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lionel4power:
[size=16pt][s]FLASH UPDATE... TWO S.A NAVY SHIPS MISSING TWO SUNK. NIGERIAN NAVY SHIPS ARRIVE SOUTH AFRICAN SHORES, NIGERIAN TROOPS LANDS AT SIMON TOWN NAVAL BASE AND DURBAN NAVAL BASE, SIX SOUTH AFRICAN AIRFORCE JETS SHOT DOWN OVER PRETORIA OTHERS FLEE TO ZIMBABWE. ARMY BASE DURBAN, BLOEMFONTEIN, KIMBERLEY TOTALLY DESTROYED, PRETORIA AIR BASE OUT OF COMMISSION,JET FIGHTERS DESTROYED ON GROUND, AIRSTRIKES CONTINUES ON ALL MAJOR CITIES, SERVICE CHIEFS STILL MISSING, PRESIDENT IN ZIMBABWE REQUEST ASYLUM, ARTILLERIES POUNDS ARMY LOCATIONS, UN PLEADS FOR IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE AS ARMY DISBANDS AND FLEES. NIGERIAN FORCES HOLDS MAJOR BASES. S.A CITIZENS TAKE UP ARMS.[/s][/size]

Nigeria cannot even defeat rag tag boko haram

And you think you stand a chance against the most powerfull military in sub-saharan africa?

agaugust:
You start by telling us how many Exocets you can fire at once.

Plus the Nigerian ship is invisible to radar at distance, it's 2014 stealth capability including it's weapons.

You need to get close to detect, track and missile attack the Nigerian OPV, deadly OPV.

Since you challenge the manufacturers claims, you prove how the decoy cannot defeat 13 Exocets.

Then SAN has ONLY one frigate operational, so maximum you can fire is only 8 Exocet missiles.

You lose, Patches, you lose.....and that your fake super rapid gun delusions
.

- you say that is invisible to radar at distance? Prove it.

*That is not how stealth works on ships


- I am not challenging the manufacturers claims, did the manufacturer claim 100% effectiveness? Show us where the manufacturer says that!

Again, you have said it will defeat ALL missiles. Prove it.


- SAN has only one frigate operational?

SAN has 2 frigates operational, 1 used for training and one undergoing maintenance/refit
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/south-african-navy-mulls-future-requirements-as-fleet-remains-active-2013-10-04-1

- multiple citations have been posted that SAN and Armscor have released tenders and paid for: spare parts, maintenance and technical training for the Super Rapid gun. There is no doubt we have it.


Augustus, I will not entertain this foolish argument that an OPV stands a chance against 2 Frigates (even just 1 OPV against 1 Frigate is delusional) u[b]ntil you prove the statements you have made.[/b]

lezz:
it says what you want to read, so you discard facts on ground . where is your sense?

Prove it.

Or

Shut up.

A simple choice for a simple mind.

Henry120:
When it doesn't support South-Africa, it is opinion, when it does, it is fact.

It is literally opinion - the report itself says so.

lionel4power:
[size=20pt]CALAMITY AT SEA! PANIC HITS MAJOR SOUTH AFRICAN CITIES AS NEWS OF NIGERIANS NAVY WARSHIP SIGHTED! NAVY COMMANDERS AWOL! All NAVY SUBMARINE SUNK AT HARBOUR BY ATR-72 AND ALPHA JETS. TANKS, DRONES, ARTILLERIES STATIONED IN ANGOLA! DEFEAT INEVITABLE. SOUTH AFRICAN PRESIDENT DEFECTS.[/size]

Whats amazing about this post is that it gets dumber as you keep reading,


which is impressive as the opening 2 sentances are some of the most obtuse things I have read in a while.

1/10 - you got me to reply

lezz:
you mean your co Zulu?

Last I checked he was posting facts and you were making long winded posts with no factual content.

If you disagree with a source, post a counter source.

If you want confirmation on the statement of another, request that they post a source to substantiate their claims.

Otherwise, dont argue.

lezz:
[s]Lolz . america is one pain in the ass that knows so little about Africa. She channels all her resources to the middle east, Asia Pacific and NATO. The CIA rubbish book is not only factless, but also several years behind.[/s]

"It doesnt say what I want it to, thus it must be wrong"

Prove it or shut up

Henry120:
Direct your question to WEF, not me. All I know is, S.A scores last place in maths and Sciences.

A nation of dullards!

Henry120

Yet again he is basing everything on OPINION

agaugust:
I did not say it, manufacturer specs says it is an anti-ship missile decoy, if you disagree , prove the manufacturer wrong.

Do it the same way I proved your sources wrong about super rapids gun, post proof the way I post proof from SAN itself.

Prove your claim the way I proved mine !

Coward

I am not disagreeing with what it is.

I am disagreeing because you have no shred of evidence that it is 100% effective - does the manufacturer say it is 100% effective?

Now, you say it will defeat all 13-17 SAN missiles - prove it.

You can start by telling us how many decoys the launcher can deploy.

Henry120:
Direct your answer to JLN115. He's the person who said S.A can't drill out her mineral wealth from the ground.

That is not what he said.

Read the post
Understand the post
Respond accordingly

lezz:
I don't need a prophet to tell you feel me.
Fraudster.

Fraudster?

I am not the one trying to fight the facts

agaugust:
[s]I don't take CIA world fact book seriously, we argued about it in 2013 here, it posts a lot of wrong data about Nigeria.

Some kind of unreliable library it is, even some serious South Africans here in 2013 disagree with the CIA factbook for saying South Africa is not a 3rd world country. LOL....South Africa is what? Europe? LOL

CIA-FACT-BOOK? NO

CIA FAKE-BOOK, YES[/s]
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Here we go again.

The king of delusion thinks his opinion is more important than a factual source.

Henry120:
- your Defence minister.

- to much grammar, yet no substance. Provide evidence that support your claim, the Nigerian government hired South-Africans?

The onus is on you to back up your claim with concrete evidence.

- read my post, understand my post, respond properly to my post.
- evidence of South Africans operating in Nigeria has been thoroughly laid out on this forum and is indisputable.

agaugust:
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Prove that it cannot, burden of proof is on you !
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[size=16pt]I am not making the allegation or assertion here.

You are.

You say your decoy launcher will defeat all 13-17 missiles - then prove it

It is your duty to prove what you say is true.
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Henry120:
Actual racists and uncle tom a$s-lickers are Patches689 and Mikeczar. I just don't know how these two suddenly turned racist like craigB.

Accusing me of racism?

Two problems:

1. I dont call white people pigs (like you)
2. I am mixed race - to hate a specific race is to hate myself.

Henry, just because I constantly thrash you in all topics military, does not mean you should go around accusing people of racism. Maintain a level of self-respect that does not lead to resorting to hurling accusations of racism

Henry120:
S.A is a basket case! With a 33% pass mark and scoring 144 out of 144 countries rated in maths and Sciences, I don't see how your minerals won't remain as dirt.

That pass rate of 33% is to complete high school - it does not qualify you for univeristy.

Hence why we have the best tertiary education system in Africa

That ranking of 144 out of 144 was based on OPINION and not fact.

Our mineral wealth is being extracted perfectly well

agaugust:
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[s]NN OPV anti-missile decoys will defeat ALL SAN 13 Exocet missiles.

It will end up as a gun battle, Nigerian navy has a far superior gun.

Buhari's OPV will sink Mandela's frigate.

Naija will use Southies to make news in Guinness book of records ![/s]

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Prove that your anti-missile decoys will defeat all 13 decoys

agaugust:
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[s]Nope, Nigerian OPV version of AK-176 gun is a modern era of year 2003 gun.

= Stealthy design
= Composite material
= Stealth paint
= Double ammunition load, 150 shells
= Super Rapid fire mode....real super rapid fire

"The 713th Institute (also known as Zhengzhou Electrical Engineering Research Institute) of China Shipbuilding Industry Corporation (CSIC) of the People's Republic of China has developed a Chinese variant of AK-176, with Mr. Chen Dingfeng (陈汀峰) as the general designer. Design begun in 2000 and was completed in 2003. The primary difference between this H/PJ-26 and AK-176 is that the Chinese variant adopts a stealthy turret design, and more composite material is used in the construction of the turret. In addition, ready rounds for the H/PJ-26 are doubled to 150 rounds from the original 75 of the AK-176."

Meanwhile, South African navy's over-rated frigates sail around with ancient 1977 guns.

The Soweto M0R0NS put a non-stealth 1977 gun on a 2005 stealth warship.....Fools

When Valour frigate is at sea, the metal big gun will be the first thing enemy radar will detect, Valour gun has wrecked Valour stealth and made it much more easily visible to enemy radar.

Nigerian OPV is totally invisible to enemy radar at a distance, South Africa cannot even fire Exocet missile because they won't see our ship until they get close in range.

Nigerian OPV sinks South African frigate o ![/s]
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Your guns are from 1977

Proof that your OPV will be totally invisible

africaken:
this bull %$# ,because the brits told you this is you march or parade thats makes you are outstanding from the rest.just observe how the french legionnaire march

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yASlGCLkBSw

Yeah uh, we are talking about African militaries marching

lezz:
jackshit!

[s]CIA factbook my ass...sorry, yours. Your FDI is going down. Nigeria's is increasing.

Nigger, south Africa is saturated. Your forcing yourselves being what you are not destined to be, incapable of becoming.

Insecure morons, clinging to a notion that is unachievable.

Early 2014 I predicted the gradual falling away of south Africa. When I read the ISS report I had goose pimples all over because it all mirrored every single thing I have been saying.

Now here another prediction and live see it come to pass:

If south afriAfrica goes to the moon

Builds a nuclear armor

Has the best military , she will never out power and out influence Nigeria.


Nigger, the 21st century and beyond belongs to the big countries. With globalisation it is even worse.

Boy, DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY !!!!

You think the cruise and global cloth of China, India, Indonesia, Brazil , Nigeria are coincidences?

Zulu in this age, the whiteman is setting up factories, industries and giant firms to these countries.

Why the fvck do you think your masters , Anglo Dutch are queuing up in setting up shops in Nigeria , inspite of boko haram. Silly.[/s]

lol - lezz suffered a completely and utter meltdown

No one cares about your opinion.

Facts are facts.

Henry120:
An armed UGV is useless, and a significant waste of resources.

Because you say so?

Or... more likely...

because Nigeria does not build them you say so?

Henry120:
The entire SANDF is significantly poorly trained.

- Nope you cannot properly equip a battalion. It is only going to be standardised because, SA has only one type of Camo, and the land systems are mostly SA made.

- do you have evidence to support your assertion that the Nigerian government hired South-Africans?

Mr Henry-BecauseISaySo-120

Who says we cannot properly equip a battalion? You?

Who says our men is poorly trained? Gunna post the source of your defence minister again? You know she is referring to shortages in technical positions and not shortcomings in terms of the quality of combatants?

Evidence of South Africans deployed in your country at the bequest of your government have been covered in detail.

lionel4power:
the militaries job is to defend the country from both external(Nigeria) and internal(pirates, poachers) enemies. Unless you are saying S.A military job is to support xenophobia which i totally agree

Military has not been deployed an AP duties - AP is the responsibility of SAPS and SANParks

The military is only involved in support operations, or directly involved when poaching is cross-border.

It is illegal for the SANDF to operate for extended periods of time within South Africa without Presidential approval to do so.

agaugust:
Nigerian Navy Blue Water Sea Power
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[size=16pt]4 missile armed warships

3 submarines

Logistical support

That is blue water power. One OPV with nothing but a gun is not Blue Water power - its green water [/size]

agaugust:
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[size=16pt]Nigerian navy OPV parades killer 76mm gun.


= Ultra-Modern
= Stealthy gun turret design and paint
= Longer effective ranger 10 km
= Maximum range 15.5 km
= Deadly firepower
= Attacks while, Anti-missile decoy defends

NN is African blue water naval wonder !

National salute....salute !

Photo : NNS Centenary....Nigerian Navy Blue Water Sea Power [/size]

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- Ultra modern

The AK-176 is from 1977

- Stealthy yadda yadaa

Pity the massive fvcking heat signatures from the funnels will give you away.

- Longer effective range

Exocet missile has an effective range of 72km

-Anti-missile decoy

Prove that your anti-missile decot can defeat 13-17 exocet missiles
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agaugust:
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[size=20pt]South African Navy Has NO 76mm Super Rabid Gun !

Confession from official website:

All we have on warships are made in 1977 ancient 76mm Compact Gun


Patches, MikeZAR, Saengine....all your false claims de.molished

Missiles: SSM: 8 Exocet MM40 Block 2; SAM Umkhonto 16 cell VLS
Guns: 1 OTOBreda 76mm/62 compact

http://www.navy.mil.za/equipment/valour.htm

Nigerian OPV will sink Southie Valour frigates in one day o ![/size]
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[size=16pt]Who said the super rapid was on the frigates?

SAN has super rapid - proven by multiple citations!

13-17 exocet missiles say that your OPV stands no chance!![/size]

agaugust:
Since SANDF 21 battalion entered the fight and SAAF helicopter was sh.ot down by Rhino Poachers in broad daylight
.

21 battalion is not deployed on AP duties

SAAF Helicopter was not shot down.

Have you no shame?

Boko Haram just released a full HD video

I took the video down

Too graphic, too painful.

If you want to find the link, you can see it here

http://boards.4chan.org/k/thread/26031506/boko-haram-now-known-as-islamic-state-west

agaugust:
Perimeter defence? Against a terrorist that has RPG ?

Main battle tank?

Against an enemy that has an ATGM/ASM/JDAM/MBT/IED/Mine/Nuclear Bomb?

Fvcking assclown

agaugust:
Same thing you always do.

Nope.

agaugust:
Na tank? Na IFV?

Something an AK-47 will disable, just one bullet in the control Camera...then blindness of darkness like ESKOM power out
.

Implying it is not armored
Implying you will be pulling off smooth shots at tiny camera's when a 12,5mm is thumping away at you from 1km away

agaugust:
Was it shot up?
.

You tell me