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davidinchrist:
A bit of confusion or a misunderstanding with the titles or descriptions we use.

The correctness of titles or terms are LESS important but one's FRUITS (proofs of being genuinely saved): are they Good or Bad.

Right, you're "Born again": what are your fruits?

Or

You're from a strong "Christian Home": excellent, BUT what are your fruits?

Matthew 7:16 KJV
Ye shall KNOW them by their FRUITS.

2Tim.2.19 - ... "The Lord KNOWS those who are His," and, "Let Everyone who NAMES the Name of Christ DEPART from iniquity."


May Jesus Bless You.

Amen!
you are on point!
whatever title we choose to call ourselves, it is the fruits we bear that matters

Kobojunkie:
OK?
But.... Nothing of what you have here connects to or explain what Jesus told Nicodemus in response to Nicodemus' own questions for Jesus Christ though.

How about this?

John 3:14 [And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

All you have to do is think :
You know Jesus was lifted up in the wilderness?
He was the kingdom of God that was preached by John the Baptist. By so doing, thousands of people followed him and Nicodemus saw that.
The disciples followed Jesus simply because they believed in him. If they had not believed they wouldn't have followed him.

And I'm telling you that Jesus wanted Nicodemus to follow him : that was the sign to show that he believed.

John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Do you know what it took for a person to abandon all he had acquired in life and give them to the poor and start following Christ? Matthew 19:21?
I took great determination .

Plus, you skipped over 2 verses there in your attempt to make this strange connection you are trying to make.

I know that the connection will be strange to you. It was strange to me too the day i discovered it. But it is very true irrespective of the fact that it is strange.
Now tell me, have you ever asked yourself why is there so much criticism of today pastors and the church today?
It is because the church has failed to tell it members the truth they should know from the bible

Please endeavour to revisit the question that Nicodemus asked Jesus, and the re-read your response to understand how Jesus would not even use what you have above as a reference for response.

when you read John 3 from where Nicodemus asked the question down to the end of the chapter, you will notice that Jesus was trying to establish one thing for Nicodemus to understand. And that one thing is TO BELIEVE IN HIM.
And I have told you that a person cannot follow Christ except he believes in him.
There were so many people who lived in Israel as at the time Jesus was on earth. Not all of them followed Christ because not all of them believed.
Even among the 5000 disciples who eat five loaves of bread and two fishes at the wilderness, who believed and followed Christ, many of them ran away when Jesus was about to be crucified.
These people that ran away were all the born again Jesus was talking about, yet they ended up missing out from the opportunity to be Christians in the book of act.
Act 1: 15 specifically recorded only 120 of them who became Christians, out over the over 5000 born again people.

So you see, born again is not part of Christianity.
Born again is described as people of the days of John the Baptist, not the era of Christianity.
Even John the Baptist believed too, but he was not privileged to see Christianity.
Judas iscariot was born again too, but he wasn't privileged.

Kobojunkie:
Nicodemus told Christ? What Jesus wanted from Nicodemus? Daniel? Not Seeing it from angle that it is a parable?
I suggest you read the encounter between Jesus Christ and Nicodemus again.

scriptures are all encompassingly related to one another. If you have read other scriptures of the gospel(matthew,mark,luke and John) certainly you see the correlation of what Jesus was trying to explain to Nicodemus. But if you are looking at the encounter of Jesus with Nicodemus in isolation, you will never get it.
No scripture should be read in isolation.

Matthew 4:20 And they straightway left their nets, and FOLLOWED HIM.(meaning: Jesus wanted these disciples to follow him)

Matthew 4:22 And they immediately left the ship and their father, and FOLLOWED HIM.

Matthew 4:25 And there FOLLOWED HIM great multitudes of people from Galilee, and from Decapolis, and from Jerusalem, and from Judaea, and from beyond Jordan.

THESE GREAT MULTITUDE ARE WHAT JESUS REFERRED TO AS THE WIND, THEY WERE THE BORN AGAIN IN SEARCH FOR GOD'S KINGDOM WHICH WAS REVEALED TO THEM AT THE CRUCIFIXION IN JERUSALEM.

And that was what Jesus Christ wanted Nicodemus to do.
TO FOLLOW HIM TO JERUSALEM. that is, to be born again.

Kobojunkie:
I don't belong to any sect and I was not raised in a Christian home. Neither am I one of you Churchians. Up until only a couple of years ago, I believed in nothing -- not even my own self. If I can come to know to serve the Almighty God outside of your pastors/preachers/pharisees/sadducees/con-men/wolves, then surely any one can.

I'm not interested in what pastors do. I'm here to prove that anyone can read his bible and understand it like he has understood any book he read before.

I think it is best to recall your earlier post at this point

Jesus never referred to His disciples as Born agains in John 3 vs 3. They were however "annointed" by Jesus Christ as in the tradition of the old covenant, so they were already picked for His Kingdom by His person. Unless you are suggesting here that Jesus lied to them when He promised them He was going to prepare a place for them in His kingdom?

OK, I'm listening to you

It is not a parable. It is Jesus explaining what it is like to have the Spirit of God living on the inside of you.

really?
It's not a parable
OK, tell me how the window blow where it listed relate with born again, I'm listening to you

When the Spirit of God is at the wheel(leading your life as one who is Born again), you do not have control over anything. Remember, in order to become a follower of Jesus Christ, You have to die to yourself(sede control of your life to Christ/ die to your ego). The Spirit of the Living God is not a puppet as some pretend him to be in Christianity and Churchianism today. He is God Himself and He, God,expects you to give Him your trust and obedience as He leads you along His path to fulling His plan in your life -- not our own plan as some pretend the walk is about.

He is your personal GPS system that shows (tells you) details of your start point, routes, time of travel, distance travelled, final destination etc...No. God does not guarantee you any of that; However, as long as you trust Him, His promise is that it will all turn out for your good.
It is difficult to do, yet doable!

OK, what you assume the wind to be is the spirit of God?

You funny o! Which spirit of God?

See, stop assuming!
Everything you need to understand is there in that scripture.

The wind blow were it listed is a parable you don't need Jesus to say it is a parable before knowing that it is one.

The wind signifies people (every wind have direction of movement)
Nicodemus saw these people(disciples referred to as born again) following Jesus, they came from a direction(perhaps Gallilee) and Nicodemus didn't know where they were coming from and where they were going to(they were going towards Jerusalem with Jesus where Jesus was to be crucified) Nicodemus didn't know that too.

(Remeber, according to Daniels prophecy Jesus was to complete a journey with his disciples from Gallilee to Jerusalem before he is crucified)

The question is : what did Jesus Christ wanted from Nicodemus?
Jesus was simply telling Nicodemus you must be born again : meaning, you must follow me as my disciple to Jerusalem if you must see the kingdom of God.

you are not seeing it from that angle that it is a parable because you didn't consider the story of what happened during Jesus life here on earth. If you do not have the story at the back of your mind there is no way you reading that scripture today will understand what Jesus meant by the wind blow where it listed to Nicodemus

Kobojunkie:
Jesus never told you He needed you to become relevant here on earth to the world, because what you do may have absolutely nothing to do with His plan for you.
Remember His disciples? They each had careers-- some were educated by the system of their time too. But when Jesus showed up, they all had to abandon their careers in choice to pursue instead the plan that God had for them. The same was the case with Paul, and many of those who were with Him.
Christ does not promise a doctor for example that He will be used as a doctor by God...

for saying that Jesus never told you to to be relevant on this earth shows you don't know why you were created in the first place.
Do you have anything you do at all that gives you income, what are your means of survival?
So, you want to tell me that you don't work for income at all?

on the contrary, what God wants is that each submit to His plan. Jesus said that anyone who does not die to self(give up his life/die to his career goals, ideas of self, etc. to follow Him) is not worthy of Him.

it seems you are finding hard to process what i have been saying.
I have been saying that submitting to this plan of God you mentioned here has nothing to do with your relevance here on this earth in terms contributing to the economy and become financially empowered, both are very important

Since it is possible to do so, then it is a choice. The Spirit of God does not imprison those who He breathes on.
Your list of benefits should align with what Christ Himself said is to be expected, and lived.

I don't need to align anything, you should have it at the back of your mind that what Christ himself said is not excluded from what I'm saying. So, if anyone chooses to loose his place in the kingdom that is his choice, that has nothing to do with him being relevant here on earth so long he is alive.

Kobojunkie:
You will have a choice -- there will be those who choose to loose their place in the Kingdom in the end.

that has nothing to do with them taking their education very seriously and becoming relevant here on this earth.
Whether they choose to loose their place in the kingdom, that is their own cup of tea

That is not the truth either.
I think you better get yourself caught up on what became of the disciples -- the very ones that walked with Jesus Christ Himself while He was here on earth. Most of them did not see to enjoy any of the so-called benefits you have listed above for those who are bound for the kingdom of God, at least not in the worldly terms you apply it.

so?
We should exclude ourselves from these benefits simply because the disciples did not enjoy them in their time?

Kobojunkie:
Being born into a Christian home also means higher chances of being indoctrinated in false religion masquerading as yet another brand of Christianity. Technically, children from such homes grow up corrupted by the same lies their parents before them dutifuly spat down their throats in the name of God. So, do not rejoice yet.

you were right saying being born in a Christian home also means a higher chance of being indoctrinated falsely but that is not peculiar to Christianity alone.
Also, referring other sects of Christianity who do not buy your jw ideas as false religion shows how desperate your jw group are, it doesn't tell good of you.

I think you are confused. Jesus said only those who are born again will enter into God's Kingdom. So, I don't know what bible you are reading there. You might want to go back and re-read John Chapter 3 to better understand what is actually written.

See above where Jesus explains what it means to be Born Again to Nicodemus. Those who are born again are also those who are like children, are righteous, and poor of spirit(Jesus also declared these things).

I'm confused to you, yet you are still saying the same thing i said. Tell me that the disciples of Jesus Christ as at the time Jesus was not yet crucified, were like children, are righteous and poor of the spirit?

7. Don’t be surprised that I told you, ‘You must be born again.’
8. The wind blows wherever it wants to. You hear it, but you don’t know where it is coming from or where it is going. It is the same with everyone who is born from the Spirit.”

if you truly understand what Jesus was trying to explain to Nicodemus what he meant by born again, can you please explain what you understand by this parable?
what does the wind signifies, and why is the wind blowing?
Relate it to what you think born again is and let's see how sensible your explanation will be

Do not twist the words of Christ any further than you already have.

i think you are finding it difficult to understand what Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus just accept that fact.

Yes

incogni2o:
Being a Christian mean one is Christlike

no!
Don't be confused by that faulty acertion, no one is like Christ and no one can be like Christ.
1 John 1:8 if we say we do not commit sin then we are lairs

which you can't attain without asking his spirit to come into your life.

the holy spirit is only there to bear us witness that we are sons of God, it is not there to make us live like Christ by automatic default, and you get that holy spirit the moment you believe.

Jesus spoke to Nichodamus ....You must be Born Again.
If you beleive in Jesus christ, you will be saved. Was Nichodamus a Christian?

no!
He wasn't a Christian at that point even if he had believed. He will only become a Christian after Jesus Christ is resurrected, but before then he is born again simply because he believed.

Righteousness89:
[i]Being born into a Christian home does not guarantee you Eternal Life. Just like being a Pastor child does not give you a ticket to Eternal Life.

why do you say so?

" For GOD so Loved the World that HE gave HIS only begotten son! That WHOSEVER Believes in HIM should not perish but have Eternal Life"

Heaven is a Personal Race.. it's not a community or Family Race.

the scripture you quoted did not indicate in anyway that heaven is a personal raise like the person will be in isolation running alone.
Yes, it is true that to accept Jesus or not is a personal decision. But that doesn't mean that the moment you have accepted him you are in isolation.
Christianity comprises a group of people who believed in Christ worldwide, every single one of them are saved based on their believe or faith.

Accepting JESUS CHRIST I.e being Born again

accepting Jesus Christ is not the same thing as being born again as it applies right now.
Yes, it is true that accepting Jesus Christ(being disciple of Jesus Christ) was the same thing as born again, that was before Jesus was crucified.

But the moment Jesus resurrected, even the disciples of John the Baptist were baptized Christians.

So, Christianity is open to anyone, so long you believe.

incogni2o:
What are you saying

I know a lot of people who weren't born into christian homes, they who were muslims and became born again.

point of correction : became Christians not born again.

They always seem to be better grounded in thier relationship with God than those born into christian homes.

true!
But not in all case

Being Born again refers to being spiritually reborn, not the physical birth my friend.

you didn't read your bible to draw this conclusion, just depending on what people are saying.
Go back to your bible again.
Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.
You know what that means?
It means except a man becomes Jesus disciple he cannot be part of what happened on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2:1-3 which was the beginning of Christianity on earth.

So, being born again was a state of discipleship where the disciples were never Christians, that was before the crucifixion of Christ.
It was very important that anyone who want to see the kingdom of God must go through that state first, that's why he said accept a man..

Have you ever wondered why many of us are Christians today believing in Christ? It is because we were privileged to born into Christian homes. Otherwise, we would have been Muslims or atheists or even African traditional idol worshippers etc and therefore we would have been tagged unbelievers.

But here is the thing, the very people Jesus referred to as born again in John 3:3 were never Christians, they were only disciples at that time.
Most of them were born of parents who practiced Judaism so they were never privileged to be called Christians.

Jesus Christ says, the least person in God's kingdom is greater than they.

So, incase you are still referring to yourself as born again, you are only belittling yourself

Amotolongbo:
what about his followers?

What will they possess?

poverty ofcourse

sexiestharam:
This question has left me wondering for months! No present day "Man of God" anywhere in the world saw the present pandemic coming this year. No single prophecy about it in their new year "predictions". All they care about now is their pockets so they propagate different conspiracy theories so their flocks would flood back to churches.
In the time of Elijah or even the Apostles, it was impossible that this would have happened without God showing it to them earlier.
Their lack of hearing from God about this virus gives room for concern.
Are they really men of God or god of men?

they are men of God who really don't know that in this new covenant, God don't want us to seek miracles and signs anymore. Rather, God want us to seek knowledge in science and educated enough to research and find vaccines for corona virus.
Also, the lockdown has proved that God isn't interested in church going, He want people to stay at home and worship him.

Righteousness89:
Replenishing the Earth does not grant one eternal life! Accepting JESUS CHRIST is what grants one eternal life. How will the people Hear except there be a preacher?

Accepting JESUS CHRIST IS Key! It is the Gateway to The Most Important which is Eternal Life. It is also the gateway to other things. And Even if the other things don't come, You are Guaranteed Eternal Life!

ok

Righteousness89:
They Both are important and vital.

that's very true

If we are to go for which is more Important! Spreading the Gospel of JESUS CHRIST Comes first!

why?

A Person who Replenishes the Earth and does not Accept JESUS CHRIST is Wnd in Hell!

true!

A Person who Accepts JESUS Christ and dies not Marry have Children Makes Heaven..

if a person accept Jesus Christ, does that benefit another person who is need of food to eat?
How?

A lot of people consider preaching the gospel as their greatest calling, but should that be the case?
Preaching the gospel involves any means of circulating the gospel of Christ such that, the whole world is becoming aware of Christ and more people are accepting him. This means may include verbal preaching in churches, mass media such as Television, Radio and life broadcast streaming of messages through the internet, sharing of hand bills, etc. The primary aim of preaching and circulating the gospel of Christ is to reconcile man to God, and to restore the eternal life that was once lost through the sin of Adam and Eve. 1 Corinthians 15:22.
But before the fall of Adam and Eve, God gave Adam a calling, a mandate which is :

Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, AND REPLENISH THE EARTH.. .

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO REPLENISH THE EARTH? In this context, the word replenish means to restore, repair or build what has been destroyed. It follows that, due to the fall of Adam and Even this world was heading for destruction. Matthew 13:28.
But Christ's resurrection restored back the life in man and hope of building this a world into a better place. 1 Corinthians 15:22.
Today by default, we all are directly or indirectly involved in the process of building this world into a better place as our first priority by way of engaging into various carriers and professions, THEREFORE REPLENISHING THIS EARTH IS YOUR GREATEST CALLING.

DOES WINNING SOULS ALSO INVOLVES REPLENISHING THE EARTH?
Well, some folks says winning souls for Christ also involves having people repent from their evil ways as repentance makes these people to stop committing sin thereby making this world a better place, and i agree with them to some extent. But I'm quick to point out to them that, if you repent of your evil ways that does not guarantee your salvation, therefore winning souls for Christ has nothing to do with repentance and replenishing this world into a better place which is our first priority.

Anyone irrespective of who you are, whether you believe in Christ or not,you can repent of your sin even without the gospel or without Christ. But your salvation will depend on whether you believe in Christ or not. John 14:16

When will the Nigerian government start sanctioning churches, mosques and shrines that passing wrong information?

Irresponsible government!

sighting:
I have been praying for a period of time now particularly in the midnight on some particular requests but I have not yet gotten answers and I think I'm getting wearied of kneeling down to pray again.I have confessed my sins I don't know what else to do.I need the hand of God i need him.will I ever get answers

it depend on what you are asking.
Hope you are not asking for castles in the air?
Because, praying effectively requires that one should be realistic in his request, not asking for mansions but meanwhile, he is not earning money.
And also, an effective prayer requires that the person should work for what he is requesting and not sleeping waiting for God to do miracle.

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Kobojunkie:
46 commands in one scripture? Sorry, CONTEXT matters! That is why you gain a lot more from reading to whole book. I mean I assume you have been a "Christian" for more than a minute now. If you had no idea what the commands were to this point, what do you think makes you even a "Christian"? Your claim that you are saved?

Here's what John the apostle said of those who do not even Obey Jesus' commandS.

ok, thank you.
I already know who you are

Kobojunkie:
Yes, the gospels of Christ

I say one scripture of the gospel.

Not according to me, according to Christ, the one who is His are those who OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS.

I am backing all this with Scripture... start by reading the book of Matthew, as you would any other book, paying close attending to the words and COMMANDS of Christ. You will find that He did not simply speak so you could have verses you can cut-and-paste on chat forums. No His words were details of the COVENANT (The blessings, curses, commandments -- the truth)which HE came to bring us

It's ok, thank you

Kobojunkie:
That is not why Jesus emphasized the keeping of his commandments. Jesus brought to man a new covenant and part of that covenant are about 46 commands that those who make the contract with Him are required to OBEY. Even if you are willing to die like the disciples and apostles of the first age did, you still need to OBEY those commandments for you to be a recipient of that covenant that Jesus represents.

The commandments of Christ are not simply the same thing as Love your neighbor as yourself! I suggest you go back to the gospels and read each book paying attention to the commandments of Christ. There are about 46 of them, and you best get to learning what they are and how you can begin to incorporate them into your so-called Christian life, if you really intend to partake of the covenant that is Jesus.

Be reminded that our righteousness(not just the righteousness of the ones we like to call sinners/unbelievers) is nothing but filthy rags as far as God is concerned. So be sure that without first becoming a follower of Christ, your show of love to anyone equates to the love shown by an atheist to their fellow man....:-/

Since this is about those who claim to be believers, there are those who are genuine and fake Christians.
1 John 2 vs 3-5 tells you that those who do not OBEY CHRIST's COMMANDS are liars(the fakes).

I have two questions to ask;
1. Is there any scripture that shows the 46 commands of Jesus? Mention atleast one of such scripture, I want to see the content of it.
2. To you, who is a Christian and how is Christian different from an unbeliever? (Back your answers with scriptures)

Kobojunkie:
Yes, believe in the one who He, God, hath sent, and that includes doing what He tells you to do. But Jesus told you what It would take for you to even become His follower. If you refuse to do what He, Jesus, tells you to do, does that then mean you have believed in the one that God sent?

The work of believing the one that God sent you involves you actually OBEYING THE COMMANDS of the one that God sent.
In the old testament, God called on his people to OBEY HIS COMMANDS, and we all know how that went. So in the NT, God sends Jesus Christ and asks you to believe on him. And then Jesus tells you that if you love Him, you will OBEY HIS COMMANDS.

Sure, who ever believes in HIM, and HIM being Jesus then tells you that if you love me, YOU WILL OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS. Isn't it amazing! And there are about 46 of those commandments for you to obey you know.

But back to the original question, Jesus never said that if you only believe in Him, you will be one of His. Confessing our sins to him is not even one of his commands, so why do we continue to do that which have no bearing to His truth?

actually, there are targets or aims to achieve in everything we do, that is life for you.
There is an ultimate aim for believing in Christ and that is eternal life. John 3:16
There is another aim or reasons why we should keep the commandments which is totally different from eternal life and that has nothing to do with eternal life, but rather, it guarantee success and a better and happy living on this earth. That's why Jesus Christ emphasized on keeping the commandments which is the same thing as love your neighbour as yourself. That certainly will never take anyone to eternal life when they die, but it only guarantee a better and happy life on this earth.

Even unbelievers who don't believe in Christ when they keep these commandments they will live happily, but that doesn't mean they are saved into eternal life when they die.

Having said that, there is nothing like a genuine or fake Christian. Infact, every Christians commit sin, but that doesn't mean they are sinners in the eyes of God.
But guess who is a sinner in the eyes of God?
That person who refuses to believe that Jesus is the Christ, no matter what good he does he is sinner until he believes.

desiredhome:
Yes .... Should we continue in sin that grace may abide...He says God forbids it....,

For whatsoever a man sows so shall he reap.....
It says we should continue in our good works so that our tommorow will be great
Grace does not erase the consequences of your wickedness/sin

exactly

desiredhome:
The Bible is clear on righteousness, when you live a Christian(righteous) life you are a light...

yes, that is true

No body is perfect as far as we are living but there is conscience in Everyman so that when you sin you will know
Today there are deliberate sin/wickedness in the name of grace......

you are perfectly right!
And those who deliberately sin or do wickedness in the name of Grace will also face the wrath of the law like anyone else, grace cannot save them.

Christthesaviour:
"Not every one that saith to me lord, lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven but they that doeth the will of my father." I KNOW U KNOW WHO SAID THAT.

the scripture was not directed to Christians, Infact, there is nothing like Christianity as at the time Jesus said this. There were people who called Jesus Lord, Lord and were his disciple, but they never ended up becoming Christians in the book of Act 2:1-4, because many of these disciples ran away the moment Jesus was about to be crucified.

desiredhome:
If you are a Christian you must be Christ-like else you are not a Christian
Mathew 5:16
In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven .

the scripture you quoted does not support what you are saying that it is a must or do you see that it is must there?

It says let your light so shine before men, it didn't put any condition that you must shine your light before men, otherwise there is no eternal life for you.

Saying it is must, you are making it conditional. The love of Christ is not conditional, he gave his gift of righteousness freely to as may that believes.

Kobojunkie:
But Jesus Christ never said all you have to do to simply believe for you to be his follower.

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye BELIEVE on him whom he hath sent.

So, the only work you will do for you to have eternal life is to believe, that's all.

John 3:16 ...whoever BELIEVES in him should not perish but have eternal life

He never even said you had to confess your sins... men came up with that one.

exactly!
But it is good to confess your sins to men as a sign of repentance, but that isn't a criteria to have eternal life, the only criteria is to believe.

Christthesaviour:
Happy sunday guys,you know,everything that has original also has a fake,so i'm creating this thread agains sunday.
who is a christian? a christian is one who is christlike in nature, one who identify himself with christ and have made christ lord over his life.
There are over 2.5 billion people who profess to be christians today.
but seriously out of this number some are only pretending to be a christians but they are not accepted by God.
Many nairalanders thinks going to church,paying tithes and bearing christian names qualifies you to be a christian,but no! it doesn't many nairalanders still post insultive comments,despise government,wished evil on mods who ban them,well if you are still living in sin great or little,you are not a christian.
if you want to be a christian you must ask for grace from God to be one.
Christians are:
Loving
Kind
gentle
humble
peaceful
generous
cheerful
and most of all holy.
if you don't posses all these,u are not christlike and certainly not a christian.

there is nothing like a genuine or fake Christian.
Anyone who believes in Christ is a Christian and anyone who doesn't believe is not a Christian.

There is nothing like christ-like or I'm like Christ, everyone commit sin whether you believe or not.

Eulalia:
Maybe you need to work on your complexes or better still, give your life to Christ so you can have rest of mind.

Shalom.

dont quote me again o, except you are ready to point out what i said that warranted you to say what you said at the screen shot below.

It seems some of you don't know how to address people politely.

Even if i said something wrong will you not draw my attention into it and say i have said something wrong?

Mdmelijah:
Yes, except he divorce her or dies

OK,
You are saying except the man divorce the woman the woman shouldn't divorce the man no matter what the man has done?

Eulalia:
Oh... But when you were wishing me that, you didn't realize it was a hateful thing. Now it redirected at you and you're spitting venom and condemnation. I know your type. You can never box me into a corner. Ok?
I still repeat, that which you wish me, will be your lot! Perceive it any way you want.

Good day!

you miss understood me!
I didn't wish you that you will marry a terrible born again person i don't know what you are thinking
I was telling you that there are terrible people out there who claimed to be born again perhaps you were doubting if there is anyone like that.

Don't allow this hatred for people you perceived not to be born again to consume you, be careful