₦airaland Forum

walex2:
Zombies are just giving themselves false hope, these Obi supporters are not tired of propaganda just provide us wit the evidence of your form EC8 Ina an election that you only have about 60 percent agents across the pooling units in Nigeria. Zombies forget to quote the constitutional requirements of being a member of a political party for at least one year and your name must appear on member's register of political party submitted to INEC 3 months before the primary election

Can you quote the section of the constitution that says that a person must have been a member of a political party before contesting election in the party?

Secondly, can you say what the law states as the consequence of someone’s name not being in the name a party submitted to INEC and he later emerges as candidate?

Third, are you sure you understand the difference between the Constitution and the Electoral Act or are these two documents the same thing in your world?

MadamExcellency:
You are too childish to be engaged.

Is that an affidavit? Does that seem like legislative records to you?

Which deity did he swear to?

Get lost if you don't understand what oath means. Constituting a political statement into Oath is ridiculous. Politics is a game of interest and no one is bound to remain in an abusive marriage or an association where they have lost relevance.

A statement is not synonymous with an Oath.

I’ve tried ignoring you since but you keep quoting me.

And my grouse with you is your failure to understand that we are on the same side.

And your problem is your failure to read through what I wrote or at least check my antecedent.

Please get your facts right and stop coming against your fellow comrade.

Shalom!

seunmsg:
Lol, INEC gave them form EC8A that contained results different from what they declared, right? Just dey play.

No.

INEC gave LP lawyers forms EC8A containing the same fraud they declared and LP lawyers foolishly took it to court to help prove that Tinubu won.

And again, LP doesn’t have their own forms EC8A from the states they are contesting.

Difrent:
Are you insinuating fake news does not exist on social media?
Propaganda and fake news have gotten new lease of life in social media......
FAKE NEWS UNTRUTHS MISINFORMATION OUTRIGHT LIES AND HALF TRUTHS ...all these and many more is actually what social media is known for. The youth who are the most active participants in the social media space will also one day come up with this kind of a post after discovering they have been fooled by the glitz and glamour of a deceptive communication medium called social media

But that’s the beauty of social media still.

If I doubt whatever you have posted, I’ll simply google or research what you have posted to verify your claim.

When I said that with social media lies and propaganda can no longer fly freely, I wasn’t suggesting that it would serve only one divide.

But we know who the culprits are when it comes to spinning false narrative and propaganda.

garfield1:
Oga,tinubu will spend complete 8 years.cobtinue ranting

With what I’m seeing in court now, I don’t think Tinubu will spend Christmas as President of Nigeria.

But fingers crossed!

The best thing that happened in this 21st century is that there is now social media which has taken away agenda setting from the hands of liars and fools like those who sold propaganda and lies to the rest of Nigerians against the Igbos in the 60s, 70s, 80 and 90s.

Sometimes I just imagine the volume of fake news that your fathers must have perpetuated in the early 90s when there was no way to very whatsoever they sold through their Lagos-Ibadan Expressway Press.

If they are still selling fake news and propaganda in this age of social media where everything can easily be verified, you can imagine what they did then.

OP, your lame attempt at trying to lump LP and IPOB together will fail just like same narrative failed woefully during the election which made Nigerians vote overwhelmingly for Obi despite stupid propagandas such as this one you are spinning here.

And hey, Obi is coming.

seunmsg:
Some of these obedients are ignorantly funny. They are masturbating over certified true copies of state results that were given to them by INEC as if the results are different from what INEC declared. They have provided One single evidence of rigging yet they are making noise and misinforming gullible folks all over the place.

So you are saying that INEC gave forms EC8A of those states to LP lawyers and after LP lawyers looked at them and saw that they were the same thing as what INEC announced, they still carried it to court?

Again, are you aware that every LP polling unit agent had his or her own copy of Form EC8A from every polling unit in Nigeria which was submitted to the party?

You will soon wake up to reality.

Oyo
Bayelsa
Adamawa

So far, LP has submitted materials for 12 states with 6 more states to go.

Akwa Ibom
Lagos
Edo

More states

Niger
Osun
Ekiti

States where LP has submitted Certified True Copies of Form EC8A to the court.

Rivers
Benue
Cross River

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MadamExcellency:
Where was it written and signed?

Are you saying Obidients made this up?

An excerpt of APC and Tinubu lawyers’ response to one of the grounds of petition by Peter Obi has generated funny reactions from a section of the public who wondered how supposed trained lawyers could proffer such an argument as defense for how Obi was not qualified to run for the Presidential Election under Labour Party. They even went ahead and promised that they were going to provide a video proof of Obi swearing never to leave APGA.

One now wonders what law such swear breached. When did that become part of constitutional qualification for the position of president.

With responses like this, those who say Tinubu and INEC have no concrete response to many grounds of Obi’s petition may not be wrong.

Recall that between Thursday and Friday, Obi’s Lawyers have been able to tender Certified True Copies of Form EC8A of 12 States as evidence to the Tribunal which have all been admitted.

Obi’s lawyers say they have documents from 6 more states to tender and had requested for the case to continue today, Saturday, June 3, 2023, but Tinubu, APC and INEC lawyers pleaded with the court to adjourn till Monday, June 5, 2023.

The submission of Certified True Copies of Form EC8A of 12 States, so far, is totally different from the expectation of the respondents’ lawyers, and even the general public, who had thought that Obi would be using the IREV as his primary source of evidence.

But with the submission of the true electoral materials from the contested states, the judges would now be afforded with the true picture of the reality of what happened on Election Day which would now help them to determine if the winner announced by INEC is truly the winner of the election or was someone else denied his victory.

Nlfpmod
Mynd44

Lol

Even UN is respecting the Federal Character that Buhari failed to respect in his 8 years of disaster.

Still Tinubu Owambe boys cheered him on.

Tinubu is already toeing the path of Buhari by running an all-Yoruba government.

I once worked at a place where I earned 70k as salary and had to leave after I found out that I could barely survive on it through the month not to talk of savings.

It was there I came to the conclusion that the Minimum Wage in Nigeria should be 150k.

See eh, the governors that are being begged to pay ordinary 30k salary to married men with children, are heartless.

Like, what is 30k? Still you don’t want to pay it.

I don’t even want to talk about those who owe salaries.

Nigeria is a trauma causing center🤦.

The 19 Resident Electoral Commissioners that these idiots approved their appointments few months to the election were all APC members with some of them having the poster of their campaign for a political position under APC flying around then. But what did they do? They went ahead and told them to bow and go even though it was clearly unconstitutional.

They approved loan request of Buhari which has brought us to our knees right now.

The only people that would be impressed by Lawan and Gbajabiamila led 9th NASS are Tinubu Owambe boys.

Saraki remains the best Senate President so far.

Acekidc4:
Yes please help us lecture this Obidients rodents what fuel Subsidy is and the benefits of removing it. Most of them don't know, they're just Shouting Upandan on how Tinubu is Wicked for Removing Fuel Subsidy.

Still waiting for your answer 🤔

Corrupt idiot!

Nobody can be like Peter Obi.

OAFMods:
You remember ibori looting but you brain is dead from remembering looting by Abaribe Kalu n Theodore Orji Elechi Anyim n other criminals from your tribe.

And do you see us worshiping those guys you mentioned the way you are worshiping Ibori?

kokorokoman:
please were you on nairaland when obi was governor?
even anambrarians wanted to kill him with insults here, he performed abysmally as a governor.
of the three past govts in anambra obi is the worse of all, three of the four major contestants in the last elections were past governors in their respective states, name kwakwaso, tinubu and obi, of the three of them obi also is the worse of them of all in terms of economy and infrastructural development.
so how do you want such a person to come second in an election against people that are obviously better than.

So Kwankwaso was also ahead of him in the election?🤔

FreeStuffsNG:
No single non-Igbo appointed. Smh.

No South west State Governor, including my Governor, HE Sanwo-Olu, must ever appoint Igbo or any non-Yoruba except the Governor of his or her state has appointed a Yoruba first.

Since 1999, South East state Governors keep appointing only Igbo of their own but want other states to appoint Igbo. That is a recipe for injustice and kolewek.

For justice, appoint non-Igbo first and non Igbo states will appoint Igbo, collaborating by reciprocation. Gone are those days of injustice when you hold your own 100% and want to collect that of others in Yorubaland then turn around to work against the dominant political aspirations of the Yoruba when they demand you give them from your own.

Gov. Alex Otti , appoint a Yoruba today if you want an Abian to get an appointment in Yorubaland! If you don't, for justice and fairness, nothing for Abians in Yorubaland too.

The cheating will no longer be tolerated. Give us land in Igboland if you want land in Yorubaland. Give us appointment in Igboland if you want appointment in Yorubaland. That is collaborating by reciprocation.

I was wondering why you were the one that was posting Otti’s appointments. I didn’t know it’s because you wanted to spewing this ethnic trash on it.

Ask yourself, how many Yoruba people are resident in Abia State or you want him to go and harvest a Yoruba from Ogbomoso and make him a Special Adviser so that he would please characters like you?

Isobug:
Exactly
Imagine what the idiot wrote up there. That could make an uniformed Person believe those rubbish without thinking twice

That’s it.

Since I discovered that a lot of things I understand or decipher easily is actually a big work for others, I started taking the setting of the right narratives more seriously.

You’d be surprised at the weak minds that the trash he wrote up there would convince.

Isobug:
This oponu Amotekum miscreant never get sense? The era of your irrelevant propaganda is over. You are wasting your time and resources writing irrelevancies.
Okoro means male issue in Igbo land, Incase you think it has an evil connotation. Half humans like you are one of the reasons we're on here on Nairaland

Exactly!

So many times I’ve thought of abandoning Nairaland, when I remember that these idiots would now have the free ride to push whatever propaganda they like, I just remain here to make they don’t succeed in propagating the kind of lies their fathers propagated in the 60s, 70s and 80s with their media platforms.

AntiZikist:
I have always maintained that the Igbo has always been the greatest enemy of the SS and no other Igbo politician confirms this like Orji Uzor Kalu who in his inordinate ambition to emerge as DSP has aligned with the northern hawks standing firmly against Akpabio emerging as SP.

Orji Uzor Kalu knows he stands no chance emerging as SP so he has now pitched himself to the Yari campaign team in hopes of being rewarded with the DSP position.

This isn't new to Igbo politics as the north always sees the Igbo as willing allies to thwart southern interests since the inglorious days of Zik.

Now it is not enough for this Congo Judas to openly come out to oppose a Southern SP campaign for his own inordinate ambitions but Orji Uzor Kalu made pronouncements against the Ministry of Niger Delta which he said must be scrapped. Orji made that statement as part of his pledge and allegiance to northern hawks who opposed then President Yaradua's amnesty program and creation of Niger Delta ministry. It is important to highlight here that Igbo legislators aligned with the north against what they said was pandering to Niger Delta demands.

Out of all the moribund and cash sink MDAs , why was it that Orji Kalu singled out only the Ministry of Niger Delta affairs ? That alone should be confirmation of what I have been screaming my head off here for the past 5ys that the Igbo remain the greatest enemy of the SS since 1953!

My opposition to Peter Obi was hinged on this Igbo meddlesome and constant attempt to act as the spoiler of the SS .

I was damn right in my own submission to reject Obi (and every other Igbo politician and people at large) owing to their Zikist ambitions to corral and steal the resources of the Niger Delta under the banner of either a Central govt or their dead Biafra project.

If you are from SS and still some how have pity or political support for the Igbo, you need your brains examined.

You are nothing but a divisive element commissioned to further the divisive narrative of those who threatened by the unbreakable brotherhood between the Southeast and Southsouth.

Igbos are the problem of Southsouth but Igbos stuck their heads out for Jonathan even to a sinking point. Their support for Jonathan caused Buhari to hate and punish them for 8 years but they have never regretted that decision but you are here spewing nonsense.

Where was the Yoruba when the Igbos were voting for a Southsouth son to remain as president?

Is Orji Uzor Kalu no longer the darling of the north and Yoruba?

I thought you guys said he and his other fellow efulefus are the only reasonable Igbo men alive? What changed?

Is it also Orji Uzor Kalu that has gotten Tinubu to withdraw his support for Akpabio as reported in several tabloids?

And lastly, you are not from Southsouth.

fergie001:
Did you not factor that there will be rigging in the 2023 election?
Every politician in the Country, Obi inclusive, knew there was going to be some % of rigging, so it isn't strange to me at all.

Rigging will continue to reduce hopefully, but it will remain there. Atiku & Tinubu can also argue their votes were suppressed elsewhere. See for the umpteenth time, if CPC, ANPP, nPDP, APGA-faction, AC had not come together, the PDP will remain in power today.

If PDP & LP go into 2027 separately, they will meet a definite outcome, DEFEAT. It is the obvious truth.

Maybe I’m just too straightforward that I tend to believe people when they say something.

I believed INEC when they said that they would upload the election result to the IREV from polling units. I also believed them because they had done that in Anambra, Ekiti and Osun. And had they done that, the election would have been almost impossible to rig.

fergie001:
He is in control of the Party as it stands.

I don't know who will better him in that Party. Dankwambo cannot even win his NE cumulatively.

Tambuwal is from the NW, how many Southern States will he win? It will only take the 'unseen' hands of the Presidency to initiate that coup.

LP and the Presidency are parallel lines. As long as the PDP and LP go into elections with different Candidates, it is a sweet and delicious ride for the APC.

KD already showed you where the North will go, if they don't go APC.

@the italicised, what will make them support Obi if they get a refined Candidate in their own Party?

@ the bolded, that will be in Southern Nigeria/Benue/Plateau not core-North. It will always be his albatross. The PDP will likely field another Northern Candidate in 2027.

How can Obi win any NWern State?
How can he win any NErn State? That is 13 already!

I don't blame Obi. It is not just about himself, it is where he is from. So, I pity him and myself inclusive.

If God keeps Tinubu alive, it is still 2031.

garfield1

Obi won Taraba in the northeast but it was rigged for Atiku.

Obi got more votes in Adamawa, Bauchi and Gombe than was allotted to him.

Are you saying that if INEC had allowed for transparency in the last election that the outcome wouldn’t have been different?

Raheeqilmaktoom:
The only right alignment here is some PDP members working for Obi which is:

1. A tall order.

Obi's only hope is for the PDP to capitulate to him which is highly impractical, the PDP would rather present a candidate and pull off the same thing he did on them in 2023 than provide him a pathway.

It's going to be a war of attrition as they call it in military - a war where you continuously take pounds of flesh from each other with no winner between you save APC, in this case.

2. They lack the spread and capacity to effect any meaningful impact.

The 2023 demographics show the bigger north, the SW and some SS areas going with APC, if the president performs, that combination will stand - even stronger, and there's no way PDP, LP can beat that.

Nobody, I say it again, nobody, voted for Tinubu in the Southsouth.

Or could you be referring to Rivers State?

Acekidc4:
Yes please help us lecture this Obidients rodents what fuel Subsidy is and the benefits of removing it. Most of them don't know, they're just Shouting Upandan on how Tinubu is Wicked for Removing Fuel Subsidy.

And why are you calling Obidients rodents 🤔?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pe6OxijhQc

I’ve had to explain to two of my friends in details, what subsidy means. And I’m not talking about illiterates, no, both of them are graduates and quite politically aware but they have had poor understanding of what fuel subsidy truly means and why it is such a big deal and why successive governments have been battling to remove it.

The experience informed me that there could be a lot of Nigerians, like these my two friends, who are joining the discussion about fuel subsidy removal and its harsh effect on their lives without basic understanding of what it actually means.

So, I made a little YouTube search and bumped into this video which feel did a great justice to the meaning of fuel subsidy and the issues surrounding it and I felt to share and educate other Nigerians so they could have clear understanding of the issue at hand and why subsidy is a cankerworm that can no longer be retained which calls for why every citizen should support the government to remove it irrespective of your political divide.

Nlfpmod and Mynd44, I think this will be of great service to a lot of Nairalanders and Nigerians at large.

Dsalvo:
Objective conclusion not relevant here. The previous Government made no budgetary allocation for fuel subsidy payment. That is the true state of affairs Tinubu announced truthfully.

If Nigerians are progressive, the next step is to lobby the current government to ensure the extreme sufferings of Nigerians, over fuel subsidy removal, is alleviated asap but they should still partner with Mr,President to insist fuel subsidy is gone and must remain gone.

All this talk of no provision for subsidy in the budget, have guys ever heard of Supplementary Budget?

Tinubu could have drawn up a supplementary budget that retain at least 50% subsidy payment for the next 6 months by which time we would hope Dangote Refinery will start refining fuel.

And that’s some correction for you there, Dangote Refinery has not started refining fuel. According to Dangote himself, Nigerians should expect first refined product from the refinery by July or August. But experts say the refinery won’t be ready until first quarter of 2024. I go with the experts.

yemmit90:
Hmmmmm, I will be very objective with election matter here. Do you think Peter Obi got requires votes in NW and NE to stand any chance, not to even talk about 25% spread in 23 states? Do you know that the votes of these 2 zones alone swallowed almost entire votes in the South?

Do you think is logical for a party that don't have party agents in over 50% of polling units to be claiming rigging?

Will you still say that after Obi, Atiku, and Kwankwaso who were formally under the same party PDP shared a hooping 14m votes as against APC 8m votes, they still rigged the election?

Will you say as big as APC with formidable structure cannot pull up 8m votes as against their harsh rival PDP that pull a total of 14m votes?

Do you witness what happened at tribunal today when LP Lawyers presented supposed eveidences from 20 LGA in Ekiti state. The state that has only 16 LGA?

In my opinion, I don't think they actually rigged this election, the only place I think Wike ignorantly manipulated result for APC is Rivers state. APC actually lost this election by wide margin, what gave them undeserving victory was disintegration of PDP.

I hate it when you guys proffer the balkanization of PDP as the reason APC won as though the voters of APC remained unchanged since 2015. If that is the case, then why didn’t APC score the 15million they scored in 2015 or the 13million they scored in 2019?

Again, do you find nothing wrong in the fact that INEC reneged on their promises and guidelines, and shut down the IREV that would have ensured transparent inflow of votes let’s see how much you people’s talk of the Northwest votes would have faired transparently?

The truth is that Atiku, Kwankwaso and Tinubu canceling themselves out in your almighty Northwest is the reason Obi won this election.

Obi scored over 290k votes in Kaduna according to INEC result but LP insists they did more than that to give them 25% in Kaduna, a northwest state.

Obi won in Taraba, even according to votes on IREV, but his votes were allocated to Atiku, and maybe Tinubu. Taraba is the northeast.

Obi also did well, and most likely did above 25% in Adamawa but votes were rigged for Atiku. Adamawa is Atiku’s home state in the northeast too.

So also was Obi’s votes viciously manipulated in Bauchi, Gombe and Borno of northeast. In a form EC8A sighted online on Election Day, Obi scored about 184 votes in a single polling unit in Bauchi Local Government of Bauchi State. But when the result of the entire local government was computed, your INEC allocated just 140 votes to Obi.

Are those the things you are defending?

Remember, I’m still in the north o! I’ve even talked about southern states where even a PDP agent said on National Television that by the result in their possession, Obi scored about 930,000 votes. Those votes were viciously slashed and allocated to Tinubu. Or you think that’s a made up story?

Let’s not talk about the systematic rigging that went on in other Southwest states which resulted in over voting in some states of the region.

See, Tinubu lost the 2023 election woefully.