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dragonking3:
The likes of Omenka, modath, quotasystem, sarrki, hungerbad and other zombies will never see this thread. Buhari is just heartless. No money for soldiers sent to war but there was more than enough money for expensive wedding for his daughter.

I have always said it that he is the biggest hypocrite.
He deceived the poor , ordinary Northerners that he was one of them.
Now, we know that he is just one of the oligarchs, a bad one at that.

Laughing out loudly.

Grass fetish indeed.

Importing grass, cutting grass with several hundred million Naira, and now grassroots budget of N400m.

Na wa for these clowns.

Everyone can see now, from every side, every aspect of leadership and administration, that Buhari is a monumental failure, an embarrassment to governance.

Funny that Jesus, aka, god jnr., Supposedly shed his blood to save Christians,. And yet the average Christian still fear their own shadows.

JackBizzle:
People seeing no difference between pentecostal pastors and MMM guiders.
People calling out private jet spending by pastors
People rejecting Church weddings for court and traditional.
People from muslim backgrounds fed up with the hypocrisy of sharia and terrorism




I never thought that so many Nigerians can wise up. Change (not Buharis change oo!) is coming!

Hallelujah! The ungodly ministry is moving.


Special shout out to the haters who tried to stop us and failed;
-KingEbukasBlog
-winner01
-Sciencewatch
-4everGod
-Damogull
-felixomor

There is a great disturbance in the FARCE.

Omeokachie:
He whom the gods will kill they first make mad.


Okorocha seems to have lost it.


Even in Cross River where they declare such holidays, it is with a view at revenue generation which comes in through influx of tourists. But here we have a government that is sending people away and grounding the ministries and other organs of government for a whooping 3weeks!

This governor is fxxing insane, seriously.

We have never seen such an erratic character in governance.

The fxxard deludes himself that he is an emperor.

KingEbukasBlog:
Nature is one of the numerous evidences God exists . Atheists are the ones denying this . And their reasons for refusing to accept this are ludicrous , puerile and untenable.

Have you seen the arguments against the existence of God by the first band of Greek atheists ? The foundation of atheism is weak , no wonder its experiencing massive decline worldwide .

Christianity started 500 years later and has over 2 billion adherents and is expected to hit over 3 billion in 34 years time .

Laughing out loudly.

You must be living in an alternate universe, an imaginary universe that you keep creating as you go.

That's the great thing about believing in invisible things.
You make sh.it up , any sh.it, as you go.

Anas09:
Can you see? You are ignored. The purpose is archived.

Lol.

E still de pain am.

KingEbukasBlog:
Atheism is a man made idea started by Diagoras of Melos

Really?
I guess your Bible must have been referring to him when it pointed out how nervous it was about people who sayeth there is no god.
But how come Diagoras of Melos was not mentioned in the Bible ?

PDBonline:
* That was just a post asking you to see from another perspective!

That's exactly my point.

You choose to see reality from an IMAGINARY, make-believe perspective.

I don't.

PDBonline:
Just ASSUME for a minute that God is real and THINK about the Sun constantly available to fulfill its God-given role. Your perspective will change.

Bingo! !

The key WORDS here being ' ASSUME ' and 'THINK'.

You have just proven, without knowing it, that God is NOTHING but a product of Imagination and Wishful Thinking.

I rest my case.

PDBonline:
We pay attention and give time to everything we consider important. God expects that knowing Him personally should be even more important to you and He sends people to you in different ways to let you know this. All you need to do is to ask Him to reveal Himself if He is real and to actively seek evidence for His existence not waiting for someone else do that for you.

The bullshit is very strong in this post.

Just look at this crap.

How come we don't just sit back and ask the Sun, our Glorious Orb, to reveal itself to us individually ?

Just imagine for a minute what the world would be like if the Sun, our life giver was invisible and impervious to scientific investigation

Every imaginable crackpot would wake up and shout " hallelujah, the Sun revealed itself to me in a dream, with all its life-giving radiance ".., and the Sun said thus...., and the Sun demands thus...

And then, few days, months or centuries later, another crackpot does the same,.and over and over again, until we have 1,000 conflicting versions of the SUN's revelations, and then the ensuing wars and conflicts.
Sounds familiar ?

PDBonline:
It's like if it cannot be seen or proven, it is neither real nor important.

A little reasoning shows these are not true. Many things couldn't be proven, until someone deliberately did a research. Some of the findings are saving lives and changing society today--- for those who choose to believe they work.
We have the negative consequences of ignorance and complacency too. Knowledge must be sought and believed when found for it to be useful.

Geez.
You wrote all this , without seeing the contradictions therein ?

Let me give a famous quote that I have requoted several times to intelligent Nairaland theists.

" It is better to begin with doubts, and then strive to arrive at certainty, than it is to begin with certainty, and then later struggle with doubts ".

By believing in the existence of god based on faith, without proof, you theists are putting the Cart Before The Horse.

Whereas, we atheists are simply waiting, and in most cases, searching for the proof of God's existence.
And, we are in no rush.
We have all of eternity until we find proof.

PDBonline:
The real issue is not the proving; the real issue is the attitude of many atheists towards God's existence and those who believe He exist.

Well, there is nothing wrong with holding a belief, any belief.

After all, I and many others believe in the ToothFairy, and place our faith in the ToothFairy's grace.
Others believe in the Sun , as God.
Some people believe in a Flat Earth, etc etc.

But, and listen carefully, we don't see members of the Flat Earth Society waging wars or mounting pulpits to condemn those who don't share their beliefs.
No Flat Earther has knocked on my door or stopped me on the road to preach and threaten me with hellfire unless I repent and accept the Flat Earth as real.
You get my gist ?

The Abrahamic belief systems, being the most dominant belief system on Earth, are the most divisive, contradictory, conflict-ridden belief system on Earth.
Therefore, the abrahamic concepts of divinity need to be constantly challenged, repudiated, mocked and pushed back because the entire belief system rests on Stone-age myths, lethal Mythologies, I like to call them.

PDBonline:
God is Spirit, sun is not.

Bullshit !!
Now, pls start by defining ( factual definition, not imaginary definition) what Spirit is, and then do us the honor of PROVING how the Sun is not Spirit.
Thank you in advance.

What a fxxing joke this Okoro-ewu has turned out to be.

Which god had the good people of Imo state offended to have deserve this raging , despotic lunatic as governor ?

Funny how theists bother atheists to prove that god doesn't exist.

I mean, why can't the same theists ask atheists to prove that SUN doesn't exist ?

Reference:
The quality of government is indirectly proportional to the number and intensity of conflicts of whatever kind. It is one of the basis I personally rate leadership and that is why the Yaradua government and the Jonathan government rate higher in my opinion. When you look at the prosperity index of countries all over the world you can correlate them with peace and progress. Let us look at them side by side:

The United States with Mexico. One deals with crime equitably across the political divide, the other murders its criminal citizens while protecting its criminal officials.
Singapore with The Philippines. One treats its religious and ethnic diversity equitably, the other excludes its minorities and has been fighting insurgent wars for decades.
In Africa, the fastest growing economy is Rwanda, that has dealt with its civil war past and respects its citizens who were once called cockroaches.

On the other hand President Assad is winning the war against his own people, crushing them with foreign backed might and brutality. He will win the battle but will lose the war. You donot need a crystal ball to tell you that mass poverty and famine awaits Syria in the decades to come. You donot need a guru to tell you that starvation, not rebellion will put an end to Assad's regime. If you were an investor, whether local or foreign, will you put your money in Syria, no. So political stability by coercion is not a ticket to prosperity but disaster. Rather a negotiated settlement, social justice and the respect for all peoples is the only way to development.

The quality of leadership is thus in the ability to settle conflicts and keep your citizens satisfied and happy. That is the yardstick I use to rate leadership and since this democratic dispensation, Jonathan remains 1, Yaradua 2, Obasanjo 3, and Buhari 4. It is no surprise that the historical state of the economy follows this rating.

If this government can sort out its numerous political, sectional, religious wars it is fighting and igniting all over the place, it will soon discover that it has more than enough resources to prosper the country irrespective of oil prices.

Listening to Nigeria Info this morning, a caller lamented where 'all the money at government's disposal was going'. No subsidy payments, cannot pay salaries properly, is not executing meaningful capital projects, and has barely passed the 30 percent mark in budget execution and yet has borrowed huge amounts (4.5 trillion), has recovered loot and has plugged leakages of all kinds and I said,

There are hidden costs that are not budgetted which this government is spending heavily on: Miscellaneous internal conflicts. Obasanjo met a lower oil price and a worse debt portfolio yet we did not see these massive currency devaluations and economic turbulence in the transition from Abdulsalami to his government.

This government has just got to focus on the big picture, get a fire extinguisher and stop chasing rats. If it reacts to everything PDP, Ipob, MEND and whatever ae doing in these knee jerk manner, it will break this country and spill the tonic that holds the key to its health and prosperity going forward. It is very disapointing indeed.

@op
I was greatly enjoying your post, and still enjoyed and agreed with you , until you brought Syria and Assad into the mix.
That was a bad idea, and you were wrong. You presented the matter upside down.

In mentioning Assad and Syria, you sounded like a CNN echo chamber. That was pathetic.

I need to remind you that prior to US, Saudi Arabia and Israeli intervention in Syria to oust Assad, by training, Arming and funding Islamo-terrorists calling themselves Al-Nusra, Syrian opposition, moderate opposition ( whatever the fxxx that means) , that Syria was an exemplary bastion of religious tolerance, peace, progress and prosperity,..all under Assad.
Pls Do Not Ever Forget That.

And yes, of course, Syria would never be the same again.
That was the whole intention of US and it's allies; to oust Assad and make Syria into another Failed state, like Libya.

Libya , before and after US /Western intervention is still fresh on our minds.

Remember that old CNN song ?
" Look , Gaddafi is killing his own people, we must intervene for humanitarian reasons " .
Look at Libya today.

And right after Libya, it's " look, Assad is massacring his own people ".
All from the same imperialist playbook: Divide and conquer.

Therefore, Any sensible person should feel insulted when they hear the same song from the same old " Regime Change " playbook.

N:B
I didn't mean to derail this very good thread.
I just had to put the records straight.

DerideGull:
My previous post was not in anyway to denigrate the achievement of Alex but beg for certain degree of originality. Invention is not changing the profile of invented objects.

I beg to differ Sir.

Very few of modern inventions are 100% original, .but are mostly additions and improvements from other ideas and inventions.

There is hardly any part or features of a modern automobile that came to us in its original invented form.

Ideas and creativity evolve over time.
Imitation is a part of inventive drive.

Besides, the CAN-DO attitude of Alex is a priceless motivator for all the potential inventors and inventive geniuses out there , too afraid to step up and showcase their talents and passions.

Bump

Anas09:
PLEASE CHRISTIAN BRETHREN, ITS NOT EVERY OP THATS WORTH YOUR RESPONSE.

PLS SEE YOURSELF TOO INFORMED TO ENGAGE THIS OP BIKO.

LET HIM WALLOW.


IGNORE HIM PAINFULLY.

Lol.

Ee pain am.

LiberaDeus:
Guy no vex. Go to this thread and close it. https://www.nairaland.com/3523940/why-atheists-shift-burden-proof/10.

The christards are running riot and forming hercules there. No atheist has done anything there.

AM not an atheist so i wont argue on what i dont believe in. I can see the holes in their argument but i wont indulge them, am just teasing them.

That thread is not worth commenting ,. simply because the issue of burden of proof has been thoroughly debated in this forum,.and is very simple to put to rest.

One cannot logically prove a NEGATIVE proposition.

It is the one that makes a positive, affirmative proposition that is saddled with the burden of proof.

Any other argument beyond that is a waste of time.

MrMarvelous:
People are still hashtahhing #IStandWithUyo #UyoPrays...it's barely a week since the unfortunate tragedy that killed many people in your God's house, and you have the nerve to do all this? don't you theists have shame? You still have mind to be talking self. The silly cesspool we call a country has about 98% adherents in the Abrahamic religion one way or the other (I stand to be corrected) ...and yet nothing works. You'd think they'd focus on that, but no it's people who died for your deity to massage his fragile ego that bothers you the most. Why can't it eradicate world poverty to show it's mighty? or eradicate diseases so we'll know he's the king of kings? Why must people die first? Are you guys sure you actually understand what you're serving? A deity that always gets angry and kills people. But na wa o

Thank you.
Barely a week after the very tragic deaths of 200 people who PRAISED God, inside God's House for that matter, this religio-tard opens a thread to mock non-believers.
What an Irony.

AccidentalGenius:
were u baptized by his holy noodleliness?

Yup.
I have even applied for the priesthood.

Ranchhoddas:
The day wey Baba Plaetton go turn born again eh, I go know say rapture is truly at hand.

Funny.

I have said that I am a born again PastaFarian, but no one is taking me serious.
I wonder why .

urheme:
Sir plaetton...the power of God is coming for you.....you will use your intelligence for God.....this manifestation will not tarry.

i have spoken..and it will not return empty.....God does honour this kind of prophetic utterances.

better days ahead for you Sir.

But I am already with the ToothFairy.

My friends and relatives have saying that for years.

Is it possible to revert to crawling, after walking for most of my life?
I don't think so.
Pls do not wish me mental illness.

What would you define as extremism? Was Abraham 'extremist' when he took his son for sacrifice? Atheism is purposeless and meaningless, just like not believing in Santa won't automatically give you a purpose in life.

Not believing in God isn't the end of the world. There's so much out there to learn, explore and enjoy.


Not really. I believe religion evolved from culture and religion is man's creation. You can't give what you do not have. Religious doctrines and notions of love simply mirrors the founder's desires and character. If Mo didn't like pork, then damn the pork. Yahweh would command the Israelites not to murder, yet would lead them in battle against their enemies.

At the end, it all boils down to man. If you see any truth in any religion, it wasn't religion that revealed that truth to man. It was man embedding his idea in the fabric of religion.


Do you consider prostitution intrinsically wrong or evil? Which would you consider evil? The death of a loved one? The death of an enemy? The death of an oppressor?

Is death evil?


Until different versions of this God decide to wage war against each other.


Smoove. Maybe you could help us mention a single religion that isn't corrupt in any form.


This board is testament that mockery does work. Ask Alfa.

Beautiful , epic rebuttal.

Deism, agnosticism, and other isms that distance themselves from Religion, but refrain from calling themselves atheists are fine and dandy.

But these people are merely people in halfway houses, recently released from the mental prison of Religion,, being rehabilitated for full MENTAL SOVEREIGNTY.

Atheism is an acceptance, an eventual acceptance of the full repudiation of the God-Spell.

Now, the important thing is since atheism is neither a club nor a philosophical proposition. And neither does it offer any rewards for membership.

Therefore, what matters is that the individual divest his/her mind of debilitating, toxic nonsense from the Stone-ages, any by becoming self-aware, employ the faculties of his rational mind to fully reflect the real attributes of homo sapien sapien, the thinking man.

AfroKnight:
Well said.

The OP said a lot and nothing, skirting around the crux of the matter. Ponzi schemes appeal to greedy people who don't care where the next "profit" comes from as long as they are not the fall guy. All the arguments supporting MMM often gloss over or totally avoid the eventual unravelling of the scheme.

What happens to the last guy? No one gives a damn. Well, they have just found out. The scheme was "frozen" without notice yet some participants believe in the goodwill of the administration that could make such a drastic move on your money without warning. How can you trust such a system? Come January, excuses will emerge; some, citing the contrary stance of the government.

I hope those affected would learn. I doubt it though. Why? Because you can almost always count on the greed of humans.

Well said.

wizzakosh:
but with all this your education, you still play sport bet. But u did not condemn it, oga pack go one side.

I beg your pardon ?

Sports what ?

Sports betting is already known to be for gamblers.
Sports betting makes no.pretences about what it is, and the outcomes.

And in sports betting , you already know that you have no control over the outcome. Sports betting is not seen as an investment.

urheme:
in mickey mouse club house shye!!!!!

dey deceive your self and yet na u dey shop the Christmas rice pass

Exactly.
Christmas is for rice chopping.

urheme:
how does the subject matter correspond with the write-up

Read again.