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The wife of the President, Aisha Muhammadu Buhari, has stirred reactions online over her statement asking Nigerians to choose between poverty and wealth in the Saturday’s presidential election.

DAILY POST reported that Aisha on Thursday asked Nigerians to “decide whether the poor should become poorer and the rich richer or a society where the gap begins to be reduced.”

The First Lady stated this on Thursday while presenting empowerment packs to 1,250 women and youths from the six area councils of the Federal Capital Territory in Abuja.

In a statement by her media adviser Adebisi, Olumide Ajayi, quoted Mrs. Buhari, as saying that “poverty is one of the indices that encourage people to embrace vices like terrorism, kidnapping, and begging.”

Aisha’s statement has since been met with criticisms and diverse reactions from Nigerians online.

While some Nigerians on social media identified Buhari, APC as ’Poverty’, others identified Atiku as ‘Wealth’

Here are some comments gathered by DAILY POST from Twitter:

@Olarounye “You are right Madam, I chose wealth, the kind poverty your husband brought upon us is so excruciating, Atiku is Wealth.”

@Chizybae “This woman already knew that buhari has led us to world poverty Capital, and comes to tell us to choose wealth or poverty, probably everyone wants wealth, thus indirectly telling Nigerians to vote Atiku and kick poverty Buhari out! She is a genius.”

@Ray_vicsson “What I love about Aisha Buhari is that she always talk in parables. She knows fully well that her husband Buhari represents the poverty she’s talking about. Nigerian people has been living in abject poverty since her husband took the mantle of leadership. So vote wisely.”

@ForaNewNigeria1 “This woman has given Nigerians enough clues. She has done her own campaigns and voting. We’ll have ourselves to blame if we don’t heed her warnings.The choice is yours to make.”

@Sundayodc2018 “If you know you know, Aisha has finally make it clear to Nigerians. Vote for Atiku.”

@Ezediniliu “We have made our choice, Atiku. We are tired of poverty, job losses, killings, etc.”

@Godsongoodnews1 “Something I love about this woman, she always comes up with truth .Nigerians know where they’re now and they know where they’re wish to be tomorrow. Say No to Buhari and his poverty APC, Vote Atiku for wealth.”

@EmanuelUchenna “I so much like this woman, I wish she is the one contesting for this election. Poverty is the next name of APC.”

@Bless_jerryp “Aisha always win my heart. You have proven once again that you are not made just for the “kitchen and the other room”

@Juliusdennis7 “Madam, I now know the difference between poverty and wealth.
Buhari is poverty and I reject it. Poverty must go.”

@mydins2014 “Buhari and Atiku, Poverty and wealth: Let those with wisdom understand Mama Aisha.”

@Idokojan “With this, first lady have just taken pity on hungry and impoverished Nigerians. And she has sincerely told us to go vote Atiku. I respect you ma! You have indirectly told us this long ago by being reluctant in campaigning for Buhari. We’ll surely vote Atiku ma.”

Google has revealled that two days to the election, one dollar has droped from 360 naira to 185 naira after 3 years of 360 naira to a dollar exchange rate.

APC used their 3 years reign to milk the economy in order to rig one saturday election

PapiFlin:
They're all dull...All these follow follow black atheists. ...The bible predicted the mark of the beast on the exact parts of the body the obamacare wanted.....But nooo!!The 'smart ones' will say they're all coincidences.

thats what ignorant christians will say,
The bible never predicted any such thing.

Infact, if you understand what mark of the beast meant in the bible, you will just be laughing at the ridiculous idea of microchips or sensors or the obamacare myrth

budaatum:
I disagree with your "atheist mind". Even Christians read their own holy book and disagree, how much less atheists.

not that they disagree.
They really dont understand some aspect of their holy book

The Christian just hasn't presented God in such a way that they may see. Perhaps they should try harder.

that is very true.

There are many texts, even much older than some parts of the Bible that predicted what is happening today. Try reading the works of Plato for starts. You'd think God wrote it himself.

interesting! How come predictions like that are never popular among philosophers of today?

O, not only "their own history", but the history of the universe as well. But, do not worry. We are here in the University of Nairaland preaching history to one another.

that is a great thing to do

budaatum:
This is one of those things that Christians do that I find comical, they bait atheists, and I wonder why. The atheist says they see no God or spirits but you want them to say the things they don't see and have no evidence for, exists. Why, pax? Can the blind witness to those who see? Besides, does anyone "see" beyond the physical?

if any christian want atheists see God by all means,even when they dont want to see any evidence of his existence, it is wrong for that christian to do that.

You missed out 'going to the Jesustician for Jesusglasses', which the atheist hasn't gone and got.

and that is the only place the evidence lies, where atheists hasn't gone and got.
Now, it will be ok for them to say they have not gone and they dont want to go, therefore they dont know what theists are talking about like the agnostics have done

Actually, many. Too many to list. The inability of the atheist to see God or spirits is confirm by what they have read and the fact that Christians take their blindness seriously thereby affirming what they can't see. Or would you rather they lie that God and spirits they haven't seen exists?

certainly not!
But they should remain neutral.

I tell you one truth, the human mind is convinced by what he has seen, hear and read.
If theists have read their holy book, it will only take atheists to equally read that same holy book for them to have a critical mind to dispute what theists have believed. Otherwise, its of no use countering them by the atheistic state of mind.

Atheist do not depend on instinct, paxonel You hear them yelling, "show me the evidence for your God!"

the evidence the op presented is that Jesus christ in the bible predicted that christianity was going to be the largest religion, that was approximately 2000 years ago.
We are in 2019 today, we can google it. Christianity is actually the religion with the largest adherents today.

The question is, are there anything like that in human history that someone will predict something, after 2000 years the whole world is seeing the evidence of truth in the prediction?
I am yet to see anything like that, if you have any, please let me know.

Atheists depend on evidence of their senses and will always present it when asked for it, I can vouch for that.

evidence from senses isn't enough.
Records and reality are more reliable.
When holy books from theists serves as record, and that record points to a reality such as someone predicting something in the holy book and that thing became reality after a long period,then i dont know how senses can explain that?

Who's record and for whom?

By the way everyone, something needs to be done about history not being taught in Nigerian schools!

I got tired of the rest!

i will see how far nigeria as a nation will go, when people who were supposed to grow up to become tommorrow leaders do not understand their history

Emmanystone:
Evaluate your state of mind.

Ignored henceforth.

evalute your state of mind.
I am very good at noting monikers, dont quote me again , i will simply ignore you

frank317:
Sorry, maybe I missed it, I have read ur op over and over again and I see no single evidence u presented.

so what do you want?

I should go all over again

JujuSugar:
http://time.com/44631/noah-christians-flood-aronofsky/

this article was written by one Ishaan Thadoor, that is his opinion?
You are buying peoples opinion without requesting for evidences?
What happened to the wikipadia you posted before if not for your desire to make references to errors?

There are other sub links in the post too. Look those up if you're interested......
If you need any more links of the Gilgamesh myth or other myths older than Noah's ark, let me know......

let me ask you, do any of these articles present live evidences like what the op of this thread presented?
You are yet to go back to the evidence or prove of God existence presented by the op to see whether there are any element of truth or lies in it.

You said and I quote:
"Atheists, what are your proves or evidence that a spirit God do not exist?"
Stop shooting yourself in the foot. Are you still denying this?....

So,how does this question by the op makes the op seem to think that(i quote you) evidence is required not to believe in something" according to you ??

Where is the correlation between what you seemingly think the op said with this question the op asked atheists "what are your proves that God do not exist??"[/quote]Unlike you sir, i'm not confused ....[/quote]yes, you are extremely confused by the op's consistency

I just want to make sure that YOU know what your statement implies......

may be you should be sincere enough to seek clarification first, before you start thinking or presume

I was expecting this reply
You mean you just happen to somehow know without evidence that the religion you follow just happens to be the only one in the entire history of the world that is

you are yet to point out where the op said his religion christianity is the only religion in history or disprove the existence of other deities. absolutely correct? .......

You don’t seem to feel the need for evidence to support not believing in 99% of religions. We both agree on that.

i did not agree with you on that.
The op presented evidence or prove of God existence, you did not comment on the proves pretending as if you did not see it. Rather, you were saying many other things which did not relate to the prove in a bid to beg the simple question the op asked atheists " what are your proves that God do not exist? '

If any atheist has presented any prof to support their belief that God do not exist, the op will look at it.

The op has presented it own, but no atheist has commented anything on it, rather they are diverting

Why do you think I suddenly need evidence to go just 1% further, namely the 1% that just happens to include only your own religion?

the only evidence of whether God exist or not comes from my religion and the op has revealed the evidence.

If you were not interested to see it, then you should not comment in the first place.
It was meant for atheists who were interested to read it.

Why does your religion require a different standard of epistemology to all the other religions you reject without a second thought, or even a first one?

do the other standards of epistemology have live evidence?

Let them say it, i want to see it.

The op gave an undisputable live evidence, that christ predicted that christianity was going to be the largest religion even before the christianity was created. And when we googled it live today, we saw that it was exactly what he said, and you people cannot díspute it
That is a resounding evidence.
Let other standard of epistemology bring their own evidence lets see how live it is
Dont post article,
Bring out a fact from the article to show that something happen and relate it to present day reality, that should be your prof

UyiIredia:
Dafuq?! What kind silly reasoning is this?

monkey, comment on the reasoning if you can or get out.

Insulting people will not help you.
Rubbish!!

frank317:
Good for them? Shouldn't u be repenting for being in the wrong religion?
Well, good for u too for being a Christian, which I think is wrong a deceitful.
I have seen good and bad fruits in a religion and even in non religious people. How u claim monopoly of good deed is surprising. Ur God drowned people... What's good about that?


Christianity has its rituals too... Fast, vigil, anointing oil, repeat prayer over and over again. Not a Muslims believe in killing or anyone, they will tell u its a misunderstanding of their holy book

if you are truly serious with all these your claims about christianity, you would have disproved the evidence presented by the op on this thread.

Since you didnt mention anything about the evidence presented by the op, go and rest till you made up your mind to do so

Emmanystone:
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Oh my God this guy. Do you need take some meds? Why do you sound like this?

I give up.

truth is bitter abi?

Go and read this scripture again

John 10:6 This parable spake Jesus unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto them
10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbersall the prophets including abraham, elijah, isaiah, jonah, etc) but the sheep did not hear them.

So abraham is a thief, even with that the jews did not obey abraham.

When jesus was saying abraham is a thief, it does not mean abraham stole or abraham was bad. He meant, abraham is not the owner of this world. That he owns this world. John 1:1
(You might be thinking, what does this world has to do with Gods kingdom?)

Infact, there was a statement he says before abraham, he(christ) existed .

So, understand what i am driving at.

But we dont get salvation through abraham, we got it through christ. So anyone going to God through abraham(people practicing judaism) are intruders

Emmanystone:
Who are the intruders?

unbelievers, like pharisees of those days which were elders in judaism.
Also muslims, hinduists, atheists etc
In general, everyone practicing religions other than christianity.

Jesus says i am the way, that means abraham is not the way,
Muhammed is not the way.
Abraham founded judaism, muhammed founded islam. They are all intruders

Jesus described abraham as thief.
Thieves are truly intruders

JujuSugar:
Its a simple question. Answer yes or no.

ok, i didnt noticed you were asking the question

c/ Have you read your bible from cover from cover?

ofcourse yes, a lot of christians have done that too

Ever heard of the Epic of Gilgamesh? Let's begin with that

so how does this predate bible?

You cant imagine how much this post made me laugh kikikiki......
Below is an excerpt from your OP.....

Can you see how you christians dribble yourselves thinking you're making an argument? .........
I've now returned you the favor by asking you to disprove the FSM and here you are soaking yourself in the storm you started by yourself .....

what if after laughing and saying all these you do not come out with something reasonable?

By your original post, you seem to think evidence is required not to believe in something,.....

oga the op did not say that, okpe!!!

so presumably you have taken the time to eliminate all the other gods that humankind has worshipped fervently over the millennia .......

first, you said the op seem to think (that means you are not sure
Now, you are saying presumably
My guy, you have to be sure of what you saw in the op

What is your evidence that they don’t exist (not to mention the evidence that your particular deity-of-choice actually does exist)?.......
Meanwhile, let me give you another assignment....

forget the assignment,
The op never disputed the existence of other deities

Now that you did not come out with something reasonable can you take back all that laugh you posted previously?
No you cannot.

Thats why it good to present your argument deductively rather than inductively especially when you are not sure where to arive

JujuSugar:
My point is your arguments are poor and i'm here to show you why.......

ok, go ahead

*Whistle!!!*
Offside! Leave that ball and come back into the discussion, sir!.....

you brought the ball, its my turn to play and you are blowing whistle, what kinda ref are you?

Everyone is free to believe what he believes. You are answering another question....
So let me rephrase it for you: Where is your objective, dependable evidence which can be accepted worldwide, that your christian god exists?

did you even care to read the op at all?

You have presented no reasonable evidence. Hence this reversal of my initial question fails horribly.....

you did not read the op, how will you see the evidence?

You did not read the op, all of a sudden my argument is poor

Golden6:
Lol..

They cause 400,000 deaths anually. Surely there should had been a less violent way to remind us to keep a good hygiene

JujuSugar:
Fair enough, I will confess i was quick to comment and did not notice that your post was a reply to another moniker......
However, I've skimmed through this thread with utmost disgust at the poor quality of arguments you've employed.....
Hence my quick quoting of your moniker......
I have neither the time nor hopelessness to engage in e-fights at this hour, so i'll let your insulting remarks slide...for now.....
I assume you're looking to have a reasonable debate, unless maybe I'm wrong and you're the type who just wants to hear himself talk....

everyone are talking. Talk is meant for eveyone, you are talking i am talking so whats your point ??

So I'm going to ask these questions, then tomorrow (or anytime) if you want to have an argument, we'll move on from here......
a/ Have you any evidence that would be acceptable in a court of law or in a science classroom in any secular university that the god of the Christians actually exists?

no court has ever barred a christian in a secular world from going to church simply because he believes that God exist.

b/ Since I consider evidence is required before evaluating claims, why should I believe your claim to be a Christian?

put it this way, since you have refused to see the evidence i presented on this thread, why should you believe my claim?

c/ Have you read your bible from cover from cover?[/b]lie, you did not.
[quote]d/ [b] In conjuction with the previous question, what stories in the bible are almost identical to stories that predate the bible?

i have never seen any one story that predate bible, or do you have any?
I am eagar to learn

e/ I believe in the Flying Spaghetti monster. Now prove he doesn't exist
I'm a girl by the way

it doesnt matter!
It is your willingness to know new things that matter.

But if you are not willing to know there is absolutely nothing i can do.

I mean, whether you are christian or not it doesn't change anything. You are perculiar and good the way you are, and me that believes i am perculiar and good as well.

But one truth that will prevail, before you can convince a christian that there is no God you will first have to understand what the christian has understood that makes him believe that God exist for you to counter him and convince him properly. Otherwise, you are chasing a wild goose

Emmanystone:
You care to tell me why there are gates in Heaven? Or you haven't heard that there are huge and tall gates in Heaven?

ofcourse yes, there are gates in heaven. Gates were meant to restrict intruders access to heaven

JujuSugar:
Argumentum Ad Populum.....
Educate yourself.........

bush man!
This is not how ad populum is applied.

Google it incase you have missed your general studies

ad populum simply means appeal to the populace,

What i posted is a data extracted from wikipaedia,
Do you even know what wikipaedia is?

Do you think wikipaedia will just appeal to the populace?
What populace?
The christian population?

You must be an illiterate big joke, go and sleep jo

Emmanystone:
I was hoping you'd say who The Lord meant by 'The Violent' in that verse.

the violent he was referring to, were his followers at that time before he was crucified(his disciples). Not those who want to take down the pillars of the church as you presumed.

Whoever want to take down the pillars of the church is not fit for the kingdom of God, talkess of taking the kingdom of God by force.

To take the kingdom by force implies to enter the kingdom of God by all means .

And those who think the scripture refers to christians praying fire prayer to fight and kill their enemies they are all confused as you rightly noticed, please dont follow them

For you to understand that scripture, before Jesus was crucified he had even more than 5000 disciples or followers who violently followed him and ate five loaves of bread and two fishes at a time in the wilderness, these disciples or followers of christ did this in a bid to enter the kingdom of God at jerusalem.(they thought that the kingdom of God will come down physically at jerusalem were jesus was to be crucified. Luke19-11)

This happened in the days of John the baptist before and after john the baptist was killed(before christ was crucified) according to that matthew 11:12 you quoted.

Emmanystone:
That, they can't manage.

exactly

Emmanystone:
This will be the last i will respond to this, so whatever you believe is right, do. When you stand before your God this scripture shall come alive.
1 Corinthians 3:13-15
And the quality of each person's work will be seen when the Day of Christ exposes it.

For on that Day fire will reveal everyone's work; the fire will test it and show its real quality. If what was built on the foundation survives the fire, the builder will receive a reward.

But if your work is burnt up, then you will lose it; but you yourself will be saved, as if you had escaped through the fire.

That said. Fornication and adultery are sexual immortalities committed by different categories of people. One inside marriage, one outside. But since you believe you can have sex with a woman you are not married to and it's not fornication, then, by all means enjoy.


Believe it or not. If you are not married and you have sex, you have committed fornication. If you are married and have sex with someone outside of your marriage, you've committed adultery, no more, no less.

No, you are the one who doesn't know, because you don't even accept the sin of fornication as sin.

Fornication or adultery is seen by the Lord as a terrible sin becos you sin double sins when you commit them. You sin against yourself and against God. Do you even understand what that means? Do you know what the DIVINE DESIGN is? And do you know how you violate it?


Yes, some of the translations are confused becos you are right. Hahahahahahahaha. LWkm.


My dear, i am an evangelical, that means, i read KJV almost only. But recently, i discovered that if i read King James alone, i will not get a deeper understand of what the Holy Spirit is saying to me, so began checking other translations to see how the interprete a verse, and i saw that i misunderstood certain verses in King James. It was there all along, but, i saw it differently.

Let's take this commonly quoted verse for example.

And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Matthew:11:12

What does this verse seems to be saying? Who are the violent meant here?

Can Jesus teach us to turn the other cheek, yet tell us to take things violently by force?

Are we misunderstanding that scripture?

Now, lets look at other translations maybe we can see.

Good News Translation Matthew 11:12 From the time John preached his message until this very day the Kingdom of heaven has suffered violent attacks, and violent men try to seize it.

Matthew 11:12 Amplified Bible (AMP)

12 From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violent assault, and violent men seize it by force [as a precious prize


The readeres of King Janes alone have totally misunderstood this scripture and has taught error. Christians have believed that they are the violent in that scripture and instead of leaving vengeance to the Lord as He said, has taken to fight one anothere instead of loving each other.

Bros, until i read another version, i prayed violent prayers, i believed i was right because the Bible said so, but, the violent in that scripture refers to those who want to take down the pillars of the Church. They are the ones Jesus said, will not prevail against the Church.


The uninformed so-called deliverance ministers have used this scripture wrongly and turned peaceful Christians to hateful, bitter vengeful murderers in their intentions, as opposed to what Jesus taught, all becos a scripture was misunderstood.

READ OTHER TRANSLATIONS TOO.

inspite your various translations, you still do not understand who Jesus meant by the violent in his statement the violent taketh it by force, you are far away and totally lost.
But me that studied the king james properly, i have a clear understanding of what that thing is.

You will agree with me that English changes with time.
The English that was used in the time of king james are not the same english we use today.

King james translated scriptures to the english of his time directly from the hebrew scripts, you cant compare that to what comtemporary english translators did, infact some of them did their translations directly from king james, but they uttered a lot of things because they could not understand the old english usage.

frank317:
Actually, these other people think their God is the living creator and not urs... As far as they are concerned ur God (Christian God) fake.

What if they are right and u are wrong?

good for them

But we all know what is good by their fruits and positive contribution to humanity.

To be a christian is as simple as just believing in christ in your heart thats all.
But there are series of complications and rituals you must perform to show that you are truly adherents of the other religions, some of which may involve killing and pesecution of what they call infidels.
Trust me, only fake gods commands people to be ritualistic this modern day

Christ didnt say you should go to church.

He says believe in me and be saved, thats all.

But staunted churchgoers believes that apart from believing, they must do something extra.

Now,see what they are going through in the hands of men called men of God.

helinues:
And the Muslim God, Budhist God created what?

i dont jump into other faith i know little about.

If all these faith you mentioned recognizes the living creator then they are equally good

festwiz:
You combined Catholicism and other Protestant faiths as Christianity. Hmm. Okay

before nko,
Do you think Christ is interested in catholicism or protestant or whatever?

He says whosoever believes in him shall be saved

tobechi74:
Muslim is biggest religion

clap for yourself

Emmanystone:
You know what? Let's do this, lets see what other translation says about that verse maybe you'll be cleared.

New International Version
But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

so what is the difference between sexual immorality used in this version with fornication used in king james?

But I say that a man who divorces his wife, unless she has been unfaithful, causes her to commit adultery. And anyone who marries a divorced woman also commits adultery.

unfaithful?
Contemporary English

Ok, check 1 corithnians 5:1,is the word unfaithful used in place of fornication in this version?

Contemporary English Version
But I tell you not to divorce your wife unless she has committed some terrible sexual sin. If you divorce her, you will cause her to be unfaithful, just as any man who marries her is guilty of taking another man's wife.

this version is saying terrible sexual sin.

What is the terrible sexual sin?
The translator didnt know.

Yet when you quote 1 corithians 5:1 of that CEV, terrible sexual sin was not used in place of fornication seen in king james version

1corithian 5:1(CEV)have heard terrible things about some of you. In fact, you are behaving worse than the Gentiles. A man is even sleeping with his own stepmother.

I think some of these translators are confused .

They have done good job by translating the old english order of king james to what modern day people can understand, at the same time they have uttered the intended picture and understanding of original writters such as king james.

Dont depend on their translations totally, that is all i will say

Emmanystone:
Atheists don't believe in the spiritual.

then they should say nothing categorically about the spiritual

Emmanystone:
You well?

my friend stop commiting fallacies here, focus on the issue first

So if she sleep with another man who is not related to her or her husband she hasn't committed adultery?

is this how to explain a simple scripture? What is fornication(not adultery) doing in that scripture involving married people, Explain ?

frank317:
Why do u guys still argue when u already know that God probably does not exist?

did you say probably?
I am 100% sure because i read it, and i googled it and google confirmed it.

But you are saying probably because your position is not 100% sure.
Why?
Because you did not read.

Since you did not read and know what i know, why not say i dont know that God exist like the agnostics?

You people are not sincere

Look at ur nonsensical response to his post.

that the guy commented even when he has not read bible to know what i know?

The best you can do is to attack by saying nonsensical.
It is a sign of ignorance

Oga, stop forcing urself to believe what u know is not real.

since you dont have proves, oya come force me not to believe now.

Emmanystone:
What are you saying?

Lolzzzzzzzz. Poor you.


I can understand that you need to hide your ignorance. Not everyone shd be a teacher of the Word.

Stop it.


So, a woman sleeping with her HUSBAND'S close relations is fornication not adultery?
What breed of Christian are you?


Again, what breed of Christian are you?

Is it so difficult for you to understand that the man mentioned by Paul in 1Cor 5;1 is single? His stepmom commits adultery, while he commits fornication.

I'm not doing this for you, for your brain is backwards. Let others be corrected.

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in that case, you have just committed great sin against the holy spirit for not doing your personal research before quoting me
Isn't it obvious that you shd be one here needing research before talking abt stuff you have no clue about? You can't even say what fornication is. Falsifier of the gospel.


Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. can a single woman be put away by a husband?
I want straight answer yes or no

Do you see how foolish you people are?

What has this got to do with Pre-marital Sex of the Op?

Adultery can only be comitted by two married couples. If the married does it with a single, the married commits adultery, while the single commits formication.

STOP TALKING ABT THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW.

ok,
Read what Jesus christ himself says

Matthew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication (except it be for her sleeping with her husbands son as described in 1cor5:1), and shall marry another, committeth adultery:

Now, take note of the embolded.
A married woman commit fornication.

Explain that

johnydon22:
You don't need to see anything to disbelieve and unproven idea.

very true

I bet

this means you are not even sure of what you have been saying

it also predicted that human population would increase.

what do you mean by the emboldened IT?
Bible?
That bible also predict human population increase?
You are a big joke
You are begging the question by jumping into what the op did not ask, population increase

Yes.

give one person in human history who has predicted a thing from what has not existed and it came to pass

Therefore, your conclusion is idiotic

you see, i have choosed to cut out a lot of your emotional(non intelligent) fallacious ad baculum such as the emboldened. If you try that again i will simply ignore you

Go and learn how to make constructive argument i thought atheists were suppose to be intelligent people?

2. Absense of evidence

i just posted evidence quoting matthew 13:31-32 you didnt analyse that, rather you brought population increase which didnt follow

3. Inconsistency of belief

ok, among christians?
Its common among atheists too

4. Inconsistencies of source material
5. Ambiguities of intended evidence

these are irregularities among theists, i agree with you

6. Illogicality of arguments such as yours

that is making to become so emotional rather than using your brain

7. Dependency of belief on lies or exaggerations.

you are right here.

These are characteristics of some christians which may not truly point out the true nature of the bible.
That notwitstanding, if you shying away from reading the bible yourself i dont think you are qualified to comment in the first place.

This is why i love the agnostic position.
They dont care about bible therefore they agree that they dont know whether God exist or not.

But you atheists are not sincere, you will argue as if you know, yet you dont read