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Plus10:
Jesus said in Matthew 24:14 that the end will come when the gospel has been preached to all nations of the Earth.My question is "are there nations or places where the gospel has not been preached?

understand how people view the world as that time Jesus was on earth.

1. The fastest means of transportation back then was horse, donkey or camel : meaning, there was a certain limited distance one could cover
2. Because men could not travel far, they tend to believe that the world ends at their immediate environment they can see. That means, for instance, the Jews living in that area of the ancient Israel in those days will never in their wildest imagination believe that continents like Africa, Asia, America, Australia, etc exist because there was no possible means they could travel far.

So when Jesus mentioned the world in that scripture he was referring to the standpoint of the coverage of their view based on the distance men could travel, he was not referring to the world in total.

To that note : Jesus and his disciples travelled from one city to another preaching the gospel of the kingdom, they started from Galilee preaching and were traveling to Jerusalem by foot, it was like traveling from Ibadan to Lagos by foot(based on the map).
That distance was enough for Jesus to say the gospel of the kingdom must be preached to all the earth because to them, that distance was all the earth.

After the gospel of the kingdom was preached by Jesus and his disciples who covered that little distance referred to as all the earth, Jesus was crucified at Jerusalem, that crucifixion was the end.
That crucifixion was what Jesus meant by saying then shall the end come.

karo93:
Romans 10.9-10 says it all;
Steps to be saved....

1. If thou shalt confess Jesus as LORD
2. Believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead

John 3.16 says those that believe in him will not perish....

Thats all.... Anyone that believes is a christian as long as he continues to believe.

So an armed robber and kidnapper that already believes in Jesus is a christian.....an irresponsible, uncommitted one at that but he believes.....


The souls we should be celebrating that we are winning should be those that did not previously believe.

Living like christ should be as a result of believing in christ and being saved....not the criteria or steps to take to be saved. As you said there can be holy muslims and buddhist and hindu living like christ in the sense of the word but do not believe

you are on point sir

timothydare:
pls read Mathew 6:9,10
pls take note of verse 10.
Jesus asked his disciples to pray for Gods will to be done on earth as it is in heaven.
pls read Revelation 14:1
take note 144,000.will enjoy heavenly hope.
pls read. psalm 37:29
the righteous will possess d earth
take note.d earth
and live forever on it

divide 144,000 by the 12 tribes of Israel how many tribes do you have?
Ofcourse 12 thousand.
Are you part of the 12 thousand?
If yes what tribe do you belong?
Benjamin, Judah or Levite?

timothydare:
the kingdom is in heaven.
we as humans are beneficiaries.
some will rule with Jesus in heaven. some will rule here on earth

excuse me, who are the some and what scripture did you ger this from?

rottennaija:
Again, you are sidestepping my question. I didn't ask if it is now done, I asked at the time of Jesus saying those words, was God will done in heaven back then?

My question is with particular emphasis on verse 10, at the time of Jesus asking his disciples to pray that God's will be done on earth, was Gods will done in heaven at that time?

cc: paxonel

very valid question

ruffhandu:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New International Version (NIV)

9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

what if a believer indulge in homosexuality or any sin at all is this scripture suggesting that the Christian or believer will not inherit the kingdom of God?

timothydare:
Read Mathew 24:4-14
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Pls read.

Why did Jesus said in Matthew 24:34 that the generation of the disciples he was talking to will not pass away until all the things he told them in that chapter be fullfilled?

Can you explain?

Maximus69:
According to Jesus, each Christian is fully competent and completely equipped for the work he recruited us!

So anytime you see one of my brothers in the field ministry, know now that if he can't satisfy your curiosity, the same will be the case with me!

All Jehovah's Witnesses globally have the same line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10

None of us is better than the other, we're all students of the greatest counselor who ever lived! Matthew 10:25

Thanks!

By this you mean that if an exam is conducted for everyone in your kingdom hall pertaining to what is being thought everyone will score 100% ?

timothydare:
Some bible prophecy r yet 2 fulfil
Some have come 2 pass.

OK,
Where does your paradise belong, has it been fulfilled or it is yet to be fulfilled?

Maximus69:
It's now 100 years that Jehovah's Witnesses have been coming around to knock on your door, expecting you will have a listening ear.

You just said they failed to answer your question and i'm one of them. So that means you need not bother asking me questions my brothers can't answer.

All you need now is suit yourself!

you know you don't preach to convince people to join your faith, you allow them to see reasons, whether they join or not

may be you are more knowledgeable than some or do you expect all Jehovah witnesses to know enough to answer all questions?

If you have answers to the question, you can say it here. Is your paradise today or is it coming tomorrow ?

Maximus69:
2Peter 3:3-5

Leave that question for our friends who have noticed the fruit of God's holy spirit in our midst.

We are still keeping in touch with them, but as for persons like you, i'll advise you keep the faith you're having at present if you're sure it will lead you to salvation!

God bless you!

the emboldened is the same question I'm asking even to the general Christianity not just only among Jehovah witnesses.
Why are Christians keeping hoping that something will lead them to their heaven or salvation?
Is it that heaven is coming in the future or they are not sure that heaven is now?

Because, the answer to this question influence greatly how we approach issues that affect us presently

timothydare:
what's the question?

when is your paradise coming,
Has it come already or it will come in the future?

Jehovah witnesses confuses the concept of God's kingdom a lot. The day i asked them a simple question they could not answer

omask:
Maybe you don't understand ENGLISH.
Go and check dictionary for the meaning of lockdown before I will talk to you.

that is a ridiculous excuse.
What stop him from indicating to the government that he can heal and he want to go to any of these centres to heal, who is stopping him?
Did lockdown hold any medical personnel from going to any isolation centres to render help or is healing not a form of help?

Keep cooking excuses for these pastors to your own peril.

what is this man saying?
Has he gone to any isolation facility and they didn't allow him to see a covid-19 patient?

who is this WHO, and what is this WHO saying?

For this reason, social distancing level 2 activated.
Omo man must survive.

Anas09:
Okay, if this is what you mean, then yes. But you went out right saying God does not want us calling Him

in the context of what i have said in the op. Example is the growing case of covid -19 announced by the NCDC. But for proper distinction and understanding, first
i quoted Romans 12:13 and John 3:16 to put a distinction to where God want us to call him. Anything order than the case mentioned in these scriptures which is everlasting life, God do not want us to call him for anything else such as the growing case of covid -19. He want us to learn how to solve these problems ourselves.

Some Nigerians, they will see the topic of the thread they will not bother to read through with the mind of trying to understand what the op is saying, the next thing they will jump into the thread and start insulting the op, a sign that some is terribly wrong with the minds of some people

Anas09:
Is it YHWH who told you not to call on Him or tbis is just you trying to teach your mind? Reason I asked is, He said we shd call upon Him

Jeremiah 33:3 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

Psalms 50:15 And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.
There are 58 passages in the Bible where either God commanded us to call upon him for help and when people called on God. When did that change?

once again, to call upon God is commendable.
But check what you are calling him for. Otherwise if you call him for the wrong thing, he may not answer you.

Anas09:
What has Ephesians 2:8 has to do with Calling on God for anything.
John 15:5 ...for without me ye can do nothing. We are nothing without God.

OK,
From your write up, obviously you are an atheist and may not be conversant with the bible.
It's OK!

John 15:5 implies that for without Jesus Christ, mankind will die, and when you die you can do nothing
Ephesians 2:8 says we are saved(from death) by grace through faith.

So, both scriptures are invariably saying the same thing

Anas09:
Your write up is baseless. You said God will not save us from the spirit of death called Coronavirus,

that is, if he choosed to.
But since, many of these people who have died God did not save them, that means God has not choosed to save them. And i can assure you that many of them prayed with faith, but they still die inspite their faith.

but you quoted a scripture where God is saying 'Call on me and be saved'.

yes!
That is because God only want us to call him when we want to be saved from eternal death, not this death caused by corona virus which isn't permanent, remember Christians will rise again just like Christ has risen.

You asked 'saved from what?' and you by yourself said 'saved from death.
Ah Bros.

because i wanted people to know that we are saved from eternal death, not this kinda death caused by corona virus.

So you see, i don't contradict myself

So, God says when in trouble call on me ans I will.save you, but you said God is a lair.

I depend on the trouble.
There are some kinda of trouble we face but deep within us we know they are trouble we could solve by ourselves, why then are we calling God.
I mean, you are faced with exam why calling God when you were suppose to be reading your books?
Why calling God when you were suppose to sanitize your hand, put on face mask and practice social distancing?
But the trouble of eternal death that is the trouble we can call God and that is the trouble he sent Jesus to come and die for

I am ready for your insults. Fire on.

you didn't insult me, so i will never insult you

NockMedia:
LOL is it pencil you want me to use and draw it back?
Come on, man

it's ok,
I'm happy i was able to clarify myself, you don't need to do anything

Jashub:
Oga pack...and while you're packing get a job (a decent job).

na your whole family jobless, that's why you were so frustrated enough to jump into a thread you didn't understand.

Idiot!

I will so insult your miserable life, next time you learn your lesson.

Monkey

NockMedia:
Better. Thanks for the clarification. Your write-up was poorly written.

no!
It wasn't poorly written, it was summarized.
Now that you were reasonable enough to seek clarification unlike the foolish idiot called Jashub who didn't ask for clarification but becoming emotional and start insulting even when he didn't understand, can you please draw back your insult

Jashub:
[s][/s]... Jobless youth trying to find relevance online. Oga pack well

pig adult trying to be relevant on a thread he can't understand, with your fish brain

Get lost!

NockMedia:
No offense intended but are you for real?
I quote you: "For you believers (Christians) you already have the everlasting life in you why then are you calling God?"
Your mumu, is in a class of its own. Stop creating topics you know nothing about.

what are you insinuating?
That believers do not have everlasting life in them or what?

Look, everything i say here are scriptural i do not say things on my own.
Believers already have everlasting life they shouldn't call God for what they already have.

Ephesians 2: 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God.

Do you have anything else to say?

Jashub:
Na you mama defeat me...abi?Mtchww, jobless youth.

your mama were born you na dumb!
Old idiot

Yes,

Jashub:
[s][/s] Rubbish. A clearly an evidence of foggy thinking

can you explain why you say so?

Ofcourse, you can't!

Who then is now the rubbish?

You are defeated my guy, go rest

Yes