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petra1:
I doubt your Bible familiarity



The bible is more current than your newspaper

where is the Galatians who quoted me?

Galatians:
If you are familiar with the Bible then you will know that what's happening today is the all that were promised in the Bible.

I'm familiar with the bible .
What's happening today has been happening from the beginning of the fall of man(Adam and Eve) and have absolutely nothing to do with bible prophecies.

There is no prophecy of the bible that prophesied any event that will happen in our current day or our future.

Please is this true?

petra1:
He wasn't doing a commentary on matt 24.
He only picked the verse that related to.his topic

it was not in anyway related to the topic he shouldn't have

Its not.about listening . The preaching of Noah lasted hundreds of years . Thats enough . The pandemic of hybrid overran human race . The was no more pure breed on the earth . They contaminate each other through sex. Only the family of Noah was pure breed. And if God didn't do anything. Noah family may get contaminated who knows . If that happened there won't be salvation for man again. Jesus would no longer have a channel to have come . So God had to destroy the whole of human race to preserve that line

opinions opinions

Funny enough the demons invaded the earth again after the flood. And the earth was flooded with giants like Goliath. But they were killed by Giant hunters

and natural selection too?

petra1:
Remember the decided asked him 3 questions


Matthew 24:3
And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

The 3 have different time lines
Destruction of Jerusalem, the second coming and end of the world

ok, I'm understanding you

These hybrid being were rapist . Marriage to them was forcefull rape. They have sex with anybody their mother their neighbor, man to man ,man to animals. Remember story of lot .

If you have ever been in deliverance session. When you're dealing with case a demon speaking through a woman claiming to be her spiritual husband. That's it. Normally it takes to people to consent on marriage but the nephilims don't see marriage that way they take .

One of the reason God destroyed nations before Israel was these demonic practice

All these things you are saying, they are not found in Matthew 24, why then is your pastor quoting Matthew 24 in support of this?

People have always marry in every generation. Jesus mentioned Noah time because of the unholy alliance to polite human race

No, don't get it twisted. Jesus mentioned Noah time because just like men didn't listen to Noah's preaching that there was a pending flood coming that they should board the ark with him for their salvation, the Pharisees and most Israelites of thst time didn't listen to Jesus and follow him so that they will be saved.
The emphasis wasn't their unholy practices, the emphasis was for them to believe what Noah and Jesus was saying so that they will escape death.
Ofcourse, Noah told his people that the only thing that will save them is the ark, not even their repentance will save them.
Jesus also emphasized that to the Pharisees, the only thing that will save them is for the Pharisees to believe in him, not their repentance. because he is the way, the truth and the life.

What are we having today . Man is marrying man legally. Man is marrying animals legally. Just as in the days of Noah

so, you assume that this Sin of man marrying man and animals is greater than lying and stealing before God?

The book of jasher has more detail account of bible story. The bible is more like a summary. It refered to in the bible


Joshua 10:13
And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed,
until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies.
Is not this written in the book of Jasher? . . .

2 Samuel 1:18
. . (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

.It got missing at a point until it was later discovered again .

Paul the apostles quoted from it 2timothy 3:8

does the book of jasher contain the account of Jesus Christ on earth?

Jman24:
The book of jasher and many other books was removed from the Bible by Emperor Constantine.
The book of jasher is mentioned in Joshua 10 vs 13

ok

petra1:
It doesn't follow
There can be several.prophecies in a chapter
And all of them with different timeline . Right from the old testament

was there several prophecies in Matthew 24 yes or no?
If yes that there were more than one prophecies please indicate the propphesies

His emphasis from that verse was the prase they marry and gave in marriage .

Matthew 24:38
For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

This marriage alliance is a demonic rape and crosbreeding which polluted the earth . They even crossbreed animals. The book jasher talks on this

demonic rape?
what is the man talking?

Look! There is nothing like demonic rape it is totally out of context of Matthew 24, what is this man of God thinking?
Everything Jesus mentioned in that Matthew 24 were precise. They were what happened in Israel during the period Jesus was on earth before he was crucified, that men were marrying and were giving into marriage as usual inspite that the Messiah(Jesus) was physically there in their midst in the person of Jesus and they didn't recognize him.
Remember, the Jews were waiting for the Messiah to come for several years, but here he was in the person of Jesus and they couldn't recognize him, they were carried away marrying and giving hands in marriage.
Don't get this wrong, there was nothing wrong with marrying and giving hands in marriage, but if many of these Israel had known that Jesus was the Messiah they were waiting for all these years, they would have suspended all their events of marrying and followed him and become his disciples.
Peter suspended his fishing activities and followed him. Fishing is not wrong, there is nothing demonic about fishing too.
Many of Jesus disciples had what they were doing, but they have to abandon their professions and their usual activities to follow him, why?
Because they had understood that eternal life is most important which Jesus came to give.

So, nothing was wrong in marrying during that Matthew 24 era.

You see, I have taken time to explain this because what your pastor is preaching is totally out of context of Matthew 24.

Jasher 4:17 . . .And every man made unto himself a god, and they robbed and plundered every man his neighbor as well as his relative, and they corrupted the earth, and the earth was filled with violence. 18 And their judges and rulers went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice,

They tampered with nature teaching demonic science and crossbreeding of human and animal as far back as that time

. . . .and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth



It is true. That's what the fiasco is about. They create a problem and lure you into the trap they call solution. The Moderna vaccine gives room.to.alter human DNA. And by that human being ceases to be pure human. Such a being is disconnected from God . That is why God destroyed the earth to preserve the pure family of Noah. Have you wondered why he destroyed animals also

Genesis 6:7
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

Genesis 6:12
. . . for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth

It is not a Hidden knowledge that the Moderna bill gate vaccine has the ability to alter DNA and RNA. They don't deny it.
If your DNA altered you cease to be 100% human. They may call it advancement. For some years now science had been on the journey of transhumanism. But we prophetic scholars believe this is the mark of the beast. Anyone who received it cannot not be saved. Because salvation is for human not hybrids.

Secondly facts are emerging confirming what the Bible says thousands of years ago

Now they talking about a passport to be issued for those who have the mark
Vaccine. Without the passport you can't get job or transact business or travel

Rev 13:16 — Rev 13:17
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Covid 19 is not deadly. Why the rush to force people into vaccination.
If something will be put in your body and blood should you not be concerned?

is this book of Japhar in the bible?
What particular book of the bible is that??

petra1:
But what he said is true. And more people are agree with him . What is the gibbers

You people, you will never sit down and analyze messages before accepting whether it is true or not.

The pastor committed a serious blunder, a falllacy known as non sequitur (meaning: it does not follow), therefore he is very far from the truth I will tell you why!

Initially, the pastor rightfully pointed that in Genesis 6:4 angels contaminated the earth by breeding giants with men which was the reason God destroyed the eath during Noah days. He then quoted Jesus statement in Matthew 24:37 saying that...

Matthew 24:37 [As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.

But meanwhile, he failed to consider what Jesus said in that same Matthew 24

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

With that failure to consider that these whole thing mentioned in Mathew 24 has already been fulfilled in that generation when Jesus was talking to his disciples approximately 2000 years ago when Jesus was crucified, he fallaciously presumed that the fulfillment including Jude 1:6-9 is going to happen in our future, which does not follow at all.

Infact, the pastor was even suggested that since there were hybrid men(giants) in the days of Noah, hybrid men is coming in our future.

What the blunder non sequitur(it does not follow )
Is this the kind of pastor you are listening to?

petra1:
This is just a proof you didn't listen. If you had you won't say what you said. Listen and come back with comments

wait o! Is this man your pastor?

Omo! You don enter

When the hybrid men did not come, After he go change am say i meant Robot.

Robot are coming!

Truthwords:
Have you watched the video, yes or no. Bill Gates is with the world elites who are all in this. Anyway, based on your comment i can see This is a blue pill or red pill situation. Drink the koolaid and go back to believing what you want to believe. Reality has a huge shock for those who have chosen to sleep. Please since you believe in the vaccines. When it comes, take a lot of it. And you will be just fine.

And you, don't even bother to request for any vaccination of it by the time it becomes affordable because when you do, you make yourself an hypocrite and I guess you know how that feels

Truthwords:
Mainstream media has you under their control. You are seeing the victim and here you are talking about conspiracy theory. Google Pfizer vaccines kill Children in Nigeria and see the results that will come out. The 2 major vaccines are Pfizer and MODeRNA aka Modified RNA and they are both funded by bill gates, a known depopulation agenda vaccine pedler. There are thousands of videos online where he says with his own mouth that he wants to reduce human population and that's the person you wanna trust with your life?. What's wrong with people like you

so what's your point?
That the American government and the world at large are so dumb enough to allow Bill Gate produce a killer vaccine which he proposed since April this year during the on-set of the corona virus, that he has not been indicted for this crime and prosecuted since April?

When you talk do you hear yourself talking at all?

First, the mumu Christians are saying it is mark of beast, now they are saying it is a killer vaccine.

Which one do you people want us to believe?

And what exactly do you Christians have against this man Bill Gate in the first place?

Truthwords:
Really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yi8DNeuZs4

which one is THE VACCINATION, is it just one covid -19 vaccine that exist currently in the US?

For instance, in Nigeria we have several types of malaria medication. There is Amatem, there is Artesunate, there is chloroquine, and so many brands all of which were produced by different pharmaceutical companies and this woman statement is like saying THE MALARIA Drugs(not specifying which of the malaria drugs).

See, conspiracy theorist like her can go about fooling people by making stupid videos but certainly, they can't fool everyone.

benji93:
Why don't you humble yourself and learn. That verse doesn't emphatically specify that taking one's father's wife is fornication. It's only an instance of it as indicated by the bolded.

why will such instance be given on the only scripture that attempted to give us a picture of what the bible meant by fornication in other scriptures that the word fornication was mentioned?
And why didn't the only instance given in that scripture not portray fornication as premarital sex like we believe it to be today but one sleeping with his father's wife?

Why?

stanliwise:
Preacher of doom. Please repent. You literally just cherrypicked a verse and naively interpreted it to match fornication chai

in what way?
You mean 1 Corinthians 5:1 didn't define fornication as one sleeping with his father's wife or what?
Is there any other interpretation of that scripture that point anything otherwise, or is there any other scripture of the bible that outrightly define fornication differently other than what 1 Corinthians 5:1 has said fornication is?

stanliwise:
Preacher of doom. Please repent. You literally just cherrypicked a verse and naively interpreted it to match fornication chai

in what way?
You mean 1 Corinthians 5:1 didn't define fornication as one sleeping with his father's wife or what?
Is there any other interpretation of that scripture that point anything otherwise, or is there any other scripture of the bible that outrightly define fornication differently?

Definition of fornication according to the bible :

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

So fornication means sleeping with your father's wife according to the bible, it is not sleeping with your bf or gf or premarital sex.

Infact, the word premarital used this modern day is confusing people.
Marriage should begin at the point were the girl has accepted the boy's proposal as it happened between Rebecca and Isaac in the old testament, not when they are formally wedded.

Wedding does not define marriage.

That woman don go inject marijuana come dey talk say na covid-19 vaccine

Snowx:
it's not..but it is truth..do good and desist from evil be ready for the end time

by the way, where did you get these things from the bible that there will be end time in our future?

Do you realize that scriptures were written approximately 2000 years ago and the writers didn't have you in mind when they were writing?

This is over 2000 years now, where is the end time let's be realistic?

Jonathan39:
Face your fears and repent cos I sense fear in your write up, and that is because you are not ready. Self deception won't save anyone that day.

yes oga intimidator i hear you.

Shame nor dey catch you say you dey use bible intimidate people, when you won repent from that one you were you dey say make i repent?

Johnboo!

Naturally, anyone believing that there is a God will have this desire to serve him in whatever capacity, but by the time you are going to the extreme due to your desire to serve God...

Wrath from where, how many pastor don see wrath since?

Your not going to church does not stop you from being saved

CodeTemplar:
So it is his fane that's arousing the destructive envy? I pity your life.

Me envy of fame?
Fame my foot

That is black man mentality, I'll rather be anonymous, if you know what famous people are going through you won't say this

CodeTemplar:
So it is okay to sponsor what one doesn't believe in? That's why we are where we are today. Total switch off of the intellect when we hate the subject.

i will say this again

John 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there:

This marriage wasn't a Christian marriage, infact there was nothing like Christianity at that time, but guess what? Jesus sponsored the best wine for that marriage, that is what someone with a good heart will do.
Assist or help a love one irrespective of whether that person is having the same religious beliefs with yours or not.

CodeTemplar:
In Bishops family there are other millionaires.

like who?
Are these billionaires public figures like the Bishop?
If there is any such billionaires then they shouldn't allow the community of Muslims according to the op, to fend for an old woman who was suppose to be a family member as if she was begging to be sponsored, including the bishop himself.

Why is the focus only on a man who doesn't believe in Islam to start with.

the focus is not only on the Bishop.
Everyone in that family who God has blessed so much like the Bishop were suppose to take responsibility for the welfare of that woman.

@bold, why should he sponsor the destruction of a soul he should be loving? Trying to make the woman and he beliefs Oyedepo's financial responsibility, in order to blame him is daft at best. It is like begging a staunch Muslim for ogogoro money.

really?
Let me ask you, if you have an aged mum who desires to go for her whatever religious pilgrimage and you are blessed with the means to assist her won't you assist her without comparing the money you will spend for her to ogogoro money?
Saying her begging a family member who is Christian to sponsor her Islamic creed is like begging a staunch Muslim for ogogoro money does not follow as embarking on a religious pilgrimage isn't the same as drinking alcohol.

OK, the children to this same woman says they want to be pastors and you are quick to sponsor them to become pastors. What stop you from sponsoring her, is it because she is Muslim?
That amount to religious discrimination, faith consciousness and perpetual selective favoritism which should not be heard that someone like a Bishop, man of God is practicing with people of his household, Even God himself will frown

Charleys:
Will a Muslim sponsor a Christian to Jerusalem?
Why not?

ofcourse yes!

Charleys:
At the bolded, why would the "bishop" do that?

1. According to the op, the woman in a Muslim.
2. Muslims consider prilgrimage as one of their greatest religious obligation.
3. The woman in question is the Bishop's step mum and a family member
4. She was in need of a sponsorer
5. The Bishop had more than enough to sponsor her
6. The Bishop is a public figure and wouldn't want people to see him as a religious bigot and being discriminative against non Christians by refusing to sponsor her when the woman was in need simply because she is a Muslim

Heartbender:
So dining with sinners is tantamount to supporting their religious beliefs which may include, but not limited to, sponsoring their idolatrous journeys overseas? Who do you this thing?

who is talking about Jesus dinning with sinners why bringing sinners into this conversation, was this late step mum of Bishop oyedepo a sinner, what's her crime for being a Muslim?

I said unbelievers not sinners.

Luke 7:36 And one of the Pharisees desired him that he would eat with him. And he went into the Pharisee's house, and sat down to meat.

who were Pharisees in the bible
Were they not unbelievers of Jesus Christ who were never part of Jesus disciples?

If Bishop Oyedepo had tried to convince this woman to join Christianity and she says no, common sense demands that he should respect her religious view and threat her like a mother.
If she says she want to go to mecca there is nothing wrong for the Bishop to sponsor her trip as a mother. Infact, that single act alone may cause the woman to have a rethink

The very thing this Oyedepo is teaching you people na God go help Nigeria

DamZik:
Are you saying it is all who confess Jesus as their Saviour that will make Heaven?

John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

That means there is no limitation to the number of people who are willing to be saved by simply believing. Meaning, if everyone on this earth are willing to believe, then they are all saved.

Does that means whatever they do or don't do after they give their lives to Jesus doesn't matter? I also want to learn from you sir.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Do you see that?
Keeping the law has nothing to do with your faith or belief in Christ, so it doesn't really matter.
But however, if a Christian choose not to keep the law and commit sin, then he will face the consequence of his actions here on this earth.

On the issue of calling altar call frequently, it is not only necessary but also important. It is only unnecessary if someone comes out twice or more and that will amount to ignorance (lack of knowledge). This is common to new converts. My friend use to do that when he was newly converted until I schooled him. Then, he could come out twice in a single service but he has outgrown that stage now. In my church, we have special studies for new converts.

it depend on what the person is coming out for.
If the alter call is calling for people to come out and confess their sins and repent, then it is very necessary to call it from time to time.
But if the alter call is calling for people to give their lives to Christ, then should be conducted for only unbelievers like Muslims and other non Christians.
A situation were a pastor is calling Christians to give their lives to Christ again, i don't know what he is doing.

Note : To give your life to Christ and to repent from sin they are two different things.

I think the one that should be a source of concern is commercialising the grace and gift of God. That's evil and AntiChrist principle. However, there has never been and will never be a perfect system anywhere on earth until Jesus comes to take us home. A fact.

it will be very difficult to commercialize the grace of God when the gospel truth is rightly divided like what I'm saying here

On the issue of Pastors, it seems like you had been decieved by a fake Pastor before. If you close your eyes so that 99 bad people could pass, you won't know when the one good person will also pass. Remember not the former things and move forward with God. God bless you.

God bless you too