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Feintline:
Papa Adeboye did not say anything like that. That was fake news.

Hmmm!

You mean Vanguard and other reputable platforms reported fake news?

Has he refuted the report?🤔🧐

fergie001:
Minus Rivers lawmakers ooooo.

Same thing I wanted to say.

The only reason I’m still giving them a chance is because I feel that if things remain as they are, then APC lawmakers will not vote in one direction.

Meanwhile I don’t understand how this Afam Ogene that was just elected yesterday seems to be so influential amongst Reps-elect.

Ttalk:
Because it is unheard of for someone who came third in an election to claim he won

Obi need to contest the second position first and can only lay claim to the first position after he had defeated Atiki who came second.

His intention of petitioning Tinubu is well understood by the SW people and history will always be there to reckon with.

But you applauded the Supreme Court, and still applaud her, for declaring Hope Uzodimma who came 4th, not even third, as governor of Imo State.

Your double standard is oozing

Phoney and inconsequential endorsement purchased by Uzodimma.

This is comparable only to Tinubu’s fake bishops.

Except that we know election will not take place in Imo State, if the people’s votes is to count, Uzodimma will come third.

You can argue with me like you always do but I’ve told you the reality on ground.

garfield1:
You still haven't learn.winning elections is beyond popularity.moreover,obi popularity is limited to ss se and pockets of nc.regions where it matters most in sw and core north,he isn't popular.his party isn't even strong enough to intervene.
Tinubu might not that popular in parts of the north but atiku too isn't popular.the mm ticket is popular up north.kwankwaso popularity doesbt exceed kano.atiku even won some northern states due to some personalities.kebbi was because of aliero,sokoto due to tambuwal..
If you are pointing to rigging,the last place to rig is the north esp by a non noertherner.they won't tolerate esp against a popular figure.with the popularity of gej and incumbent in 2011,he couldn't rig the north.obj with all his rigging couldn't win north.is it tinubu that has no incumbent power with an unpopular apc and a failed president that would be allowed to rig the north against two prominent northerners? If pdp had fielded buhari,he would have buried tinubu.tinubu won the north sir.
I told you that obi is not that popular in ss.a lot of his supporters have moved on.wbytine I raised hopes of obi winning at the court,,I am quickly shut down.it seems so many were against obi but were silent due to the bullying attitude of obidients

Let’s wait for the courts👍

helinues:
Apart from the electoral act, INEC as a body is allowed to make decisions on their own.

About the collation of election results, INEC are given the choice to pick which method will be suitable for them.

And that’s the decision they made and communicated that I just showed you in black and white.

At what time did they change that decision and why was that change not communicated to parties and candidates?

Kyase:
Not to talk much and bore you, below is my final prediction for this year's presidential election.

Will be using round figures in this prediction......

Without any delay, let's hit it

1: Abia
APC: 100k
PDP: 150k
Labour 500k

2: Adamawa
APC: 400k
PDP: 900k
NNPP: 50k

3: Akwa lbom
APC: 150k
PDP 300k
Labour 200k

4: Anambra
Apc: 50k
PDP: 150k
Labour: 650k

5: Bauchi
APC: 300k
PDP: 500k

6: Bayelsa
APC: 150k
PDP: 120k
Labour 80k

7 : Benue
APC: 250k
PDP: 250k
Labour: 100k

8: Borno
APC 1.2M
PDP 100k

9: Cross River
APC:100k
PDP: 80k
Labour: 150k

10: Delta
APC: 250k
PDP: 800k
Labour 300k

11: Ebonyi
APC: 100k
PDP' 150k
Labour 300k

12: Edo
APC:200k
PDP: 150k
Labour: 500k

13: Ekiti
APC 700k

14: Enugu
APC: 80k
PDP: 150k
Labour: 400k

15: Gombe
APC: 500k
PDP 550k

16: Imo
APC: 100k
PDP: 150k
Labour: 300k

17: Jigawa
APC: 500k
PDP: 400k
NNPP: 300k

18: Kaduna

APC: 800k
PDP: 800k
Labour 300k
NNPP: 200k

19: Kano
APC 1M
PDP:200k
NNPP 700k

20: Katsina

APC: 800k
PDP: 600k
NNPP: 100k

21: Kebbi

APC: 450k
PDP: 600k

22: Kogi
APC: 600k
PDP: 400k

23: Kwara
APC: 1.2M
PDP: 200k

24: Lagos

APC: 2.1M
PDP:150k
Labour: 500k

25: Nasarawa
APC: 200k
PDP: 150k

26:Niger

APC: 400k
PDP: 200k

27: Ogun
APC: 800k
PDP: 300k

28: Ondo
APC: 700k
PDP: 300k

29:Osun

APC: 700k
PDP: 200k

30:Oyo

APC: 1.1M
PDP: 300k

31: Plateau
APC: 200k
PDP: 300k
Labour: 300k

32: Rivers
APC: 200k
PDP: 300k
Labour: 500k

33: Sokoto
APC: 600k
PDP: 700k
NNPP: 200k

34: Taraba
APC: 200k
PDP: 500k

35: Yobe

APC:500k
PDP: 200k

36:Zamfara

APC: 900k
PDP: 200k
NNPP:100k


FCT
APC: 50k
PDP: 150k
Labour: 800k




THIS PREDICTION, HAS 90% CHANCE OF HAPPENING


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Kyase, this was your prediction on the outcome of the election and you claimed it had 90% of happening like that.

You predicted Tinubu to win Kano, Katsina, Lagos, Nasarawa, go head to head in Kaduna, and you allotted funny figures to APC in the Southeast and Southsouth.

You predicted Atiku would win Delta and other funny figures you allotted to him in Southeast.

I told you that you were wrong then but insisted you were right. Now you say it was cruise.

Now, I’m here again to tell you that the Tinubu case you are supporting will go against Tinubu and I hope you won’t come back to tell me you were catching cruise too.

Tinubu lost the election woefully. When APC saw this, they resorted to switching off the IREV to allow them room to manipulate figures against the person you all said he cannot win.

You guys are back to your usual rhetorics of “he cannot get anything in court”. I hope when it becomes obvious that he’d get something in court you guys will not lock the courtrooms like you switched off IREV?

Kyase:
I gave nass to pdp
Plateau to pdp
I said kaduna is dicy

Every other one was accurate

Don't have time to go back on the particular thread
My personal thread was a cruise

Oh! Your thread was cruise abi? After the outcome of the election made nonsense all your assumptions and anachronistic understanding of trends and times, you are calling it cruise?

I can’t wait for the courts to decide this case against Tinubu, you will still come back here to say that your support of Tinubu’s case was cruise.

helinues:
Except if what INEC violated about their guidelines is in the new electoral act, if not na dust bin petition.

Inec is an independent body which can make decisions on their own. If there proposed guidelines won't work effectively, they have the right to change it as an independent body without consulting any one .

Modified- To those shouting Prof Yakubu said this or that, INEC is called a body for a reason. The decision making lies on the Inec body which Prof Yakubu is part of and the chairman.

Prof Yakubu can't force his opinion on the body. All the decisions was made by the body not Prof Yakubu personal decisions

I just saw that you modified your post.

Now, look at the statement below that was issued by the spokesman of INEC as a Commission (body, like you chose to call it).

Is this statement not also binding on INEC having been issued on behalf of the body?

NOETHNICITY:
That logic doesn’t apply
Check this out, the rule says the ref will make reference to VAR in deciding match proceedings. Suddenly out of the blue tech glitches occur making VAR unavailable. What is the referee supposed to do under this circumstance? He will consult with his colleagues (other co-refs like lines men) and make decisions based on perceptions

Good.

Now, is it not beholden on the referee to communicate this glitch in time to the competing teams in a manner that shows that he is still neutral and impartial?

Another question for the umpire to answer is what caused the glitches. This question should be answered and demonstrated in a manner acceptable and satisfying to the competing teams.

Again, Is the glitch suffered, enough reason for the referee to start blowing throwing as corner kicks and free kicks as penalties because there’s no more digital backup to review his decision (see Rivers State)?


In the end, we are all humans and we know and see when people are sincere in their dealings. INEC was malicious in their actions and Nigerians and the world know that irrespective of what the courts rule.

Kyase:
I don talk my own
Wait for newspaper report


You disagreed with me on northern votes whatsapp now..
Better agree with me on everything bro

You have not answered me, which drug case was thrown out?

And which of your predictions in the north came to pass? Go and mention me in the thread.

Did you not say Tinubu would win Nasarawa?

Did you not say PDP would win Plateau?

Did you not say Tinubu would win Kaduna?

Did you not say PDP would win Abuja?

What were your predictions before the election?

fergie001:
This is not how it works.
I have answered it in my reply below. Your case have to be proven in toto.


There were irregularities but let me tell you, there is no time to deal with cases in our Presidential Electoral System.

The Courts know there are irregularities but they have to be isolated one after another, PU by PU.. we have 176, 000+ in 3 months, how?

With all the necessary and unnecessary adjournments?
Oral and written documentary evidence?

When Olanipekun starts pressing with his unnecessary delays and time-wasting tactics, you will understand.

How? My point is simple, one State can fall, maybe two but will it be enough to upturn the difference between Tinubu and Atiku/Obi?

In 2007, the SC sided with the Appeal Court and cancelled the Presidential Elections in Imo State because there was widespread electoral irregularity and violence.

May Nigeria never and never again see a black Saturday like April 19, 2003,” (Justice Sylvanus Nsofor was the judge who dissented and said this during his judgement at the Appeal Court), yet the two other Justices, Ogebe & one other cancelled only Imo. (Those two others were later elevated to the Supreme Court but Nsofor retired as an Appeal Court Judge).

When Buhari & Atiku pressed for total cancellation, the SC said no.

That there was violence in some places, LGAs, PUs doesn't mean the elections should be totally cancelled. 2007 was the cruelest of our elections system..

This is not Governorship Elections, this is Presidential..... It is more difficult to prove your cases as a Petitioner than as a respondent.

Let me tell you what happened in Oyo in 2019. At the Governorship tribunal, the Tribunal had no time because of the tactics of Makinde's lawyer. They passed a verdict to beat the 180 days timeline without either upturning or affirming the results. They said NOTHING! It was the SC that did that....

When the case starts proper, we will deal with the IReV, BVAS issue.

Let’s watch and wait on the courts to decide the case. Then we’ll see what they decide and their arguments for such decision.

Kyase:
Two
Drug case
And all aa petition

Which drug case?

AA petition was dismissed because they withdrew it.

Every other thing stands as it is.

How would the Tribunal dismiss what it hasn’t heard? I keep getting more and more disappointed of your person the more I get to read your arguments.

Goodness 🤦

garfield1:
What is your evidence that it was rigged? Why was kano not rigged? If atiku is popular,is his party popular? If tinubu is not popular,is his party unpopular

Most of the little support Tinubu got up north during the campaigns was due to the popularity of local candidates and not because of Tinubu as a person or APC as a party.

Take Benue for instance, the only reason Benue people voted for Tinubu was because of Fr Alia and not because of their love for APC or Tinubu. If a rerun is declared today, I can assure you that the voting pattern might be different in Benue since they have delivered Alia.

Again, I asked you to tell me one state in the north that Tinubu can go to on his own and have supporters lined up in the streets waving at him without being mobilized.

Tinubu is unpopular. Same as APC his party. If anything ever happens that crowd is needed, Tinubu and APC will be overrun except for the fact that they would be controlling the Armed Forces then.

The courts might end up upholding Tinubu’s election but tell yourself the truth that Tinubu is very unpopular in Nigeria.

fergie001:
Good, that is what the lawyers will do.
PU by PU, extract the results just like I see that of Rivers if true. They will then calculate, whilst doing so, is it enough to enure victory to the Petitioner. Can he cover that gap, about 2m?

Let's be honest, you and I know nobody will cancel this election.....

You are not looking at this the right way.

Because, in my thinking, all the petitioners need to do is to prove one obvious case of irregularity, and that should be enough to vitiate the entire election.

Take Rivers for instance, if PO lawyers can prove in court, through hard copy evidences, that PO actually won Rivers but INEC announced Tinubu, the question for the court to determine is, did INEC engage in such irregularity only in Rivers or are there more?

A man has 8 goats 🐐 but he stole one of them from me. If I’m able to prove that he truly stole my goat, do you not think that people and jurists are likely going to be of the thinking that it’s possible that even the remaining 7 doesn’t belong to him especially if there are other claimants to the remaining 7 goats?

garfield1:
Who did the vote for? Who were they supporting before the polls? Are they complaining? Are they with obi

The north voted majorly for Atiku.

Kano voted Kwankwaso.

Most other numbers from the north are product of rigging.

The only reason the north seems indifferent to the whole thing is because they know they won’t be disadvantaged irrespective of who is president.

But I can assure you that if push comes to shove, you won’t see people in the streets of the north in support of Tinubu.

Or mention one northern state where Tinubu is popular as a person bar Borno because of Shettima.

fergie001:
Who will cancel the election because of non-transmission of results?

I have long left this case behind....

Not just non-transmission, what about obvious irregularities in hard copy? They don’t matter? Because in all, INEC substantially adhered to the Electoral Act? That’s all that matters?

Ok.

garfield1:
Any election can be nullified but the larger the size,the harder it is to prove.courts easily nullify legislative polls but hardly nullify guber polls because of the enormousness of evidence.governorship is in just a state but yet it hardly gets upturned except by hope uzodinma who didn't complain of irregularities but smartly claimed he won bar wrong collation

Kyase hope you have heard?

Stop exposing yourself in public.

VaselineCrew:
There is a murder trial,

One source finds evidence on the murder weapon.

But instead of the news media to focus on inputs that drive the case, like the murder weapon, they say that the victim was in court sleeping.

Does a sleeping victim or a murder weapon move a murder case forward?

I’ve always said that IQ LEVELS are too low in Naija!

Lol.

You are surprised abi?

Seems you are new to Nairaland. Some of us who are old enough here, don’t get moved when they engage in such trivialities while leaving more serious issues at the back burner as long it doesn’t suit their narrative and agenda.

I can guarantee it to you that that post of Rivers IREV result will never make it to front page.

SpatialKing:
Whenever you guys talk like this or make statements like this....
You do out of fear and uncertainty..

The only reason why court won't nullify the election is because the North and Yoruba people might burn down the country out of anger.....

Which north?

Who told you the north is with Tinubu?

Kyase:
Hahaha
I think a truck was driven to court Premise in 2019 by pdp

And let me tell you, it was all those ballot papers shown on social media

Court will ask Inec to bring the original and it will be cross examine with what nannu lawyers present, so chill...

NB: Supreme Court or any court can't nullify the presidential election, why?
Inec is independent just like the judiciary, they can only make recommendations for inec

Garfield1
Fergie001

Come and hear Kyase say that Supreme Court has no power to nullify presidential election conducted by INEC because it’s independent.

But let me ask you very quickly, if your point is true, why has Supreme Court nullified governorship elections/declared another candidate several times.

Or how is presidential election different from governorship election?

Kyase:
The court will not accept result from irev as evidence, thump printed and hard copy given to various agents at the polling unit, or forget about it

In fact most of the issues will be thrown out today

So, how many were later thrown out today 🤔🧐?

Buhari is Nigeria’s greatest conman ever.

He’s a heist.

I wonder how he managed to wear the garb of incorruptibility for so long.

The man is just another yam eater😏

garfield1:
Is tinubu an ex convict? Does forfeiture equal conviction? Did tinubu voluntarily acquire Guinean citizenship? Will the Guineans testify against tinubu? Will the judges elevate fct above other states? Is inec guidelines violation a ground for petition?

The section of the constitution that Obi based his drug case didn’t say the person must have been convicted. It talks about if the person has ever been fined in any case that shows dishonesty. And it has no time limit.

Posh2018:
The guidelines were fashioned after the electoral act. INEC cannot violate the electoral act, but can modify her guidelines so long as it is in conformity with the electoral act. The electoral act is specific on how results are to be collated. Download from IREV is not the bases for collation of results. IREV is just for public view and a nice to have under the electoral act. Hence, forcing the use of result from IREV is even in contravention of the act. Surprise?

The question is, did INEC inform the parties of the change in their guidelines after distributing and issuing guidelines for the conduct of the election?

Do you go into a contest without knowing the rule of the game? Where has it been done before?

press9jatv:
huge robbery here. I heard Peter Obi lawyers weren’t allowed to inspect the Bvas machines?

They were later allowed to inspect the BVAS.

Whether they had enough time to get what they wanted from the BVAS is what I don’t know.

fergie001:
Well, my own problem is I think, the inexperience of the panel.

Asides Tsammani and to some extent Adah, others I haven't seen deliver very strong judgements per se.

We will watch nonetheless but I believe 2 or 3 of these Judges will likely climb up to the SC after this.

That’s the catch. You got it.

Some monetary inducements and a promise of elevation to the Supreme Court.

Imagine a judge elevated to the Court of Appeal in 2021 which is obviously through political patronage of APC, it would be foolhardiness expecting her to be neutral. And I’m talking of the woman from Oyo State.

Well, I read somewhere, not long ago, that the chairman of the Tribunal said cases would be determined by their merit and not technicalities. And that intentional waste of time won’t be tolerated.

But then, he’s just one man. No one knows where the other 4 or 3 stand.

fergie001:
Anytime I see you arguing about this case, I always laugh.
What were you expecting?

Vampires took power in 2015.

It will take some drastic measures to retrieve it from their claws.

But that said, I don’t see how the judges will resolve every ground of petition in Tinubu’s favour.

From Forfeiture of funds due to drug related offense to Perjury to 25% in FCT to INEC’s failure to follow their own guidelines to other obvious irregularities.

I would still hold that the best Tinubu can get from the court would be a rerun election that I fear he might not partake due to ineligibility.

press9jatv:
Chaiiii seriously Peter Obi was cheated in Rivers State joor. Wike Na clueless wicked and useless drunkard

This is not cheating, it’s robbery.

fergie001:
In 2019, there was also nobody from the SE.

My spirit is weakened.

I feel the new guys have been given a matching order of what to do at the Tribunal.

Justice Monica and Justice Ikyegh seemed fearless and ready to do justice. Now they are out.

Whatever made Justice Monica cave in is weighty.

We might just have to prepare for Tinubu’s 8 years or for the setting ablaze of this country. Between those two, one will happen.

A picture allegedly taken from the IREV depicting the result of the presidential election result for Rivers State has emerged with Peter Obi clearly winning the state by a landslide while INEC declared Tinubu as winner of the state in the manual tabulation and declaration.

People are expressing surprise how INEC came to announce Tinubu as winner in Rivers State and wondering how it hopes to defend this obvious discrepancy in court.

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