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ItooWorWor:
A suppose witness that knows nothing about BVAS

Lol!

And who told you he was there to talk about BVAS?

I know your heart is panting, hold your breathe. Those who will talk on BVAS are coming.

fergie001:
I lost my phone and I am just getting back my numbers. That's where my P started.

How many Govs can reply text messages from common citizens, esp those they have never met before? I will make calls to get D_ve's no for you, just send him a text but this below will be faster.
I will tell you a secret, during Christmas/Holidays go to the Village, trace any one of them esp your Senator/HoR member. We dey abuse Ebonyi legislators, say Dem no be Igbo, they are the wisest. Just message and go there..... You will see, quote me on that.

My own ..... has never replied any of my 7 text messages. I don't have his time, we have sacked him from the red chamber

Lol!

Thank you.

I’m going to try the Christmas visitation tactics.

walex2:
peter obi is ready to play a video of INEC chairman saying result is going to be displayed on IREV? ALL THOSE THINGS DOESN'T COUNT AS NOTHING, WHAT COUNTS IS YOU PROVING YOU WON THE ELECTION BY PRESENTING ORIGINAL SHEET OF THE RESULTS. EVEN WHAT IS ON IREV, TINUBU STILL WON

Really?

So you think Mahmoud’s recorded statements on what the guidelines of the election will be, which he later failed to adhere to, will not matter in court?

I hope you are not so enmeshed in the wrong way of life that you think people can just get away with fraud and lies and deception?

Nvestor02:
Lol, this is nothing but wasted effort.

Peter obi is so desperate to lead Nigeria. I always know that this man has a hidden agenda.

Is by force to rule Nigeria? Nobody steal his manHOOD.... En no even get manhood in the first place.

Agent of darkeness, no wonder he always wear black cloths every time.

Why are you agitated?

Allow the courts to determine that Tinubu didn’t steal Obi’s mandate.

And asking if it’s by force to rule Nigeria should be better addressed to Tinubu who was rejected by Nigerians but he had to force himself on Nigerians by getting INEC to announce him fraudulently.

You guys said Obi didn’t stand a chance during the campaigns. When the elections came and you saw that Obi was going to trash you, you resorted to switching off the IREV to stop Obi.

Now, you have resumed your usual chorus, that nothing will come from the courts. I hope you guys don’t assassinate judges to stop Obi this time.

Babaibe:
Answer now, Tinubu won, Obi was announced.Who did the magic. Thief Peter Gregory Obi.

INEC did.

Cuz we wouldn’t be having this conversation had they simply obeyed their guideline and transmitted results directly from polling units in REAL TIME.

Would we?

garfield1:
Obi might not have rigged and would still have won but lp candidates like tony nwoye,Linus okorie, Darlington nwokocha,ameobi ogah,ezenwa onyewuchi,pascal obi etc rigged for him.or are you telling me that those defectors from pdapc repented on joining lp? Go back to 2010 election in anambra,obi raised alarm over rigging but turned around to praise the elections once he started leading.is it not same obi that masterminded 2015 rigging of se in 2015?

Why would they rig when they people were going to vote Obi anyways?

Do you really think that with the realities of the last election, that somebody in Anambra would wanna vote Atiku or Tinubu over Obi?

fergie001:
Well I get it every now and then right from my Uni days. So even till I now I don't enter political discussions when I travel for personal reasons.

We have to stop looking backwards and start looking what's in front. i.e.to fully get into the political process... Until 2023, the SE was never really into what happens on election day! Now the sensitization is here thanks to Obi.

Whenever you say idealogy, I often wonder whether it only affects the citizens and not the leaders. You have to agree with me that we have some of the worst of them all. If you have had the opportunity of meeting some of our Govs, Ministers (was with one 2 months ago), National legislators you will get more angry than I am.


I totally and wholesomely disagree.

You have had good leaders that have brought the FG to assist you guys. If I tell you how employments go for Ebonyi citizens you will marvel. Do you know how many Roy threw into .... just late last year? Do you know how many Igariwey threw into ...., Amongst Ebonyi NASS legislators, they brag on how many they have thrown into one FG agency or so. Hahaha! I mean numbers and figures...... I knew what Ogbuoji told me when I met him years ago, he vomitted for me, I hated my State NASS members the more, my brother leave am.

No S/E State have had the privilege Ebonyi have in the last decade, except maybe Imo but it doesn't show for reasons I won't name here. I agree you guys have had good leaders that firstly make sure you people can defend yourselves. Una dey claim ELDS dey collect everything. In the next few years, you will see what your leaders have been building, I know for sure.

I will say something that might upset many, there are many Nigerians (outside the SEners) who do not want an Igbo to be President. You interrogate many and you see it, you discuss with people and you feel it. OUK said this and people were abusing him, but it's a fact. I don't want to delve into the reasons because some are mundane.

It will take a MIRACLE, a big ONE at that for any SEner to win the Presidency by election. Infact Obi had the love for some reasons:

1. Many wanted something outside the old guard (Atiku/Tinubu)
2. The religion factor.
3. The agitation for power shift to the SE.
4. His performance as Gov

You will agree with me that the first 3 were more or less bigger factors that played out.

When you know this reality so for how long will you continue to stand aside and let them bring it to you. If by next election, the factors above don't play out what happens. Democracy is painful, it is a game of numbers where the minority will have their say and the majority will have their way.

in 2011, Tinubu backed Jonathan despite been in another Party, there was a reason he did that. We have to start aligning, if you stand alone, your leg go dey pain you.

Nobody is saying go on your knees to the FG but we are saying when you get to Abuja, let them know we need this and that.


This is where I like the conversation. That's why I said I cannot villify Obi for contesting. He has got to be a man someday, and yes he is now a Man no longer a boy. He can enter agreements and negotiate, I agree.

That has been my point all along, ALIGNMENT and FLEXIBILITY.

Most importantly, our Govs, businessmen, legislators who go to Abuja should know they are the albatross. I don't fancy the idea of everyone running to Lagos and Abuja, that's what those against SE leadership wants. Go to Abuja and fight for what should come to SE. Don't leave your region desolated and come over there to develop others thereby weakening yours.

We must move with others.

I must acknowledge that we have had one of the most intellectually engaging and fruitful discussions so far on this platform and I like it.

I think the job is cut out for us the upcoming Southeast guys; to build on the strengths of our fathers and avoid their mistakes.

But lastly, are you sure I will not send my CV to you like this make you help fix me for one place for Abuja because it’s obvious your legs are longer than River Niger in this country? I’m not joking, I’m serious.

The Labour Party legal team storms court with a HD TV as a Channels TV staff is billed to testify in court.

Like someone said, by the time Peter Obi is done in court, the judiciary would have to subject itself to clear ridicule in other to retain Tinubu on seat.

Watching and waiting!

The LP legal team just set up a presentation monitor to play a recording of Mahmood Yakubu’s speech for the judges.

https://twitter.com/General_Oluchi/status/1667171783277944838?t=JhoucNgsrhgNGAHO4ocWUg&s=19

The Witness, Lucky Isawode , works with Channels Tv as a senior reporter and editor

He was served subpoena on 30th May and 6th June , 2023.

All Respondents have NO OBJECTIONS to the Subpoena!

https://twitter.com/MissPearls/status/1667187582520942598?t=gQIKlRn_bDQDAS0xRk5tfg&s=19

garfield1:
If votes are to be deducted or cancelled,that of anambra won't be spared.the summary is that obi may not have rigged but those around him,the local candidates and agents who also mainly came from apc and pdp plus overzealous fans rigged for him making him culpable.

Garfield, I’ve told you this one thousand times but I want to repeat it…

Obi didn’t need to rig in the Southeast to win in any state in the Southeast. In fact, his votes were systematically suppressed.

Conduct the election one million times and Obi will win higher votes each time.

garfield1:
I made no assumptions bros.you forget the video of that anambra man that voted apc and was booed? 5000 votes is same thing as zero.if apc want to manipulate,is it 5000 they will get? Why will apc force him to sign such result? In 2019,they tried to do same thing thing at collation but ngige resisted it.with ngige out of the way,apc had no resistor.this same nwobu and one other man on ait during campaigns stated that those that were anti obi were being threatened in the east and they had to flee.my brother,leave this matter.you have no defence

In all these, you still can’t show proof that that man mentioned Obi or LP in court yesterday.

That’s what we are talking about. Don’t digress.

Bovis:
I am incredibly insane

Oh! I didn’t know.

Try and find help soonest, sir.

GODPUNISHALABI:
What will the courts do with this whole magnitude of evidences,will it ridicule itself?

Exactly what the whole of Nigerians and the world is waiting for my dear.

We know they are going to trying to find a way to retain Tinubu, we just want to see how they will ridicule themselves doing it.

garfield1:
The fg put up a rebuttal that tinubu didn't mean immediate removal of subsidy but we all knew he said subsidy is gone...I followed the live proceedings in court everyday,right now I am following the live pdp proceedings and will follow that of lp by 2pm.tjat pdp rebuttal is just a watered down summary.the exact words he used were magic,collation,forced to sign which implicates labour not apc.
The pdp intention was against apc but unfortunately it hit lp as it was going to since obi won anambra massively and apc failed woefully.if lp bring evidence about adamawa targeting apc,there is no way pdp would not be affected.

You are making assumptions.

Have you asked yourself how APC got their 5k votes?

Because maybe nobody actually voted APC at all in Anambra or anywhere in the Southeast but APC used force to allocate some figures to themselves, no matter how small, just so they don’t appear not to have presence in the southeast at all.

Or you think that’s an impossibility?

Good one from the judges. INEC and Tinubu lawyers should start stating why INEC will certify a document, and they will still come to court to object to the presentation of same document as evidence.

God willing, their justices will do justice based on the merits of the case and not based on any technicalities that the Tinubu and INEC lawyers might be preparing to ambush the court with.

On Friday, the presidential election petitions tribunal cautioned Akin Olujimi, President Bola Tinubu’s lawyer, against persistent unsubstantial objections.

Mr Olujimi opposed presenting an INEC-issued appointment letter to a presiding officer who participated in the February 25 presidential election without immediately stating his reasons for the objection, telling the court it would be included in his team’s final address.

The presiding justice of the tribunal, Haruna Tsammani, cautioned Mr Olujimi against repeated objections without disclosing the basis which has become a major feature of the respondents’ appearance.

According to the lead judge, the move could complicate the determination of issues by the tribunal as it will be unclear whether the objection was against the evidence or the admissibility of the evidence.

https://gazettengr.com/tribunal-slams-tinubus-lawyers-for-using-frivolous-tactics-to-manipulate-proceedings/

garfield1:
You mean you didn't even read his full testimony? There's no way out for obi.

Can you stop that?

I just posted a rebuttal from his party stating that he never said any of the things the media tried to force into his mouth and you are asking if I didn’t read his full statement.

It is you, who are insisting on things against his party’s public clarification, that needs to answer those questions.

Did you hear him say the things you are claiming he said in court?

fergie001:
See whenever I talk people say I am anti-East. As a ruling Party, what did we gain? Under Jonathan & OBJ where the SE held sway in very important positions, what did we do with them, I can mention names.
As an opposition, what are we gaining?
I am very sure you are not in the East, maybe Lagos or Abuja so it is a region in absolute neglect by the FG. I was born and raised in Lag, my parents were born here but I spend weeks in the SE every year and anyone who tells you we don't need the FG's input is a liar.

Sorry, I was banned by a madafaking anti-bot.

But I think I see why you reason and hold the line of thinking you hold sometimes. I think your parents and yourself being born in Lagos has kind alienated you, to an extent, from the mentality of the Igbos. And that’s why most Igbos that you relate with, who don’t share your kind of background, always think you are anti-Igbo. I am tempted to think in same way too if not that I try to understand that you are only proposing what you believe would work for Igbos.

But that’s Lagos/Yoruba kind of politics. But I think it makes sense to you because you grew up witnessing that brand of politics. But that has been the Yoruba kind of politics since the 50s while Igbos has played their own kind of politics since Pre-independence as well. So, it makes no sense that because Yoruba’s brand of politics just worked for them in 3 election cycle, albeit criminally, therefore the Igbos should stop being who they are. If you say this to 200 Igbos, you will get my kind of response, I bet you.

As an Ebonyi man, it is easy for you to say. in the last 10 years, there is no State that has benefitted from the FG in the SE than your State, in terms of manpower, jobs, Civil Service, FG institutions, name it. If the Uburu man who was Science & Tech Minister was half like Umahi or Anyim, we will be saying something else.

Ironically, what has helped Ebonyi is not Federal Government patronage but because we have been lucky with leadership since 1999. From Egwu to Elechi to Umahi, these guys have been intentional about trying to erase the erroneous views the rest Igbos hold against us, and try to put the state on the map. Because since 1999, the only tangible thing I can recall FG doing for us is the reconstruction of Enugu-Abakaliki Expressway and the siting of Alex Ekwueme Federal University in Ndufu Alike, Ikwo. Any other thing you might wanna talk about are quite ignoble.

With that said, I’ve also spent considerable part of my life in Enugu. In fact, I moved to Lagos from Enugu. So, I am quite informed about whatever I tell you; I rarely speak from an emotional place.

What I’m saying is that all states of the Southeast needs a Federal government intervention but that doesn’t mean we should stop being who we are just to get accepted.

Besides, are you away that during the PDP era, a lot of Federal Government projects were awarded in the Southeast but the thieves who call themselves our politicians shared the funds meant for the projects amongst themselves?

Go to other States, go to Abia, then anyone who tells you they don't need FG presence there should be stoned.

Now to the SW, are we doing what they did to survive in opposition? They merged with the Northern strength of CPC/ANPP and survived, yet you want us now to go it alone, it doesn't work that way.

There was no pathway to win and I said this many times. Not him, not Atiku. APC didn't lose their votes whilst the other blocs were sharing theirs.

There was no political or mathematical way for any of them to win. You don't need a guru to let you know that.

There is no pathway for neither Atiku nor Obi to win. I saw what they were filing in Court and I know that the elections were not perfect but it's not the worst we have seen.
Nothing will come out from the tribunal. I have repeatedly said this!


Politics is now realism and not idealogical. Who are those playing the idealogical politics?

When did it start? Nobody can win in isolation, until we merge or join others to benefit, we will remain a lone ranger. We will see what this fresh people have in stock for us, hopefully there will be some light.

See, whatever you think the Southwest did in opposition to survive, that’s what Obi is doing now.

I remember in your last comment you said the Southeast needs to fight for power. If what Obi is doing is not fighting, I wonder what it is.

Before Tinubu considered an alliance with Buhari, Buhari failed 3 times but his contests showed that he had consistent loyal supporters/voters of 12million voters. That was what Tinubu knew that if he tapped into it, they would have victory.

Tinubu on his own side, schemed his way and conquered, or almost conquered, the Southwest. So he was sure of what he was bringing to the table.

Tinubu now went to the table with Buhari to negotiate, and not beg. Their union produced an APC led government.

Obi, by his participation in the 2023 presidential election, has demonstrated his popularity. He came away from the contest with 6million votes “without structure” after just about 8 months in a new political party. We can argue that he did more than that number but that’s for the courts to determine.

Now, since the end of the election, have you heard Kwankwaso denigrate Obi again? Have you seen anybody say “there’s no polling unit on the social media” or any of those their jargons again? No.

People who underrated Obi have all gotten the memo and reality silenced them.

Now, if the courts allow Tinubu’s victory to stand, by next election, the people who didn’t want to have a deal with Obi would fall over themselves to get the deal done so they would present a united front against APC.

I am not saying that would defeat Tinubu, but Obi would no longer have to go to the table with any northerner to go and beg, no, he would now sit on the table with them to negotiate because they have seen what he can bring to the table.

So, do you still think that your position is preferable?

garfield1:
Who forced him to sign results if not lp? An agent at abia stated that apc results were changed

Did he say that in court?

garfield1:
Looking at the evidence self,none will stick.you saw how all the court cases against him ended.
Firstly obi cannot prove he won without recount or biometrics or bvas.
Secondly,that drug case is dead just like the double nomination.whether fine,conviction or whatever,it must be 10 years.again,it must be registered in Nigeria so that side is dead as dodo....
The only side that obi can succeed partially is cancelling some units in apc and pdp territories and ordering a rerun which ofcourse he will still lose.

The part of the constitution that talked about dishonesty didn’t state any timeline as expiry date for a dishonest act nor did it limit the jurisdiction to Nigeria or Nigerian courts.

So, because somebody was charged for murder in the US but found a way to run away from US and came back to Nigeria, he’s now a saint since he wasn’t charged in a Nigerian Court?

garfield1:
There was no misrepresentation.he said there was magic at the collation centre and that he was forced to sign the results.so who forced him? Apc or lp

And because he said there was magic, you concluded the magic was perpetrated by LP?

garfield1:
He unfortunately indicted lp and Peter obi

He didn’t indict anybody.

It’s Agbado CORNpromised media that misrepresented him like you people misrepresented PEPC’s “10 minutes break” as though the court had thrown out Peter Obi’s case.

When are you people ever going to stop fake news?

Yesterday, the media was awash with a misleading report that the PDP witness at the Presidential Petition Court claimed that the Presidential Candidate of the Labour Party in the just concluded election, Peter Obi, rigged the election in the area where he monitored the election.

Well, the man himself has come out to clarify what he said in court and to state that he never accused Peter Obi of rigging the election as reported, mischievously, by some section of the media. His party, the PDP, has also issued a statement to the effect that their witness in court never said that Obi rigged election.

This puts paid to the allegations of some opponents of Peter Obi who accuse him of rigging in the Southeast but has refused to contest same in court. You wonder why they are not doing that but their supporters will not stop reinforcing falsehood.

THE Anambra State chairman of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, who is a star witness in the ongoing Presidential Election Petition Tribunal, Chief Ndubisi Nwobu, has faulted reports that he told the tribunal that the presidential candidate of the Labour Party, LP, Mr Peter Obi rigged the February 25 presidential election in Anambra State, saying his statement was twisted to divert attention.

Nwobu testified for PDP and Atiku on Wednesday.

Reacting through the state deputy director in charge of media and publicity of the Atiku/Okowa Presidential Campaign Committee, Uloka Chibuike, the PDP chairman said the case filed by his party at the tribunal was against the APC and INEC, adding that it has nothing to do with LP or Peter Obi.

Thursday, June 8, 2023

Press Statement

Misrepresentation of Chief Ndubisi Nwobu Tribunal Witness Statement

The attention of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) and Atiku/Okowa Presidential Campaign Committee in Anambra State has been drawn to a publication in the public space wherein the purveyors of fake news alleged that Chief Ndubisi Nwobu claimed that Peter Obi rigged the presidential election in Anambra State at the ongoing Presidential Election Petition Court.
This is not only falsehood, wickedness, and devilishness, but also a deliberate attempt by a few innuendos to discredit and blackmail Chief Nwobu's person.

We wish to state unequivocally and for the record that the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) did not file a petition against the Labour Party, nor did the PDP name the Labour Party as a respondent in her suits at the ongoing Presidential Election Petition Court; rather, our petitions are against the All Progressives Congress Party (APC) and the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC).

Chief Ndubisi Nwobu was at the Tribunal on the 7th day of June, 2023, as the 11th witness of HE, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar, GCON, and the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), to testify against INEC's refusal to adhere to its own election guidelines, which state that polling unit results are to be electronically transmitted with the Bimodal Voter Accreditation System (BVAS) directly and in real-time to the IREV portal.

Chief Ndubisi Nwobu did not, by any means or disguise, state that Peter Obi, the presidential candidate of the Labour Party, 'rigged' the presidential election in Anambra State or anywhere else.

The Tribunal went further to ask Chief Nwobu who won the election in Anambra State; he responded explicitly that the Labour Party won the presidential election in the state and that his party is not in court with the Labour Party but with INEC, having reneged on her own guidelines.

While we call on unsuspecting members of the public to kindly disregard the fake news that Chief Ndubisi Nwobu accused Peter Obi of rigging the presidential elections in Anambra State, we also wish to warn online bloggers against patronizing stories with sensational headlines without proper investigations, as expected by journalists and all news merchants.

The PDPand Atiku Abubakar, GCON, its presidential candidate, are determined to present all evidence against INEC and the All Progressives Congress Party to convince the Presidential Election Petition Court that the mandate willingly given to Atiku Abubakar by the majority of Nigerians was wrongly appropriated and that such matters must be addressed to retrieve the mandate from the APC.

Those wishing to divert attention, frame and defame innocent individuals should desist or face the consequences of their actions.

PS: Attached documents are the statement on oath of Chief Ndubisi Nwobu as a witness for Atiku Abubakar and the PDP at the Tribunal.

Uloka Chibuike
Deputy Director Media and Publicity,
Atiku/Okowa Presidential Campaign Committee Anambra State.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/06/i-didnt-say-peter-obi-rigged-election-anambra-pdp-chairman/

One of the greatest shocks I’ve gotten in my life…

And one of the greatest revelations of the 2023 general elections, is that Asari Dokubo is brainless fat pig with no morals, no philosophy and no shame.

Another like it, is the revelation that Sowore is a Tinubu boy.

A lot of things we didn’t know that we know now. Thanks to Peter Obi for daring the establishment.

sonature1:
Stop this SENSELESS whataboutism!

Address the issue he raised!

Don't tell him what to focus on.

Every Nigerian has the right to discuss anything and probe anything across the country!

This whataboutism is what got this country into this mess it has become!

Can you stop it?

Did Otti lie?

The writer of the piece clearly stated that before Otti, he has been hearing it that Abia Govt House is a rented property.

Otti only came and gave life to that rumour which is why he wrote to seek clarifications.

How did Otti lie?

If Tinubu withdraws support from Abass, it would be so that Elrufai’s humiliation will be complete.

Having not picked him as SGF or CoS, the two positions Elrufai coveted, it would be suicidal to allow his man, Abass, take charge of the House of Rep.

Na Tinubu go destroy Elrufai las las.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Who could ever know that Shehu Sanni is this envious of El-Rufai.

Why won’t he?

Elrufai was vindictive against him too.

So, it’s his turn to laugh.

garfield1:
That is why I said that type of suppression cannot be litigated.i though you said obi got 3 mil and it was reduced.for obi to win nasarawa,fct,plateau etc shows there was little rigging.on a normal,obi won't win outside se...

I must remind you again that the courts usually twist ruling to favour the incumbents.in 2007,buhari proved widespread rigging.infact,the judges directed him on what to do and in the end after following their directions,they mocked him.
In 2019, commonsensically buhari was supposed to submit his result or certificate to inec but the court said it was not mandatory.the courts found that ayade,abiodun and lalong were guilty of forging certificates but they twisted the laws to suit them.tinubu just like wike is heavily connected to the judiciary.he started the links since the acn days.perjaps,this is where he met wike.
Again,the northern establishment will always prefer tinubu they know to an erratic se/obi they can't control at least to compensate for the abiola saga

Compensate for Abiola saga after Obasanjo’s 8 years?

And yes, I agree that the north will always prefer a Tinubu to an erratic Obi because they are afraid of the kind of reforms that Obi would introduce if he becomes president.

But let’s see how much the northern establishment and Wike and Tinubu’s links in the judiciary will help them.

I want to see how the courts will excuse Tinubu getting fined for a drug related offense.

I want to see how the courts will ignore the overwhelming evidence before them and rule to the contrary.

Like I said before, the judiciary would have to yank off a considerable portion of our constitution and the Electoral Act to retain Tinubu.

solmusdesigns:
There are many more appointments

Besides ElRufai isn't Lobbying, he made it crystal clear

Every other appointment from now on is inconsequential.

That’s why Sani is mocking Elrufai.

The two most powerful positions after the president is the SGF and the Chief of Staff.

Ministers report to the SGF and would need the clearance of the Chief of Staff to see the president.

garfield1:
Atiku tendered his exhibits since last week,about 300.the only difference bis that he tendered his own within two days without media noise...

Atiku is trying to say obi votes were inflated.it is not as if you are lying but you can't prove it empirically or scientifically....you said obi votes were suppressed in se but data suggest otherwise.in 2015 when gej inflated se votes,he got 2.4 mil.anambra gave him 600k votes the highest.in 2019 when we last used incident forms,atiku got 1.6 mil and with the coming of bvas obi had 1.9 mil.that is se votes averaged 2 mil.so where is the suppression? You guys always have the least turnout,videos showed people being intimidated to vote obi and results from abia show one agent signing several result sheets.most people in se supported obi so how come there was suppression? My brother,leave this thing.i believe obi team has abandoned all prayers and one to focus on one,that is proving that they was enough irregularities to cause a rerun or cancellations ...
Se was the only place that completely supported one candidate therefore making rigging totally impossible.the only thing they could do was to delay the elections,frustrate voters to go home without voting,buy votes,cause violence to disrupt elections and the courts can't do anything concerning that.

How funny of you to argue against my assertion that Obi’s votes was suppressed in the Southeast only for you to agree with me in the end.

When I say Obi’s votes was suppressed, I’m not saying that his numbers was another to another person’s own, no, what I mean is all those systematic suppressions.

Election materials were deliberately delayed across Southeast to frustrate voters. A lot of voters waited and got tired and went home. In some polling units, election materials never arrived which disenfranchised a lot of voters. Add that to other systematic manipulations.

If election materials had arrived in time across all polling units in the southeast, I can assure you that the Southeast could have done 3million.

fergie001:
In this game of politics, you have to attack and not be on the defensive. You have to crush your opponent so that he will not have the muscle to stand let alone fight back. Go and study what OBJ did to the SW Govs in 2003.

Study what GEJ did to Sylva and Ogbulafor when he became President.

The moment Ozigbo/Obaze moved to LP, I knew Soludo will react because Obi & himself have never been friends politically. The LP is pressing for a showdown in 2026 and we all know it.

The way they entered the HoA elections, you should have known. So Soludo will punch more, that's a given. He is in a space where he knows what Obi/Ozigbo and co want to do and vice-versa. It's the game and they are playing it.

In the place where Soludo is currently in Anambra politics, do you think he is attacking or he has already slid into defense?

But Obi also wanted to uproot Soludo with Ozigbo. He backed Val and still backing him.

Why will Soludo's not be understandable.
But he made a live broadcast right?

When Obi supported Val, Soludo was not governor. So I do not think it would make sense for Soludo to see a guber contest as Obi attacking him.

If he sees it like that, then why has he not assassinated the then Anambra Deputy Governor who defected from APGA to APC? Because that guy did more harm to Soludo’s chances than Obi did supporting Val.

https://www.nairaland.com/7337851/ebonyi-govt-obis-supporters-refused#116751492 (This was his lame excuse)

If my memory is not failing me, I think the rally was later held at the stadium 🏟. I know this because I saw clips.

But I hope you know I’m not an Umahi man and I’m not supporting him? If anything, I hate Umahi to my bones. The only reason I don’t seem to extend same energy I’m extending to Soludo to Umahi is because Umahi is a member of the APC which had a viable candidate in the election. So one could understand him campaigning for someone he knows stands a chance.

But Soludo knew his candidate in the election was a joke and he needed to align with a party that had a chance in the election. Brotherhood fraternity demanded that Soludo should align with his brother. But not only did Soludo align with an outsider, he took up arms against his brother.

Nobody from any other region did or has ever done this.

Osinbajo’s contest against Tinubu ended at the primaries. For whatever misgivings he has against the person of Tinubu, we never heard him say pim against Tinubu since the primaries until the end of the election.

For whatever misgivings any northerner has against the person of Atiku, nobody from the north wrote an open letter to him vilifying him for running for the presidency when it should be the turn of the South.

During the campaigns, every Nigerian with brains, knew that Obi stood a better chance than Kwankwaso (which the elections showed eventually) but no northerner wrote a letter to Kwankwaso accusing him of playing a dangerous game or whatever ridiculous accusations.

See, Fergie, I’m surprised you are making excuses for Soludo’s actions. Nothing, absolutely nothing, justified Soludo’s vituperations and I insist that an example should be made of him.

But now the Zone is in opposition and we cannot get out of it.

It is not bad to be in opposition but you have to learn to navigate through it, are we?

Atiku will not have won even with Obi. We can say that because of the permutations and all that but he will not have.

The Church came out because of Obi.
The SE voted like never before because of Obi.
The young ones joined in because of that.
Majority of the votes were as a result of not wanting Atiku/Tinubu than the perfections of Obi's time as Governor where we saw many who abused him then join his Campaign last year.

Most of the votes were to punish Atiku/Tinubu hence Atiku will not have enjoyed that because Obi is Vice and not the main man.

For the umpteenth time, Atiku will never have picked Obi as Vice. He always wanted a Gov...

Agreed. Atiku wouldn’t have chosen Obi as running mate again after the PDP governor’s forum extracted commitments from him to choose one of them if he emerges. Obi knew about this meeting and that’s why he left PDP.

But I don’t want to believe that Atiku would have lost if Obi hadn’t left PDP. Granted that turnout wouldn’t have been as it was but if minus about 2million votes from Atiku and Obi’s votes, you have 10million votes which would still have been enough for Atiku to trump Tinubu. Or would you say that new/activated voters exceeded 2million?

Who is teaching who a lesson?
Has the SE gained now wrt Abuja doings?
It is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
There was a Primary and people voted and someone won, what did PDP do?

Asides 1999, tell me one major Party that have zoned their Presidency? None. See, neither the APC nor PDP will Zone to the SE. It is now a fait accompli so you have to fight, compete, contest and carry other Zones along. Take it, grab it albeit legitimately and run away with it.

Rather than play the kind of two-faced politics that some people are suggesting just so we are not in opposition, I’d rather we remain in opposition. The Southwest was in opposition for close to 4 decades and they didn’t die.

Won which election?
Go to my comments on May 26 last year, it was mathematically and politically impossible for Obi/Atiku to have won the 2023 Presidential Election. That is a fact! Don't scream rigging, it was always bound to happen in the election.

Lol! I remember your comment of 26th May. But I laughed it off and I will still laugh it off again. I do not ask you to trust my intelligence but do you really think I would have invested my mental energy campaigning for Obi if didn’t see that he had mathematical pathway to the presidency?

Again, as a Lawyer, by saying there was no pathway for Obi to the presidency, are you saying that if tomorrow the courts decide, from the evidences available to them, that it was Obi that won the election, that the courts would have erred?

Does making Political decisions mean you are toeing the line of anyone? The North adjusted, they own the PDP and moved in droves to get APC.

Elections have been won and lost and no singular Zone can actualise the Presidency without support from others no matter how emotional we see it.

There is what we call political reality and the SS is moving. Jonathan is from SS but it seems we are the worst hit.

I am not saying all Igbos should join APC but you can be in one Party and offer Plenty. No messiah, including Obi or Soludo will do it for us.

We have to foster regional integration. Play your politics in Abuja but have a very strong regional bloc so that we can grow.

I have never blamed Obi for contesting, he has his rights, he is a politician so nobody can fault him on that.

See, Fergie, Igbos play ideological politics. And that’s why they are always averse to any party that holds some ideology against their own. I suggest we continue like that. Things might not be working out now but in no distant time, what you people consider as weakness will manifest as strength in the nearest future….

fergie001:
In this game of politics, you have to attack and not be on the defensive. You have to crush your opponent so that he will not have the muscle to stand let alone fight back. Go and study what OBJ did to the SW Govs in 2003.

Study what GEJ did to Sylva and Ogbulafor when he became President.

The moment Ozigbo/Obaze moved to LP, I knew Soludo will react because Obi & himself have never been friends politically. The LP is pressing for a showdown in 2026 and we all know it.

The way they entered the HoA elections, you should have known. So Soludo will punch more, that's a given. He is in a space where he knows what Obi/Ozigbo and co want to do and vice-versa. It's the game and they are playing it.

In the place where Soludo is currently in Anambra politics, do you think he is attacking or he has already slid into defense?

But Obi also wanted to uproot Soludo with Ozigbo. He backed Val and still backing him.

Why will Soludo's not be understandable.
But he made a live broadcast right?

When Obi supported Val, Soludo was not governor. So I do not think it would make sense for Soludo to see a guber contest as Obi attacking him.

If he sees it like that, then why has he not assassinated the then Anambra Deputy Governor who defected from APGA to APC? Because that guy did more harm to Soludo’s chances than Obi did supporting Val.

https://www.nairaland.com/7337851/ebonyi-govt-obis-supporters-refused#116751492 (This was his lame excuse)

If my memory is not failing me, I think the rally was later held at the stadium 🏟. I know this because I saw clips.

But I hope you know I’m not an Umahi man and I’m not supporting him? If anything, I hate Umahi to my bones. The only reason I don’t seem to extend same energy I’m extending to Soludo to Umahi is because Umahi is a member of the APC which had a viable candidate in the election. So one could understand him campaigning for someone he knows stands a chance.

But Soludo knew his candidate in the election was a joke and he needed to align with a party that had a chance in the election. Brotherhood fraternity demanded that Soludo should align with his brother. But not only did Soludo align with an outsider, he took up arms against his brother.

Nobody from any other region did or has ever done this.

Osinbajo’s contest against Tinubu ended at the primaries. For whatever misgivings he has against the person of Tinubu, we never heard him say pim against Tinubu since the primaries until the end of the election.

For whatever misgivings any northerner has against the person of Atiku, nobody from the north wrote an open letter to him vilifying him for running for the presidency when it should be the turn of the South.

During the campaigns, every Nigerian with brains, knew that Obi stood a better chance than Kwankwaso (which the elections showed eventually) but no northerner wrote a letter to Kwankwaso accusing him of playing a dangerous game or whatever ridiculous accusations.

See, Fergie, I’m surprised you are making excuses for Soludo’s actions. Nothing, absolutely nothing, justified Soludo’s vituperations and I insist that an example should be made of him.

But now the Zone is in opposition and we cannot get out of it.

It is not bad to be in opposition but you have to learn to navigate through it, are we?

Atiku will not have won even with Obi. We can say that because of the permutations and all that but he will not have.

The Church came out because of Obi.
The SE voted like never before because of Obi.
The young ones joined in because of that.
Majority of the votes were as a result of not wanting Atiku/Tinubu than the perfections of Obi's time as Governor where we saw many who abused him then join his Campaign last year.

Most of the votes were to punish Atiku/Tinubu hence Atiku will not have enjoyed that because Obi is Vice and not the main man.

For the umpteenth time, Atiku will never have picked Obi as Vice. He always wanted a Gov...

Agreed. Atiku wouldn’t have chosen Obi as running mate again after the PDP governor’s forum extracted commitments from him to choose one of them if he emerges. Obi knew about this meeting and that’s why he left PDP.

But I don’t want to believe that Atiku would have lost if Obi hadn’t left PDP. Granted that turnout wouldn’t have been as it was but if minus about 2million votes from Atiku and Obi’s votes, you have 10million votes which would still have been enough for Atiku to trump Tinubu. Or would you say that new/activated voters exceeded 2million?

Who is teaching who a lesson?
Has the SE gained now wrt Abuja doings?
It is like cutting your nose to spite your face.
There was a Primary and people voted and someone won, what did PDP do?

Asides 1999, tell me one major Party that have zoned their Presidency? None. See, neither the APC nor PDP will Zone to the SE. It is now a fait accompli so you have to fight, compete, contest and carry other Zones along. Take it, grab it albeit legitimately and run away with it.

Rather than play the kind of two-faced politics that some people are suggesting just so we are not in opposition, I’d rather we remain in opposition. The Southwest was in opposition for close to 4 decades and they didn’t die.

Won which election?
Go to my comments on May 26 last year, it was mathematically and politically impossible for Obi/Atiku to have won the 2023 Presidential Election. That is a fact! Don't scream rigging, it was always bound to happen in the election.

Lol! I remember your comment of 26th May. But I laughed it off and I will still laugh it off again. I do not ask you to trust my intelligence but do you really think I would have invested my mental energy campaigning for Obi if didn’t see that he had mathematical pathway to the presidency?

Again, as a Lawyer, by saying there was no pathway for Obi to the presidency, are you saying that if tomorrow the courts decide, from the evidences available to them, that it was Obi that won the election, that the courts would have erred?

Does making Political decisions mean you are toeing the line of anyone? The North adjusted, they own the PDP and moved in droves to get APC.

Elections have been won and lost and no singular Zone can actualise the Presidency without support from others no matter how emotional we see it.

There is what we call political reality and the SS is moving. Jonathan is from SS but it seems we are the worst hit.

I am not saying all Igbos should join APC but you can be in one Party and offer Plenty. No messiah, including Obi or Soludo will do it for us.

We have to foster regional integration. Play your politics in Abuja but have a very strong regional bloc so that we can grow.

I have never blamed Obi for contesting, he has his rights, he is a politician so nobody can fault him on that.

See, Fergie, Igbos play ideological politics. And that’s why they are always averse to any party that holds some ideology against their own. I suggest we continue like that. Things might not be working out now but in no distant time, what you people consider as weakness will manifest as strength in the nearest future.

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Penguin2 over to you.

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