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alBHAGDADI:
Daddy Freeze understands the Bible?

Are you trying to make me laugh?

Read how I exposed the falsehood of his so-called Biblical knowledge in the thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/4276744/4-antichrist-statements-made-daddy

i didnt say he has absolute understanding but he inspite all that, he still understand scriptures than your pastors . In all the points you mentioned in the thread no doubt, he was wrong. But he still has upper arguments when it comes to tithing, first fruit and the nature of the christian religion as it was practiced in bible days

alBHAGDADI:
The problem with you and your kind is that you have painted all churches with the same brush. To you, they are all corrupt, whereas you don't know that you are glorifying Satan as victorious over the church for there not to be a single pure one.

You think you can run the Christian race all alone without the help of the church? Paul that said we should not forsake the gathering of the brethren, are you saying he was dumb when he made the statement? Yeah, I understand that many false churches have sprang up and Pentecostal churches constitute the majority, but that doesn't mean there aren't Godly churches who have kept the practice as of old alive. Look for them and you will find them. Go to a King James Version only Baptist Church and you will get fed the word of God.

The moment you stay away from a true church, you immediately become starved of the word of God. You become led astray by doctrines of demons as preached by Daddy Freeze. Why? Because you lack the solid foundation to withstand their lies, which you would have gotten from attending a true church.

At this point, you might want to think you can read the Bible on your own and understand it. This is totally wrong. You can only be able to read and understand the Bible if you have the Holy Spirit in you. Without the Spirit of God, the Bible won't make sense to you because you are not born again and are still a natural fleshy man.

1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Look at all those who were not born again in the Bible. They couldn't understand the word of God when they read it on their own. It was until a spirit-filled man of God explained it them that they understood it and accepted Jesus. Example is the Ethiopian Eunuch who read the old testament but couldn't understand it because he lacked the spirit of God. But when Philip explained it to him, he understood and accepted Jesus thereby receiving the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:14 (KJV)
How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?

Rethink your ways and stop following Daddy Freeze who is an occult. Only the blind can't see this.

are you saying that there is any pastor among the nigerian churches that understand the bible than daddy freeze ?

I understand that everyone of us are still trying to understand the bible including daddy freeze, but it has been proven all these recent times by daddy freeze that all this while, these pastors are really lagging behind in terms of understanding scripture and were leading most nigerians astray

zeezco11:
It is written in some versions of Gospel that Jesus was never crucified.

no!
It is written in all versions that some people thought that Jesus was not crucified, not some versions and not the gospel saying it say you are putting it here.

Also, you did not mention where in was written that Jesus forseen that christianity was going to be the largest religion today.

How will you possibly bring that one out?

zeezco11:
You agree?

no,

Very incorrect

ysyowel:
is because our God is alive

very true, nothing else.

If athiests thinks God do not exist let athiesm have the largest number of adherents lets see, its as simple as that

It is a well known fact that belonging to a religion and being religious are two different things.
Belonging to a religion is when the individual believes in the said religion by faith. For instance, i paxonel believes in christ but i do not go to church, therefore i belong to christianity. but being religious goes beyond that. It requires the individual to practice the works of regular meeting attendance like going to church every sunday,perform rituals like fasting, attending holy communion,pray often, read the bible and be loyal to the man of God.
Christians like us who are not religious, we are often described as lukewarm and seen as inferior to christians who are keeping the fire burning, therefore they are worried that we are not pleasing God.

For instance, Falz, a popular nigerian rapper recently gave reasons why he doesnt go to church as a christian as his mum was getting worried about him. Here is how Daddy freeze rightly reacted to the situation.

- Earlier on, mother of Nigerian singer Falz, expressed her concern about the fact her son doesn’t go to church

- Reacting to the news, Daddy Freeze stated that even though she has every right to be worried, most Nigerian churches misrepresent the true nature of Christianity

- He went on to advice the singer to study the scripture as that is the only way to become a true christian

At the recent launch of singer Falz's new album, Moral Instruction, his mother Funmi Falana, revealed that the singer no longer goes to church, expressing her concern over the issue as she urged him to start attending.

As expected, controversial Nigerian OAP and leader of the #FreeTheSheeple movement, Daddy Freeze weighed in on the matter. According to Freeze who is an avid critic of Nigerian churches and her leaders, he stated that the singer isn't missing much as most Nigerian churches misinterpret the true meaning of the religion.

In his words: "Although, like the good mother she is, she has every right to be bothered about her child’s spiritual life and growth, I’m not sure he misses much by not attending church, as most churches in Nigeria got Christianity up to 99% wrong. Mummy, I can tell you this as a biblical scholar and teacher of the scriptures. What many people practice in Nigeria as Christianity today, is anything ranging from mild syncretism to downright satanism.

Now, weighing this, have you ever felt guilt or not pleasing God for not being a regular church goer as a christian?

You can share your thought or experience here, it will be highly appreciated.

LuciferVirgin:
Do people also die when a Christian masturbates?

i dont know if people die when athiests masturbate,now you tell me whether they do?

Lamb101:
op are you an attention seeker or psycho?

If you want to do this next time don't use the Holy Bible.

Rubbish

the op does not need your foolish attention, if you have better things to say come out constructively or get out

This is the concept of eternal life and the essence of christianity. To bring eternal life on this earth to as many who believed in christ.

First of all, Adam and Eve sinned and there was death. So has christ resurrected and restored life on this earth.

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing ,if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

So, childbearing is a way of reincarnation of every christian that has died.

This is good news because we always have the second chance to come back to life again after we have gone. But this time, we will be free from the sins we commited in our previous lives as new born babies to start afresh again.

Romans 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.

Romans 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:

Now, the question is, how long are we going to stay dead before our souls will be transfered to live again in the womb of another woman?

The time frame will just be a twinkle of the eye (less than micro-seconds).

1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

This is not rapture,
This is reality, it is hapening all the time, it happens anytime a christian dies.

Another question : where is the place of judgement here? (As described in revelation 20:12)

Judgement will happen within the twinkling of the eye(less than micro-seconds) after which, those who are in christ will be reincarnated, and those who are not will be cast into the lake of fire (which is the second and final death without reincarnation).

It is apointed ones for men to die, after that judgement.

Now that we know this is happening, we are expected to live the normal life like anyone else.
Set your goals, achieve them and be sure that you dont have any fear of death.

Ofcourse there is life after death, but it is only for christians

Nnnnon sense athiests who didnt see anything wrong with the op,but feels he must comment

Ok,he is terrorising pastors and their fake tithing, thats good

Martinez19:
Lol. Christianity romancer.

and i am so enjoying it, and you are missing out

5thElement:
How about that passage where Jesus said he was going to prepare a place for his followers and in his father's house there are many mansions there?

dont get it wrong it was a parable. Most statements Jesus made about God's kingdom before he was crucified had other meaning which the interpretations were never given, but when you read these kind of statements it is expected you find what they mean by following one of the fomatt Jesus used to interprete his parables.

When Jesus said he was going to prepare a place he meant he was going to die and resurrect.

His fathers house with many mansions refers to the era after his resurrection when there will be Gods kingdom on this earth where there will be no death.

So, he has already prepared the place, and that place is your heart. If you are looking for mansion go and work for your money and build one, stop putting your hope where there is no hope

So all those who die are in hell.

the op said not all.
Only christians are saved from hell.

Well, you too will be there when you die unless you don't think you can or will die.

it doesnt happen by talking

From scripture stand point of view they are real.
In reality they are real than anything else.

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Of such is...

This by extention means believers are the heaven.

Therefore heaven is not a place, heaven is people, real people.

And these people lives here on earth as the heaven.
These people are nobody else but all christians where ever they find themselves.

There is nothing like heaven in the mysteries or any spiritual rhelm beyond this earth.

Christ lives here, right now with us.
God is here.

What is hell or hell fire
Hell or hell fire is simply grave (home for the dead).

It is not fire burning people.

We all see graves in cemeteries, therefore grave is real,
Hell is real.

What does this tells us?
It tells us that death is real.

Is this death of christians?

No, they are not for christians. They are for non christians (muslims, athiests, traditional idolatorers, judaismist, budhists, etc).

John 3:16 whosevers believes in him should not die but have everlasting life.

Since these group of people mentioned above have refused to believe in christ they will die, infact they must die

But you christians, you have been living on this earth since, and you will live forever (i know this is confusing, but it true whether you know about it or not).

In summary, heaven is real, we are the heaven, we are real people living.
And hell is real, if you doubt it go to cementeries graves are there

From scripture stand point of view they are real.
In reality they are real than anything else.

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Of such is...

This by extention means believers are the heaven.

Therefore heaven is not a place, heaven is people, real people.

And these people lives here on earth as the heaven.
These people are nobody else but all christians where ever they find themselves.

There is nothing like heaven in the mysteries or any spiritual rhelm beyond this earth.

Christ lives here, right now with us.
God is here.

What is hell or hell fire
Hell or hell fire is simply grave (home for the dead).

It is not fire burning people.

We all see graves in cemetaries, therefore grave is real,
Hell is real.

What does this tells us?
It tells us that death is real.

Is this death of christians?

No, they are not for christians. They are for non christians (muslims, athiests, traditional idolatorers, judaismist, budhists, etc).

John 3:16 whosevers believes in him should not die but have everlasting life.

Since these group of people mentioned above have refused to believe in christ they will die, infact they must die

But you christians, you have been living on this earth since, and you will live forever (i know this is confusing, but it true whether you know about it or not).

In summary, heaven is real, we are the heaven, we are real people living.
And hell is real, if you doubt it go to cementaries graves are there

Popular Cool FM On Air Personality, OAP, Daddy Freeze, has called out Pastor E.A Adeboye of the Redeemed Christian Church of God, RCCG, for declaring 40 days fasting for members.

According to Freeze, Jesus Christ fasted for 40 days because he wanted the devil to tempt him so he could overcome temptation on behalf of the world.

He quoted Matthew 4:1 where it was recorded that “Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil.”

He asked the cleric if he wants the devil to tempt him afresh.

In an Instagram post, Freeze said if Adeboye wants to fast for 40days, he might as well nail himself unto a cross on behalf of humanity.

He wrote, “Why are the blind from the so called spiritual churches coming to a ‘carnal’ Church like the #FreeNation in Christ for assistance.

“What happens to all those blind will see, dead will rise crusades?

“Adeboye must also explain this his 40day fast that coincides with first fruit.

“Christ fasted for 40days because he wanted the devil to tempt him so he could overcome temptation on our behalf. READ THE SCRIPTURES!

“Why are you asking the devil to tempt you afresh? Why? Why don’t you kuku nail yourself unto a cross on behalf of humanity as well?”

God bless you op

They are all thieves

Na another man country una still go dey do this one?
Una don enter soup today

oboy81:
Tell that to The adulterous Jehovah's Witness Elders

i tot, these jw people thinks they are the only true religion, do they involve is sex too?

pressplay411:
This is a very exhaustive discussion. Perhaps we should discuss on WhatsApp. Kindly PM your number.

But the understanding is in John 3.
The difference is what disambiguates religious Christianity from True Christianity.

ok o

pressplay411:
If you're fine with the way your life is, I doubt it can benefit you.
But for those of us who have realised we're helpless, hopeless and useless without God, we run and hold on to Christ.

you are diverting to something else.
I didnt say christ, i say born again .
What is the benefit of suffering all that stress you suffer which is associated to born again when christ didnt ask you to suffer?

You go through the stress of going to church, pray, fast, not having sex, pay tithe, evangelíse, etc.
But me that do not go through all that. I enjoy my sex, i pray less, i go to church ones in a blue moon, i dont pay tithe. I am in the same heaven with you i didnt go to hell fire simply because i believe in christ just like you have done, there is no difference between you and me before God.

Is that not unfair?

pressplay411:
Lol thank you for asking. I was just addressing this earlier on a different platform.

Telling someone to live the Christian life sounds impossible.
The truth is, it is impossible for man.
Don't have sex, don't lie, don't gossip, don't do this, don't do that, be generous to the poor, pay tithes, fast and pray, go to church regularly, evangelise and win souls, don't go to the club, etc

Some times I hear myself and I can't help but think this must sound scary to an unbeliever.lol Just as the Israelites were scared to enter the promised land or even draw close to God at the mountain but rather asked Moses to go on their behalf.lol
But truly, it is also not an overnight change. It is a growth process. A journey through the wilderness.
Which is why it is wrong to judge a believer still struggling with certain sin or unrighteousness. Rather exhort and pray for them.
God has probably worked on other aspects of his life and only that one sin easily besets him/her. And with prayer and yiededness, that too shall pass.

So truly, it is impossible for man to live righteously. But as a Christian, it is very possible to live righteously.
Which is what makes me trust and believe in Christ the more.
It is not you or me trying to fulfill any of these. We can't.
Once you come into Christ, you receive Grace to become like Christ- The Holy Spirit.
It is no longer you trying to fulfill all these righteous-living.
It is Christ living inside us, the hope of Glory. Colossians 1:27
Yes, it is impossible for man, but with God, nothing is impossible.

Christianity cannot be adequately explained, it can only be experienced.
Explanation has led many astray as they either will get scared of it or they misunderstand the explanation to their own detriment.
But once you come into the Light and submit to the Lordship of Christ and yield to the leading of the Holyspirit... You are no longer human (mere man).
Selah

Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, the Life. John 14:6

does this born again experience worth anything at all?

Why do one need to go through all the stress?

I mean, christ has done everything or are you all not aware?

pressplay411:
Until you are born again, all I'm saying will sound like hogwash.
Let that be your priority this year. To know what it means to be born again. To know who Christ is. To know what it means to be like Christ. To know and have a personal relationship with the Holy Spirit.
Have a blessed year paxonel.

And you too.

But does it mean that born again is a difficult life as you people are putting it?

pressplay411:
Guess I misunderstood you.
Are you asking if marriage is scriptural?
Of course. It is the formal declaration of a marital union.

the african society and the church didn't define marriage this way.
The african society have it that unless the man pays the bride price and perform a ceremony he is never married.
But this definition you put here is very correct. That also means that if a bf formally declares his love for the gf and she accept it they have married like that.

Until that is done, you're not husband and wife.
And as you rightly quoted, he who finds a wife, not girlfriend.

Exactly!
Until the declaration is done they are not husband and wife, There must be agreement between the two parties.
And since bf and gf have agreed to love each other we dont need any further celebration or bride price to declare them husband and wife.
Celebration and bride price should be at the discretion of the couple(bf and gf) involve and not a demand from the society,parents and church.

So boyfriend or girlfriend is not a time for sex.
I actually do not advise such.
Because adults will be adults and if care is not taken one or both will eventually fall.

married people fall as well and get divorced is it not the same thing?

And once you start having sex, you might find it difficult to stop.

ahh! Stop?
Stop for what?
Husband and wife never stoped having sex now, why will they?

Besides, it has a way of clouding your judgments of one another.

there are no prove that everyone that are into bf and gf sex suffers this.

Boyfriend or girlfriend relationship has a limit of commitment.
You can break up at any time.

people that break up have this wrong mindset it should have a limit, they are not different from divorced married couple who at a point begins to think that the marriage should have a limit, lets go our seperate ways.
The african society and church should start seeing bf and gf as a very serious relationship which should be for people who are committed to each so long they are 18+

Until you both become husband and wife, it is wrong to engage in sex.

this theory has not been proven right.

Rather focus on building yourself in Christ, knowing what you want in your husband or wife. When they come around, you'll know. The only thing that would be on your mind then is marriage, not even courtship.

is that so?

Did you hear of any courtship in the scriptures?

oh, there are so many of them including Joseph and Mary

I already know what to expect in my wife, if you study the stories of the marriage of Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Esther, Ruth and pray about it, it will be revealed to you.

Isaac and Rebecah never married. Infact the bible recorded that Isaac saw Rebecah from afar, and fell in love, and took her in.
Whoever finds a wife finds a good thing.

The life is a very simple life but religion and society are making it difficult for themselves

Thegospelman:
What if there's rapture? What excuse would you give to God if you were abandoned by the Lord on that Day. Therefore, your condemnation is just.

you are saying "what if"

That is sign of uncertainty!

But me i am certain that there is nothing like rapture because i have read the whole bible i did not see it.
And you are not certain because you have not read the bible, you only depend on what pastors or church are saying.

Omooba77:
Leave us to God sir! The mercy of God has been keeping us.

who is taking you away from God?
So is the mercy of God keeping those who are not fasting, infact many of them are doing very well far more than you who are fasting.

pressplay411:
Lol OK. Even your societal laws dont support this. We are clearly not on the same page. Where does one start from?
Repent first.

society is faulty, lets be scriptural.

Only the bible can reveal the truth. It says whoever finds a wife findeth a good thing, not who has done marriage ceremony.

pressplay411:
Sex is for married couples.
Sex is so overwhelming, it has a way of consuming and controlling you once you start to engage in it.
Stop living sexually immoral and see how focused your life will be.

Is it easy? Certainly no.
Is it possible? Certainly yes.
Is it worth it? You wouldn't believe it even if I described the benefits.
God bless you sir.

are bf and gf not married couples?

Whats the difference between bf and gf with the married anyway?

There is nothing like rapture is the bible, you christians must get sense this year.

All what you are read in revelation are figurative languages and hyperboles which have occured during the days of John who wrote those things ,you dont need any of those things today.

You had better think of how to live your life better today and stop the childish rapture fictious doctrine