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TheRealestGuy:
They're just there for livelihood?

To the extent that they raise kids, inter marry, build houses and even have second generations there?

For all you huff and puff you haven't said what patriotism means to you?

You're likely one of those who think shouting one Nigeria at every opportunity is being patriotic, even with glaring injustice and nepotism.

You're notorious for your views on Igbos anyway so this is my last reply to you.

Most Nigerians (not just the Igbos) are not patriotic.


I don't see anything wrong with an Igbo candidate winning the presidential election.

TheRealestGuy:
It is a known fact that Igbos integrate wherever they find themselves and also assimilate other cultures - if that isn't nation building then what is?

As for your last statement, yes Igbos do sort of have a superiority complex which can be a real cause of disaffection but I don't agree that having a superiority complex should be the reason why they are a target for killing at every instance of Riots in the North or why they should never be in the presidency in Nigeria.

Nigerians don't really hate the Igbos or any other tribe.



There is Igbo politicuan that have been the candidate of a major political party, so it seems like other Nigerians don't want them to be president but it's not true.

SmartPolician:
Forget sentiments, Peter Obi is the best man for this job. Obi has an intimidating CV and track record. Nigerians are not ready to fix the shithole. We don't need people who take instructions from others.

The only person I support in APC is Rotimi Amaechi...that man is a Niger Delta tiger with a good heart. He will step on toes and deliver for the people.

Nigeria doesn't need weaklings at this point because many evil people are feeding from this dysfunctional system. Amaechi is the best minister in this government and did an awesome job as Rivers State governor.

So what stops Peter Obi and Amaechi from contesting sir?

Ahumanfirst:
Your comment is filled with hate and bitterness and palpable fear of Mr Peter Obi. The truth is that Mr Obi remains the only politician who has demonstrated with sufficient track record that he can prudently manage state resources. He did not only achieve and in some cases surpassed all human developmental indices as per the then MDGs as a state governor, he saved and invested on behalf of the people of the state. He did not borrow and he did not owe any contractor, yet delivered the state with best rural road network. And guess what, it’s on record that he is the only governor to leave behind a whooping 75billion naira in savings and investment for the state. If we want to be honest with ourselves, such a man is the only one with the capacity to get us out the debts the current govt plunged us into. Mr Obi will surely make your life easier and better! Leave sentiments aside!

Try to convince Peter Obi to Join the presidential race.

GoodHardDick:
Peter obi is by far better than tinubu

But he isn't contesting.

Saturn444:
There are few States in Nigeria that have made progress, and those States have paraded the best minds, States like Lagos, Akwa Ibom, Ebonyi.

Those three States are not governed by career politicians. Incidently, Lagos State has made much progress from Fashola, Ambode and Olu. Tinubu was instrumental to bringing these non-politicians into power. Why did Tinub bring up people to govern the STate that are not career politicians and even brought up a Vice President that was not a politician?

Because he trusted them to keep their words. He knew that career politicians can easily be corrupted.

Since Tinubu is a career politician, he can not be trusted to be President. We need fresh minds. Let Tinubu support a Candidate, he is great at that.

Tinubu is a certified Public Accountant and worked for and with global companies like Delloitre, Aramco & Mobil.
He also has his own firms and stakes in firms like The Nation, TVC, Alphabeta, INTELS, Remita etc.


None of the other contestants have this kind of resume.

azpekuliar:
I am tempted to agree. The disadvantages may outweigh the benefits. As the Magodo episode showed If LASG had the instrument of state police then the Magodo Landlord’s Association might as well kiss the Supreme Court judgement goodbye!

State Police doesn't mean abolition of the present Federal Police but a multi-layered system of policing.
LGA, STATE and FEDERAL can have their different police services with spelt out functions ,powers and hierrachy. It can even be optional where States that don't want State Police can continue to rely on the present police system while those who want State Police should form their own Police.




Every State should have the rights to defend itself.

In a democracy like ours, to win a presidential election involve tedious , complex and expensive steps ;

1) consultant opinion moulders, media practitioners, youth groups, traditional rulers and religious groups accross the length and breadth of Nigeria.

2) Convince party delegates to support your aspiration and win the party's primaries.

3) Campaign in all States of the Federation, have dedicated and loyal agents in ALL the polling uinuts, ward collation centres, LGA collation centres, Agents in every State and at the final collation centre at Abuja.


There are some very patriotic citizens who can truly help to develop this country, however they aren't doing the above processess that can land them in Aso-rock but it appears the supporters/fans of other aspirants somehow feel that those who are doing the above political processess are bad and should leave the race for those aren't doing much.

Haakeem:
What is this one vibrating U just poked ur nose in, without understanding my reply to him a little bit

In a democracy, to win a presidential election involve tedious , complex and expensive steps ;

1) consultant opinion moulders, media practitioners, youth groups, traditional rulers and religious groups accross the length and breadth of Nigeria.

2) Convince party delegates to support your aspiration and win the party's primaries.

3) Campaign in all States of the Federation, have dedicated and loyal agents in ALL the polling uinuts, ward collation centres, LGA collation centres, Agents in every State and at the final collation centre at Abuja.


There are some very patriotic citizens who can truly help to develop this country, however they aren't doing the processess above that can land them in Aso-rock.

Minjim:
Your foresight is limited. I'll pardon your comments above.

Tell me any city in with same IGR with Lagos that doesn't have those things.

Did Tinubu do them with his personal money ?

Let's leave Tinubu and start looking for the right candidate.


The election is going to be a CONTEST and not a rederendum on whether Tinubu is bad or not.

Jerchance:
Nigerians don't ever learn. I'm not even rooting for Dino and hello, but comparing him with the likes of trump, Biden is crap. This was how they packaged the incumbent and made you feel Nigeria had suddenly become heaven on Earth.

Anyone who still stands by the decision he made in 2015 to vote in the present government, is as bad as the government.

Do you even consider other people are going through? We should stop supporting judgments that only favor a few, and be objective.

Bros, let's leave sentiments aside.


What are you doing to search for the candidate that can solve the problems in the land?

There's a world of difference between idealities and realities.

The reality is that the best candidate can NOT emerge without going through the electoral processes which will involve consulting opinion moulders across the country , convincing party delegates to buy into his candidacy and winning the party's primaries.

Why is this right candidate not doing all these but sitting in his house while his supporters are campaigning against those who are doing all the above steps?

Haakeem:
GOD!!! If not that this forum is nt that popular,i would have just screenshoted this ur comment,and if possible tinubu wins the election and he start ruling,i am sure his regime would be worster than buhari own,as at that time all of u people supporting him una eyes go don clear,enhe.... I would now post the rubbish comment u made so that you would know ur stupidness no be here.

It will most likely be better.


You are embittered and wish your own country evil just to win childish arguments.

Nigerian democracy will be better if we learn to accommodate all shades of opinions, open the electoral space for all those who want to contest while the electorates pick the one they want.



Trying to shut out peoples from the race is counter-productive in the long run.

juniorstar:
What Nigeria needs is a young,vibrant, focused, one who understands where Nigeria is currently and who has a clear vision of where we should be..who would help direct the course of the present day Nigeria and lay down a stong foundation for future nigerians. One who isnt limited by ethnicity or religion. One who is well travelled and wouldnt be corrupted by any cabal an independent candidate who the masses support whole heartedly not becos they were given 3 cups of rice in the local govt..one who would built strong institutions and will ensure bad eggs are properly dealt with. One who will sanitise the entire spectrum of govt institutions and would be more focused on making Nigeria a producing rather than a consuming country. A leader ready to DIE to bring down any stronghold limiting the progress of the country . That persons isnt Tinubu. Nigerians can choose him if they like cos i would be long gone from here. But would return to buy the wreckage at a discount price if una no gree hear word.

Okay, but name that perfect candidate so we can start mobilizing for him.


So much energy, time and resources has been spent campaigning against Tinubu that it's beginning to look like Tinubu is the problem and that once he is out of the race, there will be solutions to all our problems.

We aren't talking about the right candidate, his plans for the economy, how he will tackle Banditry and Boko-Haram, solve the Herdsmen crisis, his views on State Police and how to solve the Biafra question.

sfinkzslot:
If na with PDP make he forget

Why? We should encourage as many people as possible to join the race.

God1000:
this isn't the time to keep quiet man and it's not obsession, we need to educate ourselves and make the right choices.

What if Osinbajo is sidelined at the party level? That leaves us with tinubu from APC, we need to continue yowling, hopefully it will get to APC leaders

The APC leaders will actually vote for Dave Umahi at the Primaries.


We also have the other good leaders like Atiku, Kingsley Moghalu and Sowore in other parties.

yuping:
please you should all save your strength for election, me myself will not this man. But the way I keep seeing thread about him here and there hmmmm, its turning to obsession gradually.
If you have any candidate promote him or her instead of all this propaganda. This is the same way Goodluck Jonathan loss instead of focusing on himself and agenda he start attacking Buhari now the same pattern is occurring, I guess we never learn.
Sometimes I wonder while God create me with peoole like this.

May be God made a mistake, or what do you think?

God1000:
we deserve the kind of leaders we get considering the massive support the man is getting

How do you know that he is getting massive support sir?

Anigreat:



Nigeria is not such a country, America is that country that anyone can just came from nowhere and emerged the president.

It's not hard for you to see people laugh a newbie to scorn in Nigeria who tries to Contest, they will ridicule such an individual.

And it's not very hard for you hear something like "this one hasn't paid his dues yet, he wants to be a governor of a president" what is this dues they are talking about?

We have a long way to go in this country.

Even in the USA, it's very difficult to just come from anywhere, contest for the presidency and win.


Only two people has ever become US presidents by contesting for the presidential election as their first election;

1) Gen Dwight Esseinhower, who was the US War hero in the WW-2 and rose on that popularity to win a presidential election in 1953.

2) Donald Trump: a popular Real Estate, Entertainment and Media personality from a New-York Wealthy Family.
In reality, Donald started running for the presidency since 1998 under small and weak parties until he joined the Republican party to actualize his ambition in 2016.

Coolsperm:
Ha it been Nigeria is a serious country, Peter Obi is best man to lead it now, but the country is not a serious one

How can a man that is not contesting become the leader of the country sir?

naija4life247:
Which 15 other politicians said the want to contest for President seat? All the other fools you see jumping around like frog are just making noise.

Imagine Davido’s boy called Dele Momodu saying that he wants to contest and under PDP for that matter. Can the obsessed clown afford PDP Presidential form?

Don't underrate anybody sir.


In 1991, the most popular contenders in the Governorship race in Lagos were Prof Femi Agbalajobi and Dapo Sarumi, both from the defunct SPD. So many crisis occurred in the party, leading to the cancellation of the SDP primaries and a Cascade of events led to the emergence of Sir Michael Otedola of the NRC as the elected Governor of Lagos.

jaxxy:
When Atiku wanted to contest all of u jump out of ur caves to condemn him. Now it’s Tinubu it’s just an ordinary private citizen.

Fact is Tinubu has alot of baggage, just as we can see how Lagos has been held hostage by recruiting puppets and he also a threat to major democracy.

Both Atiku and tinubu has too much baggage to be president. Atiku is even better.

Please point out where I condemned Atiku or whoever that wants to contest?


We need Atiku, Kwankwanso, Tinubu, Osinbajo, Anyim Pius Anyim, Dave Umahi and at least 15 other strong contenders to join the presidential race. This will give wider options and make it difficult to manipulate the process.

Ikegwuru:
Your mentality is fixed and it is such that anyone that talks bad of a particular candidate is Igbo and anyone that speaks good of him is non-Igbo. It is good. Igbos always wish Nigeria what they wish themselves. We want a prosperous Igboland. We also want a prosperous Nigeria. This is why we cry when certain people want a prosperous region but a wobbling nation. We want every part of Nigeria to be developed and leadership is key to it. If we criticise a candidate, it is because we actually have strong reasons to do so and not because we hate the person's tribe. We do not hate others but we discover that others are scared of our competitiveness. They think we are too fast than they can ever be. In our vision as Igbo other Nigerians are putting us 400 years backward. We can pursue the Chinese, the Japanese, and America if left to do so. But Nigeria said no. To spite us they brought Buhari who is talking about grazing route when other nations are talking about electric car and living in space. Now you are spiting the Igbo for championing a fellow who is celebrating having stolen so much that he is now richer than some states.

Bros, all these epistles aren't necessary.


You can NOT stop people from contesting and supporting whoever they like.


Support your candidate and let others support theirs. Anyone that has the majority votes wins at the end of the day.

Coolsperm:
Tinubu is a typical Yoruba Muslim that want unity but not equity

Bros, pursue equity and leave this man alone sir.


He is just like any other Nigerian, I honestly don't understand why so many people are apprehensive about a private citizen saying he wants to contest for election out of over 15 other politicians that are also running for the same office.

kernniejay:
I know i can't stop people from contesting neither can I stop anyone from voting whoever they will. It simply shows that it is their destiny to live in perpetual sorrow and regret.

How people live or their destinies is their own cup of tea.



Certain problems in this country will not disappear irrespective of whoever becomes the president.

Karlovych:
He denied his Iragbiji relatives by claiming to be from Lagos, everything he does is for his own selfish interest.
#Nigeria is not Lagos State

Iragbiji is not a criterion for contesting for the presidency.



Tinubu is a Nigerian citizen and has the right to run for the highest office in his country.


It's better you start supporting the candidate that you think can solve the problems.

BallsDeep:
Saraki

Okay, we have heard.

kernniejay:
I can't imagine in my wierdest thinking how enlightened and knowledgeble Nigerians that have working brains will harness their support for a man with everything shady, from age to origin to source of wealth.

The same man who led them into the current quagmire they are into by hoisting an incompetent and sickly president on them with his attendants hardship and woes, now comes up with his own intention to rule with the expressed propaganda of continuing from where the current man would pause the hardship as he has said his aim is to build on the foundation already laid which is obviously nothing but economic disaster with its tales of anguish and regret, which the same Tinubu supporters are also pertakers in, yet some would not mind paying with their blood for him to become president!

It is only those that have been destined to suffer in life that will come out of a yoke and go ahead to stick their necks yet again into another yoke.

All these don't win elections Bros.


It's most appropriate that you start campaigning for the best candidate that you think can solve the problems.

You can't stop people from contesting or supporting whoever they like.

SarkinYarki:
How can you say you have been voting Tinubu since 1992 ...abeg easy with the lies

Tinubu contested for and won Lagos
Central Senatorial District in 1992.

ayzTIGER:
Na only Yoruba Muslims dey front Tinubu. Go to Facebook you will only find names like Afeez, Ramoni, saeed, waleed supporting that evil spirit. Chronic Afonja skullers

Elections are not won on social media.

Kriss216:
Tinubu cannot even win in SW. Trust me

Who do you think will win in the SW?

CSTRR:
Bringing out tinubu is an insult to everybody.

A terrible governance is not felt by only tinubu supporters.
Everybody go collect.

Nobody is bringing out anybody.

Every citizen has a constitutional right to aspire for any office. Mr Tinubu is bringing himself out, several other citizens have also brought themselves out.
Learn to respect the rights of other citizens, even if you don't like them. . . Democracy!

CSTRR:
How are they not ready?

Is Umahi, orji kalu a joke to you?

Is Peter obi a joke to you.?

Is moghalu a joke to you?

The past Presidents that we have had, what did they do to be ready?

Obj became president from prison.

If you guys had used the energy, time and resources you used to campaign against Tinubu to project and campaign for these candidates they will be the front runners in the race.