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asuustrike1:
England and France still have issues. The issue of gay marriage is prevalent in England which is against the same Christian doctrines they send to Africa

but in terms of general morality africa is far lagging behind?

Whoever practices gay, that is his own cup of tea, it will never affect the next person negatively.
But someone who corruptively steals public funds, that action alone will tell on the whole nation.

desiredhome:
So the pastor preaching stated that if you don't win soul you are not a Christian.
Don't agree with this statement seeing majority of the members not representing Christ, not judging though, Sounding like when someone goes to Church you are automatically a Christian
I can't ask the pastor because the system will not allow.

op, what does it mean to win a saul?
Is it preaching to fellow christians who are committing sin or to convert non christians(example: a muslim)into christianity?

When i say supernatural testimonies in churches are all lies they wount believe me

CodeTemplar:
was England or France free of corruption or corrupt people when they were giving the world missionaries?

No!
Infact England and France were the most corrupt people then
But atleast missionaries introduced the right teachings of the scriptures in their country a long time ago and the effect over the years is that, these nations became less corrupt over the years till today,that isnt the case in nigeria.
In England and France, they already had the accurate interpretation of scriptures inspite that things were not ok in their country, so they had the confidence to spead the truth they know to other parts of the world.
Missionaries brought christianity to this region of africa called nigeria today about 4 centuries ago. Instead of the level of corruption improving, the situation was fast deteriorating to what we are experiencing in nigeria today.
Why?
Because the missionary doctrines and teachings to africans in collaboration with african traditional beliefs(which was practically different from the doctrines of the church of england) do not correlate with common sense,logical reasoning, science and educational research and methodologies.

So the very truth England know did not translate to africa because of african tradition.

Now tell me, is that the kind of baseless doctrines a pastor in africa will buy private jet and travel to a developed country where people are more educated to teach?
I dont get it?

If you truly have the knowledge teach your people first, because your people are lacking knowledge from the look of things

Donbrig:
As a Christian, I have always admired with great passion the way Yoruba Muslims are tolerant with their religious beliefs, compared to other Muslims, particularly in the north. And I keep wondering why? Are Yoruba Muslims reading another version of the Quran or they differently understood Islam and its teachings?

it is not the same people who propagate islam to the north that brought islam to the south west.
Islam was propagated by thieves in the north.
These thieves came from sahara desert, they inculcated the culture of jihad and spreading islam by conquest building caliphates, killing people who dont accept the religion and instituting fear among the hausas and fulanis to accept the religion.
But that wasn't the case in the south west.
Islam was properly thought and interpreted among the yorubas, thats why the yorubas love education, check the history of the awolowos

CodeTemplar:
Did early missionaries in Africa finish spreading it in their backyard or stop over in middle east before spreading it to Africa?

this isnt time to spread any further. It is time to educate the people which the gospel has already been spread to .
I mean, there are no point jumping to another country when the country you are have at hand to teach and educate about scriptures are lacking in knowledge
Imagine, going to these countries with your private jet to teach bible, they will look at you and some sensible one among them will ask, how many bible knowledge people in your country nigeria have that they are known to be the most corrupt people?
And on top of your private jet, you will not have a valid answer to that question, is that not ridiculous?

CodeTemplar:
may be they should spread the gospel internationally with okada and keke.
Some of those pastors travel more than Buhari and yet we don't question Buhari for having almost a dozen jets.

are they through spreading the gospel in nigeria before taking it internationally?

Bribe is paying money to get a favour in return.
Tithe is paying money to get blessings in return.

Whats the difference?

rawfact:
Interesting. Buhari was also absent on his birthday.

oh! They have started fighting?

Foolish untrust worthy people who never trusted themselves in the first place

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herlecks:
And, I might take the step to report you if you do not cease with this sort of display.

report me for saying that what put up there is not scriptural?
That is childish now

Does this look like joke to you? If it does you need Jesus in your life.

you dont know what it means for someone to need jesus, you cant tell a fellow christian who has already have jesus like you have done, that he needs jesus, that is a show of ignorance.

If the so called youths are not seeing that the church is dying and foolishness is gradually creeping in into the church, who will the Lord send? Old men who shall soon die? What have you gained since you started criticising every truth you see?

there is no atom of truth in what you have posted. You miss quoted scriptures only to come up with lies that secular music isnt for christians.
You further misunderstood what the term THE WORLD means and associated the world to secular music which is a huge ignorance.
Now tell me, a talented christian who do secular music for living who gave him the talent?
Sciptures tells me there are diverse gifts and God give gifts according to how he willeth
Sometimes, you people talk you dont know what you are saying

What's in it for you? I perceive you love this present world so much, you wouldn't even go through the post for the fear that it might expose your folly and your unwillingness to repent.

i have gone through the post, infact i was like you. I used to preach all these before.
But the only thing i will tell you. Be a graduate of any college who sincerely studied, come back and look at your bible a again you will see things in a different light.
What am i saying?
The current state of the african mind without education is a dark world, you barely see beyond your nose.

You don't really seem like one who have a relationship with the Lord, just another church goer? Read your comments thus far, Jesus wouldn't say those things, neither would the apostles. When you claim to be a Christian, you soil the name Christianity. Please work on your relationship with Jesus, for you have proved that you lack something significant.

religion or no religion please lets propagate the truth.
1.God is not fighting humans.
2.He created humans to replenish this earth and not to destroy it.
3.He will not come down someday only to destroy humans effort of trying to replenish this world
4.it takes love in the heart of humans to replenish this world
5.secular music or whatever form of music is entertaining, we need them to be entertained to remain on this earth and keep replenishing it
6.i guess the reason why the likes of you are against secular music is because of the sexuality the portray most times, not necessarily because the scriptures are against it.

If you lack knowledge or revelation about this, ask God to enlighten you and illuminate your mind, not coming off attacking whatever you see.

i have just given you enlightenment from God. Stop fighting against God,he gives people talents.
Go and search for your own talent and impart this world positively, who knows if it will be music if you eventually discover it.

If the Lord truly inspired this post, you should be expecting to get punished

is that all?
Go and think twice

but I will pray for you here. Or do you think i'm one of your fake pastors and preachers who don't know the truth or who are afraid to preach the truth? You people shouldn't incur God's wrath unnecessarily.

this is how the fake pastors started preaching before they eventually became popular and infest this nation with corruption.

Seek knowledge first, this is all i am saying

herlecks:
No it isn't. Is gay marriage mentioned in the bible? But it's bad, right?

very bad argument!
What is the correlation between gay marriage and secular music /movies?

{5:19} Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these;] Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
{5:20} Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 
{5:21} Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like... (Galatians 5:19-21).

AND SUCH LIKE! There are still many more sins not listed in the Bible.

so you by yourself you want to list secular music into the sins mentioned here?
You are such a clown
No go look for handwork do first, make your brain configure to the right order.

Wait o!
You won enter show for free simply because na gospel show?
Do you know how much it takes to organise a show?

You nor well!
Na bouncer get you.

Op, you are a bush man!
Was secular music mentioned anywhere in the bible?

oshorstan:
When you're suffering n paying the price for greatness, people will laugh at your bent padded shoe called legedis Benz, n wen fortune smiles on u, bloggers will locate u n type shit. Freeze is a lost soul n a sadist. I am privilege to be close to papa cos of my friends that he has helped and my location. I live at Iyamho community, near Auchi so we know Suleiman story of how he has helped a lot of Edo people. He gave Young Messiah who happens to be my course mate 1M plus a Camry. He helps any of his member to start biz of their choice. he gives cars like water to his members n staffs. He sponsors many Edolites at Auchi poly and AAU, Ekpoma. He shares money to widows n the poor. He sponsors the poor children to school. Now he gives free tuition to members children who attends his school near Igbira camp there. He gives jobs to his members at his business set up. He sponsors his pastors to do anything, take them abroad n they split whatever money they made from the programme. He pays pension to his old pastors n get accommodation for his pastors. He connects his members to big time good politician for job. The list is endless.



My name is Omigie Oshor, and I dare FRZ

we all know this!

May be freeze is not asking the right question but understand what freeze is driving at.
What does a man of God need private jet for, especially a pastor from a third world country like nigeria?

Gemid94:
Founder of the Free Nation movement and Controversial on air-personality, Daddy Freeze has reacted to comment by the General Overseer of Omega Fire Ministries International, Apostle Johnson Suleman that pastors have the power to shut down bloggers who wrote something negative about them.


Read More On: http://naijachurchnews.com/daddy-freeze-reacts-apostle-sulemans-comment/

whaaaaat?? ??

Shut down a blogger for what?

Omo, i don hear another one

I support Reno on this,
Daddy freeze isnt asking the right questions.

A gift is a gift and nothing more.
Accepting an elaborate gift like private jet does not mean that suleman is not helping the needy.

But as for those other men of God freeze are fun of attacking who keeps deceiving church members that their next level is on the way, only for the church members to come and offer private jets, tithe and offering at the ulter, na God go judge them.

Then again, i ask the question : what does a man of God really need private jet for?

I believe that suleman will never keep this private jet. The right thing to do is to sell it to raise money for other things which are more better

MuttleyLaff:
Wasnt it you who said:
"whether the dates or calculations are right or wrong so long the celebrations are uniting christians worldwide and are great sources of happiness and consolation we dont mind but keep observing the dates and celebrations annually" huh?
Are you cherry-picking of facts and doing pick and choose ni?

i am a christian! I seek for the unity and happiness of christians worldwide, not tithing.
If some christians are tithing, thats their own cup of tea. But their actions will not stop me praying for their unity and happiness with other christians who dont pay tithe.
If christmas, good friday and easter sunday are uniting everyone then it is my joy.

Well obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing unites christians worldwide and they too are fixated on celebrating this aberration, but you knowing the truth about it, are not joining in their company behaving badly now.

because obligatory or imposed ecclesiastial monitised tithing are illegal and unscriptural financial distortion from ignorant unperceived christians that is what is making it bad. The negative effect.

We see no celebration of Easter nor Christmas in the New Testament. Easter, a pagan festival and Christmas celebration are uniting Christians worldwide into damnation, especially them that have come into the knowledge of this information and still unrepentant

but there are no substancial negative effect, therefore you cant say because it unscriptural or pagans started it first, therefore it is leading into damnation. Your argument do not follow that way.

In africa today, are there not christians who dressed like africans even to churches to glorify God?
Did dressing that way not originated from african pagans long before christianity came to africa?

Are there negative effects of christians dressing like african pagans?
I dont think so

Why are you people bendneck at trying to alter what fate has already design?

MuttleyLaff:
Validating, spreading and promoting the doctrine of obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing unites Christian worldwide and are great sources of happiness and consoltion to the beneficiaries but you who do mind, dont pay this same obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised. What is going on here, why not be consistent, behave in the same way and have the same attitude towards paying obligatory or giving imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing, huh?

obligatory or imposed ecclesiastical monitised tithing has nothing to do with good fridays, easter sundays and christmas.
I mean, i am a christian. I celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus christ on a fixed date all other christians are celebrating it world wide but i dont pay or collect tithe and no one can force me to pay or collect tithe.

MuttleyLaff:
This is exactly why I keep saying if more Christians read their Bible properly, they'd be less Christians taking Good Friday and 25th December as make beliefs, just as much like the tooth fairy and Santa Claus arent real.

It is Constantine or Catholic Christians and their lackeys, that will hold on to these lies after knowing the fact and truth

whether the dates or calculations are right or wrong so long the celebrations are uniting christians worldwide and are great sources of happiness and consolation we dont mind but keep observing the dates and celebrations annually.

MuttleyLaff:
If you are catholic christian, yes

Yep, you are on point on all your account(s)

https://reasonsforhopejesus.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/thurs-3-days-chart.jpg

No sire, aribitoye, because the Jewish day begins and ends at sundown, as in, the time in the evening when the sun disappears or daylight fades. Jesus was on the cross by 9:00am, died by 3:00pm Thursday day and was buried on same Thursday day before sundown
cc paxonel

i have said it.
It wount do anyone good to observe accurate calculations on this issue, just like it will not do anyone good to obtain the actual day Jesus was given birth to based on calculations.
Friday and sunday are already fixed and widely accepted for the celebration of jesus crucifixion and resurrection respectively, just like 25 th december is fixed and widely accepted for christmas.
No amount of accurate calculations can change these fixed dates, because changing these dates will not change anything.

MuttleyLaff:
Follow below

It always has been Good Thursday nwanne.

"It was the day of preparation, and the Jewish leaders didn’t want the bodies hanging there the next day, which was the Sabbath
(and a very special Sabbath, because it was Passover week).
So they asked Pilate to hasten their deaths by ordering that their legs be broken. Then their bodies could be taken down."
- John 19:31

It has to be on the authority of John 19:31 above, and no, I dont need to wanna try Good Wednesday because of the fact that the Last Supper occurred on Wednesday, never a Thursday, thus Christ was, in fact, crucified on Thursday, never a Friday.

Thursday day to Thursday night: Jesus was on the cross by 9:00am, died by 3:00pm and off the cross before sundown so 1 day and 1 night
The Jewish day starts at sundown or nightfall of the previous evening, and continues throughout the night and following day, until the next night.
Friday morning to Friday night day: 1 day and 1 night
Saturday morning to Saturday night: 1 day and 1 night (i.e. Jesus rosed before sunrise)
Sunday morning: Resurrection morning

you are absolutely right on this.
But like i said before, it is really not necessary to follow the accurate calculation you presented here and make it thusday.
Why?
Because friday is already widely accepted even though the calculation was wrong.

MuttleyLaff:
It does matter that it is 3 days and 3 nights as prophesised, and so it was 3 days and 3 nights

how does it matter?

Explain ?

Do you realise that Daniel prophesied that jesus was going to spend approximately 9 years on his journey from galilee to jerusalem where he was to be crucified but the time frame was shortened to less than 4 years?

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

That tells you that fulfilment of prophesies may not happen exactly the way it was originally intend to be, but the bottomline is, the prophecy is fullfilled.

Therefore it very meaningless to start asking question like time frame when what we actually need is fulfillment of the prophecy

TVSA:
what of this?


Matthew 12:40 KJV
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.


Friday afternoon to Sunday morning isn't up to three days and three nights

there is no necessity that what happened should be exactly how jesus described it.
What was necessary is that, jesus was in the grave 3 days before he resurrected.
Even if he was there 2 days and 18 hours that is close to 3 days already.

TMemos:
There is a big question hanging on crucifixion.

Jesus said he was going to spend 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth just as Jonah spent 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish.

Jesus was crucified on Friday. He was said to have risen on Sunday. This cannot be up to 3 days and 3 nights. The prophecy was not fulfilled and this is a big doubt on crucifixion and the entire Christian faith.

He spent two nights and a day!

It really do not matter whether it is 3 days and 3 night or less. The bottomline is Jesus died and resurrected after 3 days in the grave, thats all.

made2fit:
About 5 years ago, I stopped Paying tithes. I stumbled upon an article, searched the scriptures and discovered the truth about tithing. Not wanting to stir up controversy, I kept this to myself and continued in my service to God. Nevertheless, I became a committed giver, giving to church projects, programs, welfare and the needy as the need arises.

Now, last Sunday, I was given a preordination form for deaconship in my church. On this form are a couple of questions on tithes and tithing. Answering positive to these questions will make me a liar. After all, I don't tithe. But no one knows this since I'm a committed member and giver. Also, if I am ordained as a deaconess, there will be instances where I would have to promote tithes and offerings. Doing this would make me a hypocrite since I don't tithe or believe in it.

One part of me is telling me to think up a very good excuse to give the pastorate, simply forgo it and continue leading my quiet Christian life. Another part is considering it as an opportunity to serve God, take up spiritual responsibilities, build more confidence, and build a ministry. After all, God is the ultimate Judge of the heart of man.

Believers in the house, what do you think?

Modify: pls. let not turn this to another tithe thread. There are numerous discussions on tithe. It is exhausting! tithe this, tithe that, is tithing the gateway to heaven! Every man should do what he believes in. God knows who alone is his. I just need a little counsel to make a decision, that all. Thanks.

ofcourse yes!
You can take up the leadership position and even pay yourself from their tithe money. But dont pay a dime, it is foolishness to pay tithe.

Rapture is a dead doctrine!
It has no place in the bible.

Even op knows that 1000 years from now, nothing like rapture is happening because nothing like that will happen on this earth forever

Kei144:
Lk. 16:15 He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of others, but God knows your hearts. What people value highly is detestable in God’s sight.

meaning,rapture is not a false doctrine?

Pigledy higledy prophets and their fake rapture

Anyone distracted by this rapture story is a moi moi christian.

Dont go and make money and enjoy your life first.

Pigledy higledy prophets

This boy you get mind o, you are trying what your fada cannot do abi ?