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PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 6:45pm On Jun 07, 2023
ABBkelvin:
You asked one of the most important question ever, but still the question have no answer....

Some variable are beyond us human, politics is one despite the fact we live it daily. Check through human history, it always end up a zero sum game.

I don't think human can escape/defeat politics. This is not about general election politics if you understand where I am coming from.
Politics is a game, I know.

Man is a political animal, I know.

And that’s why there’s always politics in everything man is involved in. From market unions to school classrooms to entertainment, and even the church.

But I think the brand of politics played in Nigeria is the most wicked brand of politics ever known to mankind. And that’s why I have issues with it.

And I strongly do not think that we should let things continue in this trajectory just because “it’s politics”.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 6:41pm On Jun 07, 2023
garfield1:
Apply common sense.atiku witness say obi rigged in anambra and nasarawa
Has PDP tendered INEC certified true copies from Anambra as LP is tendering for the states they are contesting?

See, Obi’s votes were viciously suppressed in the Southeast.

Organize the election one million times with soldiers in every polling unit and upload results directly to IREV immediately after election, and Obi will still do these numbers and more.

I wonder who voted Atiku in Anambra!

Your problem is that when I’m telling you facts and reason informed positions of things, you would rather let sentiments becloud your reasoning than believe me.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 4:58pm On Jun 07, 2023
ABBkelvin:
I read through the thread and this is the only thing I wish to respond to.... In life, politics come before competency. Instill this in your day to day life as from now on. Quote me anywhere on this earth, politics first before competency, and I hope you can read through the line and hopefully you don't just consider this the thought of an opposition.
I know.

If your assertion wasn’t true, a certain Buhari wouldn’t have ever become the president of this country.

But should we continue in that path?
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 2:50pm On Jun 07, 2023
fergie001:
In his demeanor, we all know he wants to, so a Soludo cannot sit idly by and not use his Office as Gov by going full throttle. He also has a close rship with the PDP Presidential Candidate as well, so it is personal as well.
If Soludo had respected himself and kept quiet. All he would have needed to do would be to deliver for Ndi Anambra and 1000 Obi couldn’t have been able to uproot him especially when he campaigns with “Nkea bu nke anyi”. Remember that Soludo was popular in his own right before the APGA platform. He simply goofed.


When Obi ran as VP-Candidate to Atiku, Obiano publicly backed Buhari. He didn't hide it, what is it about Soludo you dislike?
Obiano who is a direct beneficiary of Obi's support to be Gov went against him but you didn't show this angst then.
Are you forgetting that before the 2019 general election, Obi and Obiano were engaged in a very messy contest where Obi almost uprooted him with Obaze. So, Obiano’s actions were a little understandable because of that. That’s unlike Soludo’s faux pax that simply fell from the sky.


Umahi did a televised broadcast telling Ebonyians to vote for Tinubu. Tinubu will protect the Ebonyi agenda, don't vote for LP. (These were Umahi's words on live broadcast).

The same Umahi blocked LP from using the stadium for Obi, Am I correct?
That’s not correct. Umahi released the Ebonyi Township Stadium for Obi’s campaign.

When life gives you lemon, you turn it lemonade.

He has spoken, now let us begin to put our house in order and prepare for 2031. I don't want to go he said, she said... Can we start the talking to one another now to prevent another "nzogbu nzogbu."


Tinubu's paper has started hitting Buhari less than one week in Office. Obi also replied intelligently so......

So you can't criticise a former Gov, did Obi not heavily criticise his successor?

Unprovoked indeed?
As if Ozigbo will not take the LP ticket and then the combination of Umeh/Obi & Ors will not go all out to send Soludo packing.

You think Atiku sat in Jada and they started working for him? There must have been some understanding. Infact at some point, we saw the fight between Bala Mohammed/Sadique Abubakar & Atiku.

Soludo knows Obi wants him out of there by every means, so he started defending himself.

There are no Saints here.
How did Obiano and Obi fall out?
Obi if for nothing went against him so politically, they are not friends, what's strange about that?

See those who are not from SE have seen our weaknesses. We are too emotional with our politics. If your joining APC will give you what you want go there. If it's PDP or LP, move with the tide.
That's how it's played, in the case of ours, it's different.

I repeat that Soludo is defending himself. Asides House of Assembly, where does APGA command control?

When the Campaigns start, you will go against Soludo and you want him to fold his hands and keep quiet?
The 2026 race has started already and everyone has to be prepared.


I spent a few months in Owerri during the elections and I know many who are complaining about the LP guy that was voted in for Senate.

The complaint is that in PDP, he did nothing defected to the LP and the wave railroaded him to the red chamber again. Many are still upset he is going back.
See, I get your point. That we need to join the north and west in their brand of politics but that’s not who we are.

Remember that whatever you, and others in your school of thought, are calling emotional politics today and regarding as our weakness, served as our strength since 1979 until 2015 when the MiddleBelt who have always voted in same direction with the southeast deviated due to perceived failures of the Jonathan Administration.

The only reason you guys are thinking our brand of politics worked against us again in 2023 is just because Atiku and Obi shared their votes. Had they united, you know what the outcome would have been.

But would you blame Obi for running against PDP? No. PDP and Atiku needed to be taught a lesson that our loyalty for 24 years was not out of foolishness. I don’t care if Tinubu’s presidency is the result of that move. At least, PDP now knows that the southeast is not inconsequential.

Meanwhile, remember that had votes counted transparently, Obi could have won this election and put the idiots who called his move nzogbu nzogbu to shame.

I am totally against us becoming who we are not just so we could get accepted by the rest of Nigeria. Nobody has told the northerners to stop being who they are so that Igbos can accept them. Why do Igbos need to stop being Igbos so they get accepted by the North or West?
SportsRe: Harry Maguire Agreed To Leave Manchester United by Penguin2: 2:07pm On Jun 07, 2023
Angelfrost:
Partner?!! You mean KILL Van Dijk! tongue
😜😜😜

Please don’t insult Maguire. He’s world class😎
SportsRe: Harry Maguire Agreed To Leave Manchester United by Penguin2: 11:23am On Jun 07, 2023
obembet:
I was even thinking if we can give him another 4 yrs contact.... Remember he did well against Sevilla at Old Trafford

Nlfpmod
Hello sir/ma,

You are not a Man United fan.

Stop using that “we”, thank you 😏

Liverpool can buy him to partner Van Dijk.
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 11:12am On Jun 07, 2023
fergie001:
Are the accusations the problem now?
The accusations and Soludo’s conduct during the election is the problem here. You should know that I was not reacting to the facts of the case. Mine is just to side with anything against Soludo.

Are you from Anambra State?
No. But doesn’t limit my knowledge of the politics of the state nor render me any less stake in contributing to what happens there.

Even if he hadn't, your anger is because he didn't campaign for Peter Obi. I don't know how many times you have called out Umahi, who also spoke very well against Obi's candidature.
No, you are wrong. I’ve told you before that I am saying Soludo should have campaigned for Obi. No. He had his presidential candidate to campaign for. What I have issues with is his going full ballistic against Obi.

And about my not extending same energy against Umahi…. You know it’s one thing to talk. What you said, how you said it and your choice of words is whole lot of another kettle of fish.

Or can you remember anything Umahi said during the election? But you will definitely remember “nzogbu nzogbu politics” which has become the anthem of anti-Igbo elements. Have you seen why I have the biggest issue with Soludo. And remember that these things were totally unprovoked.

But you were also backing Wike on his phantom quest for Southern Presidency despite his coming to Anambra to throw tantrums at Obi.

What makes you think when it comes to that "nkea bu nkea anyi" will work?
I never backed Wike for anything. I stopped regarding Wike as anything the day he said he’s not Igbo after massacring people in Obigbo.

And about Soludo being sure that Anambra people will vote APGA in State level election, are you aware that until his interview with Seun of Channels where he said Obi’s investments were now worth “next to nothing”, Soludo still had the goodwill of Ndi Anambra and entire Igbos? He wouldn’t have even laboured hard for it. Everyone would have understood the assignment.

Do you think Atiku won Yobe without tacit connivance from the State Govt or even Yobe? Many still argue whether El-Rufai was not complicit in Atiku winning Kaduna.

But Obi campaigned for LP Candidates in the Assembly Election nah. Obi also should have entered a deal with him, by trading silence for silence.

Why did Osinbajo contest against his benefactor?
Why did Obi contest against the man who brought him to national limelight?

This is Politics. Leave the players and enjoy the game!

But Umahi was also vociferous against Obi nah.

Don't make anybody against Obi an enemy please. Will Uzodinma's silence let LP people vote for him in Nov?


His position felt threatened and he had to speak up.
They have a history and this is politics.
No permanent friends but interests.
Have you seen what I’m seeing? People are insinuating that Atiku couldn’t have won Yobe and Kaduna without the tacit support of the governors of the states who are members of the APC, but here you have a Soludo going full ballistic against Obi, unprovoked.

See, if that kind of Soludo’s attitude is what constitutes politics, then I’m gonna have a hard time playing politics in Nigeria. Because you can’t do that with me and get away with it. You simply can’t.

On why Imo people won’t vote Uzodimma despite not openly going against Obi, you know that Uzodimma and his problems in Imo predates anything that has to do with Obi. So, Imo case is turning on own independent of anything about Obi which you know.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:39am On Jun 07, 2023
Godwin4444:
u igbos voted for Labour Party cos u felt cheated by pdp

Labour Party is an affiliate of pdp n u know that

If peter obi n Labour Party wasn’t in d picture u igbos will still gladly vote pdp


Yes or no?
But does that not demonstrate that we not tied to PDP’s umbilical chord like you claimed earlier?

Because if your earlier assertion was to be valid, we would have voted for PDP anyways. Isn’t it?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:23am On Jun 07, 2023
Godwin4444:
dont b stupid

We are talking about national level not state level

I believe u know but just playing to d gallery, your post mentioned presidential election n I gave u a reply based on that n now u are taking it to state level

Y don’t u reply me on presidential groud
Oh really?

We are talking national election?

Did Obi contest the 2023 presidential election under PDP?🤔
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:21am On Jun 07, 2023
garfield1:
How many people did obi empowered? How many flyovers did he build? The good thing is that this is a public forum and I am exposing the overhyped obi
So, in your metrics for accessing good governance, building of flyovers, needful and useless, is a mark of good good governance?

What impact does the flyover at Nkalagu junction have on the life of a single Ebonyian?

What impact does the one at Ezzamgbo junction and other useless flyovers, have on the life of a single Ebonyian?

Umahi awarded the construction of these flyovers to his construction company at the cost of billions of naira of borrowed money whilst he impoverished Ebonyians and left them hungry through payment of mutilated salaries.

Is that your model of governance?
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 10:15am On Jun 07, 2023
chiozor:
Shut up...you cannot do anything but to type in your hidden location...you have just 1 vote..the worst thiong you will do is to butcher your kinsman and use for your egwusi soup...
Naaah!

We don’t butcher our people.

Or do we look like we open hotels only to hack our guests to death for rituals in the middle of the night?

And how many people were butchered in Enugu before Chimaroke was summarily disgraced?

Remember that in the election that brought Soludo, you people wanted to install Andy Uba by hook or by crook. You deployed nefarious elements and made Anambra a killing field. But we stood our ground and told you that Soludo will win but you doubted us and said you have bought the deputy governor and PDP senators and that they will deliver for APC. Andy Uba and APC lost woefully and we delivered Soludo.

Now, I’m telling you authoritatively, that the same solidarity we used in delivering Soludo is the same solidarity we will use to boot him out.

Let’s wait and see how much of a help you lots will be to him from Ogbomoso and Ile-Ife when the time comes.
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 10:07am On Jun 07, 2023
fergie001:
Do you know what an election is?

Obi was campaigning for LP Candidates in the Anambra Assembly, so Soludo should fold his hands and watch?

You want Soludo to have an Assembly with majority opposition party?

You want Soludo to keep quiet when Valentine Ozigbo the man he defeated is warming up to challenge him with more firepower?

Why did you not tell Adeleke to support Tinubu because Osun is his home?

Adeleke cleared all HoRs, Senate, House of Assembly (bar 1) for PDP and ensured Tinubu lost in his ancestral Osun.

Tell me the crime Soludo committed? During Obi's entrance into the Presidential race, he was given the Gov's Office to make that announcement.

You are making it an Ndigbo thing too much and you are casting a bad light on us. Atiku lost in Yobe, Tinubu lost in Osun.... Nobody has been attacking the Govs.

Obi himself campaigned for APGA Candidates against a PDP-dominated Assembly in 2011, so what exactly is Soludo's offence?
How many open letters did Adeleke write to Tinubu with barrage of accusations?

How many letters did Adamawa governor write to Atiku with barrage of accusations?

You mentioned Atiku losing Yobe, how many letters did Mai Mala Buni write against Atiku with barrage of accusations?

Since 1999, Anambra people have always voted in same direction with the rest of the Southeast at the presidential election. But when it comes to State level election, they will vote APGA.

All Soludo needed to do was keep quiet. Nobody says he must support Obi. I’m not saying that either. All we are saying is that he should have just kept his opposition to Obi’s ambition to himself and his APGA family, and you would have seen Anambra people vote for LP at the presidential election and do “Nkea Bu Nke Anyi” on the State Level election. Anambra people went against him even at state level because of his utterances against Obi.

Ask yourself, why didn’t Umahi or Uzodimma write such letter to Obi since they are in different political parties and had a more viable presidential candidate they were supporting? Why did they read the room and kept quiet?

But Soludo felt he’s the most intelligent Igbo man alive and can write letters to ridicule the only Igbo man that has come closest to the presidency since Aguiyi Ironsi and you say there’s nothing wrong in his actions?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 9:22am On Jun 07, 2023
garfield1:
I think it's time you mentioned what obi did
Is that how you want to run away from telling me the number of people Umahi empowered?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 9:20am On Jun 07, 2023
Godwin4444:
igbos keep voting pdp not candidate

Get that
Are you therefore suggesting that people like Governors Hope Uzodimma and Francis Nwifuru or APC didn’t win their elections free and fair but rigged themselves in since Igbos didn’t vote them?

Are you suggesting that Governor Soludo of APGA was not voted for by Igbos?

Are you also suggesting that Senators Umahi, Orji Uzor Kalu and other APC senators from the East were not voted for by Igbos?

Are you saying that Senator Ifeanyi Uba of YPP was not voted for by Igbos?
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 9:02am On Jun 07, 2023
chiozor:
u igbos make mouth and boost a lot and have nothing to do at the ned..goosh...keyboard warrior...collective interest indeed!
Really?

You really think we do nothing?

The last and the most recent idiot who toed Soludo’s line is Chimaroke Nnamani. We warned him to retrace his steps but you guys cheered him on and assured him we can do nothing. Where is he today?

Now, you guys have chosen Soludo as the next person you are sending into political oblivion by cheering him on while he wallows in the path of destruction. And once again, you people are assuring him we can do nothing. We will see how that goes.
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 8:56am On Jun 07, 2023
fergie001:
You are been too emotional.
What is the collective interests of Ndigbo?

How well have you held our Govs accountable?

Does someone not have the rights to vote whomever he/she thinks is best for the Country?

As for this case, it is DEAD as DODO and will not stand in anyway.

The reasons are simple:
1. This case talks about the interpretation of the Supreme Court corrected Judgement of March 24, 2023.

2. The FCT High Court suit was filed by Alh Rabiu Mustapha
& Kamaru Ogidan Lateef v. Victor Oye & INEC. APGA was not a Party to the suit and hence not bound by the Judgement.

3. This case itself has been decided by 2 Federal High Courts (in Abuja & Awka): In both judgements, the Courts affirmed Oye.

4. The Appeal Court also affirmed the judgement of the Abuja FHC.

5. Not to be caught off guard, APGA still obtained a judgement from the Anambra High Court to hold Congresses for the forthcoming Convention.

6. The subject of all these litigations, be it Oye or Edozie, were sworn-in on May 31, 2019; their 4-year tenure had expired so that invariably means no Court can do anything wrt that.
So Soludo’s actions and utterances during the election are justified?

They can be excused in the name of freedom of choice in a democracy?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 8:53am On Jun 07, 2023
garfield1:
Empowerment is basically training unemployed or unskilled people with some economic skills or vocation or giving grants,subsidies or funds to unemployed or underemployed people to set up businesses or making it easy for them to access soft loans.in a way,when you employ a hitherto unemployed or lowearning fellow in a mall,is that not something? A lot of indigenes of the state do so much undignified and strength sapping,laborious,tedious jobs in other states with low pay.umahi has reduced that to a large extent....

Concrete road technology just like other roads have their weaknesses.obi roads were inferior yo ngige roads.obi never built any flyover or any legacy project.the only visible project I saw that he did was provision of school buses to schools and it was in partnership with world bank.under him,the notorious cp nwafor reigned supreme at SARS.instead of him increasing the already depleted workforce,the stingy man was busy sacking people.by the time he left, unemployment and poverty increased.you can keep deceiving yourself but obi was an average governor.
Fantastic definition of human capital development you have up there.

Now, going by your definition, apart from employing people in the mall, which is a significant number, what else did Umahi do by your own definition?

The people that were employed in a mall were less than 100 and are receiving peasantry payments as salary which does not qualify in anyway as empowerment.

But asides the mall, can you tell me the number of Ebonyians trained in skill acquisition? What skill? And what was the location and time of their training?

How many Ebonyians, by your definition, did Umahi support with soft loans to start a business or anything?

And hey, stop mentioning the Airport because it is not yet working so nobody is earning salary as an Airport employee in Ebonyi.
PoliticsRe: Controversy Trails Obi’s Parley With LP Lawmakers Over N’assembly Leadership by Penguin2: 8:25am On Jun 07, 2023
APC and Tinubu Owambe boys saw nothing wrong in APC and Tinubu zoning and micro zoning the National Assembly leadership and even attaching names.

But same people want to say Obi was wrong to have told LP Senators-Elect and Members-Elect who to vote for.

Are you guys mad?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 7:43am On Jun 07, 2023
Difrent:
They voted Obj in 1999 AGAINST the wishes of the vast majority of Yorubas who wanted Olu falae....clearly you didn't do the yorubas any favour....is it not igbos that benefited most from Obj government?
My main grouse with igbos is the Lie that they are not supporting PO because he is igbo....what else could make almost all igbos support him?
And insultingly a Psquare, like most igbos want to be the one that will dictate who a whole tribe will put forward for leadership.....a very big insult.
We yorubas too would have voted an igboman if igbos had put forward a orji kalu or ogbonnaya Onu but not the deceptive PO you want to force down our neck
Really?

Demonstrate to me, how Orji Uzor Kalu or Ogbonnaya Onu is more competent than Peter Obi; an allusion to their past achievements would help my understanding.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 7:39am On Jun 07, 2023
garfield1:
Umahi built malls which employed several ebonyians,built intl airport,built housing project for workers,built nursing and medical schools to train ebonyians,built standard markets,revamped nkalagu,invested massively in education,employed 10,000 and empowered 5000...

Anambra is easy to govern,with a small landmass and small public service dominated by women.most of the people are into the private sectors including govt workers.unemployment and poverty was low before obi came but he increased it.all he needed to do was to increase infrastructure,take care of workers,employ more workers and increase,bring more investors but instead he maltreated workers,doctors went on strike,neglected infrastructure and instead brought a brewery he had stakes in and invested there.what is the use of saving 72 billion for a successor that may waste it? If he was so good a manager,why didn't he invest it wisely or pump it into infrastructure?

Do you know that the concrete road technology is fantastic? A lot of ebonyi engineers are being trained in the technology.ebonyi used to be so backward in education but now they are catching up.umahi did what akpabio did in akwa ibom- and duke on crs,he exposed ebonyi to the world.ebonyi that was a thing of mockery in the se is now the cornerstone
Wait, so you count someone who was employed in a mall or Airport, and whose salary may not be more than 30k as being empowered? Is that what you understand as empowerment?

Again you claimed Umahi empowered 5000 Ebonyians and I wanna ask when and how, and with how much? Again I really wanna know what you understand as empowerment.

Lastly on your concrete road, this picture below explains all I wanna say about concrete roads. And this is not the first. Similar things like this litter the entire state where concrete was used but this is the only one captured on camera. And just a little heads up, the guy that posted that picture is an APC supporter, a Nwifuru supporter and a Tinubu supporter. You can clear your doubt by visiting his wall.

PoliticsRe: Lagos State Presidential Election Result Before It Was Manipulated (picture) by Penguin2(op): 7:22am On Jun 07, 2023
Freighthost:
amen n amen
I claim this one

I use bolt 12k today for plc I can go with my car for 2500 fuel
D traffic was hell on top 490 per litre

D rain today bolt jus suffer me to n fro
Sorry bro.

Let’s pray this doesn’t last longer than necessary.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 7:18am On Jun 07, 2023
Difrent:
IT'S because they were lying that they were not supporting peter Obi because he is an igboman. That is the biggest lie of the 2023 election because more than 95% igbos support Obi.

Then you insult abuse curse intimidate and blackmail other people for making their own choices..

Their insistence that everybody supports Obi clearly shows them as tribalists....why force your candidate on others instead of convincing them.....won't work anywhere
If Igbos support for Obi in 2023 is because he’s Igbo, what informed Igbos’ support for Obasanjo in 1999 and 2003?
PoliticsRe: Court Sacks Ezeokenwa As APGA Chairman, Voids Victor Oye's Actions by Penguin2: 7:06am On Jun 07, 2023
Soludo will be taught a bitter lesson.

Soludo will be made to understand that he’s a small boy in Igboland.

That he made the greatest mistake of his entire existence the day he chose to go against the collective interest of Ndigbo.

The battle line is drawn. Let’s see how far he can go in this fight.

Onye ala!
PoliticsRe: Islamization Agenda: APC Deceived CAN With Muslim/muslim Ticket - El-rufai by Penguin2: 7:00am On Jun 07, 2023
Elrufai is pained that Tinubu did not give him any 3 of the most powerful positions in a presidential government.

He seriously wanted to be SGF but Tinubu knows who Elrufai is and would never bring such snake close to the engine room of his government.

In the alternative, Elrufai hoped he would be NSA, he lobbied for it, but Tinubu would, once again, not be deceived.

That’s why he’s talking the trash he’s talking.

That Kaduna short man devil is one character that should never be allowed into the presidency of Nigeria if this country doesn’t wanna go up in flames.
PoliticsRe: @Egi_Nupe_ Apologized To David Hundeyin For Calling Him “Cut-And-Join”. by Penguin2: 6:37am On Jun 07, 2023
Tor!

It’s obvious the Egi Nupe of a guy is not an Agbado. Or if he is, then he is like one in a billion who would apologize when it’s proven he’s wrong.

The typical Agbado never apologizes. Even when you prove it to him that he is swimming in a big ocean of ignorance, an Agbado would rather drown than accept he was wrong.

When David broke the news of Tinubu’s drug dealings, Agbado swarm of bees flocked his page and called him names whilst denying Tinubu’s name was ever mentioned in any US court. Some of them claimed Tinubu just “mistakenly” lived with drug lords. But that story turned out true but Agbado people never apologized.

Again, David broke the news of Tinubu’s Guinean citizenship. Agbado boys started attacking him again and said that what he posted was a photoshop. That story later turned out true. But rather apologize, Agbado Owambe boys started claiming that one can be issued the passport of a country without being a citizen of that country.

The truth is that David Hundeyin is a blessing to our generation. And when Obi finally recovers his mandate in court, David will play a prominent role in the new Nigeria we are trying to build.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 11:31pm On Jun 06, 2023
garfield1:
An average ebonyian hates him because of his detection to apc and his anti Biafra stance but no one can fault his performance.
No country develops by focusing on consumption and paying of salaries alone.you develop by focusing on rdr,science and tech,investing on infrastructure and developing human resources.all those amenities are futuristic and long term.it attracts people and investors to ebonyi,put them on the world map.in the nearest future,all those flyovers will solve traffic issues.thst is pro active governance.you don't wait till there is congestion and over population before building infrastructure.if umahi continues paying salaries alone,ebonyi will remain backwards.he has focused on infrastructure and human devt,nwifuru can attract investors,focus on rdr which will boost revenue to help increase salaries.what obi was doing was tokenism,paying salaries and other emoluments,doing few projects here and there and saving money that was wasted by his successors.that wasn't what anambra needed.
So, in your book of governance, you would owe or reduce workers salaries if you get into place of authority? You would let those who are alive today suffer because you are building futuristic projects that has no direct impact on their lives?

And can you name Umahi’s Human Capital Development projects or initiatives that you know? Because you have mentioned that human capital development a lot.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 11:06pm On Jun 06, 2023
benuejosh:
Brother Bernard… (anticipating a fall)

While Brother Bernad falls down which is a comic relief, permit me to say that Igbos know next to nothing about politics. They play politics with sentiments and emotions, they play politics with hatred and envy, they’re not united and that’s why they’re never at the front burner of National politics in this country. The government at the top involve them in politics at the National level and give them appointments simply because they’re Nigerians and there’s need to carry them along. Which is good.

A typical Igbo man will put money in front first before considering anything else. Imagine the igbo people kidnapping a sitting governor inside his office. They sit at their comfort zone and want everything handed over to them. It is not done like that. For how long did Tinubu start his plans to become the president? It took him years. More than 20years. That’s how it works.

I feel there’s need for my Igbo brothers and sisters to start Planning now. Because after Tinubu comes down as president after 8years, the south east guys will take over. But if they fail in their attempt to come together, then they will fail again and the position will return back to the North.
Igbos are not united yet they keep voting in one direction?

Define unity 🧐
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 11:00pm On Jun 06, 2023
garfield1:
Obi is average,he was never fantastic.umahi on the other hand is fantastic,chime was fantastic.obi is overhyped.he brought an average obiano and when he tried to bring an average val ozigbo and obaze,he was disgraced
Of course I’m not expecting you to accept that Obi can even impregnate his wife😏.

But have you gone to Ebonyi to find out what an average Ebonyian thinks of Umahi?

You think good governance is about building unnecessary flyovers and useless airport that only about 1% of Ebonyi people can afford to use while paying workers mutilated salaries?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:38pm On Jun 06, 2023
garfield1:
Why did anambra not give him bloc votes in 2010
It was because the victims of his reforms campaigned vigorously against him. Those who wanted the old order wanted him out.

But by the end of his second term Anambra people had fallen deeply in love with him after the result of his reforms started manifesting.

That’s why till today, Anambra has not stopped singing Obi’s praise and rates no one above him. Or do you think Anambra are fools that don’t know who gave them good governance or do you think Obi cast a spell on them that they still venerate him till today?
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:29pm On Jun 06, 2023
Frank688915:
No, they feel being cheated by pdp, and they don't have other choice than to support obi. Normally Igbo can never voted apc even if they choose igbo candidate, reason is because igbo and pdp are 5&6, if obi was not in the ballot, they will still vote massively for pdp.
If your claim that Southeast people and PDP is 5&5, then how do you explain how Obi won election in Anambra under APGA in 2003?🤔
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:11pm On Jun 06, 2023
Ofunaofu:
The fact is that the Igbos are the most detribalised tribe in Nigeria


The Igbos are in every nooks and crannies of this country. Infact, there is this saying that any where you go and you don't find an Igbo man don't stay.

From the voting pattern since 1999, the Igbos have been voting candidates of other ethnic groups even when the Igbos are on the ballot as we observed in 2003.

the 2023 election was very unique. Unique in the sense that, it is the first time the Igbos wholeheartedly voted an Igbo man. They did not vote the Igbo man because he is Igbo but because he was the most qualified amongst all the presidential candidates

The Peter Obi candidacy wasn't an Igbo affair, it was a Pan Nigeria affair, the Igbos only keyed in because of their Pan Nigeria disposition
The question now is, how do we make Tinubu Owambe boys understand this thing you have written in simple English like this?

You can see they are avoiding this thread like plague because they have no response to the incontrovertible facts I’ve laid bare here.
PoliticsRe: Southeast Voting Pattern Since 1999 (picture) by Penguin2(op): 10:04pm On Jun 06, 2023
Frank688915:
Politics is a game, in soccer once your opponent know you're a one way player, forget you're doom. same applies to politics, SE always go one way in politics by voting for one party, Taking SW for instance, Lp won Lagos state, PDP won Osun state, Apc won remaining states, that's the beauty of playing politics in a safer way.
But do you now agree that Southeast voting pattern in the last election was not because Obi is Igbo but because he satisfied what other candidates they have voted in the past satisfied?

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