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spartan117:
No doubt 1 cor 15 talks about being raised up and given a spiritual body, but it's out of context as far as this discussion is concerned. Don't you think?

Let me be more concise. Examine the following scripture:

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.


This scripture clearly states that that the living will be caught up in the clouds with Christ. ( not only the dead but the living as well ).

This scripture clearly speaks concerning the rapture. Am I wrong?

Psalms5522:
You are right. This kind of thing happens when you read the Bible through a lens of already formed opinion. The truth is that if I already have an opinion that killing other humans is very good and I read the Bible through that lens, am going to start seeing tons of scriptures that seems to support my wrong idea. Like someone told me long ago that people see and hear what they want see and hear not actually what they are seeing or hearing.
The only way one can understand the Bible is when you approach it with the attitude of a child. A child is always ready to learn new things, they don't have already established opinions so it becomes easy for them to learn. When Jesus was on earth he on two occasions helped his followers to understand the right attitude they should have towards learning God's Word. He said in Mark 10:15 that to enter enter the kingdom of God people have to accept it like the way children would (without preconceived opinions). Also on another occasion Jesus praised God for hiding the gems in the Bible from wise and intellectual ones and then exposing it to babes( Matt 11:15). This goes to show the attitude we should have when approaching a study of the Bible.

Another thing I have find helpful is, avoiding the urge to explain what the Bible is saying instead allow the Bible to explain itself. When reading don't take a verse and give it an interpretation instead allow the surrounding context to guide you. If the context is not clear check for other verses that throw light on the topic. The best foundation to build your study of the Bible is on the fact that the Bible never contradicts itself, so any seeming contradiction is the result of not having a proper understanding of maybe the context or something else.
Am a serious student of the Bible and the above points have been of help to me and still is.

Psalms5522:
That is why there is a need for one to ask questions and study the Bible to see if what was presented as Scriptural is really Scriptural. But you see a popular adage that says if you want to hid something from man put it in a book some times applies to us (me included) we don't read we don't meditate on what we read we just look for already made explanations.

spartan117:
Concerning rapture what's your understanding of this scripture?
1 Thessalonians 4:15
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Concerning the anti Christ this scripture seems to depict that the anti Christ is a spirit that gains expression through men. Don't you think?

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Maximus69:
To fully grasp the meaning of AntiChrist, you need to know

Who is Christ?
What was his mission?
Who are his followers?
How are they operating?

That's when you can easily recognize the AntiChrist!

Because the Bible is spiritual and you need God's holy spirit to perfectly grasp the Bible's message!

The AntiChrist began amongst the first century Christians, gradually Satan started sowing his own evil seeds amongst them {Matthew 13:24-30} but they can't progress amongst the first century Christians because the Apostles were still very much around! 1John 2:18-19
So they left the gathering of TRUE Christians to form alliance with the Roman authority so after Constantine has given them power, they turned against the rest of TRUE Christians who were trying to keep up with the teachings of Jesus' Apostles, the pressure was so intense that all those who knew the way Christianity was established were silenced. That was how the seeds of Satan formed a religion that bears the name of Jesus but with a totally contrary mission.

The name of the AntiChrist is Roman Catholic Church!

Everything that Jesus taught was turned away and replaced with Pagan Roman philosophies and festivities!

spartan117:
Is the rapture of the church,

the second coming of Christ

and the anti Christ scriptural?

malvisguy212:
so man made doctrine drove you to atheism?

Psalms5522:
I like that word "man made doctrines" this brings to my mind the last question in the article "are we missing the human factor?"

donnie:
Mtchew, for your mind you dey Alice in wonderland. Nor worry, e go soon clear you.

petra1:
The video below explains it all


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxWiGClaFh0

donnie:
Covid19 rehearsals carried out 6 weeks before outbreak.

Not all of us are fools.

https://www.nairaland.com/5782860/covid19-pandemic-rehearsals-carried-out#88249385

Bossontop:
Ouch!!!......

Timi141:
Leave them, they don't want to work. Since UK has denied their visa they've already set their sights on heaven.

nosiebaba:
they said this is no KIDDIES zone. Come and be going. Go and watch cartoon

Ideyontop:
Says you who is not really confused with plenty of facts you have provided? This is a no kiddies zone. We are analysing the issue based on available facts please.

Iceflox:
Op, you are equally saying your god do not exist since miracles do not exist anymore.

Shelumiel:
Joblessness

IamMichael:
You can't say that atheist's have been indoctrinated. Atheism simply means "non-belief in any form of god".
Remember that while some atheist's are people who quit their religious beliefs, some atheist's were born into being atheist's because their parents were non-religious adherents.

Johnchyz:
. WHERE TWO OR THREE ARE GATHERED. THANKFULLY, I KNOW MY BIBLE.

menzo4u:
According to Pastor Chris, "What killed people in Wuhan, China was not the virus, it was the 5G".

As at April 1, 2020, 5G has not yet been in full use in many countries. Less than 40 countries currently have 5G networks, but there are now confirmed coronavirus cases in 183 countries.

1. For example, Burkina Faso has 364 confirmed cases of Coronavirus with 18 deaths. 5G has not been tested in this country. If Pastor Chris' claims that people died in Wuhan because of 5G and not coronavirus. What killed the people in Burkina Faso where there is no presence of 5G?

2. Lesotho is another country which has tested the 5G, and also commenced the full commercial use of 5G. As at today, 7th of April, 2020. Lesotho has not recorded a single case of Coronavirus. Why is it that the 5G that killed people in China has refused to kill people in Lesotho despite its usage over there?

3. Thirdly Yemen is another country with no cases of Coronavirus or death relating to the virus. And 5G has been tested in Yemen. Why is 5G not killing them over there?

If the coronavirus symptoms were the result of 5G exposure, it means people are not supposed to recover until they are moved away from the area where there is 5G. How come people are recovering and they are still in the 5G area?
So many questions begging for answers

Vortex369 common sense is the only thing required. Leave grammar.

Vortex369:
You have no Authority, so do not say 'authoritatively'. 5G antennae are already on select towers at Lagos and Abuja. As a matter of fact, I am sensitive to radiation, so my home is literary a Faraday Cage.

You can not say he is saying gibberish when you are saying the same thing he is saying, except you accept that you are saying gibberish too. He is saying that where the signals are turned on in Wuhan, people die.

But to roll out massively, as millimeter wave, the propagating devices must be installed within meters of each other, so it is not going to just be telephone towers, but on electric poles, roofs of high rises, etc etc. So the fact that few antennae are on telephone towers does not mean the roll out is in place, no it is not. The system is still being tested.

On the Project COVID-19, it is not the virus that is killing people. The virus is a biochemical entropy outcome when the radiation on specific resonant frequency hits a carier cell with nanobots that was already chemtrailed via aerosol.

What I mean in essence, is that humanity had already been chemtrailed with nano-particles or powder. The nanobots are assembled in the body since they are sentient. Then 5G network on specific resonant frequencies activates an array of programs in the body when the system goes Live and those with low immunity have no defence mechanism against the radiation.

The virus is a cellular reaction. The Virus WAS not introduced into the body, but is an outcome of the radiation effect. Virus are cells reprogrammed to vibrate in anti-clockwise instead of the natural clockwise manner.

5G is good, I want it. But does not mean I am not reacting to it, but I protect myself and limit the exposure to it, cos the Time has come for us to let go of Religions and Geo-Politics and join the Galactic Federation of Beings and access their own internet, and we need 5G upwards to connect to interplanetary consciousness wifi.

I do not care what the masses are told about 5G. I know what it is and I know what it is designed for. You all can think it is just about internet speed. Internet speed is nothing compared to what this connectivity capacitance is designed for.

It is easy to call it 5G, but I call it the Beast System.

recklesslove:
https://www.facebook.com/1344920117/posts/10221786397672882/

donnie:
This man is obsessed with genetic science, vaccines and population control. He had "predicted" that sub-saharan Africa will be worse hit than China. They always target the Israelites.

It's called Problem- Reaction- Solution. They create the problem, the people react, they bring the solution. And the people will desperately take the solution which they wouldn't have if it weren't for the problem created. I have used technology well but I refuse to be fooled. Vaccines should never be by force. We bind any such wicked maneuvers in the mighty name of YISAYAH KONGO.

And for those of you trying to educate Pastor Chris on technology. I dey laugh, that man and his ministry are far more advanced technologically than you think. He should need the 5G more than you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Xj_tzXMwI