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Hydroxychloroquine and Azythromycin works faster.

I'm happy for him

BeLookingIDIOT:
So God exists because xtians shout JESUS! JESUS!

existence of God is a thing to of the mind

Cregiank:
Please do not take This as joke, that's what we all thought too, he is mature 24, so he would definitely know if he removed the clothe or not

if it bothers you that much stay awake through out the night and observe how his shirt is removed .

Simple

We still somewhere at the middle of the climbing peak

Mavinsoladele:
what of girls in the school?

you scored 292, next thing your mind is already on girls.
It seems you don't know what you want in life perhaps you are not well brought up.

Hopefully, you may be admitted by the time you see your first semester result, this your head were be like ekporoko so go bend reach ground.

Mumu!

This man is one of the false teachers who propagated the fake doctrine of end of the world and made millions of Nigerians believed so, covid -19 has reminded him his fears again.

Contrary to his teaching

Luke 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

The question : is the house of Jacob above the clouds beyond this world?

It's time for Nigerians to think and ask questions, know the truth and start taking their lives on this earth very seriously.

Now i know that a lot of Nigerians are going through hell.

See wetin buhari cause.

justino57:
CHINA HAS ACHIEVED ECONOMIC WORLD VICTORY BY CHEATING

He first created the Corona virus vaccine and kept it in his fridge until the economic economy of the whole world was brought down. China had become the hub of investors all over the world.
China left the virus in its Wuhan city and due to the tremendous deaths, the shares of the fleeing investors bought the price of the currency and the foreign investors and entrepreneurs ran away from their capital. China has already created and hidden the vaccine Took out and stopped the deaths of China in a single day. In this war, China lost some of its people but looted the wealth of the whole world. Today there has not been a single death, nor has the number of patients increased. Today this virus is circulating like the world.
Amazing also see the back of all those countries and cities where the Chinese have broken
Citizens used to spend. Today the whole world
Everyday is seeing its economy collapse. On 17 March, China's economy is getting stronger day by day.
This is an economic war in which China has won and is losing its life and property every day while fighting the world.
Wuhan to Beijing = 1152 km
Milan from Wuhan = 15000 km
Wuhan to New York = 15000 km

Corona no effect in nearby Beijing / Shanghai
But deaths in Italy, Iran, Europe countries and ruined the economy of the whole world.

All business areas of China are safe

Something is fishy,
America is not just blaming China.

10 tough questions from China: (must read question no. 6,7,8,9)

1) Where the whole world is being affected by this, why did it not spread anywhere in China except Wuhan? How did China's capital remain untouched by this?

2) Why did China hide from the whole world about the virus?

3) Why destroyed the initial sample of Corona?

4) Why did the doctor and the journalist who brought it up be silenced? Has the journalist been disappeared?

5) When other countries of the world asked to share information, why did they not share the information? Why refuse

6) Why was the Communist Director of WHO used to hide the corona from human to human? WHO Director was doing what he did in "Beijing (China)" in January ..... (Were you fixing the plan?)

7) "There is no need to issue any guideline for any international flight as it does not spread from human to human" .... WHO kept doing this tweet till 11 January. Why Today it has been proved that corona spreads from human to human… so why did the WHO lied ?

Why were 50,00,000 people sent from Wuhan "to different parts of the world" without medical examination ..

9) There was a minor case in Italy till 6 February. Suddenly Chinese 'We are Chinese, not a virus, embrace us.' Why did the world's tourist destination known as 'City of Love' come to embrace the people of Italy with placards

10) The whole world is looking at China and WHO with suspicion today and wonder if both China and WHO came to praise India on the same day! Is it a coincidence?

Way to dominate the world ??

Chinese Strategy: -

1. First created a virus and its medicine.

2. Then the virus spread.

3. Get hospitals built overnight (finally they were already ready), demonstrating their efficiency, ordering projects as well as equipment, renting labor, water and sewage networks, prefabricated building materials and a An impressive amount of stocks .. These were all part of that strategy.

4. As a result, anarchy along with viruses started spreading in the world, especially in Europe.

5. The economy of dozens of countries was quickly affected.

6. Production lines in factories in other countries closed.

7. Consequently a sharp fall in the stock market.

8. China quickly controlled the epidemic in its country. Overnight, new corona patients from Wuhan stopped. How is it possible when a country like Italy has not been able to handle this situation? After all, China was already ready.

9. As a result, the price of goods from which he buys oil etc. on a large scale.

10. China then immediately returned to production, while the world is at a standstill. While there has been an uproar in the world, has China started working in its factories? China started buying things that had fallen drastically and selling them whose price had increased drastically.

Now if you can't believe it ...
In 1999, read the book "Unrestricted War: China's Master Plan to Destroy America" ​​written by the Chinese colonies Qiao Liang and Wang Jiangsui !! * All these facts are there.

4

Just think about it…

How Russia and North Korea are completely free from Kovid 19? Because they are staunch allies of China. Not a single case was reported from these 2 countries. On the other hand South Korea / United Kingdom / Italy / Spain and Asia are severely affected. Because all of this is competitive in China ..

How did Wuhan suddenly free itself from the deadly virus?

China would say that their initial measures were too harsh and Wuhan was closed down to spread to other regions. But this answer is very funny .. Had it been so, it would not have spread to the rest of the countries and would have been limited to one city. It is 100% true that they are using anti-virus of the virus.

Why no one was killed in Beijing? Why only Wuhan? Interesting idea… Well, Wuhan is now open for business. America and all the above mentioned countries are financially devastated. Soon the US economy will collapse according to China's plan. China knows that it cannot defeat America militarily because at present, according to this America is the largest powerful country in the world.

So this is the world victory formula of China… Use virus to paralyze the economy and defense capabilities of other countries. Certainly Nancy Pelosi was made an assistant in this cause to compete with Trump. President Trump has always been describing how the Great American economy is improving on all fronts. Economic catastrophe was the only way to destroy his vision of creating AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. Nancy Pelosi was unable to impeach Trump. .... So they adopted this method of destroying Trump by releasing a virus in association with China. Wuhan was just a demonstration of the epidemic ... Now this virus has taken the epidemic to the extreme !!!

Chinese President Xi Jinping arrived in just one simple RM1 facemask to visit those effective areas, as President he should be covered from head to toe ..... but it was not so. They were already injected to resist any kind of damage from the virus. This means that the virus was being treated even before it was released.

Now if you argue that - Bill Gates had already predicted a virus outbreak in 2015… so the Chinese agenda cannot be true. So the answer is - yes, Bill Gates predicted it but that prediction was based on an actual virus outbreak and not man-made. Now China is also stating that the virus was foreseen so that its agenda matches that prediction and everything seems natural or automatic. Still, if this authentic fact seems artificial to you, then look ahead yourself… China’s next step will be to control the world economy by buying stocks now from countries facing the brink of a declining economic economy… later China will announce that their medical researchers have found a cure to destroy the virus.
Now China has stocks of other countries in the armories of its armies and these countries will soon be slaves to their master under compulsion !!

And yes, one more thing…
The Chinese doctor who revealed the virus was also silenced forever by the Chinese authorities.....
THINK!

Just as I earlier anticipated..

you have said a lot of things without one single online reference.

We are watching you.

Innoxxacs:
PIN THIS ON FP

exactly.

laclastilala, seun

lepasharon:
What concerns babalawo with corona? Does he claim to serve a miracle working God?

isn't it miracle that they claim to do blood money for people?

spartan117:
Liar.
You are being used as a disposable pawn and you can't even see it.

who is this one talking?
I just quoted scripture and when you responded you ignored the scripture neither did you put up any scripture saying otherwise and you think it works that way?
Keep deceiving yourselves

You these bush people when will you start having sense?

There is nothing like end time, this world continues forever no end. Luke 1:33

But the question is, if things truly happen miraculously the way Africans think, why is that no pastor you ever know in Nigeria has healed one corona virus patient, just one?
If things do happen miraculously why are all the babalowos and juju priests running away?where are all the witches and wizards in Africa if they truly exist, why is it that non of these powers have come out to challenge corona virus?

You know, we have been deceiving ourselves in this Africa for too long.
Our pastors and imams deceiving us,
Babalawos and juju deceiving us,
Even our university lecturers(the only hope) using African tradition to deceive us.

I remember a statement made by the former American secretary to state Hiliary Clinton when she visited Nigeria years ago, she said Nigeria needed strong institutions not strong politians or strong pastors or imams.

Truly, our religious institutions are weak in terms of inculcating knowledge from the bible and Quran, hence pastors keep exploiting church members
Our universities are weak.
Our traditional institutions are weak.
Our political parties are all thieves

What group of people are you directing your preaching to, Christians or non - Christians?

Kylekent59:
I saw them in my area today. They came for disconnection.

I am still trying to figure out why some locations do have power supply more than others. Could it be because of industries, factories, business area... etc., but if so, that's not fair to others. It is cheating.

areas concentrated with shops, banks and industries are labelled commercial areas, these areas are located longer duration of power supply over the normal areas where residential homes are concerntrated.

Please, authorities should do something about this ikeja disco. I don't think there is anything bad for the management of these discos to channel most of their power supply duration to residential homes since industries, offices and shops are closing down in the wake of this stay at home order. People need to be kept at home entertained watching television, but when the entertainment is not there by way of frequent power shortage, trust Nigerians, they might use the boredom as excuse to leave their houses and this may aid possible spread of the virus within the community.

laclastilala, myndd44

Magnoliaa:
lol That was one of the reasons Obafemi Awolowo gave for leaving atheism in his days. Their acts, habits and everything mimics Christianity so much. They hold services, say ''prayers,'' read sermons from some book, in a worship place etc ... but not directed to a god.

He ran away from God to that lmao

Awolowo was more intelligent

budaatum:
After we feed the baby the beliefs, so, not by "default".

Eighteen years was the recommended age when one stops "inculcating", apparently

and after 18 years the child possibly remain a deviant what next, send him or her away to learn by experience?

Maximus69:
Belief connotes TRUST!

There's nothing you can do on this planet without a measure of TRUST (BELIEF).

Of course the child will eventually grow up to trust either what his/her parents taught him, friends in school, colleagues at work or circumstances surrounding him!

Gays and Lesbians don't just develop their own mindset to start trusting (believing) in same sex, someone somewhere sometime taught them!

Let's learn a lesson from Jesus' illustration about evil spirit, when one is driven out of someone's heart it searches for where to stay but when it couldn't find any, it returns to it's former residence, but this time with seven evil spirits more powerful than itself (just in case the one who drives it out may come back) then the condition of such a person becomes worse! Matthew 12:43-45

Lesson learnt
Ones minds should be filled as in fully equipped with with spiritual things always, otherwise demons looking for places to stay will meet the place empty and possess such a person! Ephesians 6:10-17

That's how most children are demonized, and when one decides to abandon what his/her Christian parents taught him/her, their condition worsen by the day!

That's why Christian parents make sure they equip their children right from infancy (2Timothy 3:15-17} God's word likens parents to 'archers' and children 'arrows'!


Training up a child requires much strength, the archer use all his strength to pull the bow before releasing the arrow, once the arrow leaves your hand, you're no more in control, but with the energy, focus and determination you invested it will certainly go straight to where you aim! Psalms 127:3-4

Exactly!
Mind building of a child largely comes from the parents and the say charity begins at home.
I have seen a lot of children coming from a well brought up home but they end up becoming wayward, could that still be the fault of the parents?

budaatum:
That's not true. Consider:

A baby has a brain and a mind but it has no beliefs until the likes of some inculcate their own beliefs in them.

at the long run, the baby will still grow up having beliefs, we are saying the same thing.

LordReed:
It seems you are the deluded one then because I challenge you to point out where I said religion only involves beliefs that has to do with a god.

sorry, may be i did not put it rightly. I intented to say you atheists see religion as anything that has to do with belief in god only. But you are seeing it in another dimension today that it is not just having belief in god only, but also a belief that is very important to a person or group .
Don't you see it that way?

herlecks:
Your teacher has not taught you the difference between the old covenant and the new covenant.

must you mock Christ before the world because there is new testament?

You don't need to castigate me without reason

my reason for castigating you should be very clear to you by now except you are pretending that you didn't hear me

because it is dangerous for you to do so,

taaaa!
Are you threatening me?

I have not offended you in any way nor have I sinned against you.

did i tell you I'm offended?
Take simple advice, come to the NCDC with your miracle crew and prove yourself you are there still talking

Did David operated under the new covenant? Let me correct you, there was no forgiveness of sin in the old covenant, the blood of goats can't take away sin. Don't you wonder why Christ and the apostles healed multitudes? Yet your pastors couldn't heal an ant? The only reason is ignorance. They don't know what Christ has done, and if the experienced try to enlighten them about things of the spirit which are facts they argue. That ignorance have they infused into your own mentality also. Hardly can you find a believer who really understands the Bible, this is the class of believers we are producing in our days, babes and infants, believers who don't know the difference between operations of Old and New covenants, the church continue to nurture babes, spiritual infants who play church without any relationship with Christ. They have never seen the Lord at any time, they don't know him, they lack revelation, all they play is church, children wearing spiritual diapers fed with milk of the word because strong meat would destroy their teeth, these children mock the word of God and true ministers of the gospel when their emotions has been hit by the truth, they defend their pastors without holding back because that's who they serve, churchgoers, these ones lack intimacy with God, they run around running down the things of God thinking they are fighting for him, zealous but lacking knowledge. Be careful.

you that is a mature believer oya come and try

LordReed:
You seem to use words you freely interpret their meaning. Define delusion.

i go for the first definition.

You have believed falsely all the while that religion only involves beliefs that has to do with a god but today you are seeing something different, that you may not necessarily have a belief in a god for you to be into religion.

LordReed:
Then very simply Atheism is not a religion.

just like that?

Final answer?

Maximus69:
I've told LordReed times without number that the only way to prove he has totally broken free from the shackles of religion is by ignoring everything having to do with religion, otherwise he is still under bondage of religion!

But my friend thought it's a means to silence him, so i continue disturbing him to see how truthful he is about his stand yet in everything he says it's obvious he is still under the influence of religion!

My father once took me to a gathering of politicians, AWO (Chief Obafemi Awolowo) was the celebrant. Both King Sunny Ade and Chief Commander Ebenezer Obey were the performing musicians that very day. To make himself more familiar to AWO KSA followed his friend Oluwole Awolowo (baba's son) to greet AWO, but to my shocking surprise AWO don't even know KSA! I asked my dad "Sunny Ade is popular, how come baba didn't know him?" My dad answered "AWO only knows the face of Politicians"

So this means the only thing that's of utmost importance to Awolowo is Politics, surely he will quickly recognize the face of any Politician of his time but KSA is of no importance to him, so he can't even recognize the most popular musician of his time!

Please if LordReed is always here on the religious section of Nairaland, reading, meditating and COMMENTING. How can he prove that he's not into RELIGION?

you made a valid observation.
LordReed and his likes will always come to religious section on Nairaland to defend their religion just like Christians and Muslims do come in to defend their religion.

Very interesting!

Bacteriologist:
So your dictionary that said atheism is a disbelief, now twisted it as a "doctrine" which also means belief. So atheism is a belief and disbelief at the same time?

it depend on what are your beliefs and disbeliefs.
You lack belief in the existence of a god that is a disbelief which translate to a belief that says a god do not exist.
At that point you have a belief, which says a god do not exist.
An according to that dictionary, Religion is an interest, a belief..

You can help yourself to process that from there

That's a very intelligent dictionary isn't it lol....

are there other alternative?

Smh at least you accept that there are TWO definitions of Atheism. Actually, there are many of them.

But it mainly boils down to two.

1. Weak Atheism
2. Strong Atheism


Weak atheism is not a knowledge claim. It is a "disbelief" claim. (Or more correctly a rejection of a belief claim)

Q: Do you believe in a god?
A: No I don't.

Simple.

1. Weak atheists don't necessarily "believe" there is no god. They are in a position where belief is not warranted. Mainly because theists do a ridiculous job of providing evidence for any of their gods. And also because it's illogical to disprove what has not been proven in the first place.


2. Strong Atheists: This one is what you have been trying to put all other atheists under because of your lovely dictionary. Lmao
Strong atheists are usually tagged explicit atheists mainly because they actively profess a belief that no gods exist. These ones would argue even with weak atheists that gods can be proven to not exist.



Sure. When speaking, I could say "Your god does not exist" what matters now is the CONFIDENCE level of that claim. Weak atheists have a lower confidence level when they assert that gods do not exist. They only disbelieve because there's no evidence from theists. They are also called Pragmatic atheists or Agnostic Atheists.

Strong atheists have a higher confidence level when they assert the same (they believe and can argue so). They're also called Explicit atheists or Gnostic Atheists.

So there I fixed it for you.

hmmm!
I didn't know this?
I thought all atheists must have arrived at some kinda advance knowledge to conclude there is no god?

I'm learning something new.

LordReed:
Then do you accept that everything is a religion including commenting on Nairaland?

No!
But if anyone picks so much interest in any religious issue or topic on Nairaland, watch it, that person is already into religion.

No you don't, equivocation is a terrible position to take because it used to avoid being pinned down on a point.

because you want to pin down an idea on a point so you shouldn't be objective?

Which is what you are attempting to do here. You desperately want to paint atheism as a religion so you can dismiss it as being equally bad as religion.

I don't think the consensus to see atheism as consisting of doctrine in an English dictionary was deliberate, ofcourse I couldn't possibly be the one who made the consensus or wrote that dictionary that you should say i want deliberately paint atheism, what's my own

Suppress religion? Nope, instead we'll show the bad ideas entrenched in religion so that people can see for themselves. There is no need to suppress religion, just shine the light of reality on it, just like Covid 19 is doing right now. Where are the miracle workers and the great prayer warriors or the prophets? Are they not all equally waiting like the rest of us unbelievers on the fruits of scientific inquiry to cure this disease? This is all that needs to happen.

If everything is religion then why is there a special category for religion? This equivocation continues to be unnecessary and needless. You don't go about calling everything a religion. This desperate attempt to just paint atheism as a religion is so transparently obvious. Even if we grant you that atheism is a religion then you also will have to concede everything of interest is religion leading to a nonsense position.

let's look at again :

an interest, a belief, or an activity that is very important to a person or group

This definition is quite specific, it does not apply to everything.
So everything can't possibly be religion.

LordReed:
It very well does exclude it. This meaning you have brought will only lead to the conclusion that anything of interest to a group of humans is religion which you very well know that that is not how we view things.

unfortunately, that is what it seems.
I mean, as much as other activities other than religion may be of interest to people, so is religion of interest to those who are into it

We don't call stamp collecting a religion, we don't call going to work a religion. There is a meaning to religion that everyone understands when you mention it, there is no need to begin to equivocate just to make a point.

you have to equivocate in order to avoid bias judgement.
Because if you are looking at it only from your own stand point of view especially when your view is science oriented or originated and is advanced, you may end up apply your idea about religion where it does not call for and find yourself trying to suppress religions you now consider primitive forms of religion like Christianity and Islam .

One thing i no for sure is, the human mind is very dynamic and full of imaginations and at the same time frigid and lacking imaginations at some point. So to be realistic, it is not possible that after interaction with the outer environment using the five senses that the mind will not evolve ideas, concepts and doctrines which is actually where conventional religion originated.

Scientific theories and laws are not excluded from the same process : the five senses are used for observation and whatever conclusion is arrived can be believed by the mind religiously thereby consistuting RELIGION.

Maximus69:
I've told them several times without number that RELIGION is not just about the belief in God alone but whatever you have absolute confidence in even without seeing it!

For instance a doctor will prescribe a medication and ask you to use it RELIGIOUSLY!

That means you should believe in such prescription even without seeing it working at the moment!

That's why the Bible defines Faith as the assured expectation of things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities though NOT seen! Hebrew 11:1

This definition is clear enough that anyone trusting in any arrangement and working diligently with such an arrangement before seeing the fulfilment is a RELIGIONIST!

So far you come on social media spending your time to type words meant to reach the heart of other humans like you, there is no doubt about that. You surely BELIEVE in what you're doing, which makes you RELIGIOUS!

obviously, just like every other religion they criticize, these guys are living in huge delusion too, they are not aware

Bacteriologist:
I think that you're dishonestly ignoring one definition because it does not suit your narrative.

no!
All definitions inclusive as they are applied to different situations yet one word ATHEISM.
I'm not here to cherry pick anything, ofcourse i have already agree that atheism is disbelief, no doubt.
But how about the second definition which says
the doctrine that there is no deity?
So long that definition is there in the dictionary you can't dispute that atheism also involves doctrine

@the bolded, Point to me where the dictionary said there are beliefs in atheism. If you cannot then you're dishonest.

check the meaning of the word DOCTRINE used in the definition of atheism you will see the word beliefs.
No doubt, there are beliefs and doctrines in atheism too.

In summary, no one living in this life that does not have beliefs or even personal philosophy. This has thrown your concept of atheism as lack of belief into a jeopardy