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OGwales:
Sorry friend, God was never in existence.

you can't impose this belief to anyone, you have to present a strong argument first

Just like all natural and real things, we wear and tear. The plants you eat, the animals you kill... We ain't better than them in death.

how do you know this, have you ever find yourself at a realm after death to know this?

LordReed:
The Hindu gods are older than your god so by your logic the Hindu gods are superior to yours.

in that case the op should have referred to the Hindu gods that he is scam since he is superior.

An inferior god does not need the attention of the op now, abi?

If that inferior God is not that affecting the op let him channel his attention to a superior Hindu gods, is that difficult to do?

You people don't know what you are joking with

OGwales:
I have always told people that the imaginary being called God na lies and fabrications. A group is killing other humans for their so called weak but wicked God and prophet, the other is trying to be too nice because of an imaginary heaven and hell

We better get sense and defend ourselves. God no fit help anybody because he is simply dumb, powerless and careless.

after you die perhaps another 90 or 100 years from now, people will still worship and talk about the same God you call imaginary, do you see how dumb you are?.

By then, your today post and agitation becomes useless like other atheists like you who agitated against God some 1000 years ago, and we living today don't even hear anything about them and their agitations anymore
and meanwhile, people are still talking about him today, making their agitation a waste of time and energy.

The same thing will apply, even the popularity of the God you call imaginary will outlived you after another100 years. That shows how powerful the God you call imaginary is, and you are nothing but a dead rat wasting his time talking

kingxsamz:
Nlgga, billions of people all over the world literally believe or have believed in different kinds of gods with various appearances attributed to them

from the on-set, it was natural for humans to believe in the existence of a god or some deities due to their primitive nature.
Primitivity still exist among humans today(among Christians, atheists, Muslims, Hinduists, Judaists, traditionalists and every religion) no doubt, but even the most advanced humans with all sense of reasoning still believe in the existence of God.
Why?
Because there is a valid argument put forth in support for his existence. That valid argument is found in the bible. That's why Christianity still grows even faster among advanced societies of today and atheists, inspite their sophistication of their reasoning all these centuries ago are still few in number today. Because their arguments isn't and was never sound enough.

So your fallacy of popularity is really funny.
The fact that you even used that as a defense for your belief already shows you're not good with arguments.

if you were in my shoes right now you wouldn't do less.
I mean,with all sense of irrational judgement forget that if you were Christian, after knowing what was written in the bible.
You match it with the current facts and realities about religions worldwide in terms of population and see the correlation. The evidence is ernomous, but somewhat hidden.

Now, I'm not asking you to be a Christian.
I'm not asking you to read bible.
I'm only letting you know why people like us stick to the religion. That there is something we have seen in it that atheists havent seen.

So I'll end it here lol.
As for the remaining part of your post, whether you feel those actions should be regulated or not does not change the fact that non believers are affected by it and won't stop criticizing such beliefs. Goodnight.

constructive criticism is allowed

NewSoul:
Really

He's not a magician now

But was a magician with Moses to turn rod into snakes. Prevented Daniel from being eaten by lions. made Jesus disappear from enemies when it wasn't time to die.

Saved John the beloved from frying in a pot of boiling oil. Saved Meshach, Shadrach and Abednego from roasting in a furnace but Kids that that followed their parents to shout "praise the Lord" hallelujah . He is not a magician for those ones ok, I have heard

magicians perform tricks for a show and they are aplauded.
God did not perform miracles recorded in the bible for a show. The miracles were long term purposeful and were to establish his covenants between him and humans.
Now that the covenants have been established there are no need for miracles anymore.

Whenever you see unfortunate situations like that of the owo killings, it shows that the nation isn't secured internally, and that isn't God's fault, rather it is a sign of a dysfunctional government which can be fixed by good governance and not prayer or miracles

kingxsamz:
Hmm.. So what if the existence of this creature with five heads is believed by more than 2 billion people who feel the need to preach to people about this creature in schools, public transportation, public places, markets?

that isn't possible!
By nature, humans are not that foolish.
Before humans will accept the argument to the extent that two billion people are being convinced, that means there is atom of truth in the argument.

They even go as far as mounting speakers near people's homes

there should be laws to regulate these excesses. Where there is non, it means the government isn't doing enough

while some literally knock on people's doors just so everyone can hear about this creature with five heads.

if anyone knocks my door the first question i will ask is, how does the presence of a five headed creature on space affects my life here on earth?
Are history of human encounter with the creature documented anywhere like the history of human encounter with God documented in the bible?
If the argument theeeof are not sensible and relative enough why then should i listen further?
Infact, I will not even bother talking about the vistor talkless of his message and it ends there

These same people use this creature's name to justify a lot of wicked actions which affect the lives of human beings. So tell me why those who don't believe in this creature shouldn't talk and criticize such belief?

your criticism should go to the people and their excesses, not the creature that you know nothing about.
Whether the creature truly exist or not does not warrant anyone to perpertrate any act of misconduct and absolute irresponsibility

kingxsamz:
You got schooled.

you just clarify your statement

NewSoul:
I am not an atheist please. But I was just wondering what sin a year or 2 year old would have committed that prevented angels from keeping charge over his little children.

I did not purposely want to include the adults because a christian here (Dtrusthspeaker) will say that they are just church goers and that they are not true born again and that they must have done something to warrant their not being protected by God.

A man of God who was once a deep sinner has testified of how God made a bullet shot at him physically go back to who shot it. He was protected by a divine intervention but innocent children who probably have never even told a lie had to die just like that without no divine intervention. How please?

God isn't a magician or babalawo!

He is God

doggedfighter:
Most atheists were once religious so may find themselves saying things like ' oh my God' once in a while because they're used to such phrases not because God means anything to them or that God exists.



That's what I am saying !

ok

FirstSon01:
Nice stuff. Now I want to explain to you why you have sawdust in your brain.

may be you should go deductive rather than inductive in your argument: otherwise one may count that this statement of yours is fallacious attacking the personality rather than treating the issue on ground

I always jokingly tell my friends that I serve Zeus, so I always say "oh my Zeus" and "in Hercules name", and I also say I want to go to Olympus.

hmm! I dey hear you

So now, from your rather daft

insultive words are fallacies.
Leave insulting and say your argument clean

Zeus, Hercules, Hades, Aphrodites and Olympus all exist since I as an atheist always mention them??

how many times are all these greek gods mentioned by atheists or anyone else on NL such that they become an issue of concern to atheists just like it is with the Christian God today?

Using the NL religious thread as a case study Can you mention one thread on NL that any of these greak gods were mentioned between yesterday and today such that you have arheists commenting, compared to the number of Christian and Muslim threads we have seen between yesterday and today on NL?

doggedfighter:
They do on impulse as a result of indoctrination not because it still means anything.


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well, not everyone are indoctrinated.
Some religious people took time to study and find out the truth and still believed.

It seems atheists are always looking for indoctrinated people to conquer rather than studying themselves

Yes

You cannot keep mentioning what doesn't exist.

I can come and tell you that a creature with five heads and seven lungs exist somewhere in space, and you will only look at me like a mad man saying his filthy imaginations without mentioning anything about the creature, because there is no point keep mentioning what does not exist, and you will not hear anyone else saying anything about such creature because it simply do not exist.
But by the time i tell you that God exist and you find yourself keep mentioning the God from time to time on NL religion section and elsewhere, then it is an evidence that the said God exist

Nezzjnr:
I've noticed this for a very long time, Nowadays most churches are scared to lose members so they have to preach what the members want to hear.

Am I the only one noticing this?


Mynd44

Lalasticlala

because everyone in church are saved. Therefore the message of salvation should be channelled to Muslims and other non Christians .

The apostles of the old preached to non Christians, i don't know why salvation should be preached to Christians

Interesting15:
Free sex is not actually free. For every action, there is a reaction. When you had "free" casual sex with someone not your married spouse, don't think you have had a free meal that won't had a price attached (a resultant effect) - you have actually taken poison.

You see, God, the Great Manufacturer of sexual pleasure, gave a commandment as touching how these things should be approached: All forms of sexual pleasure should be shared between a man and his married wife in the safe confines of their marriage institution, with no other party involved.


So, sex is not even meant to be 'free' from onset, as it is not meant to be a 'playing thing' which you have with just anyone just for fun. God has made sex a sacred thing that should be between a married couple so He could achieve certain purposes without issues. One of these purposes is to ensure the continuous enhancement of the bond between a husband and his wife - because these things are His delight. So, just as you can't handle gold and diamond just anyhow due to their value and essence, you shouldn't approach sex just anyhow you like because of it divine purposes. It is a sacred act that should come with responsibilities - between a married couple. Sex is not meant to be 'let's just do it without emotional attachments'. Sex is not meant to be 'free'

Also, when you had your 'free' immoral sex, you are actually buying negative things into your life - curses, STDs, heartaches, soul aches, etc. So, is it really 'free'?

Please, take these things with seriousness. Take the things of the Spirit with seriousness. And if you have committed the sin of fornication or adultery, go on your knees and ask God for forgiveness. He will definitely restore you and all what you've lost in Jesus Name.


Listen to me my friends. We were created by our loving God to thrive and flourish in Him. However, the evil devil capitalized on sin to cause a separation between us and our loving Father. Nevertheless, because God loves us so much, He came in Jesus Christ to redeem us back to Himself. When we embrace Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, we receive eternal life (the very Life of God), and we are empowered of the Precious Holy Ghost to live a fulfilling life of bliss and victory, where we live in perfect dominion here on earth and reign triumphantly in eternity.

Please, don't settle for less. Don't settle for mediocrity in sin. Jesus will help you live above sin.

Scriptures says: "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son (Jesus) that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." (John 3:16).

Now, how can you make things right with God your Creator?

"That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes to righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made to salvation." Romans 10:9,10

Walk with Jesus Christ in Spirit and in Truth henceforth.

God bless you in Jesus Name.

https://www.sundayakanni.com/2022/06/free-sex-is-not-really-free.html?m=1

op, what is marriage?

We go still vote

newsbeam:
Then what is fornication?

fornication is something that has to do with sex with a relation.
For instance, sex with a Father's wife

1 Corinthians 5:1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

This is the only scripture in the bible that the word fornication was clearly defined

Truvelisback:
Good day, fellas. There is nothing like sex b4 marriage, unless u mean sex b4 wedding. Every act of sex establishes marriage, whether dowry is paid or not. Any one u have sex with is automatically ur wife because sex involves blood and it is only what makes Two to become One, not ur wedding. Heaven sees it that way and soul tie and covenant established. So, u may have many wives but one u do tradition or church wedding. 1Cor6:16 And don't u realize that if a man joins himself to a prostitute, he becomes one body with her? For the scripture says, the two are united into one.

absolutely correct!

Only that saying that sex imvoles blood isn't correct

AdventHero:
What is the Motive behind your decision to follow Christ?

To have eternal life knowing that I'm not a perfect being. John 3:16

Jw says thank God they are better than others.
Born again people says Catholics are worshipping images.

Me I'm saying Christianity is one.
There is neither catholic nor born again nor jw nor circumcision or whatever

IDIOTmoderators:
So you cannot comprehend the use of the word "fair" by the guy? Even after the guy says Buhari is a disaster!

oh!
I didn't know that was what the guy said

You are ranting unnecessary rants! Even your own certificate needs checking.

if i had know i shouldn't have ranted

Don't worry, by the time i learn how not to rant unnecessarily, I must aqcuire a certificate for that

Talawaka:
Buhari rightly earned his school leaving certificate with 4 O'levels.
Please decease from rehasing re-tard-ed yarns which do nothing for probity.

Has he being an economic disaster as you put it? Absolutely!
However, what is fair is fair, stop conflating unrelated and discrete issues!

fair performance abi?
What do you call fair?
Is it education and reoccurring ASUU strikes?
Is it insecurity, bad roads and unstable electricity supply?

What exactly are you saying fair?

Anyway,whatever you call fair the last time i checked Nigerians don't need someone that will give them such fair performance, they need an absolutely performing leader considering the current dwindling economy and security challenges faced by the people as a result of administrative incompetence of the Buhari government owing to his academic qualification.
For instance, when they say ASUU strike, does it mean anything to Buhari?
The answer is no!

Why?
Because he has never been to university before to know what it actually means

And now, one man calling himself Tinubu who only had what is equivalent to a community school certification and was privileged to acquire his wealth through oil and gas, want to be your President?
How are you sure he will not be a monumentary and economic failure like that of the Buhari government?

You people are gambling with your children's future.

Philipponzaghi:
The CITY BOY went to Richard Daley college for 2-year community college which will be close to going to a polytechnic in Nigeria like you said.

Then after graduation, he proceeded to use that result to apply for Chicago state university and transferred his credits to the school and he graduated his BSc from the school.

What is not clear in that?

The conclusion is that:
—Asiwaju attended Richard Daley college for 2-years and graduated

—Proceeded to Chicago state university to complete his BSc Degree

—Graduated and got a Job at Deloitte USA

—At Deloitte, his client was Saudi Aramco from where he secured some network in the oil industry.

—He left Deloitte to start working at Exxon Mobil where he rose to Treasurer position.

—He left Exxon Mobil for politics to this day!

CITY BOY is our candidate

This is how that MANNAGBRILLS in 2015 canvassed everywhere on NL for Buhari that the old man had a viable certificate.
Buhari currently is a monumentary and economic disaster, where is he now?

Do you Nigerians learn your learns all all after eight years?

xproducer:
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Correction, and notwithstanding the differences between the old covenant / testament and the new covenant / testament... the entire Holy Bible is the inerrant word of GOD!

very true!
That inherent word of God does not annul certain natural currence in human history.
You will notice that over time, humans tend to evolve from certain primitive order to a more civilised way of doing things. Such kind of evolution or change is natural.
So, when you read from the old testament that God instructed Israelites to kill the Amorites, among humans in the old testament such kind of killings were never considered as injustice because people were very much primitive.
But this modern day were the primitive level has become relatively low due to education it is unacceptable to image that kind of mass killings, that's why you can afford to say God was wicked to instruct such killings.
but in the real sense it wasn't God, it was just that the people were still primitive enough not to consider the killings injustice, so it was never injustice.

Come to the new testament you will never see anywhere that Christians or anyone were instruct to carry out mass killings, because the people of the new testament were refined or evolved and were less primitive. So any such kind of killings at that will be considered injustice.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." - 2 Timothy 3:16-17

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." - 2 Peter 1:21

it still apply

Hohenheim:
What does a passage in the bible have to do with Christianity? Which kind mumu question be that?
Christians are literally inspired by the bible, or some passage matter and other don't?.

I always tell you atheists, next time ask questions where you don't understand in the bible,before coming out to say what you don't know.

The scripture you quoted isn't the bible but Judaism's Torah.
It is written in the bible does not mean that it is of Christianity.
Christianity originated from Judaism so most scriptures in the old testament like the one you posted are there for Christians to compare and contrast to see the difference between what was obtainable at the time of the old testament with what is obtainable in the new testament which is the actual Christianity.

Or I will adjourn you should go to Judaism section on NL(if there is any such thing) to post your thread of hatred towards God whom you can't even see and leave the bible and Christians out of your posts

Hohenheim:
What does this passage of the bible have to do with I posted?

what does the passage you of the bible you posted have to do with Christianity?

jesusjnr2020:
Why My Target Is No Longer Heaven

It's because I'm now aiming for God's heart.

Though my initial target used to be heaven because the last thing I wanted to do, was to end up in hell.

But when I began to walk with God and got to know Him, I was like, what?

Are you kidding me?

Is this what I have been missing all this while?

To be honest, I wished I had gotten to know Him much much earlier, and if possible all through my whole life, because God is the best thing that I had ever known and the best thing that had ever happened to me, past, present and even future.

And that is not flattery by any means, infact it's a huge understatement, as mere words cannot even describe Him. He's just too good to be true.

I began to see why those that truly got to know Him in the past, wouldn't trade Him or His position for anything else, but would do or give anything to keep Him, because God just too much, walahi! So once you truly get a taste of Him, you'd never want to let Him go, because you become hooked for life, and just can't get enough of Him.

So despite that God wasn't my original target, having come to know Him, He has won over my heart, soul and mind, that my target is now to please Him and be as close to His heart as possible.

That's why my target is no longer heaven, but He who dwells in it.

And this has been my target for about 20 years now and still counting.

To God be the glory!

Thank God you are gradually understanding the truth and become less religious. I'm happy for you

Mikestar256:
Would you buy a used car with a license plate ending in 666? Or take a job at an office tower in New York City with the address 666 Fifth Avenue? After all, 666 is the infamous "number of the beast," allegedly Satan's secret code for evil.

In the biblical apocalyptic book of Revelation 13:18, it reads, "Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is 666."

From that passage, it sure sounds like 666 is Lucifer's lucky number. But when you dig deeper into the Bible and its historical context, there's evidence that the author of Revelation was using numbers to send his early Christian readers a coded message.

666 is just like any other number, there is nothing significant about it.

In the book of revelation, 666 or the beast was spoken figuratively : it represent a dominant religion as at the time Christians like Banabas, Paul, Peter and James etc were persecuted. This religion persecuted Christians and refused them to buy or sell, until they accept to deny Jesus Christ and follow the religion. Such religion perhaps may have lost it dominance today and has nothing to do with our future or our present lives.

Please live your life today and plan for tomorrow, forget about the rubbish gibberish called mark 666, there is nothing like that

What is so sacrosanct about church anyway, that one should not pick his call if the call is important?

Hohenheim:
Joshua 10:12-14

12 On the day the Lord gave the Amorites over to Israel, Joshua said to the Lord in the presence of Israel:

“Sun, stand still over Gibeon,
and you, moon, over the Valley of Aijalon.”

13 So the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, till the nation avenged itself on its enemies, as it is written in the Book of Jashar.
The sun stopped in the middle of the sky and delayed going down about a full day.

14 There has never been a day like it before or since, a day when the Lord listened to a human being. Surely the Lord was fighting for Israel!

Not only did God kill everyone on earth by stopping the earth from spinning, he also clearly states that he doesn't listen to human beings, yet Christians keep wasting their time and energy praying to God.

you will not see the scripture that is important o, and ask yourself, How did the fictional Jesus(if truly he was fictional) knew and put a parable 2000 years ago that Christianity will grow to become the largest religion on earth today.

Matthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:
Matthew 13:32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof.

Na the one were people die na you want to see. As if we all will not die someday

KINGJAJA888:
Pls Shut Up. Stop forcing your Stupid Religion down People's throats. It only makes them hate you more.

no one is forcing anything on you.
You have the option to look away and face your business when you hear or see religious people.
But that will never be the case because you are affected

KINGJAJA888:
Everywhere I go Jesus Jesus. This brainwashed Nigerians won't allow somebody have Peace in this Country. Must Everybody believe in your useless God??.
I Can't have a reasonable conversation with my fellow Nigerian without them Mentioning the white Man's Jesus at any single instance they get. I'm Legit fed up.

It is a proof that God exist.

What doesn't exist cannot affect you

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