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Politics › Re: Tinubu Is Playing Die With The North By Nasir Aminu by Penguin2: 2:42pm On Aug 09, 2023
Angelfrost:
Absolutely none... Which is why some of us have since turned cynical about the chances of democracy actually succeeding in Nigeria, and most parts of this continent.
Instead of embracing cynicism, why not choose cautious optimism instead?

Look at the politicians in display and try to study their antecedents to verify their claims and know which of them is most likely to introduce these reforms you have identified.

If you abandon hope, you achieve nothing but end up leaving the country to be continually pillaged by her devourers.

That’s what most of us are doing; not like we don’t understand the level of rot in the system.

I don’t not see anything that would get solved if all of us were to embrace cynicism.
Politics › Re: South East Governor's Forum Appoints Sen Uche Ekwunife Its DG by Penguin2: 2:37pm On Aug 09, 2023
Solsix:
Lol, she's too strong but she's nothing compared to Obi. I think she's has learnt her lesson. Iyom was another person that her loss sweet my belle.
She was very stupid.

And I heard Obi approached her to come work with her and she refused.

I’m sure she never believed what the outcome would be.
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 2:35pm On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
They are trying their luck just like in 2019
You are thereby suggesting that you know more than them?
Politics › Re: Awo: The Best And Greatest Nigerian Political Leader Never Became President by Penguin2: 2:33pm On Aug 09, 2023
Vinnie2000:
Boss, Awolowo's Mentality is

Yoruba, FIRST
Nigerian, SECOND. sad smiley

In Reality, There is nothing wrong with that as we are all Like that.
We love our Tribe, more than our Country.

Awolowo is the Not in the CLASS of Any Nigerian Politician today!😏

He was well Schooled, had International Connections, and had Brilliant Ideas on how to move Nigerian forward.🙂

His Only Mistake, he didn't like working with the Illiterate, Parasitic North
Which Tinubu is doing now.😕
I agree with you 100% that Awolowo was probably the most cerebral of the trio of Azikiwe, Ahmadu Bello and Awolowo. His only problem, which was his greatest undoing, was his tribalistic tendencies.

I don’t think anyone having the mentality of Yoruba First, Nigeria second, is someone worth celebrating or handing Nigeria over to.
Politics › Re: Awo: The Best And Greatest Nigerian Political Leader Never Became President by Penguin2: 1:39pm On Aug 09, 2023
IbileIfe:
Charity begins at home.
He used the revenues from the export of cocoa to develop Western Nigeria, launched the first TV network in West Africa, built the Cocoa House and Western House and provided free education for his people and scholarships for studies in universities in America and Europe.

What did the Igbo political leaders achieve with palm oil?

Photos:
Cocoa House, was completed in July 1964 and commissioned in July 1965. At a height of 105 metres, it was the first skyscraper in West Africa and was, from 1965 to 1979, the tallest building in Nigeria.
It is located in Dugbe, a major commercial area in Ibadan, Oyo State, Nigeria. It was built from proceeds of agricultural commodities (e.g., Cocoa, Rubber, Timber) of the then Western State of Nigeria.
The iconic Western House is a 20-storey office complex in the Lagos Island Central Business District (CBD).
Western House is home to the Corporate Headquarters of Wemabod Limited. It is a landmark structure and the first skyscraper to be constructed in Lagos Island. The building has a total of about 13,000m2 of lettable space.
Which of these things were sited outside Yoruba land?

I just gave names of projects executed by Michael Okpara in Port Harcourt that still stands till this day.
Politics › Re: Tinubu Is Playing Die With The North By Nasir Aminu by Penguin2: 1:35pm On Aug 09, 2023
Angelfrost:
1. Completely sanitize the electoral body. Partially 'uncorrupt' that so-called independent commission by making its top leadership by general consensus across citizenry rather than via selection/appointment. The same should go for CBN and AGN positions.

2. It goes without saying that the current 1999 Constitution has to be reworked to suit a nation destined for unity and progress.

3. A successful number 2 above should pave way for the overdue "Decentralization of Government" for better statewide and regional leadership and focus.

These should be foundational for every other intended progress of this nation... The failure of the above means the nation will never make any serious progress. NEVER!!!
Which of these can you do without a president who is reform oriented and ready to set Nigeria on the right path?

Which?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 1:32pm On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
Justice agim said primary evidence are inec hardcopy and bvas not online copies.from what I am seeing,davematics wants a rerun.i am going to calculate gayam and chiroma results on irev,just give me two days..

Kaduna case is dead as ashiru filed his case late.

Dapo has counterattacked adebutu by also challenging areas where he won esp Abeokuta.

Peter mba is gone.
There is nothing on rivers and Lagos,stop this childish obsession and making poor decisions.
What do you say when BVAS accreditation report is in consonance with IREV result and only physical EC8As are mutilated?

Again what does the Electoral Act say when there’s discrepancies between physical result and IREV result? It says that IREV result will take precedence. Or you haven’t read that provision?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 1:28pm On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
There is a general rule on a case.whej you bring bulky evidence,you summarize for the court.tge court would not do it for you
And you know that rule more than the over 10 SANs in Obi’s legal team including the man who got the Osun judgment?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 12:58pm On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
Once there's overvoting,results will be cancelled.
But there’s no over voting here but mere miscalculation and ballot stuffing.

The results are correct on IREV. Whatever INEC has as its physical result is fraud.

Sule will be sacked.

Just like Uba Sani in Kaduna.

Dapo Abiodun in Ogun.

And Peter Mba in Enugu.

Rivers and Lagos are peeping in as well.
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 12:55pm On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
I recall posting several statements of judges to you on tendering without establishing.as usual,you overlooked
I did not overlook.

The case and facts are different.

Why would you assume unbehalf of the court?
Politics › Re: Tinubu Is Playing Die With The North By Nasir Aminu by Penguin2: 12:53pm On Aug 09, 2023
Angelfrost:
I will never understand why a lot of you guys on this forum are so obsessed with stereotyping and labeling...

Honestly, I am generally "Anti-Nigerian politics" which means I equally despise all top political parties and their members... I am Pro-good governance and a firm believer in visionary and people-centered leadership: things Nigeria has not witnessed in decades.

Y'all should learn to shun bigotry and sycophancy, and focus on objective thrusts of discussions.
So what do you suggest as the way forward in terms of Nigeria’s leadership?
Politics › Re: Tinubu Is Playing Die With The North By Nasir Aminu by Penguin2: 12:52pm On Aug 09, 2023
Angelfrost:
I will never understand why a lot of you guys on this forum are so obsessed with stereotyping and labeling...

Honestly, I am generally "Anti-Nigerian politics" which means I equally despise all top political parties and their members... I am Pro-good governance and a firm believer in visionary and people-centered leadership: things Nigeria has not witnessed in decades.

Y'all should learn to shun bigotry and sycophancy, and focus on objective thrusts of discussions.
Politics › Re: Almost 6 Months Later, We Still Don’t Have Official Result From INEC, Why? by Penguin2(op): 12:51pm On Aug 09, 2023
MadamExcellency:
If the INEC post the true results of the 18 candidates, the claim of 25% in most States will reduce to 20% to 24.9% thereby invalidating the results.
This is the worst election ever.

Nothing comes close to this sham.

I hope Mahmoud Yakubu doesn’t escape.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Niger Ex-rebel Launches Anti-coup Movement In First Sign Of Internal Resistance by Penguin2: 12:36pm On Aug 09, 2023
Lol!

Is that the most Tinubu can do?

Sponsor the Asari Dokubo of Niger Republic?

I hope the military fires some bullets into the brains of the idiot very soon.

Ndi ala!
Politics › Re: South East Governor's Forum Appoints Sen Uche Ekwunife Its DG by Penguin2: 12:34pm On Aug 09, 2023
AsomughaChuks05:
Governor Chukwuma Soludo effect. She will lead the Soludo reelection campaign in November 2025. Congratulations to her.
Soludo will lose his reelection woefully.

As for Ekwunife, if she likes, let her not guard her utterances.

Shebi she thought she was too grounded to be dislodged from the senate, she got served.

If she likes, let her not use her senses this time.

Ndi ala!
Politics › Re: Tinubu Is Playing Die With The North By Nasir Aminu by Penguin2: 12:30pm On Aug 09, 2023
Angelfrost:
If he invades, he has fvcked up (The North will collectively rise against him)... If he doesn't invade, he has fvcked up (He will look weak).

Mr. President is in an unenviable position/dilemma right now.

This is why he should never have been hasty to react to the whole Coup issue... He should have simply sat back and observed a bit. Life should not always be gra gra.

Same thing with some of the 'great' policies since he assumed office... So much haste, so little planning and almost zero foresight and feasibility.

Why is he always in a hurry to act and react??! Who exactly is he trying to please??! Certainly not most Nigerians.

He needs to watch it... Seriously.
Garfield1 come and hear your fellow Agbado reecho what I’ve been telling you all along.

Tinubu acts before thinking.
Politics › Re: Almost 6 Months Later, We Still Don’t Have Official Result From INEC, Why? by Penguin2(op): 12:06pm On Aug 09, 2023
Frekim:
What do you mean by official report.
Who came sixth in the 2023 presidential election?🤔
Politics › Re: Jakande Conceived Banana Island, Allocated No Plot To Self – Son by Penguin2: 12:04pm On Aug 09, 2023
Christistruth03:
Audio Broadcast is evidence

It was even on the ipob website


Awolowo and Gowon never went to Biafra during the War yet you cannot stop blaming them for it

In other words you have just cleared Awolowo and Gowon of any offence in the Biafran War because they were never at the Warfront

Politics and Facts were never your cup of Tea
Oh stop that….

Gowon and Awolowo were in positions of authority and formulated policies with direct consequences.

Was Kanu in any position of authority?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 12:01pm On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
That means result of gayam and ciroma will be reconducted and sule will win
Oh goodness lord, where are you from?

Why would the elections be reconducted instead of the person who the results favour being declared outrightly? Why?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 11:59am On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
I never said obi didn't tender inec forms,he dumped them them without referring to them in his final address.
The prof said he only analysed irev results for rivers and benue.he then contradicted himself by saying 18000 copies were blurred meanwhile the total units in benue and rivers were less than 10,000.he lied on oath and the court will certainly not attach any value to his evidence.therefore obi failed to prove that he won benue and rivers
Who are you to determine what was dumped on the court and what was not?
Politics › Re: Timi Frank To Tinubu: Release Your Chicago Varsity Credentials by Penguin2: 11:48am On Aug 09, 2023
He will not.

Because Nigerians will find out that Tinubu is a transgender.

He was a woman while in school.

And man while president.

Agbado people go explain tire, no evidence.
Politics › Almost 6 Months Later, We Still Don’t Have Official Result From INEC, Why? by Penguin2(op): 10:59am On Aug 09, 2023
The 2023 Presidential Election was held on February 25, 2023. August 25, 2023 would be 6 months since the election took place and we still don’t have official INEC breakdown of results as scored by all the 18 candidates and political parties that participated in the election.

Since when Tinubu was declared winner, what we know are the candidates who came first, second and third. Almost 6 months later, Nigerians don’t know who came fourth, fifth, sixth or last.

This is unusual. Because in all previous elections that has taken place in Nigeria, no matter how controversial, the full and official breakdown of results are usually announced and presented to the media and the public which enables the public know the position of each candidate that participated in the election and the figure they scored.

Unfortunately, nearly 6 months that the 2023 presidential election happened, INEC has not done this nor is it showing any sign of doing it. And the question is why?

How did INEC arrive at the results they declared? Where’s the result sheet?

Six months post-Presidential election, and we're still awaiting the official numbers from INEC.

How did they declare a winner without a transparent breakdown of the counted votes?

They also failed to present it in court.

The justices have no choice but to save Nigeria.
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Politics › Re: DSS Does Not Disobey Court Orders - Dr Peter Afunanya by Penguin2: 9:53am On Aug 09, 2023
Mitsurugi:
Ibo man always using himself to promote nonsense. See Festus Okoye of INEC too. Natural spin doctors.
Nwa nna you have only succeeded in telling us that the DSS abuses court process. Finish grin
That’s the only role that is usually given to them.

Sometimes I wonder if there was a collective decision among government circles to make Igbos spokespersons.

INEC
DSS
Police (until recently)
Army

There are many others. I don’t know where that came from.
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 9:40am On Aug 09, 2023
garfield1:
Obi tendered form ec8a and bvas reports from server without linking or establishing anything on them.he simply dumped them,his written address only linked irev copies..

The apex court at the end stated that pdp should not have entered any defence since third hand evidence are useless.obi has failed woefully
No sir, Obi submitted INEC certified hard copies of forms EC8A.

The only thing taken from server was the evidence of the Mathematics Professor.

Get your facts right and don’t mislead the public.
Politics › Re: Jakande Conceived Banana Island, Allocated No Plot To Self – Son by Penguin2: 9:35am On Aug 09, 2023
Christistruth03:
Below:

audio Of nnamdi kanu ordering ipob to destroy BRT Buses and lagos
49 mins kanu gives Ok to destroy brt buses
52 mins TVC is on fire
1 hour 13 mins kanu orders ipob destroy every FG building
1 hour23 mins kanu Orders ipob badagry attack every Military location in the night.
Audio again?

Can’t you do better?

Do you even know why courts from High Court to Appeal Court to Supreme Court acquitted Nnamdi Kanu? Because your Federal Government presented Nnamdi Kanu’s audio in courts as evidence that he is a terrorist. When court now asked the FG to present evidence that Kanu’s audio messages translated to whatever was going on in the Southeast, they were moping in court which was why the 3 courts set him free.

You need to understand that in law and criminal prosecution there’s what is called principle of proximity. It deals with where was the suspect when the act was committed? That’s why people plead alibi.

Can you show evidence that IPOB has been operating in Lagos before the EndSARS?

How can you allege that a group known for operating in the southeast, that is more than 400kms away from Lagos, destroyed properties in Lagos and your only evidence is audio?

Again, there’s the principle of cause and effect, that a suspect’s action or omission led to a certain crime. Can you prove, and can you show evidence that can’s audio messages led to the actual destructions in Lagos, and also that the destructions were done by IPOB?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 9:23am On Aug 09, 2023
olril17:
Apc is terrible,agreed. But u sef no too get sense,you are a brainless tribalist😎
How?

I wanna know what’s tribalistic about this post or what is brainless about so I know if I can make a change.

You know we learn every day, so how?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 9:21am On Aug 09, 2023
AndroBlaze:

This guy is becoming a real nuisance on this board, he is never tired of twisting the truth.

Even an illiterate fool knows that the final judgement on the Osun case favours APC over LP, but keep on with your deceitfulness.
How?

Did you read both Tinubu, INEC and APC’s final written address?

Three of them avoided the Osun judgment like a plague but chose rather to cite judgements as far back as 1979.

If Osun judgement favoured them, why did they not dwell on it or use it sufficiently?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 9:17am On Aug 09, 2023
MichaelSokoto:
dats why high-neck was seriously foot dragging wen asked for access to bvas even after bn paid for d process!
Bone hook dem 4 throat!
grin
Very much!

They even had to delete the presidential election data from the BVAS machines against court order after promising court that reconfiguration will not wipe data.

But what’s most intriguing is that they also cleared the data on the BVAS that was used in Abuja when the world knows that governorship election didn’t happen in Abuja.

So why did INEC also clear Abuja BVAS?
Politics › Re: Jakande Conceived Banana Island, Allocated No Plot To Self – Son by Penguin2: 11:48pm On Aug 08, 2023
Christistruth03:
There is evidence and plenty

The problem is the Ethnic sensitivity of the matter because many don't know the difference between ipob and igbos

What was ipob's business in Lagos?
You know there’s ethnic sensitivity to the matter which has limited the volume of evidence (if any) released to the public, then why do you keep dabbling into sensitive matters?

You are wiser than those you claim are hiding inexistent evidence?

And what’s your proof that IPOB was in Lagos during the EndSARS?
Politics › Re: APC’s Worst Mistake Was Challenging Osun Election Outcome - Group (vi) by Penguin2(op): 11:41pm On Aug 08, 2023
garfield1:
You mean it is working against lp and pdp? Have they forgotten that online evidences were called third hand evidence? Bvas and ec8a are primary evidence,how many did obi tender
Lol!

First, Obi tendered the form EC8As for all the polling units in all the states he’s contesting their result as declared by INEC.

Again, he submitted the BVAS accreditation data for the same polling units. Recall that in the same Osun judgment, Supreme Court said that to make for a less bulky presentation in court, the hardware BVAS machine must not be brought to court, that the accreditation data can suffice. Or haven’t read that aspect of the judgment?

Lastly, if the Supreme Court rated online evidence in third place, does that render it non admissible or reduce the place of online evidence/data in electoral dispute?
Politics › Re: Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala & President Tinubu In His Office In Aso Rock by Penguin2: 11:25pm On Aug 08, 2023
raskymonojendor:
This picture will break alot of Obidients fragile hearts grin

NOI is always happy when she is with President Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

She said "Your excellency. Great conversation!" cool


Who wouldn't. She is a very good and patriotic Nigerian unlike some other people with a dark heart that are hoping and praying for bad news all the time.

Looking at you Ibo boys penguin2, lagos001, cooly100, Kalashnikov49, Racoon e.t.c.
Continue peeping at the thread from faraway grin
See how much you lots are rejoicing because of Madam Ngozi’s visit. It shows how desperately you and your paymasters and power grabbers are seeking validation and any glimmer of hope to legitimacy.

Pele to you people!
Politics › Re: Jakande Conceived Banana Island, Allocated No Plot To Self – Son by Penguin2: 11:22pm On Aug 08, 2023
Christistruth03:
Ipob attacked the Oba Of Lagos Palace and many other Places in Lagos

Malami only confirmed it after investigation

Nnamdi Kanu was even praising those who attacked the Oba Of Lagos Palace it is in the recording
He even ordered the killing of Tinubu and Sanwo Olu

Again Is Lagos Biafra?
And now you are back to where we started.

Hope you know we won’t make progress if you keep going back and forth without maintaining a consistent thought pattern?

If IPOB attacked Oba of Lagos palace, where’s the proof?

Or is your only proof Nnamdi Kanu’s audio? Can you prove that his audio broadcast led to IPOB invading Oba’s palace and committing other heinous crimes you are accusing them of in Lagos?

If yes, where are the suspects you arrested amongst those who invaded Oba’s palace? Can you put them on record let them say where they are from? And not only saying where they are from, we have to hear them speak the language of wherever they claim to come from.

You can’t be posting pages of newspapers when we know that many of these guys are brown envelope merchants.

This is a sensitive issue. You must show concrete evidences supporting those allegations.

You are not dealing with goats please.

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