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jaxxy:
we are still saying thesame thing. iNEC would have noticed the discrepancy immediately with bvas if any such thing happened.

How can sm1 even be given double ballot paper infront of other officials and voters?

Seems u don smoke.

You seems quite naive and ignorant of how elections are rigged in Nigeria.

In certain towns/villages where a party has maximum support, even agents of the opposition parties can easily be compromised or overwhelmed to allow the dominate party have it's way.
In Ede, people were voting till 7-8pm on the election day.

Dwizeone:
What about you downloading a video or watching a video as it is being downloaded and it starts buffering and stops because of bad network, ordinarily, you can’t finish the video and must wait till network improves to download the full video. It is only after completing the full video download can you say you have downloaded the full video. So yes, some data can be transmitted and some left out, it is very possible

this line of argument is very lame:

1) INEC wouldn't have been able to declare a winner 48hrs after the election if all the data have not been uploaded from the BVAS.

2) INEC knew that the BVAS report uploaded to their server was to be used as evidence in court before issuing out the CERTIFIED TRUE COPY to the petitioner, so to now come one month after the elections and be saying you want to add to the data and 'synchnonize it' seems very much like manipulation and after thought.

[quote author=jaxxy post=120502117]I said the issue is from INEC not over voting. U cannot over vote with BVAS and it won't be detected by INEC that same day or b4 they announce the final results.

it is impossible. [/quote ]


it is very possible: some people were accredited by BVAS once but they were given double ballot papers to thumbprint

Yankee101:
Databases are updated from time to time and change daily
It your transmission load is heavy and your connection is slow, a data set may take between seconds and days (or weeks) based of how much (gigabytes etc) it is. ( If you’ve ever tried to download a heavy movie you’ll have noticed this in action)

So wait for all results to be transmitted and database updated (or synchronized as INEC put it) before making judgements.

An inec that can’t communicate this in simple language and judges who know nothing about data, computers or transmission will only result in half baked judgements.

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1) INEC have ICT Department, manned by experts, they wouldn't have produced CERTIFIED TRUE COPIES of the BVAS reports if they haven't been uploaded to the server.

2) If there is going to be uploading in batches, it will be that some polling units are uploaded while some haven't been uploaded NOT that 50% of the Polling unit-A is uploaded on July-18, 30% uploaded on JUly 30 and the remaining 20% of the data for the same polling unit-A uploaded on Aug 17. . .the latter scenerio is suggestive of manipulation.

3) INEC couldn't have been able to declare the results by 48hrs after the election if BVAS hasn't finished uploading the results.

raybaba97:
It doesn't even make sense
How did they declare a winner then? If the results hadn't finished transmitting...

Wow

if INEC goes to the Appeal court with this line of argument, then the PDP will lose again.

Okoroawusa:
Why is no one decamping to Labour Party ?

Madam Eunice who lost in APC primaries for House of Reps seat in Enugu has decamped to the Labour party and she is now the Labour party candidate for Apapa Federal Constituency,Lagos State.

Then ,Omote Biafra should lead by example.

Faiththatworks:
Although I feel very sad about the outcome of the Tribunal,but there are certain facts that must be established.
Gov Oyetola's argument has always been hinged on overvoting in some local government especially in All the Ede Local government councils.
According to a report I read from an election observer group,voting continued until around 7 to 8pm in some local governments in Osun State.
The inec law is irrefutable about all voting stopping by exactly 4pm,any vote cast after 4pm is deemed illegal,infact it says only accredited voters are allowed to vote,and accreditation of voters stops way before the voting ends.
My humble submission to Gov Adeleke is to go back and find a way to tally the figures he had by 4pm on election day in all the local government in Osun. The Bvas should have the figures if what inec tells us is true.
I'm not a lawyer but I daresay no court in Nigeria will allow the final figures put forward by Gov Adeleke to stand.
He should preferably argue that the over voting should be deducted and not the whole cancellation of polling booths as these would amount to disenfranchisement of a lot of voters,or push for a rerun in those cancelled polling booths.
Either way this case looks really hopeless for Gov Adeleke,this is a clear message to politicans who want to rig in next month Elections,bvas will stop you if you dare try to inflate your figures.
God bless Nigeria.

Most Nigerians comment on Issues they don't have knowledge about.


There won't be further arguments or evidence at the Appeal Court to support or refute the petitions.


The case will only be judged on whether the ruling of the Tribunal is in accordance with the laws or not.

NewNg1:
The only issue I have with this coming Election is the CJN (Chief Justice of Nigeria)

Ever since his ascension and appointment was approved, I have not been comfortable.

*Labour party has to win this election with a clear victory or else the supreme court will want to upturn it*

His becoming the CJN has serious political undertone and calculations.

*We need to sit up please*

People like you approach every matter from emotional standpoints.

Have you read the Judgement of the Tribunal?

Did the CJN participate in the Election Petition Tribunal?

oz4real83:
how about Ambode that envisioned and started the project?

Fashola actually started the project.

PresidentAtiku:
suffer never do you?

Did the PDP end suffering in their 16year rule? Did Peter Obi end suffering in Anambra State?

donproject2:
Nope, he is expecting vote of SS people who are APC, case settled?

You people don't understand so many things.

1) Nobody live in the past and hoping to make differences in the future. The 2015 election is gone, forget it and move on, even Jonathan and the Ijaws have moved on. They are now cutting deals for the future.


2) You people approach political issues with emotion but most realistic people approach politics with INTERESTS.
There are many people in the S/South contesting elections on the platform of the APC who know that if Tinubu wins, it will greatly increase their chances of winning too, so they will work to deliver their wards,LGA and States to the APC so also are APC members who hope to get appointments under a Tinubu/APC as Ministers, Ambassadors, Chairmen of FG Boards etc.

3) There are certain vested interests in the S/Souths like Tompolo, Asari-Dokubo and so many Ex-Niger Delta Militants, FG contractors, Traditional Rulers and so many party members who stand to gain certain favours from the ruling APC. They are backing Tinubu/APC ,not necesarily because they love Tinubu or hate Peter Obi/Atiku but they are more concerned in securing their interests.

So holding on to the politics of the 2015 elections permanetly won't solve their problems or protect their interests in the future.

4) Then there are people who appreciate one or two things done by the APC e.g completion of the Itakpe- Warri Railways and several highs in the South-South who will vote for the APC.

PresidentAtiku:
Lol

Have you factored in hunger in the land?

Do you realize that some people maybe scolded on election if seen talking about APC not to talk of voting for them as national level?

Which political party will end hunger in the land?
'People being scolded talking about APC' is figment of your imagination.

Didn't you see crowds at APC rallies?

The assumptions that your party will win because people will or should hate your opponents is a very weak electioneering strategy.

SadiqBabaSani:
Those who think Ameachi’s regrets are minor don’t know the former Rivers topman. Amaechi wanted far more than just Minister, Ameachi just like Baba Colombia connect wanted the Presidency, for his greed he felt Gej was too inadequate and calculated that should a Buhari (Northerno) take over, he Ameachi would have a chance to become the President after Buhari. As two Time DG of Buhari campaign, he alone would tell someday the many evil tricks tht harvested them victory at the Presidential polls in 2015 and 2019

Not only Amaechi, several other citizens also want to be president but only one person can be president at a time.

The presidential ambition of Jonathan is not more valid that the ambition of Amaechi or any other citizen.

Citizens supporting different political parties is NOT betrayal or is Peter Obi betraying Atiku/PDP by contesting for the 2023 presidential election.

Evaloyal2J:
They used amaechi to build standard railways in their backyards and even extended the railways to their neighbours. But dumped him after destroying only railway that cross his region.

What exactly did Jonathan do for the South-South?


Amaechi supervised revitalization of the Onne Port,Rivers State and the construction of the Itakpe-Warri Railways for the S/South.

owobokiri:
What if the youth are just 10%? Are you saying that the older generation are so comfortable with the status quo that they will prefer to vote for either the PDP or the APC? So once you are older, you start to loose every sense of decorum and decency, and as such will prefer to have your tormentors permanently fixed at your back to whip you till eternity? They want to buy fuel for 800 naira per liter?

The older generation don't believe that the man who left APGA for PDP and just decamped to Labour party (seven months ago) necessarily have solutions to all these problems.

PresidentAtiku:
Yes he worked against PDP but PDP is the party that gave their son the platform. APC has the chance to give Amaechi but refused. So they will revenge on the party that worked against their son’s government. Tinubu, Fashola do Jonathan shege. Even the dunce Fashola say any serious government will fix power in 6 months yet has not fixed it in 8 years. Foolish rocket science minister of darkness fashola

You don't understand how elections are won and lost.

1) There are many APC stalwarts with their supporters in the S/South.
It is NOT just Tinubu that is contesting but the whole APC.

2) There are many people who will want certain things to be done for their communities by the APC.

3) Politics is about interests ,not emotion.

Many people in the S/South will negotiate for their interests and vote for the APC rather waste their votes on parties that won't win.

HIGHESTPOPORI:
As far he doesn't make 25% on any SS states with his Muslim Muslim ticket, we are okay

The APC will have at least 40-45% in Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa-Ibom States

Failure44:
Oga shut up your mouth

The goat meat you eat
They don't have viruses?
Rubbish

Goats are very different from humans so their viruses can't survive very well in humans.

This is VERY wrong sir.

This was how HIV started.

The DNA of this animal and the DNA of humans are very close and as such their viruses can survive in humans and transform into more virulent viruses.

Simian Immunodeficiency Virus present in Apes jumped from the blood of these Apes into human blood through cuts sustained by hunters while killing the Apes and transformed into Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) around 1900 in some villages in The Congo

PrincessofDSS:
Have you ever witnessed an assassination of a loved one before?? If you have not, then you won’t understand the hope that PETER OBI represents to the SOUTHERN KADUNA PEOPLE

Assassination is an inappropriate word to use here.

Kobonaire4:
So pdp is not an evil party anymore? It is not like apc anymore?

You obidients are not serious.

At the end, like apc, like pdp, like lp.

Labour party= PDP Lite

jumper524:
Jonathan won kebbi in Northwest and taraba in North east.
He could win those places largely due to structures.

Jonathan won Taraba but was defeated in Kebbi.

However,it will be very naive to be comparing Jonathan, running as an incumbent president on the platform of the PDP with Peter Obi running on the platform of the Labour party outside of power with no single elected Labour party member in the country.

PrinceOfLagos:
Yoruba Muslims are just about 5% of kwara population

You are wrong sir.

Yoruba Muslims are not more than 2% in Kwara.

beejaay:
see this mugu.. the same ilorin wey i dey and where im from..election wey never sure for anyone, the same election that the state house of assembly will be shared among all, the same kwara that even the gov is not sure for rahman.. make una dey dull una sef..

Peter Obi will win nothing less than 75% of Kwara.

Kwara is in the bag for Peter Obi.

Penguin2:
Hahahahahaha!

They cannot fit try it.

Look at them snapping one side one side pictures.

Are you sure we have not been wrong all along for thinking Tinubu will win Kwara?

Suffe no dey tire una?

Peter Obi will get at least 75% of Kwara.


Kwara in the bag for Peter Obi

Obaofaba:
You and I know that obi stands no chance.

At best he's a spoiler to Atiku, even saraki confirmed it.

A vote for Obi is valueless than a rejected vote.

Where and when did Saraki confirmed just rumour?

Shikini:
Only wicked enemies of Nigeria will listen to this man and not fall in love.

This country will be great again
.

We don't need the wicked enemies for anything sir.

The votes of non-wicked Nigerians is enough for Peter Obi to win the presidential election

Reader530:
Imams are preaching all over the north that:
1. Tinubu is not a complete Muslim and his vice is Kanuri (minority tribe) amidst Hausa&Fulanis.
2. Voting Kwankwaso is a waste of vote.
Frankly speaking, Tinubu will win Borno and Yobe only in the north.
Kwankwaso will get 45% in Kano, Atiku 40% and Tinubu 12%. Even in Kano, many people agree that Voting Kwankwasiyya is a waste.
Atiku will win north central because most people in searching for Reps and senators in PDP may vote for Atiku.
I am North Eastern OBIdient but lack of structures and support to create awareness to our people reduce the number of our followers.
I am saying nothing but the truth as North stands. Even in Yobe rally for APC that was held at Stadium along Maiduguri road, Damaturu was not full like Buhari's campaign in previous years.
Thanks

This simply shows that Peter Obi will win in the North.

JASONjnr:
Like you rightly said....

The division is in favour of the north.

But the Yorubas will rather support the north because, a good number of Yorubas are Muslims and they're very attached to their religion more than the region of southernness...

This is why, majority of the Yorubas believe that either as a Muslim or Christians, Yorubas stand as one....and because they speak in one voice, their support for the north will always sell them off any support for the south.

SouthSouth and East can't work alone except the country is constitutionally divided to share power into zones...

After the election, hatred from all sides will gradually fizzle out remaining hatred for the FG.

Raheeqilmaktoom:
Nobody has any problem with an Igbo president, certainly not the north. But you don't expect people you've been calling names for no reason other than your candidate lost for the past 8 years, people whose values and way of life you've always looked with disdain to be excited by your mob attitude towards a candidate that hose very basic governance qualifications are in doubt.

With time, particularly with this election, they will learn how not to do like that.

Raheeqilmaktoom:
This is where the problem comes in.

Coexistence shouldn't come at a price where people and hosts are denigrated and their values impugned. To coexist, we need to acknowledge each other's uniqueness, not seek to dominate and emasculate.

Yes, you are right.


Nation building takes time. After this 2023 elections, lessons will be learnt and some of those nasty behaviours will be seen to be counter-productive and everybody will adjust accordingly.