my family and we practice what our creator commanded and insha Allah we will not forsake the path as a result of what many ignorant people say. Obedience to islamic ideology is for people of understanding and piety and not for people who have lost focus in the name of civilisation.

There is nothing really bad in this dressing nau...the only one ,I may slightly object to, is the daughter sitting directly in front of Saraki (on the left) but these daughters are in the UK (not Ilorin) and their dressing reflect their environment.
God bless you, beautiful daughters

tosin400:
Some Muslims seem to have a problem with the clothes daughters of the Senate President, Bukola Saraki, wore to their brother's graduation in the UK, last Thursday.


See some of the comments dropped under a post published by IG Wala below:


Source: http://www.flexygist.net/2017/07/16/they-are-enemies-of-islam-facebook-users-criticize-bukola-saraki-and-his-daughters-dressing/

cc; lalasticlala

What's the use of including ethnicity in Nigerian census data?

Abagworo:
The telecoms estimate is more accurate than any other we can ever think of. During census many Igbos in others States do come back to swell the population because Nigeria refused to include ethnicity. A significant number of those that swell the Northern and SW telecom users population are ethnic Igbos.

Let every body contest and let the best man emerge ( he/she may even be from Kanuri, Nupe,Edo, Oron,Karekare, Angas,Bariba or from Taraba)




[q uote author=TonyeBarcanista post=57127477]
Bro, this is one blackmail that can never move me.

Yorubas only recently occupied the Presidency for 8 unbroken years and VP for 2 years (and counting) of the 18 years of this dispensation. The North were begged to allow Jonathan in 2011 (which naturally should be their turn in the interest of equity and justice), while the Southeast is yet to produce a VP not to talk of the Presidency.

If you are fair you should be championing a northern Presidency and Igbo Presidency if you are for the interest of the South.

This is justice, Nigeria belongs to all of us.[/quote]

There was NEVER a sovereign country call Biafra.If you think otherwise, name the kings/Presidents of Biafra, its Capital, currency ,borders, wars fought /treaties signed with other countries

1) The term Biafra has been in written documents for over 300 hundred years as a name used by Portuguese and other European explorers to refer to areas along the West African coast between Benin and the modern day Cameroon.


2) The term Biafra did not refer to a particular country or people just as Niger-delta doesn't refer to a particular country or ethnic group.

hamilton62:
Pls where is Biafra from this official site of Presbyterian Church with their history?


PROFILE OF THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF NIGERIA
1. ORIGIN: In April 1846, at the invitation of the two kings of Calabar, a team of missionaries from the Church of Scotland Mission, led by Rev. Hope Masterton Waddell, arrived Calabar where they set up the first congregation of what is now known as The Presbyterian Church of Nigeria.. From Calabar, the Church began to grow. In 1858, it was constituted as the Presbytery of Biafra. This Presbytery of Biafra metamorphosed into the The Presbyterian Synod of Biafra in [1921. The Church continued to witness remarkable growth until 1945, when the Presbyterian Church of Biafra was constituted, with the Synod as its highest court. In the same year, the white missionaries handed over the Church administration to Nigerians. The Presbyterian Church of Biafra became the Presbyterian Church of Eastern Nigeria in 1952. By 16th June, 1960, the Mission Church integration was completed and the Church changed its name to the Presbyterian Church of Nigeria. In 1985, the Syond met in Afikpo and agreed to create Regional Synods with the General Assembly as the highest decision making body. This decision materialized on the 22nd August, 1987, when the General Assembly was inaugurated at the Duke Town Presbyterian Church, Calabar. After the creation of the General Assembly, two regional Synods were created in 1988. These were the East and the South-East Synods. As at today, the Presbyterian Church of Nigeria has nine Regional Synods.

http://presbyterianchurchng.com/DynamicPage.aspx?pageid=21

From the above, Biafra and Nigeria who existed first?
Is the then Cross River, presently Akwa-Cross where?
Yes, Biafra.

Pls learn your history otherwise you are lost... and that means a linage which is yours is down the route of ignorance because your progeny is sure...

You must not love or suppose biafra because of ill and doctored stories told to you but that doesn't stop you from being a biafran till you vote for yourself and merit it... We are humans and not animals...

If the referendum is conducted in Delta state and the 'igboid' groups voted for Biafra but the majority Non-Igbo Deltans (Urhobo, Ijaws,Isoko ,Itsekiris etc) voted against Biafra, that mean the Igbo part will not be Biafra?

steppins:
Keep[center][/center] deceiving yourself. You've been shouting we are Niger Deltans since you opened this account. The more you do it, the more I see someone from a different ethnic group trying to claim what he's not.
A delta senator can claim what he likes, but I still know he's not speaking for the Igbo communities.
Until the Igbo communities in South South come out to deny Biafra openly, every other denial is trash.

Your over reliance on the UN to walk straight to a sovereign country and conduct referendum for a breakaway part is funny.

1) Israel has unleashed violence on Palestinians several times and the UN hasn't gone there to conduct an independence referendum for the Palestinians.

2) Uighur ethnic group of Xinjiang province of China have fought war and have been in constant crisis with China since 1960, yet the UN has not walk to China to conduct referendum.

3) please name just one example where the UN just stroll to a sovereign country to conduct independence referendum for a break away province.

steppins:
We packed out before, but the northerners and your people won't let us be.
They chased us down to the East and started a war that lasted for 3yrs.
Right now, they're doing everything to start another war, which we don't want.
We just need them chase the igbos out with violence, so we'll have tangible reasons to present to the UN, for a referendum.
We're waiting.

This is the typical biased stereotype, many southerners have about the North.
1)You don't feed the North sir, on the contrary the North feed your peoples from Lagos, Ogun, IMO, Enugu, Cross River, Delta to Rivers States.

2) Northern part of Nigeria is not a desert like most parts of Chad, Niger or Mali, as many arrogant and ignorant Southerners wrongly assume.

3) The only thing the North need is to embrace western education on a massive scale (many young Northerners are now very educated)... The North is Nigeria's sleeping giant.

Shroud:
In all honesty Nigeria is tired of the north.

You're just another Niger republic loading if Nigeria disintegrates. You're backward, uneducated, lazy, economic spongers and leeches and totally uncultured.

Pedophilic brutes with no work force to even fill up your state ministries and schools. Who is fooling who?

The other regions have been the ones feeding you like giant babies latched onto a giant feeding bottle.

You don't have to do anything that will injure
the pride of Igbo.
Even,if you don't support it, don't antagonize it (this is the new principle , my new found Igbo crush and I agreed on)

Victornezzar:
Leave dem
Dey want 2 claim rainbow again
Dey wer busy labelling me as an afonja cos I don't support dis scam

She is 100% Igbo ,100% IPOB and a strong anti- Afonja ( even though, I really like the babe)

dlondonbadboy:
Afonja...shut it!

You don't have to over exaggerate it...and at the end make mockery of what God has already sactioned.
BIAFRA would come...whether moon or no moon.

Are you human at all? Where is your conscience and humanity?
This is someone's mother, wife ,sister and daughter in the prime of her career, suddenly murdered in cold blood by unidentified assailants and all you can do is to bring tribal bigotry and politics into this unfortunate death...

BlowBack:
These vultures can not wait for Buhari to be declared dead before they start exporting their violent politics to Abuja

The thread is about Biafra, not Lagos.

BiafraIShere:
You're smart, why will you guys allow cave dwellers from olumo rock and those red roof mud houses to share the wealth of Lagos with you when you can easily become Africas first developed city state like Singapore or Hong Kong. If I'm awori I'll not allow others to come and exploit us when they have nothing to offer!

IPOB should be happy, Biafran UN sponsored referendum is getting the support of the Northeners.
Igbo kwenu!

Cjrane2:

They could have asked The President of Ghana or Cameroon to grant the referendum.When their people control the Nigerian Federal Government.

Who are they deceiving?

What are you really trying to bring out sir?
1)Every one can trace their lineage nau and there is no crime or any controversy about that

2) Ethnic identity is a self identity, you can NOT impose it on anyone or group of people

3) Ethnic identity/ethnic or tribal group is not fixed, it changes over the generations.

4) Senator Fatai Buhari (APC, Oyo North) trace his lineage to Fulani migrants from Sokoto , the Soun royal family of Ogbomosho trace their ancestry to Bariba tribe but today, they are proud Yorubas.
There are so many families ,including royal families in Ondo, Ekiti, Lagos and Osun States there Bini in origin.

5) The Oputa family in Oguta, IMO State and Zik trace their origin to Bini but today, there are Igbos

6) A fraction of the people in Ilorin are now culturally yorubas but have a part Fulani ancestry ,may be 12.5- 25% Fulani (their great great-grand father may be Fulani, Hausa, Nupe or Bariba).

So if Senator Olushola Saraki said he is Fulani, let's respect his choice of identity.

This happen every where all over the World, The Tudor royal family of England is of Welsh origin , the reigning Queen Elizabeth ( Real family name is Saxe-Coburg-Gotha) is of German ancestry.
The Bourbon Royal family is from France

igbodefender:
No be me talk am. Na Bukola Saraki father Olusola Saraki talk am. See am below:

Pa Dr. Olusola Saraki: Warts & all • Yes! I’m Fulani from Mali • Why I never served military govt 

By FEMI ADEOTI Monday, August 17, 2009

Dr. Abubakar Olusola Saraki, elderstatesman and chairman, Northern Union (NU), has spoken as never before. He practically opened up for close to two-and-a-half hours when he met with a group of selected journalists at his Abuja home recently.Sarakihttp://odili.net/news/source/2009/aug/17/514.htmlHe answered every question as much as he could, and clarified some “knotty” issues. He talked about his “real” origin, past military governments, why ex-civilian governors of Kwara State always rebuffed him after installation, NU, collapse of ex-president Olusegun Obasanjo’s third term agenda, etc.Excerpts:

Real identity: My mother is from Iseyin in Oyo State, while my father is from Ilorin in Kwara State. My great-great grandfather originated from Mali and I am talking about some 150 to 200 years ago. And they are Fulani and that is where we got our Fulani connection from. My great grandfather settled in Ilorin preaching the religion of Islam. A section of Ilorin came from Gwandu and they were religious, but my people came there as practising Muslims from Mali with their own Quran. In fact, the Emir and I used to joke that we had our own Quran and that nobody gave us Quran.

My great-grandfather brought our own Quran to Ilorin from Mali to Agbaji where we settled. The Agbaji quarters is about 200 to 300 years old. Over the years, religious piety and devotion have led the prohibition of drumming (in whatever circumstance) in the area.But because of our connection with the Southern people, a lot of Yoruba are always in Ilorin and so we speak the same language.If you look at the Ilorin people, the real Ilorin people like Saraki for example, the culture and their ways share affinity with those of the far Northern Nigeria.

That accounts for the difference you observe between us and, particularly, people of the South-West, despite the existence, now, of Yoruba as a common language. I leave people to say whatever they like about me. Some people even say I am from Ogun State and some even say I am from Togo but I know where I am from. Even, not long ago, I had a letter inviting me to join in the formation of a Mali-Fulani Organization and that I should be its chairman.