₦airaland Forum

Henry120:
[s]When you South-Africans get butt-hurt, you stay throwing little silly comments about jealousy.

Deal with it, the SAAF is a turd of an excuse for a service.

You have neither provided any evidence or citation to prove that the SAAF has more than 9 Gripen, qualified pilots. None!

I'm not been imaginative, the facts are well documented. The SAAF has a pilot shortage, go cry to Pretoria not on nairaland.


Truly, there actually is nothing to be jealous of the SAAF. Your A109s are mostly grounded than in the air, you fly world war II aircraft for MP duties, you have a Gripen pilot shortage, at-least 12 Gripens are always in storage( or what ever the name you currently have for it), your half-french Helicopter is obsolete, you cannot afford aviation fuel, you SAAF is broke, the SAAF only has 3 operational C-130s, experienced pilots have quit the service because of forced quota, the SAAF is pitifully inexperienced, the SAAF demands it's dead pilot pay for his service flight suit.

The South-African Air force is a joke!!
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In transport the NAF is ahead,
Surveillance we are ahead,
Combat experience we are ahead,
Operational use, we are ahead,
Congrats you have a 4 GEN fighter, but it's a fighter without BVR capabilities, so it's fight with NAF's 3.5GEN F-7 is even,
And we sure well do not demand families of dead pilots killed in service to pay for flight suits.


Egypt, Algeria and Nigeria are light years ahead of the SAAF.

agaugust:
[s]NAF has it's edge over Algerian and Egyptian air forces. SAAF is no comparison.

Algerian air force has far far far far less combat experience compared to Nigeria.

Egyptian air force last fought a war over 40 years ago. Current pilots have ZERO experience.

Nigerian air force has flown 6,000 combat sorties in 6 months and fought wars overseas and at home consistently for the past 25 years.

NAF ISTAR beats everybody in Africa by far.

An air force is more than just having more or better jet fighters, there are different kinds of combat air forces are required to be capable of fighting, and constant experience of war is an edge.

NAF is desired by Egypt, they did not even act as if SAAF exists, the Egyptians don't want to be associated with a ZERO tested air force, SAAF[/s]
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agaugust:
NEXT is go rescue Patches, his bones are getting broken trying to help your Sea Spray radar disaster
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Henry120:
[s]Buhahahahahahahahahaha........ That's exactly the problem why they have Pilot shortages, and funnily, it isn't even a mock.


They run a 75% - 25% quota system in their Airforce. The Zulu dullards have been incapable of filling their quotas, while most experienced and qualified white officers have left the service to take up jobs overseas or in the Private sector, and the ones who remain and are actually qualified are sent to Helicopter squadrouns.[/s]

agaugust:
[s]Oh no my boy !

I will gladly post proof of ATR-42 radar range 407 km, just that I need you to admit that South Africa needs the help of a Nigerian military researcher to rescue you Southies from the trap of Sea Spray radar in which you have locked yourselves like a mouse in a trap.

Simple.

For Gripen ground search radar range, ask your fellow South African @Milizikazi where he got his 70 km range from, I agree he is right approx[/s]
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Henry120:
Have you provided a scrap of evidence that you have more than 9?

The onus is on you to prove that South-Africa has more than the aforementioned number, 9.


With dullards like @Fighterpilot in the SAAF, you be delusional to believe you have more than 9?

agaugust:
[s]I think the SAAF Gripen pilot shortage has to do with lack of capable brains to train, and learn how to fly a 4th generation jet, the white officers have left SANDF and the air force is worst hit by the exit of white SAAF men, the Zulus are born to throw spears around, their brains CANNOT pass a Gripen pilot qualifying exam.

Same kind of problem the Saudis have with Eurfighter Typhoons and they want a less complex jet that their oil filled lazy brains can fly.

The South Africans are even worse, they cannot fly a light jet like the Gripen, Zulu/Xhosa brain is duller than Arab brains, Zulu/Bantu brains are 2nd bottom of the world intelligence ladder, it cannot understand how to fly a 4th generation jet fighter.

They should have bought MiG-21 upgrades from Eastern Europe and upgrade them with Israeli help, Zulu pilots can fly those types easily[/s]
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agaugust:
How can NAF fly a jet it does not have in 2009 ? F-7 jet arrived in 2010, your source about grounded jets was a 2009 report

You see how all you South Africans have failed and failed and failed to prove that NAF F-7 jets have shortage of pilots, your 'proof' dates back to before the F-7 jets even entered service with NAF, or did the jets get grounded inside manufacturers factory in China during factory production?

See how you Southies have all trapped yourselves with your own argument.....telling lies does not pay
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Henry120:
Mumu!!


"Just a simple citation for evidence that you have more than 9 Pilots has suddenly turned you into a philosophy professor?".

Henry120:
9 pilots and 9 navigators. It has been proven multiple times.

Henry120:
We don't have a pilot shortage issue, so i don't see how this question is relevant.


SAAF on the other hand has a well documented pilot shortage problem.

agaugust:
You were the first to start the claim without a source, burden of proof is on you, so prove your claim.

[s]The pit you dug for ATR-42 wrong Sea Spray radar, Patches has fallen inside after trying to pull you out, then you abandoned him there.

You come again with information about F-7 that you claim but cannot prove with sources.....Fraudster ![/s]
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agaugust:
[size=14pt][s]Your source says 2009, but Nigeria did NOT have F-7 jet until 2010.

So how did NAF ground a jet they did not have and also suffered pilots shortage of the jet they did not have in 2009 ?

#Demolished In 1 minute[/s]

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agaugust:
Prove that every air force in this world has "enough" pilots, show us where every air force in the world published reports confirming that they have enough pilots, start form African air forces and go on from there, show us sources.
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Henry120:
No evidence Nigeria has a pilot shortage.

Henry120:
Yes, you only have 9 Gripen Pilots. post evidence to the contrary.




Direct your questions and complaints to the South-African Air Force.

Argument from ignorance (Latin: argumentum ad ignorantiam), also known as appeal to ignorance (in which ignorance stands for "lack of evidence to the contrary", is a fallacy in informal logic. It asserts that a proposition is true because it has not yet been proven false (or vice versa).

agaugust:
That report does NOT even mention the word PILOT even once, sorry you posted an irrelevant article.

Show us a news report of NAF F-7 jet pilots shortage, we are waiting.....same way we showed you report of SAAF Gripen jet pilots shortage clean and clear....show us such report about NAF F-7 jets
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agaugust:
Show us citation to prove that SAAF Litening targeting pod works at 40,000 feet, simple question you mörön !
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agaugust:
[s]You already proved yourself to be a fraud by posting ATR-72 radar six times and calling it ATR-42 radar, there is nothing for me to prove, why do I need to kïll yöu when yöu have already committed suicïde? You are already self-wrëcked Patrick

You want me to help you get the correct radar, LOL, you need Nigerian help, admit it.

If I was the one who posted a wrong radar name, all the ïdiots of South Africa will start screaming.....Mr. Military Resercher...Fake Researcher.....blah blah bubble gibber gibberish !

Now you Patches and Mike are trapped in a fraud case, all other Southies have abandoned you both to sink in your self dug mud pit....the other Southies are avoiding this topic like Ebola. LOL

I am teaching you a lesson of life, don't be arrogant and don't try to rubbish other people, because your own äss will get exposed one day.

Learn a lesson[/s]
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agaugust:
When SAAF grounded Augusta's for crashes, was it because of pilots shortage?

NAF NEVER grounded the F-7 after 2 crashes, instead, we called in the PAF for joint maintenance, then technology transfer for mantenance so that NAF engineers took over, then we started joint combat training with Pakistan and that means we began to fly randomly.

There is NO report that ever said NAF has pilot shortages for F-7, so you show me one !

A man who has never been to hospital does not need to be asked when he was discharged form sick bed.

NAF has NEVER had F-7 jet pilots shortages, and the jets were NEVER grounded.

SAAF has many reports in the news for Gripen jets pilots shortage and grounding of aircraft in frozen long term storage
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patches689:
Name its radar and post citations for 400km range

Prove my "fraud"!!

You cant can you??

agaugust:
America borrows money to pay government expenses, yet they have the biggest military budget in the world
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agaugust:
You agree you were telling lies about the Sea Spray radar name, you agree ?
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agaugust:
Nope, the origin of our claim that SAAF has only 9 pilots is not based on photos of flying aircraft, it is based on a published news report. It was when you were denying the news report that we spoke of how many Gripens fly together.

Show us a news report that says NAF has shortage of F-7 jet pilots....show us such a source in this world...or else sharaaaaap
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agaugust:
There are Rhino poachers on military land having fun on SANDF property disgracing South African army

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=34762:the-sandf-and-rhino-poaching&catid=87:border-security&Itemid=188

.....and also SANDF is fighting Rhino war inside Kruger park and getting defeated daily .....

"The South African Minister of Defence, Ms Lindiwe Sisulu, has congratulated the SANDF members for arresting poachers. It has been 15 days since they deployed into the Kruger National Park and we can see the results already. We will continue to work with the law enforcement agencies to secure our borders and to deal with rhino poaching", said Minister Sisulu."

http://www.wildlifeextra.com/go/news/kruger-poaching011.html#cr

Col. Eben Barlow has not saved South Africa at home, as the current SANDF has ZERO bush war skills
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stillchris:
dullard.

i can bet my last cent that you don't even know what it is. just the word "Tactical" amuses you south africans.

If a data link standard in order to provide communication via
radio waves or cable used the military to transmit, relay and receive tactical data is not TDL,

then tell me what Nigerian Navy uses to transmit data from the ATR to navan vessels.

Or from naval control stations to naval vessels.

Or from combat areas in maiduguri to DHQ in Abuja

Or from our surveillance platforms to commanders on ground.

I can go on and on on instances it has been used.

You south Africans are just shouting TDL as if it's a technology beyond any nation's reach.

The real fraud is SANDF. No evidence of operational usage of data link. Just on paper

I hope this free education has helped you dumb he-goat.

agaugust:
[s]Your tactical data-link has not connected your security forces together and help them defeat local Rhino poachers.

Botswana that is helping you save your Rhinos has no tactical data-link .

So how effective is your data-link in operation, not on paper, what have you achieved with it dealing with a moving target in Kruger park ?[/s]


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agaugust:
There is NO history, source or record of F-7 jet pilots shortage in Nigeria, so citation needed for the 3 F-7 pilots fairy tale
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agaugust:
Citation needed now !
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agaugust:
Okay, you agree that ATR-42 radar is not Sea Spray ?

You surrender? Say yes boss, South Africa surrenders to Nigeria, then we can go forward from there...
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stillchris:
altgough i doubt the story as reporters will want to make a meal of the whole incidence, what else would you expect.

arresting bashir would have sparked confrontations between both countries. militarily or diplomatic

and many african governments will be against SA on this one because it will amount to discrediting the AU.

your government still doesn't understand International politics