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seunmsg:
They did not dismiss IREV, they only said BVAS is the primary source of data to prove Election Day irregularities. Irrelevant argument such as results were not uploaded on IREV from polling units holds no water in as much as what is eventually uploaded is in-line what’s on BVAS.

From Peter Obi’s petition, it’s obvious they don’t even have a substantial number of form EC8A as they don’t have agents in most polling units. They may get lucky with Rivers if what’s on IREV is the same with what’s on BVAS. But then, that’s where it ends for them. Rivers alone is not enough to change the outcome of the entire election.

Results from various states uploaded on IREV have been calculated by different interest groups including Mark Essien of the Obidient movement and they all ended up arriving at Tinubu’s victory.

Finally, to prove rigging, a candidate must produce the direct result on BVAS from over 170k polling units. I will be waiting for how any candidate will do that successfully.

Lol! So when you heard Labour Party doesn’t have complete agents for all polling units, you thought Rivers is one of those places? Stop playing.

The only places I suspect Labour found it difficult to get agents are core northern states like Yobe, Borno, Katsina, Kebbi, Kano, etc. But you see southern states, forget it, Labour agents were complete.

So, don’t worry about how Labour and Obi will produce their forms EC8A, worry for Tinubu instead.

Meanwhile, if Obi can prove irregularity in Rivers, that’s enough to vitiate the whole election and lead to annulment.

seunmsg:
And you assuming he has evidence when he has not presented anything at all to back up his claim is not presumptuous, right? Dey play.

Is it time for presentation of evidences and invitation of witnesses?

Or he should have come to show them to you as chairman of the panel of judges abi?

ejimatic:
. The SC never accepted BVAS report or IREV . It described BVAS machines as primary data that must be brought to court and BVAS report with IREV data as insignificant.
It also agreed that Voters register is necessary to prove overvoting..
In my opinion both Obi and Atiku have no cases again with the precedent set today in this judgement.
Atiku and Obi relied on IREV and BVAS reports. already jetisioned today by the SC.
Congrats to Adeleke .Osun Adara! Congrats to BAT in advance .Long live Nigeria.

As an APC apologist I would be surprised if you say something different.

Because the Supreme Court never declared IREV insignificant. No mention of IREV was made. So where did you get your submission from?

blacknp:
Same Peter Obi that was not even eligible to contest the election?

Says who?

Says you, the Chief Justice of the Federation abi?

engineerboat:
The 2 case in reference are different

Oyetola is saying I DON'T NEED BVAS BECAUSE I ONLY NEED INEC DATABASE BUT THE COURT SAID NO, YOU NEED TO PRESENT THE BVAS AS THE ACTUAL MEANS OF THE UPLOAD WHICH MUST BE CORRECT

However in PEPT It's a case of WHAT YOU GAVE TP PARTY AGENT IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS ANNOUNCED AND ALSO IN YOUR GUIDELINE AS A CHECK AND BALANCE IREV WAS NOT DONE.

Please tell him. Hopefully, he will listen.

lhordspy:
According to your main point, this:
"First, and the most important takeaway, is that the apex court has established it as a precedent that the BVAS is the primary source of data for the election. What this means is that every vote scored or announced by INEC must tally with the accreditation data as captured by the BVAS."

I have come to the conclusion that it is either you are ignorant of this whole thing or you trying hard to confuse yourself rather than convince your reader.

BVAS is different from IREV. Will i have to continue screaming this everyday?

And what do you mean by "every vote scored or announced must tally with accreditation voters?"

Going by the judgement, Obi has no case. Obi used 2weeks trying to harvest data from Bvas stored in INEC server. And they came back with complains instead of concrete evidence. We know how lousy the LP are, if there was anything tangible as outcome. They would have included 'Over voting' in their petition. They would have made it the center of their wailing.

It is two different thing here. Ademola vs Adeleke case is centred on over-voting, and it is very logical that BVAS should be the main source of focus; because that is the main work of the BvAS. But Obi's petition is centred around result and other small fries that falls under deminimis rule . And it has nothing to do with BVAS.

Just a reminder, Obi has 3 other solid ground of petition against Tinubu before we get to the part that has to do with the BVAS.

My talking about the BVAS here is just to inform you guys that Obi’s case is getting even more stronger.

And saying that Obi came with complaints rather than concrete evidence after inspecting the BVAS is being presumptuous because trials have not started and you haven’t seen the evidences they extracted from the BVAS. And mind you, nothing stops parties from bringing more evidences as the case progresses just like nothing stops the court from ordering INEC to produce all the BVAS machines used for the election.

seunmsg:
For anyone to prune over voting or rigging, only direct data on BVAS will be accepted as primary source of evidence. Nonsense argument like results were not uploaded straight from polling units is useless.

In as much as the declared result is substantially in-line with what’s on BVAS, it’s a done deal.

Peter Obi and Atiku’s results were not uploaded on IREV argument has been trashed even before the commencement of the case.

Finally, except there is a very substantial and widespread irregularities, Supreme Court will always side with whoever is declared winner by INEC.

Lol!

Is this the watery argument that you are hoping will save you guys from Rivers robbery?

Need I remind you that the Supreme Court equally ruled that Form EC8A, which is where votes are entered at polling units with party agents having a copy, is equally consequential in proving the authenticity of votes declared by INEC.

So, using Rivers as an example, what Obi’s lawyers need to do is to provide the form EC8A of all the polling units in Rivers State as issued to Labour Party by Polling Unit Returning Officer. Once the court can determine that the numbers on the form EC8A of Labour Party agents, and PDP agents too (most probably), and that the numbers on the EC8A of Labour Party agents actually tally with the numbers on IREV, you think the court is going to look away?

Lastly, the Supreme Court did not dismiss the instrumentality of the IREV in election matters.

garfield1:
You didnt read it well.they were three different accreditation reports and none tallied with what inec declared.since apc could not prove sufficient overvoting,it failed.obi never extracted data directly from the bvas so he fails

How can you say Obi never extracted data directly from the BVAS?

What then did his lawyers go to do at INEC HQ when they went to inspect materials?

And hey, Obi’s case is just starting. You can’t claim to be privy to his lawyers’ evidences and materials. Wait until trials start.

And remember that Adeleke’s lawyer, Onyechi Ikpeazu, is also Obi’s lawyer. He’s definitely going to take lessons from this Osun case to the Presidential Petition Tribunal.

Before the Supreme Court ruled on Oyetola v Adeleke case, I made a submission that whatever the Supreme Court decides on the case would be very consequential to the presidential petitions of Atiku and Peter Obi. And the reason I said this is because this is the first time that the highest court will be ruling on a case involving the BVAS and IREV since the 2022 Electoral Act was signed into law which made BVAS and IREV legal properties of INEC.

My argument was, and still is, that whatever the court decides will serve as a precedent on how the lower courts will adjudicate on electoral petitions in different tribunals across the country, and being so recent, it will be a precedent that no one would expect the Supreme Court to overrule itself on anytime soon.

Now, the apex court has upheld the election of Ademola Adeleke. Congratulations to him. But what did they say in delivering their judgment?

First, and the most important takeaway, is that the apex court has established it as a precedent that the BVAS is the primary source of data for the election. What this means is that every vote scored or announced by INEC must tally with the accreditation data as captured by the BVAS.

Again, and similarly, INEC declared results must tally with accreditation data on the BVAS.

I think there are other things they said which would be further elaborated on by lawyers in the house even though more clarity will come when we get the full judgment of the court.

Fergie001
Garfield1
Ejimatic

youngsahito:
The president that Nigeria lost to drug lord.

Lol! No let Tinubu Owambe boys catch you o!

sparko1:
Exactly, they way INEC handled it created the loophole Hope navigated to victory, it is one thing if there is no result, its another thing to just cancel the result after it has been declared at the polling unit, and we can blame the supreme court but, they couldn't have done it with the help from both INEC and PDP.

Uzodimma had his game planned out from the very start. He knew what he wanted to do and I’m sure he even got a legal advice about it before the election. It was a smart criminality.

The only reason people are angry at the Supreme Court is because they were supposed to understand these things instead of insisting on the “Letters of the Law” at the expense of the “Spirit of the Law”.

Ekundayo7574:
Please let's celebrate our Governor in waiting, I clearly saw that he won today's tribunal its was a great joy and happiness from peoples knowing fully well that his mandate that was stolen before has been restore.

How far?

I’m sure you have now confirmed that it’s malaria you have?

Tor

His doctor’s appointment haff reach😏

INEC selected a vegetable for you people 😏.

fergie001:
Oyetola's issue is BVAS reports v BVAS machine.

Ok.

It’s good Adeleke’s Lead Counsel is in Obi’s legal team.

I’m sure this case and judgment will give him enough experience to tackle Obi’s case.

fergie001:
Inyang Ekwo, Mohammed Lawal Garba, Adamu Jauro, Tijjani Abubakar, Emmanuel Akomaye Agim JJSC (Judgement unanimous)

Agim prepared the lead judgement:

All five grounds resolved in favour of the Respondent, Appeal hereby dismissed.

I know you said you are no longer interested in the case, but what does this judgment mean for Atiku and Obi’s case at the presidential tribunal? Considering that they also raised issues regarding to the BVAS in their petitions.

Antipob777:
What of other obi lawyers. Peter obi is ipob grand patron. A terorists and a cultist

Name them, and name how many of them are in Nnamdi Kanu’s panel.

NaijaCowFarm:
Some ladies are ugly and also without brains.
What a disaster?

Op is not a lady. Na man.

Don’t let Nairaland gender description deceive you.

Antipob777:
Fello Nigerians, have you observed that all the Lawyers representing Peter Obi in court are same Lawyers representing Nnamdi kanu in court.

Nigerians must always thank God for saving us from an IPOB president.

Peter obi is a grand patron and sponsor of IPOB.

We really dodged a bullet.

Jehovah Nnam, Nara Ekene

Mike Ozekhome is representing Atiku at the Tribunal.

Meanwhile, before Mike was brought into Kanu’s case, his man lawyer was, and still is, Aloy Ejimakor. Did you see him there?

Can you people stop embarrassing yourselves for once?

sparko1:
I think most of you don't read, that is why you just follow beer parlor news, the case at that time was about the absent of result from 388 polling unit (out of 1235 polling units), first INEC AND PDP presented no evidence that election were conducted in those polling units, while Hope made sure that the result were secured with the Police, Hope claimed that those 388 polling units were his stronghold (NO COUNTER CLAIM), almost all the votes in those polling units were given to him and the result changed everything.

I think the issue was, they knew those polling units were his stronghold so they made a calculated attempt to exclude the results, now almost every election has something like this, if it was a matter of thugs destroying the result from some not all of the those polling units, it will be a different thing (They might redo the election), its like the Adamawa issue, they knew if the result continued they won't will, they quickly declared someone else when result we still not complete.

In the case of the presidential election, the difference is, Obi can't lay claim to anywhere he lost as his stronghold, and none of those place were omitted from the election result, non can he say the result from south East were omitted or falsified because he won with a very surprising margin, now, his prayers is to disqualify Tinubu, and claim that there was violence in some places, while the violence claim can't get him anything, if he succeed in disqualifying Tinubu, the runner up will be crowned.

See, I’ve also dispassionately read what happened in the Uzodimma case and I came to agree that the Supreme Court is not entirely to blame. The problem came from INEC who canceled the votes at the Local Government Collation Centre instead of at the Polling Units which was what the law provided. But that’s technicality.

Because the truth of the matter was that those results were manufactured and criminally over-inflated for Uzodimma. When the Local Government returning officer saw it, he disagreed with the numbers and canceled the results. INEC Authorities at State level and National level agreed with the decision and excluded those results and announced Ihedioha.

Supreme Court finally accepting those phoney figures based on technicality was criminal.

On Obi’s case, you can see it even INEC’s IREV portal that there are obvious discrepancies in the result announced by INEC and what actually happened on Election Day. The footprints are everywhere.

These two cases are not the same.

frank14011991:
you talk pass this one for presidential election

All my predictions for the presidential election happened except Benue which Obi is contesting anyways.

Apart from Benue, Obi won all the places I said he would win.

When I told you folk that he would win Delta you called me a joker, what happened?

He won Rivers by a landslide but Wike did whatever he did to give it to Tinubu which is now hanging on his throat like fishbone.

You need to understand that I don’t speak or approach issues with emotions. My submissions are always informed by reason and facts.

fergie001:
He was in the House of Reps before and he is a journalist. He was Deputy-Chair, Public Affairs whilst he was in the Houss. He used to be an editor with the Source Magazine and alongside the present PDP Publicity Secretary, founded a newspaper, 360 Daily a few years ago.

I get it now. I suspected he must have been in the House before too.

Dalu.

ejimatic:
That is why I am interested in this again.! If BVAS is jettisoned today .Obis and Atiku cases lack value from the outset.

A lot of people didn’t understand me when I said what I said.

The ruling of the Supreme Court today will be very consequential to how Obi and Atiku’s cases will go.

helinues:
Razor gazette should stop all this nonsense.

Nobody dey believe their junk news again except those who have refused to make use of their free gifted senses

Oh! But you believed them when they posted fake Yes Daddy call Abi?

GeneralPula:
Lol..

Wole must be making you feel dizzy!

He’s yet to start anything! Apc lawyers are respondent! Active lawyers atm are the opposition lawyers. If this news is true, the court must have seen the opposition lawyers being trying to run some inaccurate shiii..

When the main hearing starts, that’s when case begins!

Wole make me feel dizzy? Naaaah!

Meanwhile, everybody in Nigeria knows that Wole is chief of technicalities in Nigeria. Again, it’s Tinubu’s lawyers that have been dodging service and refusing to file responses in time just to waste time.

Kyase:
Fantastic

Only the petitioner can use technicality

Tinubu 5
The losers 0

Lol!

I wonder if you are living in today’s world or in another.

If not, who doesn’t know that Wole Olanipekun who is Tinubu’s lead counsel is the chairman of technicalities in Nigeria?

So, it’s actually a loss for Tinubu and Wole Olanipekun.

blacknp:
It is ttalk I blame, he doesn’t know how pained you really are, for him to be wasting his precious time exchanging banters with a perennial loser, you amongst Shameless things racoon 🦝 & Co that abandoned Nnamdi Kanu & Biafra for Peter Obi & Zoo Nigeria?

You cannot reap where you did not sow.

Lol! You just have to stick to what you were told to say in your WhatsApp group, right?

I’ve challenged all of you to show prove, even one, of where I have ever supported IPOB but you guys keep failing to do it.

Rest.

Felabrity:
Beware of tinubu and his fake news merchants

They are seeking for validation up and down

Thank you for this. I was already tackling Adeboye.

Apologies, papa.

But I saw so many reputable news platforms report the news on their handles.

I’ve gone back to check now and all of them has deleted the news which shows it was truly fake news.

Feintline:
https://www.nairaland.com/7681988/fact-check-did-pastor-adeboye#123013682

Trust me, I’ve been combing all over Twitter trying to get that news and post on Nairaland, but all the platforms that I saw that had tweeted the report seem to have all deleted it. Couldn’t find it anywhere anymore. So, it was obviously a fake news.

Apologies to Pa Adeboye then.

Benwallt:
In response to paragraph three, a whole lot of factors come to play, like the individual put forward, like popular platform, like acceptance outside ethnicity, like antecedent and the individuals around such persons outside his ethnic group. Like the two major platforms before the third force led by Obi. Let's assume that the PDP had followed the zoning arrange and an Igbo man gets the nod, he automatically becomes a rally point in that party across the country so winning the election becomes a little bit easier whether he is a popular candidate or not. The fact that he is the standard flag bearer will make it so. So, it's not being Igbo that disqualified him but the inability of the popular platforms to adopt one as the flag bearer.

In a party hierarchy in Nigeria when it comes to allocating positions, you will agree with me that the position occupied by anybody of Igbo extraction is not an enviable one and that's still a factor.

On the last paragraph, I used to ask myself sometimes that, is it that Nigeria is schemed against the igbos when it come to power sharing or that the Igbos are just generally docile and comfortable with whatever comes to them or that they just handle politics as business, you come, haggle over price, you buy or you don't buy and move away. I think what is just needed is a strong united front whereby one Igbo man comes out, the rest queue behind him rather than everybody wanting to go at once.

On paragraph two, I think if people are less greedy and there is a working ideology. The problem there will be solved. If there is no enemy within, there is no way enemy from without will have a safe landing.

On your first paragraph, the only reason PDP wasn’t confident to zone the ticket to the Southeast was because of their knowledge of the sentiments against the Igbos in Nigeria. If PDP had given their ticket to Obi for instance, Tinubu’s victory would have been unquestionable because the entire core north would rather vote a dead goat than an Igbo man. The only reason Peter stood a chance in the last election, and is talking about stolen mandate, is because people like Atiku and Kwankwaso were on the ballot and took the vote of the core north away from Tinubu.

Your third paragraph talked about Igbos queuing behind one man. Isn’t that what we did in the last election (ignore some politicians to issued dissenting statements, they were just playing politics) but the Nigerian State ensured that the process wasn’t free, fair and transparent which would seen Obi win.

So, my friend, the Igbos are not to be blamed. It’s the Nigerian State that still wants to keep the Igbo man down.

People’s Gazette is reporting that over 100 lawmakers have signed an impeachment notice to the Speaker of the House of Representatives, Femi Gbajabiamila, for doctoring the House Rules without the knowledge of his fellow lawmakers or principal officers of the House to make way for his preferred candidate, Hon. Tajudeen Abass to emerge as Speaker of the 10th Assembly.

https://gazettengr.com/gbajabiamila-faces-impeachment-for-forging-house-rules-to-impose-abbas-tajudeen-as-new-speaker/

Mynd44
Nlfpmod

The Chairman of the Presidential Election Petition Tribunal has told lawyers representing different parties in court that the myriads of cases before the court will be decided on their merits as the court will not entertain technicalities.

This serves as warning to some lawyers who are notorious at looking for loopholes in cases to exploit and get the case thrown out on technicalities rather than see the case decided on its merit.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/05/presidential-dispute-we-wont-tolerate-technicalities-court-warns-tinubu-atiku-obi/

Mynd44
Nlfpmod