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Maynman:
Your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist, my bad, your jewish savior exist only in the modern New Testament
You are worshipping a lie.

ok,

I'm done

MaxInDHouse:
He is an atheist sitting on the fence claiming traditionalist just to kick against the Bible i've dealt with him so he only goes about quoting everyone trying to provoke anyone into exchange of insults!

Maynman:
Your iesus chrestus doesn’t exist, my bad, your jewish savior exist only in the modern New Testament
You are worshipping a lie.

you did not answer the question i asked

jaephoenix:
The problem with the bible is its interpretation is as varied as possible.

no!
Don't go there

Every statements made in the bible have one definite interpretation, there is nothing varies

Thus the reason there are thousands of denominations spawning from just 1 bible.

wrong!

The reasons there ate thousands of denominations is because thousands bible teachers have their different meaning to one bible statement, but all their different means are deviations from from the one definite meaning the statement or verse is trying to explain

Kingdom of heaven can mean

it has a definite accurate meaning. Not that it can mean this or it can mean that.
This is how people keep trying their luck at the end they will not get it.
What exactly is that definite meaning?

the regular heaven y'all self-service about, could be souls of men etc

souls of what men?

jaephoenix:
Yes
It has led to many confusions and denominations. Prime example is this pain in the azz called Maximus, with their version of the bible and their interpretations. He and his gang have constituted a major hindrance to human progress. Their no-blood doctrine has killed thousands. So are other cults

quote one alterated scripture from the English version used by this so called Maximus let's see

Maynman:
Bible means books.
We are talking about the books in the New Testament.
What’s the first and original New Testament called?

When we are done we’ll move over to tanakh, Chrestians call Old Testament.

let's assume there was alteration like you said, are there any adverse effect of this so called alteration to modern day Christianity?

jaephoenix:
Bros I just told you I'm an ex christian. In fact 70%( my estimate) of Nairaland atheists are christians. I was very good with the bible. Was an SU(Scripture Union) don back in the days. I won bible drills. Etc etc. So I'm no stranger to the bible. And I found out its a load of fairy tales

what is the kingdom of heaven as mentioned in most Jesus parables in the new testament?

Maynman:
I’m just starting.
The first and original New Testament called codex sinaiticus is the most DOCTORED AND EDITED DOCUMENT IN HISTORY, just New Testament alone oo, we never even talk about tanakh you christians call Old Testament.

did Britannica specify were exactly in the bible that was corrected?
If yes, show me one example of an original verse and it correction

SeniorMan715:
Their earn is to spread delusion

Exactly!
And that's why they will never see satisfaction

Maynman:
You don’t even know the bible(books) you base your life on ATALL!

OK, is that all?

Maynman:
bible means collection of books, written by UNKNOWN AUTHORS!

OK,
That is the limit to which you know about the bible

jaephoenix:
Have you seen the the Vedas, the Tripitaka and the Koran before. That's where the evidence lies, take your time to read them.
Lets continue being retaarded

but i or any Christian for that matter never bothered to question the validity of these books.
If I as a Christian begin to bother whether what these books you just posted here stands for, are valid or not, then i should go ahead to read them and see things for myself.
Where I don't understand i will ask questions from people who have read the book.but if i don't bother about these books to read or understand them, then i shouldn't question it validity, I should remain neutral.
Why then atheists are so bothered to question the validity of the bible without wanting to read it or even ask questions from people who have read it about it content?

jaephoenix:
Atheists have searched thoroughly for a god all their lives with no result and been harping here for years about u guys submitting evidence of your god, yet nothing. So we have no choice but to agree there's no god. But if u still have one, do let us know, sir

have you seen a book called the bible before?
That's where the evidence lies, take your time to read it

One key element of truth-seekers is that, they respect simple logical identity law which summarizes that if one do not know the identity of a thing(for instance God's existence) then he cannot say anything categorically about it.

For atheists to categorically argue what they don't know about God's existence as if they have some automatic discerning spirit from their logical conclusions, is a proof already that they are never sincere people.
And you know what insincerity breeds?
unhappiness

litigator:
Hmmmm! So, God is a Christain?

this is a different question from your first question what religion is practiced in heaven.
The bible indicated that no one has ever seen God talkless of knowing God's religion, but Christianity was established on earth by Jesus Christ who is God, for humans to believe in God, not for God to believe in himself or have a religion.

If yes, how do you prove this to the Jews and the second largest religion.

i don't need to prove anything.
The prove is in the bible, whoever want the prove should get one and read.

What kinda question is that?

Heaven is Christianity itself.
Whosoever believes in Christ should not perish...

Why will one be baptized with the holy ghost in the first place?

You are saved by your belief that's all.
You don't need all these religious formalities of baptism of the water or holy ghost or speaking in tongues or whatever. Though they are not bad but they aren't necessary. They are only meant for the show.
The real thing is Romans 10:8

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

Just say the word that's all it requires, you can even say it in your heart.

What is the word to say?
The word is, THAT JESUS IS THE CHRIST which is your belief

OllyDiamond:
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Hmmm, you seriously need a mind overhaul because you completely lack understanding. You misconstrue things so terribly. May the Holy Spirit help your understanding

let's have a simple study :

Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

can you proof that the words flesh or things of the flesh used in this scripture implies fornication or adultery?

I want to see how you understand this scripture by the help of the holy spirit

The purpose of life is to be career-wise engaged, make your money and enjoy your life.

God gave Adam a career from the beginning, and that is to replenish this earth.
You too much make money and replenish your world.

Dtruthspeaker:
Ah! See how you have mixed up everything because you do not understand and now, I know that you are set on not understanding, as you like it the way all is jumbled up in your mind and you do not want anyone here to change it.

So, all I would say is that you are wrong. Everything starts in spirit and ends physically as proven by fornication and adultery aka lust in your heart and mind, which we all know starts in our spirit even before it is implemented physically.

that's what conventional religion has conceived in your heart to see when you read those scriptures. Not that fornication, adultery or lust were even mentioned anywhere in that scripture.

You hear the words flesh or canally minded the next thing you think in your mind is, it's talking about fornication, adultery and lust

Religion don spoil una for Africa finish

Dtruthspeaker:
And everything spiritua alwaysl manifests, physically as it is always said.

no!

That statement isn't 100% correct.
They do not always manifest, infact the spirit was never meant to manifest in anything on earth from the beginning of creation. It's just that, God have to intervene on humans sometimes, due to Adam's disobedience

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

So, there is separation between the flesh and the spirit

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

So there is flesh or this physical world and it thing separated at one side, while the spirit things are separated at the other side.
The two were not suppose to meet, unless God deem it fit for them to meet only when it is necessary. For instance, a supernatural miracle occurence.

That's why Jesus said my kingdom is not of this world.
Because the kingdom is a spirit thing

Dtruthspeaker:
Don't deceive yourself, when you are saved, it clearly and indisputably shows like the man who was locked up for 20years until he was saved.

when you hear that a Christian is saved, he is saved from what exactly?

Unless and until the police came to save him, he can deceive himself while he was still in the room.

your illustration is physical occurence or what can happen in this life which doesn't necessarily apply in the sprit.

Salvation is spiritual

Brainwashed or no brainwashed you are equally a Christian and are equally saved.

For me, going to church is good for one thing, and that is the connection

Certainly

I believe you sir

Yes

Abdul05:
U just like fooling urself..

Check am

It is scam

W

Maynmann:
That’s a cheap lie.
More Christians convert to islam than vice versa.

Do you know what 10m is?

if that is true, how that one won put food for your table you this hungry man?

Ignorance is usually number one excuse