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Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 7:58am On Jan 29, 2020
[quote author=blueAgent post=86144038]Sorry for scolding you, I didn't know you were referring to them.

I have been out of the thread because they were not making sense at all, so i didn't bother to look who was talking.
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 7:54am On Jan 29, 2020
Daejoyoung:
Bro l think he is on your side in this arguement. He wasn't referring to you, but to the guy you quoted.
OK,
Thanks, I didn't know that I'm sorry.
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 6:20pm On Jan 28, 2020
blueAgent:
I wonder. some people just wakeup and compose any trash that enter their head.
you are the one talking trash cos you have not come out clean to prove how trash my statement is.

Don't comment on what you don't understand
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 7:40am On Jan 24, 2020
Amujale:
The Jesus character is a continuation of the worshiping of the Soter image.

Why are they keen on worshiping Soter's image?

They are worshiping Soter's image because they consider Ptolemy (I) as their saviour due to the senseless invasions he and his family partook in North East of the continent.

Jesus is a fictitious character that was invented by the Romans in the first century.

Christianity is a fake Hellenistic religion that was deliberately manufactured by fourth century Romans in order to use as a tool of propaganda.
you are a big joke grin grin
No one will listen you if you keep diverting from the real issue.

Are these images you upload here a reliable source to buttress your point?

where are the authors you quoted to arrive at your conclusions?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 7:32pm On Jan 23, 2020
Amujale:
Maybe you forgot to read previous responses or perhaps you couldnt be bother.

My advice is for you to go back and read through the thread as theres much evidence and sources there.
I say upload one article from a reliable source to buttress if not all atleast some of all these your talk or back off, If you don't I disfollowed this thread immediately and it becomes all waste of time grin
You can't just come to nairaland and write rubbish and you expect reasonable and sensible people to read and be convinced. grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 3:00pm On Jan 23, 2020
Amujale:
You are missing the point.

We dont need to replace the bible or the Quran with anything other than the real history.

Both Christianity and Islam exist on the back of their failed attempts to destroy and or basterdise the real history.

Truth is the only proper solution for a lie.

That is to say, we ought to stop sourcing from falsehood and instead source from African history.

Therefore, we ought to bin their false narratives and revitalise the real and proper history.

Christian and Islamic narratives exist so as to intentionally mislead people away from recognising the existence of real and proper history.

Recognition of real and proper history leads to sourcing from real and proper history.

Sourcing from real and proper history instead of the falsehood inside Abrahamic text allows for the enviroment that will usher in real time progress in all aspects of our daily activities.
all I'm saying is you should have online reference to point out your claims atleast, rather than saying things on your own.

You know anyone can come up with a story that some sort of book was plagiarized to write the bible.
Talk is cheep, but bring out references or proofs are hard grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m):
Amujale:
For instance, when the authors of the Christian bible wrote that Jerusalem will be surrounded and leveled to the ground, that had already happened before they chose to add that story.


The only difference is that it wasnt called Jerusalem at the time, and their were no people known as Jews back then, there was the militaristic Masionic movements and various other groups of Palestinian movements that were opposed to Roman rule.
you are just floatingly saying things without quoting where you read them in the bible grin

And, you mean Palestinian movements opposed to Roman rule in the same bible that recorded that Jerusalem will be levelled to the ground?

grin grin grin grin grin grin

Tell me more
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m):
Amujale:
The books of Egyptology are history textbooks that one can safely source in terms of situations and stories relating to the North Eastern region of our continent, Ancient Sudanese history is equally important. Try not to stray away from the below authors in our study on history of KM.T, as most African historians always source from these particular authors, as they are world reknowned and are amongst the world leading authorities in Egyptology.

ℹThe Book of Coming Forth by Day authored by Maulana Karenga.

ℹThe Book of Going Forth by Day authored by R.O Faulkner.

According to olden days Egyptian, Roman and Greek history, the first group of worshipers to ever refer to themselves Christians were the Roman-Greco followers of the Church of Serapis Christus.

The Romans manufactured their version of Christianity in the 4th century, assimilating the Serapis image, status of 'Christ' and all of their concepts in the process.

Furthermore, the Roman authors of Abrahamic religious text copied Horus own personal text and gave it to their fake character to use to impersonate a real African God.
you have not answered the question : how is book of death benefiting people of this generation?

Do you realize that if there are sustainable benefits of reading this book of the dead you will have more people reading it like the way we have more people reading the bible today which answers every question about life?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 6:10pm On Jan 22, 2020
musicwriter:
Again, everything in your bible is plagiarism. The whole God concept were copied from older books and re-written by heathens (people who don't know God) then the older books destroyed.

Unfortunately, the message the ancients were trying to pass us has been lost in European religious dogmatism. If you find anything useful inside, give credit to the ancients.

Your bible is a copy of copy of copy of copy of copy of copy of copy................

The coupling of the Bible from various books

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWUMIhwgRAo
it's not enough talking anyone can talk grin

Let all these things you claim be widely accepted by most people worldwide, then come back and i will believe you grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 2:16pm On Jan 22, 2020
musicwriter:
so nobody knows what the original ancient African authors prophesied.
you mean, there are no prophecy or sign or any sort to prove to people of today that what was documented in the book is true?

Meanwhile, there are prophesies in the bible which predicted something that is trending today, a proof that what was documented in the bible is true.

Now, judge from your mind, will you rather believe a truth without any proof over another truth that comes with an overwhelming evidence?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 6:16am On Jan 22, 2020
musicwriter:
The information isn't popular because the slave masters won't want you know that. If you lived just 300 hundred years ago, you'll have been a slave and your slave master won't want you to know about Horus because if taught that Horus died and resurrected before Jesus, you won't believe Jesus anymore. So, they instead imposed their own God on their slaves, and as a descendant of slaves you inherited an indoctrination. That's why.

And that's also why you're unable to set your mind free because the whole intellect is now enslaved with LANGUAGE, EDUCATION, RELIGION. These 3 are not meant to be given to you by foreigners. When a foreigner gives you language, education and religion he can make you believe anything he/she want.

You have not read the book of the dead. What you read is like a commentary about the book of the dead on Wikipedia. View the second video, it explained the scene in picture. But that's just a small portion of the book. There you have the concept of judgement after death, heaven, hell, resurrection, eternal life, salvation.

Should you need the book, email me as earlier advised. It doesn't take reading one or two pages online to set yourself free. It took me two good years of reading to figure everything out. Look for books about the origin of religion and you'll discover the thousands of years of gestation period that birthed your Christianity from older belief systems. Nothing in Christianity is an original idea.

Below are similarities that historians have been able to glean from the story of Horus VS Jesus imitation. By the way, Horus full name is Horus Krst.

Enjoy.......

Horus Krst (7,000 years old) VS Jesus Christ (2,000 years old).

• HORUS KRST is the Father seen in the Son = JESUS CHRIST says, "I and My Father are one. He that seeth Me, seeth Him that sent Me."

• HORUS KRST was the light of the world, the light that is represented by the symbolical eye, the sign of salvation = JESUS CHRIST claims to be the Son in whom the Father is revealed.

• HORUS KRST was the way, the truth, the life by name and in person = JESUS CHRIST is made to declare that He is the light of the world.

• HORUS KRST was the plant, the shoot, the natzar = JESUS CHRIST is made to assert that he is the way, the truth, and the life.

• HORUS KRST says: It is I who traverse the heaven; I go round the Sekhet-Arru (the Elysian Fields); Eternity has been assigned to me without end. Lo! I am heir of endless time and my attribute is eternity = JESUS CHRIST is made to say: "I am the true vine."

• HORUS KRST says: "I open the Tuat that I may drive away the darkness." = JESUS CHRIST says: "I am come down from Heaven. For this is the will of the Father that everyone who beholdeth the Son and believeth in Him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day." He, too, claims to be the lord of eternity.

• HORUS KRST says: I am equipped with thy words O Ra (the father in heaven) and repeat them to those who are deprived of breath. These were the words of the father in heaven = JESUS CHRIST says: "I am come a light unto the world."

• HORUS KRST baptized with water by Anup = JESUS CHRIST baptized with water by John.

• Anup, the Baptizer = John the Baptist.

• Aan, a name of the divine scribe = John the divine scribe.

• HORUS KRST born in Annu, the place of bread = JESUS CHRIST born in Bethlehem, the house of bread.

• HORUS KRST the Good Shepherd with the crook upon his shoulders = JESUS CHRIST the Good Shepherd with the lamb or kid upon his shoulder.

• The Seven on board the boat with HORUS KRST = The seven fishers on board the boat with JESUS CHRIST.

• HORUS KRST as the Lamb = JESUS CHRIST as the Lamb.

HORUS KRST as the Lion = JESUS CHRIST as the Lion.

• HORUS KRST identified with the Tat or Cross = JESUS CHRIST identified with the Cross.

• HORUS KRST of twelve years = JESUS CHRIST of twelve years.

• HORUS KRST made a man by thirty years in his baptism = JESUS CHRIST made a man by thirty years in his baptism.

• HORUS KRST the Krst = JESUS CHRIST the Christ.

• HORUS KRST the manifesting Son of God = JESUS CHRIST the marufesting Son of God.

• The trinity of Atum the Father, HORUS KRST the Son, and Rathe Holy Spirit = The trinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

• The first HORUS KRST as child of the Virgin, the second as Son of Ra = JESUS CHRIST as the Virgin's child, the Christ as Son of the Father.

• HORUS KRST the sower and Set the destroyer in the harvestfield = JESUS CHRIST the sower of the good seed and Satan the sower of tares.

• HORUS KRST carried off by Set to the summit of Mount Hetep = JESUS CHRIST spirited away by Satan into an exceedingly high mountain.

• Set and HORUS KRST contending on the Mount = JESUS CHRIST and Satan contending on the Mount.

• The Star, as announcer of the child HORUS KRST = The Star in the East that indicated the birthplace of JESUS CHRIST.

• HORUS KRST the avenger = JESUS CHRIST who brings the sword.

• HORUS KRST as Iu-em-Hetep, who comes with peace = JESUS CHRIST the bringer of peace.

• HORUS KRST the afflicted one = JESUS CHRIST the afflicted one.

• HORUS KRST as the type of life etemal = JESUS CHRIST the type of eternal life.

• HORUS KRST as Iu-em-Hetep, the child teacher in the temple = The child JESUS CHRIST as teacher in the Temple.

• The mummy bandage that was woven without seam = The vesture of the Christ without a seam.

• Twelve followers of HORUS KRST as Har-Khutti = Twelve followers of JESUS CHRIST as the twelve disciples.

• The revelation written down by Aan (Tehuti) the scribe of divine words = The revelation by John the divine.

• The saluter Aani, who bears witness to the word of Ra and to the testimony of HORUS KRST = John who bears witness to the Word of God and the testimony of JESUS CHRIST Christ.

• The secret of the Mysteries revealed by Taht-Aan = The secret of the Mysteries made known by John.

• HORUS KRST the Morning Star = JESUS CHRIST the Morning Star.

• HORUS KRST who gives the Morning Star to his followers = JESUS CHRIST who gives the Morning Star to his followers.

• The name of Ra on the head of the deceased = The name of the Father written on the forehead.

• The Paradise of the Pole Star-Am-Khemen = The Holy City lighted by one luminary, that is neither the Sun nor the Moon = the Pole Star.

• The Har-Seshu, or servants of HORUS KRST = The servants of JESUS CHRIST Christ.

Source: The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You to Read - by Tim C. Leedom.
are there any statement made by anyone in the book which foresee anything happening in this present moment of our lives?

How is book benefiting this generation?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m):
musicwriter:
It requires research and critical analysis. Once you apply logic to the bible, your eyes would begin to open immediately.

Are you ready to make use of your rational mind? Are you ready to read it in a book? Because its even in drawing for all to see!!

Everything from the bibles concept of heaven, hell, resurrection are all found in the book of coming forth by day and night a.k.a the book of the dead.
In the below drawing made several thousands of years before anybody heard of Jesus, Horus (the resurrected son of God Osiris) is seen holding a cross while taking a dead man through the gate of hell. The emblem of cross signified SALVATION before Jesus!!.
Before anybody heard of Jesus, we already had an emblem of a cross in Africa called ankh and it meant SALVATION or ETERNAL LIFE. But they've lied to you that the cross originated from Christianity. This's one example of how EDUCATION is used as a tool of enslavement.

As a result, Europeans also succeed in hijacking your original spiritual system and giving you one designed in their image. You no longer have any recollection of your ancient spiritual system because they've set the meaning and contex for God in your head. But you don't realize he who sets the context for God, sets your spiriual truth.This's how RELIGION becomes a tool of enslavement.

Now, let's return to the story of the dead man and Horus....

Fortunately, the dead man made it through the gate of hell and Horus is seen taking him to the father (Osiris/God) on his throne because it was said that he (Horus) is the way, the truth and life. No one cometh to the father (Osiris) except by him. This's where the bible authors copied the concept.

Its in drawing for all to see!!

The scenario I narrated above could be seen in the attached picture and can also be viewed in the 2 short video clips below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxm4D0GDod0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu80lggYeYs

This information is contained in the book of the dead, which is now in a British museum. Should anybody need the full story, email: kemeticphilosophy@gmail
so why is this information not popular and widely accepted
Everything from the bibles concept of heaven, hell, resurrection are all found in the book
I have taken time to read through it on Wikipedia, there is nothing similar to the bible there

Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 6:27am On Jan 21, 2020
musicwriter:
Because I realized there're 3 tools to enslave someone or society. And they're 1. Language, 2. Education, 3. Religion.
the same tools can also be used to educate people and make them free as well
Let me jump straight to religion.

God is Chineke in Igbo. God is Olorun in Yoruba. In ancient Egypt in North Africa, God was called Ra and alao Osiris. I did some research and I realized that these African Gods predate Yaweh and created the world and also already saved me before Jesus. Yaweh is not older than 4 thousand years.
what were the methods for your research?
Are the methods widely known and verifiable?
However, 5,000 years before anybody heard of Yaweh and Jesus, an African Savior called Horus was born by a virgin, had 12 disciples, did miracles, such as healing the sick, raising the dead, feeding multitude. He was killed by his enemy called Set. On the third day, he resurrected from the dead into hevean where he sits at the right hand of the father (Osiris) to judge the world.

Horus was called the eternal one, prince of peace, the way, the truth, and life. And it was said that no one cometh to the father (Osiris) except by him. And they left us a primary source document to prove it.

Once I learned the above, I realized I was a blind fool worshipping a European imitation of Horus called Jesus.
ok,
How are you sure that this information is true?

Do you have any life experience or sign to prove the validity of this?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 12:34am On Jan 21, 2020
musicwriter:
Of course, he'll be executed. Is there anything Jesus can do about it?
like Jesus rescuing him?
why will Jesus do that?
However, you can do us a small miracle, such as having president Buhari give him a state pardon.
that will amount to obstruction of justice as the loved ones of those women he murdered will not be happy.

And me, I will be very happy to see him face the law to serve as deterent to those who go about committing such kinda crimes.
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 12:23am On Jan 21, 2020
musicwriter:
I was once a Christian like you when I was a blind fool.
so, what makes you now realize you was a blind fool?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 8:04pm On Jan 20, 2020
musicwriter:
.... the story of your Jesus
my Jesus and not your Jesus? grin

How will a non Christian have a clue of what Christians are saying.
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 7:34pm On Jan 20, 2020
1Sharon:
* ex murderer.

Are human laws above God's law?

Who are you to demand he face the consequences, when he has already been cleansed in His blood?

Keep calling him names while he smiles to heaven.
but he will be executed?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 5:38pm On Jan 20, 2020
1Sharon:
He has already been discharged and aquitted in God's eyes.

He is now a new creature. Old things are irrelevant.

When he is put to death, he gets to go to heaven and live eternally.

Hallelujah.
I know this.
But this isn't what i meant by he should face the law as a murderer.

No one is above the law you know?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 12:38pm On Jan 20, 2020
1Sharon:
Get it right. *ex- murderer.
that he has been discharged and acquainted?
Christianity EtcRe: The Killer Gracious David West Is Covered By Grace by paxonel(m): 5:59pm On Jan 19, 2020
Hello!
He has been covered by grace from childhood till now he does not need to repent for him to be covered by grace.
But that doesn't change the fact that he is a murderer therefore he should face the law.
Christianity EtcRe: My Uncle Runs A Motherless Babies Home, But I Don't Like Its Operation by paxonel(m): 5:50pm On Jan 19, 2020
The questions you should ask:
is your uncle feeding those hungry kids to their satisfaction before taking left overs home?
Then he has not done anything wrong.

Does these kids truly have parents who are still alive? If yes, does their parents agree that your uncle should take care of them in the orphanage?
Then your uncle has not done anything wrong.
Christianity EtcRe: Oyedepo Owns 5 Private Jets, 3 Universities, Only A Fool Will Pay First Fruit To by paxonel(m): 2:12pm On Jan 19, 2020
OnPointMan:
grin You didn't understand my comment. Am stylishly supporting him jokingly.

Even jews are not paying tithe today, na Christians wey no get 'Levite' still dey pay.
Ok, I understand now.

You are on point
Christianity EtcRe: Oyedepo Owns 5 Private Jets, 3 Universities, Only A Fool Will Pay First Fruit To by paxonel(m): 12:39pm On Jan 19, 2020
OnPointMan:
Ravibes, warn yourself o. Let the magas keep paying. Can't you see they are happy and willing to keep paying?
and whoever has noted their folly and is willing to speak out, please let them speak out too, it may help.

I know of a person on NL who used to say if i pay how does that concern you?
But today, after putting every reasoning into consideration he is now the one discouraging people to pay.

So, all the speak out somehow change people's minds gradually we may not know grin
Christianity EtcRe: Oyedepo Owns 5 Private Jets, 3 Universities, Only A Fool Will Pay First Fruit To by paxonel(m): 12:30pm On Jan 19, 2020
girigonri:
Mind of hater.


Is your first fruit.?

is it your money?
you sound like a fraudulent person who is exposed the next thing you begin to question the person who exposed you,
is it your money i defrauded?

Corrupt Nigerian

Christianity EtcRe: I Saw A Mermaid And Merman Having Sex by paxonel(m):
This kind op sef, dem nor get stream and mermaid for the ogodo oyinbo were you dey before?

You know say na this kind things Nigerians like to dey hear from pastors mouth wey dey make pastors get money buy private jet.
Dem like to dey see all these kind fictions for African magic too
Imagin the number of people were don comment on the thread now now.

If na education and reality the op dey talk about nobody go comment o.

Christianity EtcRe: Pastor Dr. JS Yusuf Anoints Pant/Bra With A Print Of His Face To Attract Men by paxonel(m): 6:42pm On Jan 18, 2020
Aahh!!!

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Vs Sheffield United (1 - 1) On 18th January 2020 by paxonel(m): 4:44pm On Jan 18, 2020
How long shall arsenal fans going to await for these children playing on pitch to grow?

Fans are not patient with these children o
Christianity EtcRe: Will Only Hundred And Forty Four (144) Go To Heaven? by paxonel(m): 10:20pm On Jan 15, 2020
Confused watchtower people
Christianity EtcRe: Some Misconceptions That Is Causing Set-back In Today's Christianity by paxonel(op): 2:17pm On Jan 13, 2020
Yes
Christianity EtcRe: The HONORABILITY Of Marriage. by paxonel(m): 2:13pm On Jan 13, 2020
johnwell:
Can you kindly read with understanding? Have you seen that phrase in my write up?
ok,
That means you will not advice them to continue?
Christianity EtcRe: Some Misconceptions That Is Causing Set-back In Today's Christianity by paxonel(op): 8:33pm On Jan 12, 2020
mrZENographer:
Yes
1 Cor 15: 52: In a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trump
..... the dead (in Christ) shall be raised incorruptible and we (alive) shall be changed

2 these 4: We that are alive shall not prevent them that are asleep (dead)...... and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we which are alive shall be caught up with them.
OK, let's use "1 cor 15" as an example for you to understand what I'm driving at.
The conclusion of that whole chapter when you read it from verse 35 down to the last verse 58 is that there is resurrection of the dead.
The chapter is trying to let us know that there is resurrection of the dead and not rapture.

1 Corinthians 15:35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

To answer this question, Paul explained it down to the last verse.
The question wasn't rapture, the question was is there resurrection of the dead?
Therefore that thing in 1 cor 15:52 is a parable and it interpretation explains resurrection of the dead, not rapture.

See also how Jesus Christ interprete one of his parables in Matthew 13:37-39

Most parables like these are like figure of speeches called Impersonification: That is, using terms like twinking of eye to mean death and resurrection : closing the eye is death and opening it again is resurrection.
Also, the last trump means the last moment of ones death which signifies a call using trumpet that it is time for the person to die.(still talking about resurrection of the dead).
And meet the lord in the air is also a parable which means to be in heaven.(the air or clouds signifies heaven)
In the real sense of that interpretation, the heaven that it is talking about is already here on this earth. The heaven is me and you, everyone believing in Christ.

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

So, we have been translated into heaven already
Christianity EtcRe: DSA, Please Come Back And Save Nigeria Christain From Trouble by paxonel(m): 3:19pm On Jan 12, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
paxonel, all you needed to have done was to look up DSA's track record. To have gone to research, check and/or look at a record of his past achievements, which would and/or could serve as a good and/or reliable indicator of the possible solutions DSA plans, has in mind for the country, and be a gauge for future performance.
OK, no wahalla.
I will research about the pastor

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