₦airaland Forum

Before Abaribe, they was an Arthur Nzeribe and his ABN that played critical roles in the annulment of the Jun12,1993 election.
Later they will be complaining that other Nigerians....

spiralwedge:
Senator Eyinanya Abaribe (Abia South), had raised a motion that the country had no President or Acting President at the moment, adding that

Name checkers, where una dey? Food don land.

You see why these people can't be trusted in Nigerian politics?

What an opportunist and cowardly traitor! Instead of using his privileges to address issuea facing his people, he's trying to set the Senate up.

He is even dumb, how did he get there? So, when a president goes abroad for an official assignment, the seat is vacant? How daft?

Never let the Igbo smell that presidency please. And let them go. Can't deal

Iya clap for yourself.

BuddhaPalm:
Because the VP is an ordinary commissioner...

Are there Yoruba PDP members?
Are Gov Fayose, Bode George, FFK etc Yoruba or Igbos?

PointZerom:
I said it yesterday that this is a planned game just to test the waters but some Afonjas were insulting me. The truth is that Saraki is more of PDP member than he is to APC this informs the reason why a PDP sinator was first to move the motion. It baffles me that some Yorubas are still seeing Saraki as a Yoruba man. PITY.

My parents spent money to educate me and I have since graduation been spending money to
continually re-educate myself and you are here demanding that I should be educating you for free on Nairaland?

misano:
All U have written please support it with reputable sources. If you can't then I have no time for U.

No, the Yorubas are 0%.

Hopeful20100:
THE REST ARE 45%, AND YORUBAAS ARE 5%

Most people in Nigeria wrongly assume that Nigeria or various tribes of oil producing region own oil, this is not true at all.

1) The oil companies ( mostly foreign) own the oil.
They went to borrowed billions of dollars from reputable financial institutions, paid for prospecting licenses, drill and extract oil, sometimes from the depth of the ocean and sell the crude oil while paying an agreed percentage of the proceeds to the federation account.

2) The knotty issue is that they pay whatever they like because, Nigeria doesn't have the technical capacity to determine the actual quantity of oil they extract...this illustrate the superiority of knowledge over ignorance.

3) When Nigerians, especially the Niger deltans militants shout 'our oyel' they don't know that the oil is only theirs in name but in reality, the oil companies own the oil.

4) The best way for these oil rich region to fully achieve resource control is through ECONOMIC means.
Let the Governments and peoples of the Niger Delta float their own oil companies, sell shares to foreign technical partners, sell like 10% of the shares to other Nigerians in companies that will be publicly quoted on the stock exchanges in Nigeria, London, New York or J'burg and start businesses.. They can't lose, they have comparative advantages over the Northerners and Afonja they love to accuse of undue benefit from oil.

5) If they must be genuine peace in the oil rich Niger Delta region, I expect sensible FG to deliberately encourage direct participation of the Niger Delta peoples in the oil industry ...militants won't be blowing oil installations if Delta, Bayelsa States Governments, Tompolo, Edwin Clark, GEJ, Asari-Dokubo & other potential trouble makers are part owners of oil refineries scattered across Akwa-Ibom , Bayelsa,Ondo to Delta States.
The FG can even give out money to workers in the oil companies to buy shares in the oil companies while repayment is done by monthly minimal deductions from their salaries over 10years, so when they retire, they become pensioners-shareholders...you won't like to sabotage a company where you are eating and also co-owner.

6) The youthful energy, mental capacity and financial resources used in Militancy can take Nigeria to a new height if properly channeled to productive ventures.

Its like you are impervious to reason.
1)I said no city/State develop because of a single factor and gave you interaction of factors but you keep shifting the goals, shouting oil money now, then claiming its the FG and now the British later.

2) Lagos has been a maritime city for over 500 years, this factor make it a destination for many peoples from diverse backgrounds; Portuguese, British, Germans, Americans, returned slaves, Arabs/Muslim missionaries and peoples from other African empires/kingdoms

3) Through out history, areas that are receptacles for diverse peoples often provide fertile grounds for cross fertilization of ideas, exchange of skills and articles of trade with improved civilization.

4) The peoples and leaders of Lagos made and are still making tremendous contribution to the development of the city... Whether you are willing to give them credit for it or not doesn't detract from this fact.

5) The British only settled on Lagos Island, a very small part of Lagos state... It wasn't the business or interest of the British colonialists to develop Lagos or Nigeria as a whole, colonialism was an economic venture!

6) The old federal capital was limited to only 5LGAs (Lagos Island, Lagos Mainland, Eti-Osa, Apapa and a part of Surulere) and it is not exactly the same as Lagos state.
Ikeja, Mushin, Shomolu, Epe, Oshodi etc were never part of the federal capital.

7) The Federal capital has been relocated for over a quarter of a century ,yet Lagos has developed more than when it was the capital.

The South south States and Kano State receive
great fund from 'oil money' than Lagos.

Oil money alone doesn't explain the development of any city/country.
Both Brazil and Nigeria are oil producing countries but Brazil is ahead of Nigeria virtually in all aspects

Get education, read about political economy and the history of Lagos with an open mind.
Cheers.

misano:
You just said it, you fell into my trap. As U said,



And who were the leaders?

U answered it urself




The British (NOT YORUBAS) made Lagos so fine that it became the capital of Nigeria. From the moment it became the capital of modern Nigerian it started enjoying oil money.

You heart is evil

edoyad:
One day we would do this to people like Saraki, Ortom, Yahaya Bello, Atiku, Yerima, El Rufai, Okorocha, Amaechi, Oyinlola, Melaye, Dogara, Andrew Yakubu, Diezani and their kind. After that we would be better for it

No city/ Statedevelop because of one single reason and development is not static, it is very dynamic... That's why a fishing village of Dubai in 1960 can be a World class city in 2017.
Lagos' development is due to a complex interraction of the forces of its GEOGRAHY, lts people &leaders and Political fortune.

Why was Lagos made the Capital of Nigeria upon almagamation in 1914, why not Onitsha, Port Harcourt, Benin city, Warri or Ilorin?..


Aug 6,1861: Lagos treaty of cession signed between the British Government and Oba Dosunmu of Lagos, so Lagos already had British administration between 1861- 1914 (53 years) and was more developed than the rest of Nigeria.



Before 1914, Lagos had street lights, drainage systems, telephone, electricity, postal services, hospitals, schools, churches & mosques, shops and a fairly educated populace .

Get education, read widely, be an informed mind...its in your best interest.

Cheers.

misano:
Where did U come from? U just keep beating around D bush.


Prove that Lagos state did not get its first development from being the capital of Nigeria. I said Lagos got its development from being the capital of Nigeria. If U can't prove me wrong & U write one long reply that doesn't answer my question then U are goat. If don't reply me at all then U agree with me.

God will punish all those who are propagating false hate messages

Well, its not my fault that those who drop out from SS-1 to become apprentice to spare parts traders at Ladipo market can't understand economics
1) I am not a tribal bigot but it may interest you to know that
(a) Free education in Nigeria started in Ibadan in 1955
b) Free Maternal and child health services started in Ibadan in 1955

c) First television station in Africa, Western Nigeria Television, WNTV, Ibadan in 1959

d) First housing estate in Nigeria, Bodija estate, Ibadan in 1956

e)First modern stadium in Nigeria, Liberty stadium,Ibadan in 1960

f) First Sky scrapper in Sub Saharan Africa, Cocoa house, Ibadan in 1964.

g) Odua textiles was built in Ado-Ekiti in the 1950s before any textile factory in Lagos

2) Lagos is NOT Ekiti/Ibadan and Ibadan or Ekiti can NOT be Lagos... Every town/State is unique.

3) Akwa-Ibom, Rivers and Delta States receive greater federal allocation than Lagos.

4) Your understanding of development and oil economy is grossly limited.
5) Get education sir, its never too late

misano:
Chai, U just make me weak.... I will tell U something here, Lagos is what it is today because of one major reason. It was one time D capital of Nigeria. Just like Abuja is just fine & developed with oil money that same way Lagos was developed with oil money. If U think I'm wrong tell your people to make Ibadan, and Ekiti the next Lagos.

The investments of Dangote, Abdulsamad Rabiu and T.Y Danjuma dwarf the investments of Igbo's in Lagos and I have never seen a northerner shouting they own 50% (abi na 85%) of the economy of Lagos or declaring that Lagos has become a no man's Land.

laudate:
I agree. But for every Igbo man playing a role in the economy of Lagos, there are several other Yoruba, Hausa, Efik etc., businessmen also playing similar roles within the state economy. It is not restricted to just one tribe.

The problems with people like you is that, you get high with a dangerous blend of politics, tribalism, ignorance and pseudo-economics.
Politics and tribalism (sustained on ignorance) mix well but but not with economics.
1) The oil companies HQs are not even in Nigeria to start with.
2) If Nigeria divides to whatever number, the oil in the Niger delta will still have to be drilled, explored and exported by those who have the capital, technical experience and managerial capacities, not necessarily Ijaw,Itshekiri, Ogoni or Ikwerre tribal chiefs or militants... This is the reason why we still depend on multinational oil companies to extract the oil in Nigeria.

3)Oil companies don't have to be in only countries that have crude oil
Are you aware there are many crude oil refineries in India and Singapore with out one litre of crude oil?
Oil refineries are like cassava processing mills, they can be located anywhere in as much as the owners can get cassava from any markets to process... Oil refineries can purchase crude oil from international market ,refine it and sell the products anywhere they like, it doesn't have to involve Niger Delta.
4) Otedola deals with downstream sector of the oil I.e importing and distribution of petroleum products...bombing of oil pipelines will rather increase his wealth because electricity supply will drop and more people/companies will depend on (Imported) diesel to run heavy duty generators.
5) Distingeration of Nigeria will make Lagos richer than what it is now...its a topic for another day/post.
Cheers

misano:
1. I'm not Igbo by tribe.

2. I don't believe relocating HQs will make Niger Delta any better because D Niger Deltans used their own hands to push these companies out by bombing & kidnapping D expatriate workers.

3. Lagos state is what it is today because they have always had good leaders, that use their allocation to build D region.

Now answer my questions. If Nigeria did not have oil will these oil companies be existing? If they divide Nigeria today will all those HQs not return to Niger Delta? Will the Lagos state be able to enjoy the oil tax from the oil companies? If Niger Deltans start blowing up oil pipeline will Otedola not feel it financially? If Nigeria is divided today will those Nigerians & government official that have oil blocks still have it?

I will say this again, directly or indirectly, every region has gained and will continue to gain from the Niger Delta oil.

Please sir, get education
1)Your assertion is not correct.
2) Oil is a commodity of trade and there is no crime is investing in the oil business.
Even after disintegration, those people will still be in oil business just as foreigners still dominate Nigerian oil industry.
3)Not every oil is Niger Delta oil.
Importation of diesel and kerosene from Venezuela, Brazil or Morocco and distributing it all over Nigeria have nothing to do with Niger Delta oil... Even every body in the Niger Delta depend on IMPORTED OIL
4) Stop listenin to Radio Biafra, sart your own oil companies and stop complaining
Cheers

BigIyanga:
And Otedola's main source is ND oil. Mike Adenuga's primary source of wealth came from ND. Folawiyo's major biz is ND oil. Fola Alakija's source of wealth is ND. So to dismiss ND's oil is wilful ignorance

In one stand, you accuse Yorubas/Lagos of monopolizing ports activities and in another you claimed only the FG can regulate ports activities.
Which one should we believe now?

Fearlez:
and you're liking America to Nigeria, a place of naturalised oddity!

In Nigeria private individuals or firms do not make the rules. The body in charge of ports in Nigeria is the one and only Nigeria port authority (NPA) not even state government can meddle in this.
Everything, from airport, to seaport and railway system is Government exclusively. Not in America where Government lias with private institutions in research and partnership. The only times Government here are prepared to collaborate with private institutions is in double taxation of the citizens.
I believe the systematic neglect of other ports in the country is a deliberate move borne out of propaganda and fear of the unknown.

So, why not attract oil companies to your State or encourage your people to invest in their States?
Capt Iheanacho is building an oil refinery in Lagos, Cosmos Maduka's Coscharis and Infanyi Ubah's Capital oil have tank farms in Lagos , why can't you force /order them to relocate to Onitsha, Okigwe or Nnewi?instead of shouting oil companies should relocate their HQs to some States or complaining that Lagos has snatched your cake?

misano:
Where did U hide ur brain. Did I say it's a crime to run an oil business? What I'm saying is that, the tax an oil company will pay in Nigeria is more than what a transport or entertainment or any other industry will pay the government.

You are now awake to reality.

misano:
You missed my point. What I'm saying is dat all regions have gained directly or indirectly from D Niger Delta oil. Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo, Ijaw, Edo, Tiv and the rest have gained from it. Hope U get my point.

Where did Infanyi Ubah makes his wealth? What of Capt Iheanacho?

misano:
Don't mind dat guy. Otedola pays tax right from oil money, Forte Oil. If his father was not a governor, Otedola would have been nothing. Read his story & U will see how politics & oil money made him, Dangote & Alakija what they are today.

Its not a crime to have wealth from oil.

misano:
After your long reply U missed my point. Here is my point, his wealth still comes from oil. Like it or not.

God bless you sir.

laudate:
Why are you so bitter? Nigeria has 4 international airports, in case you do not know. But it isn't your fault. You abandoned your studies to sell electronics at Ogbete market. Now repeat after me: Murtala Muhammed Airport in Lagos, Nnamdi Azikiwe International Airport in Abuja, Mallam Aminu Kano International Airport in Kano , and Port Harcourt International Airport in Omagwa, Port-harcourt. Akanu Ibiam International Airport, Enugu was upgraded and given the status of an international airport, when your sister Princess Stella Ada Oduah was Aviation minister. Do you remember?

Most embassies have moved to Abuja which is the commercial capital of Nigeria. A few countries however have consular offices and deputy high commissions in Lagos. now are you still following the tutorial? Good.

The banks and oil companies have their head offices in Lagos, but that is not the fault of Lagosians. It is because Lagos remains the commercial capital of Nigeria, and a financial hub. Now, what exactly was stolen from your state or region, and given to Lagos? And what stops the governor of your own state from calling others to come and do business in your state?

Please sir, get education.

1) Oil is a commodity of trade just like steel, timber, cotton, diamond, limestone etc.
2) Many people investment in the oil &gas industries and its never a crime to do so...you you invest be it in transportation (like ABC transpot), Trading (Like ChukwuNonso &Sons) or oil (Like Ondo), you do so to reap profit.
3) Foreigners (ExxonMobil, Chevron, Elf,Total and Agip) still dominate the Nigerian oil industries and you don't complain but you want to convulse because fellow Nigerians are investing in MARGINAL oil businesses.
4) Stop listening to Radio Biafra ,get useful to yourself and your generation... Start your own oil company.
I wish you good luck!

misano:
Don't mind dat guy. Otedola pays tax right from oil money, Forte Oil. If his father was not a governor, Otedola would have been nothing. Read his story & U will see how politics & oil money made him, Dangote & Alakija what they are today.

Your comment sound like the typical complaints of unsuccessful members of (usually polygamous) families who are quick to accuse the successful siblings of unduly benefiting from their parents money used in educating the successful siblings while they make sacrifices by not going to school!

Odingo1:
SW are hypocrites,very soon Lagos nyash will be open, Nigeria as big country with almost 180 million people has only one viable international airport in lagos,one sea port in lagos,all embassies in lagos apart from Abuja, oil headquaters in lagos,bank headquaters, yet yorubas are not satisfied and be calling others names for coming to lagos to do business after other states have sacrifice what belong to them for lagos.

Answer a fool according to his own foolishness, or he will think himself to be wise: Prov26: 5


1) Nigeria is NOT a Communist country or under Military rules where things can be done with out regards to the Law.
Under, which law will you order a private company to open its HQs in a particular place?
2) Please, get educated... Its in your own good interest

Nonaira1:
All this long story to do what?

Facts remain you leech of SS through those oil companies hence your leaders refuses in hell to allow them go back to SS. Asari is 100 percent accurate in what he said.

Which freedom fighter Continue to deceive yourself that Asari-Dokubo, Tompolo and other Militants are fighting for the N/Delta.
In which way has their 'freedom fight' improved the GDP, educational or health systems of the N/Delta States?
Asari-Dokubo wanted to invest in education, he established his university in Cotonou, not Niger Delta.

MrOdyssey:
And why exactly was he bursting and vandalising pipelines?. you don't beat a child and expect her not to cry.

Good one Asari. you are the real definition of a freedom fighter. No one changes anything in these contraption without some level of madness.

Please sir, get education.
1) If you are importing diesel (from Morocco, Venezuela or Brazil) to 60% of diesel consumers in Nigeria, don't you think you will be rich with having anything to do with South south?
2) Stop listening to Radio Biafra propaganda, be useful to yourself and your Country, start your oil companies and locate the HQs in your town.
Cheers




quote author=Debatesmartly post=58058482]. And where does otedoma gets his money from ? You guys are too dumb isnt it south south oil?[/quote]

Mr Man, get education please.
1) Oil companies, like all other private companies have rights to run their business (in a legal way) anyhow they like and have the right to have their HQs anywhere under the sun just like you can't order Innoson or Champion newspapers or Ekenedili Chukwu to locate their HQs in a particular State.
2) The oil companies (Chevron, ExxonMobil,Shell, Total,Agip etc) HQs are actually in America,Paris ,Amsterdam and London.
What they have in Nigeria are operational offices.
3) Nigerian oil companies are still crawling behind these multinational oil companies.
4) Petroleum marketing companies like Ondo, MRS, Forte oil and independent marketers only buy petrol from large scale importers or they themselves IMPORT from Venezuela, Brazil, Morocco and distribute across Nigeria... Most of them have nothing to do with Niger Delta.
They are ordinary private companies, they can locate their HQs anywhere.
5) Stop listening to propaganda on Radio Biafra, You too can start your oil company and site the HQ in your Town.
Cheers

Nonaira1:
Yeah Yeah Yeah just like OSUN had the largest GDP and doesn't need oil money until allocation reduced and the truth of una loud mouthing was exposed. Considering that your brethren is the leader of the statistics aspect of the government, I don't believe one single sh1t that emits from there known the level of propaganda that hails from you lots.

Like I said, if you lots believed the crap you rant, your people would have long supported the call to rent the oil companies HQ back to SS in addition wouldn't try to disrupt each company that did try to return their HQ to the state they drill from. Instead narrating of Canada, Brazil, etc did, we want to see it done here in Niggeria.

When badly educated traders are weaned with hatred and propaganda, they assume they are intelligent.

Nonaira1:
That's a well known f2king fact.
Why do you think they destroy every attempt by any oil companies HQ that makes plan to move back to SS.

Lagos to me is the biggest leeches. If yoruba so believe that they solely made what it is as they claim, why is that rest of SW looks like a piece of sh1t whom the government have to treat like an IDP camp.

Let's test a theory, let every oil company HQ migrate back to wherever they drill their oil from. Close down every non yoruba companies in SW and have them return back to each region they hail from, then let's wait and see the progress of Lagos.

You can't legislate the type of sexual intimacy between two consenting adults, you may not like it but that's the plain truth.
I don't subscribe to it but I know it happens every day and most adults fantasize about experiencing it at one time or the other... Almost every girl/woman sometimes wish to experience it but only the bold and daring ones summon enough courage to ask their Boyfriends/husbands to do it for/with them.

farihafaheemah:
Why anal sex for God sake, it's an abomination pls desist from it

This is good news

Why are you people celebrating and promoting baby mamaish as if its an achievement?

Very correct but trying anal sex while pretending is bad ooo, you can can cause her peri-anal laceration and if done repeatedly and roughly can damage her anal sphinter...feaces can be leaking uncontrollably.
If you must do anal sex ( I don't encourage it), you must both agree and plan it together to avoid unintended side effects.
Cheers