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Maynman:oya! Post any statement from your religious book let's see ![]() |
Maynman:How will it possibly make sense when you have never read the book before? Yet you are requesting a proof from a book you have never read in your entire life? ![]() Where did Greek Jesus say anything about Christianity?yes, yes.. The thing don dey come out, tell me more ![]() You assumed that the mustard seed means Christianity? Why not Judaism, where Christianity was extracted fromThe Turah don't have any record of Jesus talkless of claiming any Jesus statements. Now, where is your religious book? Post a statement from it let's see ![]() |
FatherOfJesus:certainly, one of these 4000 religious books should present a valid argument over the rest |
Maynman:OK, let's do this ![]() In my religious book the bible, there was a statement Jesus made approximately 2000 years ago Matthew 13:31 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field: Matthew 13:32 Which indeed is the least of all seeds: but when it is grown, it is the greatest among herbs, and becometh a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in the branches thereof. Mustard seed(tiny seed) represent few people(just 120 people) practicing Christianity 2000 years ago. Today, that number has grown into a large tree( currently about 2.3 billion people practicing Christianity world-wide (Google it) How did Jesus knew that this trend was going to happen? Now, I have just present to you a statement that was made 2000 years ago that can be verified today that the trend happened after 2000 years Show me something in your religious book as an atheist that you can verify using what is trendy today ? I'm waiting ![]() |
Maynman:Hello, I did not change anything. I still stand on what i said : if you have never read a book to know it content you have nothing categorically to say about it. Don’t tell us to read your bookThen, you have nothing to say categorically about my religion whether spirit realm exist or not, you should be neutral. You should present a sound argument and proof of your Yahweh outside your book as you’ve advised other religion to do alsoI never advice others to proof anything outside their religious books |
Maynman:I don't Bash other people religious ideas and request for proofs of what they teach, I'll rather learn to read their holy books and extract the proof I'm looking for if what they teach bothers me that much. How many other religious book have you read to know their content and see the proofFirstly, I don't request for proof or enquire into any religious tenets or beliefs from any other religion, why then should i read their religious books? I expect adherents of other religions do the same with me. But if any adherent of other religion want to educate me about his religion, then he should present a sound argument. and hope you were neutral?ofcourse I'm always neutral |
Maynman:Are there valid arguments presented by these religious books? Let them be published, they will be widely accepted so long the arguments are genuine. One thing i know about the human mind, humans are always inquisitive towards knowing what is the truth especially in this modern generation where there is wisdom and understanding. You present a sound argument, they listen to you and see the correlation of what you are saying with other truth they already know. That already is a proof that what you are telling them is the truth. But if another person bring his argument and it is not sound enough, then they will settle for your own that is sound and correlated to reality and reject the other person This explains why more people practice one religion while few people practice the other. More people will practice a religion because more truth is found in it tenets And less people will practice a religion because it tenets are far from reality |
Hermes119:The bible How about growing an amputated limb,the only thing science can provide is a prosthetic and that is still very much deficientWe have seen handicaps doing great things, greater than what a lot of wholesome people can do. So, being deficient has nothing to do with the physical state of the body, it is a problem of the mind. You know, it's good that one is seeing himself or herself being whole in the body and healthy. But peradventure if anyone is handicapped by any circumstances, so long he is alive he has the responsibility to keep himself happy and be functional to the society doing things that will put value to himself. By so doing, his current situation wount be a problem that require a miracle. You are a mere human like me and as far as I know you are not in the position to school me on whether a spirit exists or not or what a spirit is in the first place except when you prove so. I do not believe in spirits,period.no, I'm not the position to school you on your belief, I'm not even trying to convince you to believe in spirits ![]() All I'm saying is, people like us that believe, have seen what you are yet to see, that's the difference. It's like I choose to read a book and know it content. You choose not read the book so you wouldn't possibly know it content, it's normal. But by the time you hear me speak about the book and you ask, where is the proof of what i have just said? Then i will refer you to the book i read. If after that you still choose not to read the book, that means you will still not possibly know that there is a proof until you have dedicate time to read it. So, pending on anytime you choose to read your position about the book should remain neutral |
Hermes119:no! Except in a situation that requires the spirit to intervene. Such situations are not common in this present era because humans are knowledgeable enough to profound solutions to a lot of problems compared to the primitive times when the bible was documented. So, we read in the bible that God intervened and heal someone infected with leprosy. That isn't necessary anymore today because, through advancements of medical science diseases like leprosy were largely eradicated in the human population. I don't believe in the spirit realmbecause you have not yet encounter anything in the spirit or anything from the spirit. That's why you should remain neutral pending on whether you will encounter such thing or not |
Hermes119:His role is to judge in the spirit realm and not in this physical existence because he is a spirit. Now, do you ever perceive the spirit realm before, be sincere? |
RoyalDiadems:are there Christians that are not born again, what's the difference? |
FeliciaOja:you just dey mistalk anyhow
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After, dem go quote am say do not be equally yoked with unbelievers and start to the judge the man for inside the shursh |
RoyalDiadems:Absolutely true! This is the gospel truth The Kingdom of God is God's rulership and sovereignty over a man's life.perfectly correct Being baptized in water does not signify being born again. You can have water baptism without having the born again experience. "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature..." That renewal is the aftermath of a rebirth.very true! But the renewal does not implies that the renewed believer is different from anyone else simply because he is a new creature. People like us we often pretend as if we don't know what Jesus meant by born again to Nicodemus whenever we hear people like you speak. All because the vast majority of Christians today had this preconceived notion that born again actually means being an extra-exceptional believer. So, we pretend as if we don't know and assume that when you say born again, you mean a believer. But in the real sense we know that is not the case. We know that no one on earth is exceptional no matter how had we try make people believe that we are. 1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Secondly, the Christian water baptism of today, is not the same water baptism with that of John the Baptist Whenever you see Christians doing water baptism today, it is not a replication of what John the Baptist did in the bible |
RoyalDiadems:I'm not asking you to judge immediately. I expect you to go back and see to yourself whether what i have said is write or wrong and that will require you to read your bible all over again. It is not hard to understand the Kingdom of God. It is the sovereignty of God in the life of a man, community or nation. When a person comes to a point where obedience to God is the ultimate in all he does. Jesus is Lord of all his activities. The Holy Spirit reigns supreme in his thoughts and actions, producing righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Ghost, that's the kingdom of God Romans 14:17.Very true! But it goes beyond all these. John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent. Simple ! The kingdom of God is to believe in Jesus Christ that's all. John 3:16... whosever believeth should not perish but have everlasting life To be born again is to be reawakened in your spirit to be reintroduced into the presence of God as it was in the beginning.no! You didn't quote any scripture in support of this because there is no such scripture. What you have said is assumption from religion, not the bible. We were made to believe certain things by religion yet we never bothered to ask questions, why am i believing these things? Born again is what Jesus told Nicodemus John 3:5 Jesus answered,Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. It was like Jesus was quoting what was written down to the hearing of Nicodemus that a man must born of water first, before the kingdom . To born of water(which is born again) was the ministry of John the Baptist and not of Jesus Christ. It was prophesied that John the Baptist will baptise with water first, before Jesus come to baptise with the holy spirit which is the kingdom. So, born again is different from the kingdom. Born again was only a means to convey believers into the kingdom while the crucifixion was the kingdom itself. Born again terminated after Jesus was crucified, ofcourse John the baptise was killed before Jesus was crucified so he didn't even see the kingdom in his time. that's why i said that thing called born again today is scam, it's not part of Christianity Jesus told his disciples in Luke 13 Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Mark the phrase AT THE GATE What is the gate? The gate is time when Jesus will be crucified, that is where the difference was made, the gate of the kingdom. So, the disciples didn't enter the kingdom until he was crucified. |
MaxInDHouse:jw are hiding in disguise of what other religious bodies believes, in order to actualise themselves as born again abi? Unknown to them, that very doctrine of the conventional church they took from, and disguise to be, is a already a scam ![]() They gave to you an offer of second class citizens and you gladly and proudly identity yourselves with it. Can you see why people will never take jw seriously? |
MaxInDHouse:do you remember where the phrase born again was written in the bible? It was with Nicodemus! If you have read it before you will understand why i say your jw is a scam |
RoyalDiadems:do you know that if this was exam you will fail worefully? Do you know Christ meant by the kingdom of God here? The kingdom of God was simply a transition between the old covenant and the new covenant. The kingdom of God started right from the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ which marked the beginning of the new covenant wherein Christianity was established on earth. And Jesus told Nicodemus, except a man be born again he shall not see the kingdom of God you know what that implies? it means except a man be born again he shall not see his death and resurrection, he shall not see Christianity, he shall not see the new covenant. So, what does it mean to be born again in this context? It means to follow Jesus Christ and be his disciple until he is crucified and resurrected. Meaning, being born again wasn't part Christianity or the new covenant or the kingdom but it was a requirement that lead to the kingdom of God. Jesus further put it this way, the least person in the kingdom of God or Christianity is greater than John the Baptist who is greater than the old testament. That John the Baptist era before Jesus was crucified is what Jesus meant by born again. It has nothing to do with Christianity It is an inferior era to Christianity era, though it was greater than the old testament era. So, mind what you wish yourself, you are far greater than born again as a Christian today, that's why i say it is SCAM. |
MaxInDHouse:S C A M ! |
Dtruthspeaker: ![]() |
There is nothing like born again, that thing na scam |
Znation:it is an indication that the person believed in Christ before he died, therefore he is saved |
Steep:Is there any difference between tithing and giving? |
AntiChristian:will you say a key that opens many locks is also a useless key or a master key? |
Polyandry is marriage of one woman to more than one husband. For those men in support of polygamy, can you marry a woman that is already in marriage to another man? Or does the bible also in support of a woman having several husbands if you think the bible support polygamy? Just asking! |
CyberHustle:Malachi 3:9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. In that scripture, a curse is placed on the defaulters, and you say it is free will. How then tithing is free-will?? Do you even know what it means for something to be free-will? It means, you are free to choose the option of not paying without any harm or curse |
Steep:T H I E F!! O L E!!
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MaxInDHouse:so, will you say spiritual fathers have anything to do with the spirit realm or they are called spiritual fathers because they established churches. What if a woman establish church, is she then not qualified to be called spiritual mother to any man who is a member of her church? |
MaxInDHouse:ok, Have you heard about the term spiritual father? When i say Pastor Adeboye is my spiritual father what does that implies, that pastor Adeboye is the one in charge of my spirit? |
Kingsley1000:
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Onyiiobi7735:You are a thief |
ysyowel:good summary |
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