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Afamed:
Your Pandora fraud is a also a wanted crimii+ nal far away in UK

Since his last deportation, have you seen him close to UK embassy ?

Must you defend everything?

Have you no shame?

Haba!

Tinubu is like a bee 🐝.

Criminality is his honeycomb.

Therefore, he is always attracted to criminals.

I’m sure if you are around Tinubu and you don’t have criminal record he would be suspicious of you just like a smoker is rarely comfortable around non-smokers.

The courts know that they owe Nigeria and Nigerians a duty sha.

Racoon:
After using fraudulent backyard means and power of incumbency to win the senate seat, Dave Umahi will now create a electoral lacuna by vacating the senate to take up ministerial appointment?

How can you be sworn in as a senator and then go to take up a FG ministerial appointment? What is wrong with this country sef? This lawlessness have to stop.

He won’t create any lacuna, the Labour Party guy is regaining his seat. Umahi knows he lost the election that’s why he schemed to be minister.

garfield1:
Osita izunaso or Patrick ndubueze should still retain the post of deputy leader since it is zoned to apc.for ebonyi south,his brother Austin umahi should replace him though he may lose to Linus okorie...


Mynd44
Nplfmod
Lalasticlala
Obinoscopy
Seun
Seunmsg
Penguin2
Fergie001
Kahal
Donphilopus
Mrvitalis
Immaculatejoe
Casualobserver

Umahi knew he was going to lose the seat to Linus Okorie of Labour Party, that’s why he lobbied vigorously for the ministerial position.

He has a very bad case at the tribunal because he didn’t win but INEC declared him.

Same thing applies to many other APC National Assembly members from Ebonyi.

gawu1:
The issue is not number of states a candidate won but number of votes plus 25% spread.
For example:
Assuming in an election we have candidate A and candidate B and the number of states is 10.
Candidate A gets 100 votes but comes first in 3 state and is also able to secure 25% votes in the remaining state. And
Candidate B gets 90 votes, comes first in 7 states and also having 25% spread;

Here, candidate A will be declared winner because he won simple majority and has 25% votes spread despite coming first in only 3 States.
So, it's not number of states won that matters but the number votes and 25% spread.

Has anybody ever contested this? Did we ever contest this? In fact a candidate might not even win any state, as long as he has simple majority and spread, he would still be declared winner. This much is clear which is why I don’t know why you are explaining it.

If Benue and Rivers is declared for Obi as you hope it should, the rerun or runoff (whatever you call it) could still be between Tinubu and and Atiku depending on the number of votes each of the candidate is left with after the tribunal math.

The constitution said “majority of votes cast” and not “25%”. So where are you getting this your interpretation?

aswani:
No need to be sorry and yes I followed the proceedings intently. I didn't go to an Obidients YouTube channel to get fake information.

I also read the final submission which is a summary of what the petitioner is after. Maybe you should take a look yourself.

You read Obi’s written address and you didn’t see where he wrote that he won Rivers and Benue?

And by the way, who did you have in mind when you talked about getting information from YouTube?

Lol!

Look at the mockery we’ve become.

Almost everyone in the world knows Tinubu didn’t win the election but was rigged in by INEC.

The only people who have refused to accept this obvious reality are Agbado ostriches.

raskymonojendor:
You are the one opening several useless threads after Peter Obi lost the election. Tinubu is the president not Obi kerekenke Obi

You are pained, and more heartache is cooking since Obi being the loser that he is would lose again at the election tribunal.

Your proof below:

You said all these before the election.

First you said Obi won’t win a single Local Government.

Then you moved it to that he won’t win a single state.

Lastly you said he won’t get up to 1 million votes.

What happened in the end? INEC had to switch off IREV to stop Obi and rig Tinubu in.

And now, like deja vu, you are back to rehashing exact same lines.

We’ll see how it ends this time.

aswani:
Penguin2, how can they agree Peter Obi won any of those states when at no time did he present any proof or even petition the Tribunal to say he did?

Peter Obi brought paper copies of blurred results on IREV, how is that going to sway the judges to determine he won those two states?

Stop clutching at straws, Obidients were banging on about stolen mandate when Obi himself didn't bother telling his lawyers to claim he won.

Sorry, but have you ever followed the proceedings of the Tribunal even for one day?

Again? Did you read Obi’s written address to Tinubu and Shettima?

opamoses1:
What do you stand to gain from lying. Smh

How do you correct a mistake when you won't even admit you made a mistake. You all welcome IPOB and UGM into your midst with open arms. They have now turned against you and shooting ibos at random.

You should have given them the Wike treatment when you had the chance but it's too late now.

I asked you for proof of anyone killed for not sitting at home but you bringing the news of monarchs that were kidnapped by Hope Uzodimma thugs in Imo. Were they kidnapped for not sitting at home?

00FFT00:
Absolutely. This further buttresses the argument that the people who have hijacked Nigeria's rulership today, know they are illegitimate, shameless, and retrogressive, and will stop at nothing to perpetuate their chokehold on the citizens of this country.

We'll keep our eyes firmly trained on the judiciary, even if we know they are a part of the rotten system.

That’s just it.

But I think right now the best that Tinubu can get out of the Tribunal is a rerun; but this is Nigeria 🤦

Spy360:
A small correction here. The constitution says a majority in the highest number of states.

That is the one that scored above 50% in most states. So if Atiku won 12 states but has no majority votes but Peter Obi won 11states but have 2 majority votes, then it's Peter Obi not Atiku.

I think what the constitution meant by “majority votes” is outright winning and not this percentage calculations.

But let’s see how the courts would interpret it.

Spy360:
He simply said INEC miscalculated his scores in Rivers and Benue. That if well calculated according to what INEC gave as CTCs he won both state. No respondent has argued or disputed that. No one. In fact it doesn't need argument or proof. It's there. Just there.

Are you not surprised that those who never cared to follow the proceedings of the Tribunal for even a day will be making spurious claims borne out of ignorance.

Not only did Obi submit the CTC forms EC8A for Benue and Rivers, and other states, he also stated that he won Rivers and Benue in his written addresses.

So, you can’t just help but cringe when you hear things like this.

garfield1:
It's a waste of time arguing with you.but there's nothing wrong in admitting your fault and moving on

I wasn’t wrong because I didn’t insist that it was a true position or an incontrovertible fact.

I did tell you I was holding it tentatively, didn’t I?

onuman:
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Lol.
There is no level of propaganda of falsehood that bestial supporters of a drug trafficking baron for president of a country cannot go to.

Tinubu himself funded the Yoruba Nation/Oduduwa Republic agitators as Plan B if Buhari refused to hand power over to him.
Oduduwa Republic agitators waved the flags of Oduduwa Republic on the grounds of London's Chatham House in support of Tinubu while he was speaking inside the house.

Sunday Igboho who is the leader of Yoruba Nation agitators had consistently maintained that Bola Ahmed Tinubu is his mentor.

Tinubu even declared at one point in the past that he didn't believe in one Nigeria.

Even now he’s beginning to sponsor Asari Dokubo as plan B should Tribunal sack him so that they cause mayhem.

raskymonojendor:
Shut up. Ordinary Simon Ekpa has your tribe by the balls and flogging your parents everyday in Alaibo. People living in Iboland are now suffering from PTSD.

Isn’t better better than your region that were begging for mercy from Fulani Wakili who was kidnapping your people on a daily basis and forcing others into IDP camps in Benin Republic until Akeredolu grew the balls to establish Amotekun while Tinubu, your lord and master, was cowardly asking where are the cows?

Okoroawusa:
Don't worry you go soon change moniker

Never!

Even if Tinubu rules for 50 years, I will always be here with this moniker you all know, to continue to remind the world that Tinubu is a criminal, a drug lord and a mandate thief who paid Mahmoud Yakubu to rig him in while breaking all our electoral laws in the process.

Okoroawusa:
So what happens to Atiku's votes?

Meanwhile I thought you people said that Peter Obi won and that you will prove it? Why all these permutations that you guys are doing now?

What will happen to Atiku’s votes is what happens to the person who got to Semi Finals but couldn’t make it to finals. Do you ask what will to all the points or goals he has scored?

And about making permutations, that is because there are many prayers before the court: outright declaration of Obi, invalidation of the election and call for rerun and disqualification of your almighty Tinubu.

But unfortunately, your ilks have been misinterpreting what a rerun means which is why I deemed it necessary to make this clarification.

Do you understand it now?

garfield1:
Don't bring up rumours from him again

The Supreme Court quickly denied that CJN Ariwoola had a telephone conversation with Tinubu and DG of DSS after Jackson Ude reported so.

But they have devilishly kept quiet about US banning 8 more Justices of the Supreme Court as was reported by the same person.

Why?

seunmsg:
Show me where the constitution said runoff when no one meets the requirements to be retuned elected as president and I will delete this account.

2, if the court agrees that 25% in FCT is compulsory, then FCT is not treated like a state so Peter Obi’s states falls to 11 and not 12.

Again, the constitution said the second candidate will be the candidate that has the next highest votes in all the states. Atiku has the next highest votes after Tinubu in 21 states while Obi has in 16 states. Anyhow the law is interpreted, Obi will not be on the ballot if there is a second election.

What do you understand as highest votes cast in a state?

Is it scoring 25% of votes cast in a state?

Or winning simple majority in a state? That is winning the state outrightly.

Which one do you really think truly stands for highest votes cast?

garfield1:
Jackson ude says hi

I told you it was a litmus test to test his reliability, didn’t I?

Novarisammy2:
runoff and second ballot are the same thing

Lol!

Don’t mind these guys.

Sometimes I just wonder if they deliberately choose foolishness or are they foolish for real.

You explain something they didn’t know before, and instead of reading, learning and accepting the knowledge, they will start to argue that falsehood should substitute truth.

I made a post clarifying the difference between Rerun and Runoff and he began to attack it instead bringing counter facts to show that my definition is wrong; if it was.

Is that the characteristic of a first class fool?

iSense247:
Thank you for your explanation.

Penguin2, will the candidate who won one-quater of votes in most states be considered or a candidate who won most states.

I think that provision is simple and straightforward.

The first candidate to make a runoff is the candidate with simple majority.

The next is the candidate that won the most state behind the person with simple majority.

So, if in the end, the Tribunal agrees Obi won Rivers and Benue, it would mean Obi won 14 states and Tinubu won 10 states but had simple majority.

Now, if any runoff should happen it would be between Tinubu who had simple majority and Obi who won 14 states.

Ignore Wole Olanikpekun’s stupid and criminal interpretation of the constitution.

raskymonojendor:
Damage done already. Same way some people from a section of the country believed that Buhari had been replaced by Jibril El-sudani of The Republic of Sudan. These particular people were even analyzing Buhari's ears and nose.

The only damage that has been done is the only in your head.

Again, further damage is done to the Agbado camp because it exposes how low and pedestrian they can go just to spread unfounded lies. It shows they are criminals because only criminals can do this.

Sane Nigerians are watching you.

Fencists are watching you.

And the international community is watching too.

So, tell your Agbado criminals to continue.

001Lagos:
The fakeness of the picture is so obvious

Tinubu and his followers are so full of shit

Well, you know it’s fake because you are tech savvy.

The Almajiri in the north won’t know that.

Neither will those in the rural areas of Western and Eastern Nigeria know that it was a poorly photoshopped picture.

What they will see is a picture of Peter Obi and Simon Ekpa.

That’s why it is very pertinent and imperative that it is not allowed to take root.

After photoshopping Thisday Newspaper to insert what Peter Obi didn’t say as headline, their next move was to photoshop Obi into a photograph with Simon Ekpa.

Is this how ‘winners’ behave?

Peter Obi, the Labour Party’s Presidential Candidate in the 2023 General Elections, has described as fake, a photo of him and the Finland-based pro-Biafra agitator, Mr Simon Ekpa.

The Head of the Obi-Datti Media Office, Mr Diran Onifade, made this known in a statement on Thursday in Lagos.

The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) recalls that Expa had been allegedly responsible for calling for several sit-at-home orders in the South-East region, which had allegedly resulted in loss of many lives and property.

Onifade said the perpetrators of the fake photo inserted Obi’s popular supporter and rights activist, Aisha Yesufu, to further claim credibility.

He said they all grew up being educated that photos tell a thousand stories and do not tell lies as photos were usually self-evident.

According to him, yet that was long years ago and long before digital technology took the World like a storm.

Onifade said the standard narrative had changed remarkably with dubious minds always ready to deploy its creatively albeit negatively, to create what was non-existent.

He said: “The scenario is exactly what played out in the photoshopped picture of Peter Obi supposedly standing with the Finland-based irritant Biafra agitator, Simon Ekpa.

“This is all in a desperate move to drag Obi’s name into disrepute by linking him with the ugly story that Ekpa has become in Nigeria.

“For clarity, the picture was taken by Obi standing with an admirer on a Virgin Flight on Friday, July 21, 2023.

“In trying to authenticate their filthy and disgustingly dirty act, they inserted the picture of Aisha Yusuf behind them.

“The memory may be short to forget that Obi was the first to describe the sit-at-home thing as an act being engineered and bred by a criminal that the system has refused to squarely tackle.”

Onifade said the menace of this crime was becoming manifest even to attract the views of the nation’s parliament, it may be necessary to critically study the handling of this crime.

In a related development, he said some people had put out a loss leader advert, purporting Peter Obi as “providing 20GB Free Data and N5000 Airtime in celebration of his 62nd Birthday.

“This is a SCAM! Subscriber beware!!.”

Onifade said it was mind boggling that these criminal ploys were passed off as playing politics.

He said that instead of seeking the line of a final solution to the cankerworm that had embarrassingly held the region and the country down, some mischief makers who were obsessed with Peter Obi’s rising fame were concerned with linking him to Ekpa.

According to him, yet another failed attempt to dent the political Eagle whose concern is how to create a new Nigeria and reduce the poverty in the land.

He said the reasonable thing to do if this country was sincere in tackling its economic challenges was to study the views expressed by this phenomenal political leader of contemporary Nigeria instead of trolling him endlessly.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/07/peter-obi-didnt-take-pictures-with-pro-biafra-agitator-simon-ekpa-official/

seunmsg:
The part highlighted in bold is just Blablabla blu. Absolute gibberish.

There is nothing like runoff in the constitution. What we have is a second ballot/election if there is no clear winner in the first election.

Rerun and runoff are mere semantics. The election will never be cancelled so there is no need for another election or rerun as you labelled it in your own language. There is no ground whatsoever for cancelling the election.

The only ground for a second ballot/election is if the court agreed that 25% in FCT is compulsory. In that case, the second election will be between Tinubu and Atiku. Any other interpretation you’re trying to give is nonsense.

Lol!

On what grounds will the second ballot be between Tinubu and Atiku, and not Tinubu and Obi?

chatinent:
A rerun or a runoff?

My opinion? Sell the country. I need my stipend.

🤣🤣🤣

You no get joy o

wegevv:
Nicely explained but one question:

If, for example, the tribunal rules that 25% is required in FCT but dismisses all other prayers won’t they in effect be calling for a runoff?

If they agree that 25% is necessary in the FCT, what they would do is just to invalidate Tinubu’s declaration for not meeting the spread.

Depending on other rulings of the court (like if they agree that Peter Obi won Rivers and Benue), INEC would now determine the two candidates that should go into a runoff election.

Since the idea of a possible rerun of the presidential election started getting muted in the public space, the contribution and comments of a lot of people, especially here on Nairaland, has betrayed their deficient knowledge of the difference between rerun and runoff elections. That’s why I considered it necessary to make the clarification between what the two provisions mean.

What is a Rerun Election?

Rerun election means to conduct the election all over again. It means the first one was invalid and a new one should be done that should cure whatever anomaly observed in the first one.

In a rerun election, all political parties and candidates who participate in the first are allowed to contest again except any candidate disqualified by the tribunal.

Take note that this is what Atiku and Peter Obi are asking of the Tribunal in the event that neither of them is declared outright winner of the polls. They also seek the disqualification of Tinubu which would make it impossible for him to take part in a possible rerun.

What is a Runoff Election?

Straight to the point, a runoff election is conducted between two candidates. This is usually done when no candidate satisfies all the requirements necessary to be declared the outright winner after the first ballot.

According to Nigerian Constitution, when it comes to the presidential election, a runoff election should be declared between the candidate with highest number of votes cast (simple majority) but failed to get the spread, and the candidate that won the most state.

To bring the above into perspective, supposing there was to be a runoff election after the Presidential election in February, it would have been between Tinubu (who won simple majority) and either of Obi or Atiku (it would have problematic because they both won 12 states each. But I think the constitution made further provision in case of such scenario).

Now, take note that none of the petitioners are asking the Tribunal for a runoff election. This is because the Tribunal has no power to order a runoff election. What the Tribunal can do is to either return a new winner or invalidate the entire election and order a rerun with all candidates participating; except anyone is disqualified.

Only INEC has the power to determine or call for a runoff election, not the courts.

So, I hope this cures the ignorance of the people who have held erroneous understanding of what rerun means, with some going to the extent of suggesting the two candidates that would make the rerun.

Nlfpmod
Mynd44

I think this might be helpful to educate a lot of people who don’t understand the differences between these two concepts.