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Naijahelm:
Former Aviation Minister, Femi Fani-Kayode has blasted Minister of labour, Chris Ngige for his recent comments about the Igbos.

Chris Ngige in a recent interview, said, the Igbos should not complain about marginalization because they didn't invest and vote for President Buhari.

Femi Fani-Kayode in his reply called the former Anambra Governor, Chris Ngige, an unrepentant slave, that he has sold his soul to the devil and he is eating crumbs from his masters table.

http://www.naijahelm.com/2017/05/femi-fani-kayode-blasts-chris-ngige-for.html?m=1





https://twitter.com/realFFK/status/868040785836597248

I agree with FFK 1000℅.

Again, we have a court jester like Ngige, a professional fool, an Aso Rock domestic goat, telling us that Igbos should bow down to the milkthief, not even the cows that produce the milk, in order to get droplets of milk.

What a very shameful specimen of human being.

seunmsg:
Is Buhari the one planning the coup or what? When will you wailing ipobs become reasonable? There is a rumour of military coup and you still want to blame Buhari for being the one planning to overthrow his own government. Does it sound logical to you?

Oh gosh!
I see that your eyes are still glued tight, hard to open.

You don't seem to get it.
BUHARI is the trojan Horse.

Buhari and his fellow feudal oligarchs feel that they must keep power by any means, democratic or military.
Now that Buhari is too incapacitated to govern, the only clever way his feudal kinsmen would guarantee staying in power and subverting the Constitutional provisions would be to create anxiety, chaos , even violence throughout much of the country, and then VOILÀ! The military invites themselves in to RESTORE order , ..by suspending the Constitution.

Do you get the plot right now ?
Burutai's was just flying a kite, to test and gauge the atmosphere, to condition our minds for what might very well be a well planned, inevitable eventuality.

Now, why should we not blame Buhari for what is turning out to be a trip back in time ?
If Buhari had taken the path of honour and patriotic duty to resign and return the Trust reposed on him by Nigerian voters, would be here speculating on the impending chaos or disaster at our doorsteps ?
Try to think rationally for once, and do away with this childish name-calling.

fulanimafia:
Classic coming from the powder ferrying universally renowned world developers doing us proud from Asia to the Serengeti https://s27.postimg.org/hq4ksz1ib/ZQ7_A2_G6.gif

Yeah. Congrats to you that your kinsmen are celebrated as the third (or is it second) deadliest terrorist group in the world.

And I wonder how many of my kinsmen are regularly beheaded in good ol Saudi Arabia for ferrying powder , as you call it.

And you have the temerity to speak where I do ?

gberra:
Point of correction; He did not surrender power,rather he Transferred power. Besides which section of the constitution stipulates he cannot decide anything on behalf of Nigerians?

That's the part of the Constitution that mandates a transfer of power to the vice President if and when the President becomes physically or mentally incapacitated to perform his duties as president.

Now, is there any doubts in anyone's mind that Buhari has become incapacitated, and unable to discharge his presidential duties ?

IamaNigerianGuy:
Government is not run like your Fathers house. But I would not expect you to understand that given your username.
Buhari is not my Father and power is not his property.
Buhari did not "give power" to Osibanjo. The constitution forced him to relinquish it until he can prove his fitness.

In Southern Nigeria we aspire to constitutional democracy not feudalism or benevolent autocracy; and whether you like it or not, we shall drag your backward northern people and society - kicking and screaming if need be - into the 21st century.

Thank you very much for reminding him and his like , the people that time forgot.
They never fail to make Nigeria a laughing stock.

What a load of crap.

So the President is undergoing hospital treatment in London, the DETAILS of which Kachikwu DOESN'T know, even though he is a cabinet minister. And then the same slowpoke is very sure that the same President is working and having meetings, I presume, from his hospital bed ?

What kind of fools do these Abuja people think we all are ?

seunmsg:
Any military coup at this point will lead to the disintegration of the country. The earlier the propagators of the coup get this fact, the better for them.

Ha ha ha.

Can we get you now agree that Buhari, as widely predicted, is a harbinger of chaos , and that support for that dishonest faker was the biggest mistake anyone could have made ?

Are your zombie eyes quickly clearing ?

You're free to come home to your senses , prodigal sons and daughters.

Fxxx you Unongo.
The North has held power for most of Nigeria's history.

If the North remains very underdeveloped as a result of the wickedness of your parasitic elites, then surely that is an indictment against the North, proof that the North should not be trusted with political power.

Deicide:
Am not talking about maths only in maths you only need to know it secrete then it becomes simple

I use math as an example because the reason math skills are normally used to measure intelligence is because understanding numbers and their relationships mproves logical reasoning, rationality , and of course, self awareness.

Deicide:
But even with this poor Maths teachers people still pass right? The maths teacher asks a question and people still answer right but wait there is a guy at the back who seems not to be getting anything from what the teacher is saying. that's what am talking about of course this guy can improve his maths skills like me, for example, i would not understand some topic except you break it down very well for me or use real world examples to explain. so the point would be why do those people understand the poor maths teacher and the guy at the backs is finding it hard to understand?

Aside genetic dispositions, it could very depend on how the COGNITIVE SKILLS were developed at infancy.
We know that poor nutrition and hunger as well as malaria, for example, can negatively affect early COGNITIVE development, which would inevitably show in some learning disabilities or poor math skills.

Deicide:
you guys are not getting me yes everyone is equipped with unlimited intelligence am not arguing that my point is the amount of time it would take Mr. A to understand something Mr. B might take just a tiny seconds to understand it.That's the intelligence am talking about

Let me give you an example.

Math tests, standard math tests are usually used to test or measure intelligence.
People good in math are usually labeled "intelligent' , while people who are very poor in math are usually labeled dumb or OLODO(apologies to Deepsight).
Now, as a result , many potentially bright young people give up on themselves and future possibilities very early in their youth because of their poor math skills.

Using myself as an example, I realized late in secondary school that poor math teachers were the main problems associated with math phobia. I needed math in my career choice, so I motivated myself to conquer the phobia and devote my time to embrace math. After much much practice, I noticed that my brain/ mind began to organize numbers in my own custom unique patterns, and I began to be able to do complex calculations and math problems with greater ease over time,.a skill l still retain.

To put this in biological context, we have the two hemispheres of the brain, the instinctive and the logical, always fighting for supremacy. The instinctive part is the older, more primitive , rigid, very short focused, more animalistic part of the brain that was very useful in the earlier stages of our evolution, when we solely relied on instincts and primitive impulses for our very survival.
This instinctive side always wants to call the shots and have its
way.
In the side, we have the more recently evolved logical , rational part of the brain that is constantly challenging the status quo. This part of the brain also perceives in numbers and spatial terms.

In summary, with practice, the logical and rational part of the brain can overshadow the instinctive, primitive part of brain , thereby increasing logical reasoning ability, rationality , clarity and a simplified way of dealing with complex issues.

This dovetails with the thrust of the OP and the scientific conclusions quoted : that religion is part of the primitive instincts, and that a a breakaway from instinctive primitive behavior is an improvement in intelligence.

PastorAIO:
Olboi, you don summarize the beginning and the end of the old tin. Clap for yourself.

I wish I could put those words on a plaque and hang it on my wall. Abeg dash me copyright.

Copyright granted, good ol sire.

Deicide:
No i don't think intelligence can be increased it can only be worked upon so the person might seem more knowledgeable but this doesn't mean the IQ increased or anything. and by the way intelligence by IQ is how fast someone can understand something and then retain the information.

Have you heard of Neural Plasticity ?
In layman's terms, " practice makes perfect ".

This simply means that if you practice anything , any Skill long enough, you will gradually improve your ability, become good at it, and able to completely master or a genius at it, any Skill at all.

In other words, every one is inbued with unlimited intelligence cranial dexterity, and under the right enabling environment, the brain or mind is naturally malleable enough to exponentially increase in intelligence or stagnate.

I made this similar argument earlier in the week in another thread, that our natural habitats in subsahara Africa, with our tropical vegetation and age old cultural norms had always been impediments to the growth and nurturing of Natural Curiosity and Intellectualism, and hence, our shortcomings in literary works, architecture and scientific achievements.

akintom:
* consciously and subconsciously, this is the mental platform, from which 98% of Christians on NL, discuss the concept of religious beliefs from.

* when the Roman Catholic Church, who originally concocted the Christian religion, is increasingly admitting to the intelligent and intellectual honesty, of Bible, been largely metaphorical.

*this position of Roman Catholic Church and other liberal Christian groups, didn't come on basis of "godly humility", but the compulsion of scientific evidence that incontrovertible.

* now, if most Christians on this NL, remain glued to the idea, that the bible is literarily true, how can one possibly engage such folks in rational, logical and intelligent discussion?

The problem, I always say, is that the so-called Nigerian Christians hardly ever understand what Christianity is , how it began and how it had evolved over the ages.
Nigerians see and use Christianity as just another convenient superstition to replace the superstitions of their forefathers.

OtemAtum:
You mean as Kumuyi prayed for his wife to cure her of cancer and the prayer ended of speeding up her death? And the same Kumuyi cured another man's wife of Ebola

Faith is a mystery.
The more silly it gets, the deeper it goes.

These Nigeria evangelical parasites travel out of the country for expensive comprehensive Medical checkups and treatments, and them come home to tell their brainless sheeple to pray fervently for good health and healing.

I have exhausted all the disgust in my being for these Tapeworms.

DeepSight:
Such as the man who asserts that religious establishments in Nigeria have no contribution to Intellectual Development? You even specifically mentioned two men who have established universities and many schools and you stated that they have no contribution to intellectual development. Are you mad?

And then someone points out the existence of a University to you and for that, you call him a child?

You are a weak, cowardly, infantile m.oron, suffering from erectile dysfunction, period.

Which two men established universities ?

Are you referring to these social parasites that sap resources from the poor, and then use same to build for profit universities for the children of the elite ?
Are you referring to these Tapeworms , these self- confessed witch hunters and purveyors of magical thinking, fear and blackmail as having contributed to intellectual development ?

How many free or subsidized daycare center or primary schools have any of these parasites ever established, even for the exclusive benefit of their local parish members?

These men promote and sell fear and then great profit from same. That is the antithesis of intellectual development.


You are really olodo, Depardo
Pls stop insulting our collective intelligence.

IgbosAreGreat:

Same thoughts came to my mind.

DeepSight:
This is stuppid.

Shut up Depardo.
We all know who is the OLODO here.

KingEbukasBlog:
You asked for their contributions to intellectualism . I gave you a few important ones and your response is this ? Just admit that what you thought was true is not verisimilitudinous in any way or form .

In the near future when CU would rub shoulders with the world's best , you'd still ask what Oyedepo has contributed to intellectualism.

Ahh!
I sometimes forget that you are such a child.

KingEbukasBlog:
They have universities . CU by Oyedepo has an ultra-modern research development center (you can see publications of researches on the university's website ) . CU has a vision of raising new generation of leaders . We take special courses on Total Man Concept (Personal Development ) and Leadership .

You don't have any point sir . Ignorance about these things maybe ?

Gosh.
You are such a child.

DeepSight:
Your desperation on hang this on the neck of Religion is pathetic.

Religious people have been and remain at the very forefront of most of mankinds intellectual accomplishments.

Religious people from where exactly ?
Nigeria ?

You guys are so eager to defend religion, that you completely miss the point .
The religious people , the minds that built the ancient monasteries for study and careful contemplation of nature and the universe are far far different than the charlatans of of our clime that pollute the our mental landscape with superstitions for profit.
The religious system that established the Collegia are far far different from our current parasitic , religious fraud market where money is exchanged for stone age superstitions.

I am specifically about superstitions, both traditional and religious, and how it shapes the African mind, and impedes the expansion of his intellectual potentials.

At least the Roman Catholic Church, being the oldest chancery in the world, is a promoter of education and intellectualism. They run school systems and school boards in almost every country in the world.

But what about our local brewed versions of Christianity, championed by the Adeboyes, the Oyedepos, etc ? What do they add to education, science and intellectual development ?
How can they , when they depend upon and feed fat on the promotion of magical thinking and superstitions ?
Is it any wonder that NONE of Nigeria's mega religious cults runs a free or subsidized educational system of any type, even for their members ?

Remove your head from the sand and call a spade a spade, sire.

Religion is superstition, and superstition, deeply embedded superstitions are the bane of intellectual development in sub Sahara Africa.
Simple.

Trudax:
Does anyone see a correlation here?

Cc Dalaman Plaetton Hahn Kingebukasblog

Straight line correlation.

KingEbukasBlog:
The poverty rate and adversities being faced in Atheist countries who are intolerant of religion are out of this world E.g North Korea and Cuba .

Have been to any of these two countries ?

I am betting you that on a per capita basis, a North Korean and a Cuban live better than a better quality of life a Nigerian or any country in sub Sahara African, except for south Africa and Angola.

KingEbukasBlog:
Continue promulgating your false dichotomy - Religion or Science - whereas the greatest minds and most decorated scientists past and present are religious people . Not just religious people but people who acknowledged the existence of God . Catholics brought modern science ; religious people brought philosophy ; everything concerning intellectualism was mostly founded by religious people , people who believed in God .

I still don't know why you pride yourself as an atheist . Atheism is vapid , soporific and has offered very little to the development of humanity - that's me acknowledging atheist philosophers and scientists who made picayune contributions to the advancement of knowledge- when compared to what the proponents of theism/deism have done .

The African mind is wired to be against intellectualism from childhood ? Where did civilization which has transformed humanity start from ? Africa . Who kickstarted it ? Africans . The oldest existing and operational educational institution in the world is the University of Karueein, founded in 859 AD in Fez, Morocco . Mensa Musa , the richest man that has ever lived , arguably though , is responsible for the growth of education in Mali and in Africa as far back as the 13th century. What about Ethiopian philosophy that was influenced by the ancient Greek philosophy ?

I think its high time you managed your drinking habit sir . Facts don't seem to agree with you at all .

All the crap you just spewed here have very little to do with the issues being addressed here.
It's amazing how your mind works, totally and perhaps cowardly evading the thrust of my argument , but attacking me instead . Amazingly, the very issue being discussed here.

Let try to break it down in chewable , plebeian form for you.

My argument is that culture and social environment puts too much emphasis on magical thinking, the kind of magical thinking that , for example, evangelical Churchianity , proliferate and actually feed upon. Nigeria is greatest example.

In a situation, where , for example, you had more than 90 different Churchian religious fellowships in your University campus, what room is left, who is left for unbiased intellectual pursuits, scientific curiosity, thinking beyond the religious Babble , asking critical questions about existence and the universe ?

You , perhaps are the best example of a system of education that soaks and drowns Young precious minds with garbage, stone age garbage, the equivalent of depleted uranium of the mental kind.
And I actually think you're naturally smart, but MENTALLY encumbered with unintellectual magical thinking.

Now, imagine youths much less smarter than yourself. Imagine what religious indoctrination greatly narrows and messes up their worldview.

ooman:
Plaetton, Deepsight, long time.

Yeah Man, longest time.
Nice to see ya again.

Trudax:
Why do you think they aren't genetic when we know that smart parents give birth to smart kids? Also, since behaviors and physical traits are heritable, hence genetic, why is intelligence any different?

There has been a long scientific debate about nature vs nurture.
NATURE gives you, everyone, certain dispositions. But NURTURE( social/ cultural environment) can either foster or impede the expression of these dispositions.

Our social/ cultural setup impedes the intellectual potential.

Just look at Nigeria, for example, country that produces the best in almost Field of human endeavor the Diaspora, but has very serious, very chronic intellectual dearth back home, with everyone, old and young , still beholden to stone age superstitions from the middle East, embracing and hugging them as if they were our very own.

Look at our educational setup back home ,where my child's biology teacher, rather than taking and tasking her , step by step, on the wonder of photosynthesis, would rather the young minds that god is responsible for photosynthesis.

Or the 90 or so religious fellowships at kingebukasblog Delta State university.
Can you see that as with our forefathers, so it is today or even worse on the continual war against intellectualism in our society.

The African mind is rewired to be anti intellectual right from childhood.
Look at how many charlatans like Adeboye, Oyedepo, Mbaka there are in every nook and corner of Nigeria promoting magical thinking, an open war against intellectualism.

Trudax:
Cc

Catfishbilly, hardmirror, Hahn, Jackbizzle, johnydon22, plaetton, loj, dalaman, deepsight,

I would appreciate your comments on this thread.

Hhhhmmm.

It's difficult to honestly answer this question without appearing self-deprecating.

Going by the letter of the question, my answer is yes( and many will come for my head).

Intellectually inferior in the sense that we , our entire cultural setups are somewhat impediments to intellectual exploration and expansion.

Our intellectual shortcomings are by NO means, and let me emphasize it, BY No means genetic, but due to accumulated and entrenched cultural/religious norms and habits.

N:B
And let me emphasize that I personally make a distinction between intelligence and intellectual expression.
The difference between the two are culture.
Every human is embued with intelligence. Intellectualism is the expression of that innate intelligence.

Some cultures foster the expression of intelligence, intellectualism, while many cultures, such as we have in subsahara Africa, impedes the expression of that innate intelligence.

I hope the above makes some sense.
I am not even sure it does.

urheme:


Deepsight doesn't exist..........he is just an illusion...I take a pause... or did he not see what truthislight typed.

An illusion that feels pain........... and can express affection...um

Illusion....what then is its usefulness ......He cannot answer that so fast.










USELESS!!!!!!

I wonder whether this so-called illusion is created by the so-called one infinite source, the infinite mind, or, it it's just part of the grand illusion.

If someone claims to be living in an illusion, then based on what reality does one make such an assertion ?
In other words, to understand an illusion or make a case for an illusion , one must know what is real. The two must be distinguishable.

To repeatedly shoult that everything is an illusion, including your very thoughts on the matter, seems to me like just a walk into the twilight zone of mild ,, eehhm, eehhm, ..

texanomaly:
Are you okay? It seems, from your recent posts, that you are going completely off the rails. *concerned*

And I thought I was the only one who noticed.

Deepsight has gone full blown OLODO.

nerodenero:
Nigerian Pastors will never try this. It can only happen in Kenya, Zimbabwe and that xenophobic country. Our pastors love life, they don't practice what they preach

Nigerian pastors know that they are frauds , and are only in the god racket for cash and sex.

Some of these East African Pastors actually believe in the Crap that they are selling or mentally ill.

hahn:
Awwww. If only someone had told him that the Jewish god is non existent or incompetent at best this wouldn't have happened

Good news is that the alligators had a large breakfast. Everything is God's will

Yeah, at least god answered the prayers of hungry alligators.

Aufbauh:
God is not a magician; God works miracle because there is a need, and not a magic originator that guarantee show off.

Lol.
So god is just another Merlin.
Lol.