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[quote author= post=115314041]APC narrowly won Lagos 2019 , now with economy turmoil, insecurity, ASUU strike, endsars killing and with the new electoral law, I can say good bye to APC in Lagos presidential election[/quote]About 133, 000 differences in NOT narrow sir

Penguin2:
In his last interview with Arise TV, Atiku sounded like someone who had everything figured out and hence confident of victory.

But I’ve been cracking my head to see where Atiku is really expecting his votes aside his native Northeast and some states in Northwest, where else is Atiku sure of votes.

To buttress this point, I will tell you what happened when I boarded a Uber in Lagos. It happened that the driver is from the Igbo speaking area of Delta State. We got talking and talks got to politics and he revealed that he’s card-carrying member of the PDP. But guess what, this man told me clearly that he’s support Peter Obi for the presidency.

We were still analyzing his reasons when he got a call from a certain ‘Segun’ who he addressed as “my corrupt officer”. After they exchanged banters, my Uber driver now cunningly told his caller that in the forthcoming election their support is for Tinubu since they are all Lagos boys. But surprisingly, Segun interjected and said “it’s Obi o”. In the end they concluded that for governorship, Senator, Rep, etc, they are voting PDP, but they are voting Obi for Presidency.

When he was done with the call, I now asked him which of the Southwest States Segun is from and guess what my driver told me, Segun is from Kogi State. He’s Okun. The part of Kogi that speak Yoruba. I got to find out that they both belong to PDP but they are both not voting Atiku for the presidency. I asked my driver if he relates with people at home in Delta to know their opinion too and he told me categorically that everybody in Delta is Obidient and dismissed Okowa’s influence.

I’m not telling you this for you to believe; I can only tell you the truth, but not force you to believe it.

Now the question is, how many PDP card-carrying members are like my driver and Segun? How many southerners and MiddleBelters are like them?

So far in the electioneering process, it has been become increasingly obvious that Southeast and Southsouth, a traditional PDP region, is gone with Peter Obi of Labour Party. Again, due to Christian sentiment and for want of competent candidate who would be different from the norm, most North Central states of Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa and FCT seem to be leaning towards Obi. Taraba in Northeast is also looking Obidient. Then you add Southern Kaduna, Southern Bauchi, Southern Gombe, etc. let’s not forget that Christian sentiments might also guarantee Peter Obi about 30% of Southwest votes.

Tinubu on the other hand is looking to do well in Southwest irrespective of the negative sentiments that his Muslim-Muslim ticket has generated amongst Christian voters in his native southwest region. Similarly, a state like Kwara, who are more Yoruba than northern, might also swing to Tinubu. Again being the candidate of the party in power, it is expected that president Buhari and the northern APC governors will work to deliver some votes of the core northern states for Tinubu. Again, with his running mate coming from Northeast, Tinubu is expected to take Borno and Yobe in the region.

Kwankwaso is looking strong in Kano. Some people say Jigawa but I don’t know about that and can’t say it.

Then, there is Atiku. As of today, Atiku can only boast of votes from Adamawa, Bauchi, Gombe and Taraba in his native Northeast. Borno and Yobe are most probably gone with Shettima of APC. Then in the northwest, with Kano gone with Kwankwaso, Atiku seems to be looking strong in other states of the Northwest of Kaduna, Katsina, Sokoto, Jigawa, Kebbi and Zamfara. But that’s where it ends. Where else is Atiku sure of votes in Nigeria. We may concede he would garner some votes in Delta because of Okowa but I can place a bet that Atiku will not win Delta. Just like his percentage of votes in the entire southern region will be too insignificant to be significant.

Therefore, I throw this poser to Atiku supporters and those who like to claim that the upcoming election is between Atiku and Tinubu to tell me where Atiku is expecting his votes.

Penguin is a bird of reason!!!

Lalasticlala
Mynd44

Many of you don't understand how presidential elections are won and lost.

By law, practice and in reality, political parties contest for elections in Nigeria.
The elections are like Soccer Tournament and the contestants are like different competing Teams.
The candidates are similar to Captains of the different teams.
This is why on the ballot papers, there won't be Atiku , Tinubu, Peter Obi or Kwankanso but the names and logos of political parties.

On the date of the presidential election, each voter will be given three ballot papers to thumbprint for the parties they will be voting for in the REPS, SENATORIAL and PRESIDENTIAL elections being simultaneously conducted. Most Nigerians will thumbprint for the same party for the 3 elections.

Don't rush to reply to this post but think deeply about the implications.

Penguin2:
In his last interview with Arise TV, Atiku sounded like someone who had everything figured out and hence confident of victory.

But I’ve been cracking my head to see where Atiku is really expecting his votes aside his native Northeast and some states in Northwest, where else is Atiku sure of votes.

To buttress this point, I will tell you what happened when I boarded a Uber in Lagos. It happened that the driver is from the Igbo speaking area of Delta State. We got talking and talks got to politics and he revealed that he’s card-carrying member of the PDP. But guess what, this man told me clearly that he’s support Peter Obi for the presidency.

We were still analyzing his reasons when he got a call from a certain ‘Segun’ who he addressed as “my corrupt officer”. After they exchanged banters, my Uber driver now cunningly told his caller that in the forthcoming election their support is for Tinubu since they are all Lagos boys. But surprisingly, Segun interjected and said “it’s Obi o”. In the end they concluded that for governorship, Senator, Rep, etc, they are voting PDP, but they are voting Obi for Presidency.

When he was done with the call, I now asked him which of the Southwest States Segun is from and guess what my driver told me, Segun is from Kogi State. He’s Okun. The part of Kogi that speak Yoruba. I got to find out that they both belong to PDP but they are both not voting Atiku for the presidency. I asked my driver if he relates with people at home in Delta to know their opinion too and he told me categorically that everybody in Delta is Obidient and dismissed Okowa’s influence.

I’m not telling you this for you to believe; I can only tell you the truth, but not force you to believe it.

Now the question is, how many PDP card-carrying members are like my driver and Segun? How many southerners and MiddleBelters are like them?

So far in the electioneering process, it has been become increasingly obvious that Southeast and Southsouth, a traditional PDP region, is gone with Peter Obi of Labour Party. Again, due to Christian sentiment and for want of competent candidate who would be different from the norm, most North Central states of Plateau, Benue, Nasarawa and FCT seem to be leaning towards Obi. Taraba in Northeast is also looking Obidient. Then you add Southern Kaduna, Southern Bauchi, Southern Gombe, etc. let’s not forget that Christian sentiments might also guarantee Peter Obi about 30% of Southwest votes.

Tinubu on the other hand is looking to do well in Southwest irrespective of the negative sentiments that his Muslim-Muslim ticket has generated amongst Christian voters in his native southwest region. Similarly, a state like Kwara, who are more Yoruba than northern, might also swing to Tinubu. Again being the candidate of the party in power, it is expected that president Buhari and the northern APC governors will work to deliver some votes of the core northern states for Tinubu. Again, with his running mate coming from Northeast, Tinubu is expected to take Borno and Yobe in the region.

Kwankwaso is looking strong in Kano. Some people say Jigawa but I don’t know about that and can’t say it.

Then, there is Atiku. As of today, Atiku can only boast of votes from Adamawa, Bauchi, Gombe and Taraba in his native Northeast. Borno and Yobe are most probably gone with Shettima of APC. Then in the northwest, with Kano gone with Kwankwaso, Atiku seems to be looking strong in other states of the Northwest of Kaduna, Katsina, Sokoto, Jigawa, Kebbi and Zamfara. But that’s where it ends. Where else is Atiku sure of votes in Nigeria. We may concede he would garner some votes in Delta because of Okowa but I can place a bet that Atiku will not win Delta. Just like his percentage of votes in the entire southern region will be too insignificant to be significant.

Therefore, I throw this poser to Atiku supporters and those who like to claim that the upcoming election is between Atiku and Tinubu to tell me where Atiku is expecting his votes.

Penguin is a bird of reason!!!

Lalasticlala
Mynd44

Many of you don't understand how presidential elections are won and lost.

By law, practice and in reality, political parties contest for elections in Nigeria.
The elections are like Soccer Tournament and the contestants are like different competing Teams.
The candidates are similar to Captains of the different teams.
This is why on the ballot papers, there won't be Atiku , Tinubu, Peter Obi or Kwankanso but the names and logos of political parties.

On the date of the presidential election, each voter will be given three ballot papers to thumbprint for the parties they will be voting for in the REPS, SENATORIAL and PRESIDENTIAL elections being simultaneously conducted. Most Nigerians will thumbprint for the same party for the 3 elections.

Don't rush to reply but tink deeply about the implications of this.

ogbuefi677:
That is afonja muslims for you
One phone call from the their masters in Sokoto caliphate, story go change

But Oba Oyekan was neither a politician nor a Muslim

beejaay:
you are a very big fool i swear..one time you will calling for tribal unity and how bad tribalism is and other time you will be one championing the cause of tribalism spewing hate everywhere and when they give it to you, you return to default mode asking for end of it...the people wey do u this thing don die we for go beg them

Saying they will be here very soon doesn't involve any tribe.

There are many people from many different tribes who abuse ,insult and curse Tinubu on Nairaland.

Gandollar:
Who were his college buddies in Government college Ibadan?
You are showing us old pictures when the current ones are everywhere.

What exactly is your point?

If Someone is less than 10 years older than Dele Momodu in 1996, he won't be 20 years older than Dele Momodu in 2022.



People get sick and emancipated (especially after surgery) but they also recover.



Note: All these your efforts won't stop those who will vote for Tinubu from doing so or make them to vote for your preferred candidate.

It's better that you change strategy and intensify campaigns for your preferred candidate

Kabirudeen25:
Oga this is not a campaign of whatever, neither is it a polling unit. It's just a simple question. How old is Tinubu?

What do you want to do with his age?
If a man says he was born in 1952, unless you have superior evidence that that date of birth is wrong, it stays put.


Here is a 1996 picture of Tinubu and Dele Momodu on the Streets of London.

Tinubu is not upto 10years older than Dele Momodu.

Ex-Gov Rashidi Ladoja and Sen Akinyelure were Tinubu's senior colleagues in the Oil Industry. Both are 77 years of age

Thanksful:
He meant, the League is dominated by black and black Americans who has Nigerian origin.

OT

Oga, rest.

What Peter Obi said was wrong information (100 players out of 150 NBA players are Nigerians, meaning Nigerians make-up two-thirds of NBA players!)



There's no need to twist it or defend it. Peter Obi gives alot of Statistics that have been proved to be wrong.

Most of these guys don't learn from mistakes of the past.

Campaign of calumny against their opponent doesn't translate into votes for their candidate.

ezechi242:
We gave a total illiterate the power he couldn't control..,.how can a blind man lead 200 million intelligent people that are not blind...,.and some fools are pushing for a blind ..def and dumb man to take over from this total failure ...any time I think about Nigeria my heart skips.

Relax, your preferred candidate will win and stop all these problems.

sukkot:
hmm i have to admit tinubu is the best of the worst. atiku is bad and obi is bad. they both have no achievements whatsoever. so what can a man do ? do like me and dont vote for anybody

Vote for Dr Rabiu Musa Kwankanso

newbornmacho:
How can a Muslim take over from buhari ?
How ??

Anybody that wins will be sworn-in.

So it's better to avail yourself with the opportunity of having a respected man of God and a Bishop as the Vice-president.

DispatcherLagos:
I always knew churches are politicized and to a very high extent tribal.
Imagine the silence of the "owners of these churches"
Redeem christian church of God
Winners
MFM
Deeper life
Etc
Just because Tinubu is Yoruba like them, they've all gone mute on this

They are now rooting for Dr Rabiu Musa Kwankanso who has chosen a Bishop as his running mate.

newbornmacho:
I have to agree. The yoruba Christians in politics have been a disappointment. Just look at fayemi, akeredolu etc all rooting for a Muslim after 8 years of Muslim rule.
Ok how about the clergy? What is adeboye saying? Nothing! Not giving the church direction Because it's not an osinbajo or some other yoruba on the ticket .

I'm totally disappointed

Vote for Dr Rabiu Musa Kwankanso, his Deputy is a BISHOP!

NwaIdeato:
The SW due to their greed for power have unwittingly sold the North a perfect ace card to use and politically dominate Nigeria for a very long time...by agreeing to the Muslim/Muslim ticket, the South West have now given the North the impetus to dare Nigeria and even float a North/North ticket in the nearest future...after all if we are seeing a time in Nigeria's political history when a Muslim/Muslim ticket is allowed...who's to say the North will not attempt a North/North ticket soon? And who will stop them if they do?

Honestly yorubas are the biggest problems we have in Nigeria, now the indigenous Northern Christians have seen through the dishonesty and duplicity of the yorubas, the South South are now disengaging themselves from yaribas...the few poor Yaribaa Christians are helpless and silent...the entire South and Middle Belt are now cutting off the SW...we're seeing a political dynamic where the only friends of the SW will be the core Northern Muslims against the rest of Nigeria

Bros, start campaigning for Dr Rabiu Musa Kwankanso now!

Kwankanso's running mate is a BISHOP and this will protect Christianity in Nigeria.

ottersberger:
The true facts are the other way round. Akande was supplying Lee Andrew Edwards.

Tinubu was a clear accomplice in a drug and money laundering case involving two Nigerians – Adegboyega Mueez Akande and his nephew, Abiodun Agbele.

While Tinubu escaped arrest and prosecution by effectively masking his role in the drug cartel, evidence of funds lodgments in his bank accounts allegedly established him as a kingpin of the narcotics trade.

The drop-off point for packages from Nigeria that contained white heroin is the same address given by Tinubu and his wife Oluremi when they opened money market accounts to receive payments he claimed to originate from Akande, who was the cartel's boss. Tinubu admitted Akande was his cousin.

The 1.8 million dollars Tinubu claimed were paid to him as emoluments for an offshore assignment in the UAE by Deloitte checked out untrue and was indeed the sum of monies he lodged into his account on behalf of Akande.

We are Nigerians and we know who is lying. Tinubu na confirmed gbana man.

If Tinubu broke US Laws on drugs, he would be arrested immediately, tried and jailed.

What David Hundeyin and his ignorant followers are saying is that 'they are more competent than the US agencies in catching those who break US laws'

GardenOfGod:
Just listen to yourself... In law, anyone that aid crime commit the same crime....
Correct me if am wrong

If the US through her Embassy in Lagos clear Tinubu of any crime in the US, do you think a disgruntled pseudo-journalist cum blogger called David Hundeyin can convict him of breaking US laws?


You may hate Tinubu but think deeply about this.

Prince111111:
na so Una dey cry before Osun election too

Okay, you are right, Peter Obi will win the presidential election in Osun State.

Abujason:


Dream on.
APC and EBola Yekini Amoda Ogunlere Tinubu is not going anywhere.

Okay, sorry.

Peter Obi will win Osun State in the presidential election.

Iamzik:
Be deceiving yourself
Naija people go clear Una doubt

Okay, Peter Obi will win Osun State in the presidential election.

adecz:
Osun people have shown that they
are not interested in

⏩Cassava
⏩Agbado
⏩Corn

In morning, afternoon and evening❗️❗️

But APC will still win Osun in the presidential election.

Iamzik:
In a country with electronic collation system on the internet INEC announcement is just for formality

Everybody knows the winner already

But INEC did a good job with this Osun election.

Adexxi:
This is malady na , na dem go spoil Tinubu chance in southwest. You can't keep attacking me and expect me to vote your candidate

Na Atiku go win the S/west

venabili:
In saner climes, the Press would have called this election by now. The data is available of INEC website for simple collation.

Weak journalism

In Saner climes, ONLY INEC can announce the results of an election

Iamzik:
Lol See for yourself what is happening in osun despite APC sharing money.

Buhari hardship has reset the brain of most voters

It's not about sharing money because both APC and PDP shared money.

The Osun people aren't satisfied with the Oyetola Administration.

kingmekus:
Ehya, it seems you are the ignorant one here, so just like that he forfeited his hard earned money?
Anyways you can check the documents independently and you would see NARCOTICS RELATED CRIMES boldly written, no be every body stupid for Naija.
So I will just forfeit my money if it is not crime related, I weep for una

Take time to read the story well and ask lawyers about the technical areas.


Parts of the money was forteited in a civil judicial forfeiture without any conviction.


Suppose you are schooling in ABU, Zaria and one of your uncles or pastors or even Neighbours in Lagos send #50,000 to your account to help him by a Donkey in Zaria.
However, a week later ,the sender was arrested among a group of Yahooyahoo boiz and during investigations,it was discovered that you live in the same building in Yaba, Lagos and he even sent #50,000 to your account.
Parts or even whole of your account can be seized but this doesn't necessarily mean that you are convicted for Yahoo Yahoo Internet crime.

kingmekus:
Lol, stop crying try and open the article, you will see the documents duly stamped and sealed where your idol went into a plea bargain and forfeited a large amount to the US before he was released, it's still on their Judicial server till date, so stop talking like an ignoramus that you are, We need to start prioritizing Education because some of you really have nothing upstairs.

People like you aren't well educated and always react based on emotion rather than logic.


The court order was about forfeiture and not a court trial for drug crimes.

If Tinubu is involved in drugs crimes, the only plea bargain he could get was for a shorter jail term.


People like you who believed that Buhari actually died in 2017 and was replaced by Jubril Al-Sudani can easily believe that you can buy your freedom in the American judicial system on drug crimes by simply forfeiture of money!


Bottomline: The US never convicted Tinubu of breaking their laws, Blogger David Hundeyin can NOT convict him on his blog.

JosephXavier:
It is not about being gullible here

In US justice system, there is what is called plea bargain IMG

That was how Tinubu forfeited about $1.8m dollars to negotiate his freedom

Too much ignorance on display. You can NOT buy your freedom in the USA if you deal in drugs, the best you can get is a lighter sentence if you can name other accomplices.

There were people who are real drug barons in the case, they were arrested and jailed.

The only link was that one of the guys was connected to Tinubu by paying money into his account and the money in Tinubu's account was seized. Tinubu himself was not arrested or even tried for drug.

However Tinubu challenged this seizure but a truce was reached where he forteited about one third of the money.



Bottomline, Tinubu was never arrested not charged to court let alone convicted.

It's funny seeing blogger David Hundeyin saying that the US didn't bother to try Tinubu because he was in the NADECO fighting Tinubu in 1993 when NADECO was formed in 1994.
The pseudo-Journalist also wrote that there was a coup in Nigeria in 1994!

He also declared that MKO Abiola was dealing with drugs and that this was the reason the Jun-12,1993 election was annuled.

What that guy wrote on his blog is mere collections of old beer parlour gossips nothing close to research at all.

swaggerjack:
CNN contributor Michael Weiss already exposed the Chicago drug baron. We need CNN Christian Amanpour to do an investigative report.

Is this a court in the US?

How unintelligent can you be?

You are saying Tinubu committed serious crimes in the USA and the country allowed him to go free?
Many of you are carried away by emotions rather than reasons.

kingmekus:
The editor of this hogwash called rebuttal did a very poor job at defending Tinubu, David Hundeyin did an intensive research with original documents sealed and signed, the receipts for the payment of two luxurious houses by his daughters amounting to almost 6million Dollars was also attached, but here is someone that just finished eating Agbado and Cassava, trying so hard to defend his oppressor.
We deserve whatever we are experiencing as a country.

David Hundeyin knows how gullible you people can be.

If all the law enforcement agents of the USA did arrest Tinubu and the courts in the USA didn't convict him of any wrong doing, how can a common blogger be insisting that the man broke American laws?

Shugavee:
I guess as a southern Christian this is what you want

You don't even know what you are saying.

Shari'ah was introduced in Borno State in 2003 shortly after Sen Ali Modu Sheriff became the Governor of the State.
Boko Haram started in 2001 and had serious violent encounter with the Police in 2009

Shettima became the Governor of Borno State on May 29,2011.

Shugavee:
voting PDP is fair , they have a northern Muslim and southern Christian ticket, same with LP a southern Christian with a northern Muslim ticket. Now we have to Chanel our votes where we would win and vote pdp, voting LP isn’t a bad idea but would give greater chances to apc, this is not time to share votes atleast we can see what we have to suffer if we do

Who should Traditionalists and a
No -religious people vote for?