slightlyMad: 1. see the store image below, observe it's distance to the road side, How will a sales person allow anyone walk out of that store with phones worth 2 million naira? what if a bike is waiting out whisk the customer away? i have made heavy purchases at computer village many times and trust me, when you buy 2 million naira worth of phones, the sales person will help you to your car with the phones, especially when you are yet to pay for it.
2. When you need to pay 2 million naira in this recession period, you will never listen to any campaign about getting it for you in "my" car You will rather ask that he brings the money over first, not even with seun egbegbe's hungry-man looks
3. Someone of that "celebrity" status will likely not head to computer village with the intention of stealing 2 million naira worth of phones.
4. If you are caught in such act in lagos, Thou shall not take my pictures is the last thing on your mind, trust me. you will be more concerned about fuel and matches
5. Lagosians will never "touch you small" when caught with 2 million naira worth of stolen goods, you will receive serious beatings. Even is they dont beat you as a celeb, they will ALL be nakid including the never-talked-about and free-walking accomplices who tried to drive him away
6. maybe he "pocketed" one iphone during negotiations and sales person figured when they were about leaving and then raised an alarm during the beating, someone then suggested, lets give him all the phones in the store and snap him.
7. Let's not rule out this being a case of negotiations gone sour, you know when you price something very hard and refuse to produce the cash. in this recession period.
8. a setup.
Why I think this post is silly and lacking in common sense.
Good defense. You should be in court defending him with this your convoluted logic.
Ishilove: Hardmirror lied that a christian brother fasted himself to death, but investigations have revealed otherwise
Is that all ? I mean, is that reason that all these invectives are being poured on him ?
Where is incontrovertible evidence that the event in question did not happen ?
What I read from Hardmirror's piece was " died of complications from fasting ".
In Hardmirror's defense, I would say that statement was most likely his own CONJECTURE, and NOT NECESSARILY a lie.
I know a few people who have passed away, whom in my own personal opinion, could have died of FASTING- related complications. That would my own CONJECTURE, might be true, by not factual. Not necessarily a lie.
chidinwachukwu: Those things in the video are not plastic rice,they are plastic pellets for plastic production,all these people shouting without looking closely should look again,God gave us eyes for a reason
Thank you ,jare. It's a plastic recycling plant, the type that any smart entrepreneur should have in his/ her garage or kitchen.
Have you seen or eaten any of these so-called plastic rice before ? Do you personally know of anyone who has ?
Elementary biology and common sense should tell you that our bodies cannot digest plastics. Besides, rice has a certain density, far greater than plastics. The equivalent kilograms of a bag of plastic rice would be at least 3 the size of the same weight of natural rice. Therefore, it is impossible to pass on plastics as food.
What are your authentic sources for this FAKE news?
Stop encouraging ignorance.
What you see in that video are chemical resins used in the manufacture of plastics. Someone obviously is preying on mass ignorance and scientific illiteracy to cause panic and Mass hysteria.
shadeyinka: This is the kind of response you get from a person who jumped into a discussions without first listening to both sides of the discuss!
Seun asked a simple question when I told him that the sin of Satan was atheism. His question in another form is that "If Satan stood before God, how could he now say God doesn't exist?".
That was the basis. So, rephrase!
Oh, I followed quite alright.
And my response was very appropriate.
For years in this forum, we have been trying to educate you folks on the meaning of atheism, but the religious virus, the religious firewall inside your heads just won't let it filter through.
You choose to define atheism only on your own terms, and as it suits you. That's why having sensible discussions with most you is like romancing a Stone. No common grounds.
Atheism is not a rebellion or rejection of god. It is an ACCEPTANCE that there is no such thing as god. And as you can read from this thread and many many threads from NEW atheists, it is always a gradual, slow, lonely, even frightening process of MENTAL Auditing, realization and ACCEPTANCE.
And if doesn't shock us out recession , then what ? Will you kill yourself or at the very least, admit that you have been foolish all this while ?
I asking this because I am going to save this post of yours, to be reminding you at least once every month, as we wait for the recession-busting surprise.
An excellent example of FAKE NEWS and Mass hysteria.
No one, not a single poster has asked the very very important questions.
What is the name of this Woman ? Where and on what date this event take place ? What scientific tests were done on the rice to determine that it was not natural rice ? Did she report to NAFDAC , Any major media or any government Agency ?
Where is the proof that this video was made in Nigeria ?
Is there a living person that can testify that they have purchased or ingested or discovered what they believed to be FAKE RICE ?
The human digestive system cannot digest plastics and other inorganic substances. This is elementary school science. But of course, science is our greatest weakness in this country.
Our hospitals would have been filled to brims if people were eating plastic rice, as purported.
akintom: Mr Muslim: Mr Christian, do you know you're an atheist?
Mr Christian: no I'm not an atheist.
Mr Muslim: you're, because you lack believe in Allah and his CHOICE prophet(Mohammad).
Mr Christian: yes, in that case, i will rather be an atheist, to the extent that i lack believe in your "inexistent Allah" and his prophet.
Mr Muslim: now you see, i told you, you're an atheist. You're even worst than the rational atheists, for all i care.
Mr Christian: the same goes for you too. You're are an atheist too. Because you lack believe in jehovah God and his ONLY begotten son (Jesus christ). Your also worst, because of your extreme views.
Hmmmm.........religions and religious beliefs. What a ridiculous twist.
Anyone that prays more than once a week or repeats prayers is a person in doubt, great doubt, a closet atheist.
Anyone that asks another person, pastor or priest or Pope, to pray for him or her is a person in doubt, great doubt, and a closet atheist.
Anyone who goes for night vigils, or prays at midnight, or prays with candles or other religious fetishes is a person in doubt, the greatest of doubts, and is nothing but an atheist living in morbid fear.
Silence and soberity isn't empty it's full of answers.......... Anonymous
Do not seek truth by men, first know the truth and you will know it's adherent.... Imam ali
My moment of doubt started during a long holiday, we had in my third year at the university. Every member of the house will leave, which makes me the only person staying at home . Before people will start thinking am lonely and sad and probably suggest that for the main reason for my atheism, let it be known that am used to been alone and am obsessed with reading, most especially philosophical books. It is through these books and a large amount of self contemplation that the doubt became intense. I had so many questions my religion can not answer. I was convinced logically that there is no God but I held back because of testimonies of personal experience and miracles I had always heard. But on thinking deeper I realised I haven't witnessed any of these things first hand, I had only heard them from ear say, to put it in a more concise way I had never seen or experience anything that goes against the natural laws of nature. I prayed earnestly for God to revealed himself but I felt nothing, I became so worried and my anxiety increased. I later reasoned that the only option I had left to contact God is the Quran and I have heard so many occasions and boastful remarks about the Quran. It is believed that it won't burn when in contact with fire. On a hot afternoon in the corner of my room, I prayed and told God this is the last chance he had to prove himself to me. I tore the first page of suratul yasin roll it, and light it up. Am sure u can guess what happened next (might post the pictures if u guys need it) . After that incident I resolved never to have anything to do again with God, religion, and spirituality again. I still held Islam and it's teaching In great esteem, but after the incident I began to see Islam from another perspective; it's totalitarian and intolerant nature, it's hostility against democracy, science and philosophy, the reduction of women to sex object, and the reduction of every contact between a male and a female to sex, the concept of good and evil, and of Paradise and hell and lastly the superiority and the infallibility of the Quran.
I would definitely talk about all this aspect of Islam but the time is what am lacking. Am still a university student, so I have to share my time and do what is right in time. I just hope u can all bear with me
"But admitting for the sake of a case, that something has been revealed to a certain person, and not revealed to any other person, it is revelation to that person only. When he tells it to a second person, a second to a third, a third to a fourth, and so on, it ceases to be revelation to all those persons. It is revelation to the first person only, and hearsay to every other, and consequently they are not obliged to believe it. It is a contradiction in terms and ideas, to call anything a revelation that comes to us at second-hand, either verbally or in writing. Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication—after this it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it cannot be incumbent on me to believe it in the same manner; for it was not a revelation made to me, and 1 have only his word for it that it was made to him. When Moses told the children of Israel that he received the two tables of the commandments from the hands of God, they were not obliged to believe him, because they had no other authority for it than his telling them so; and I have no other authority for it than some historian telling me so. The commandments carry no internal evidence of divinity with them; they contain some good moral precepts, such as any man qualified to be a lawgiver, or legislator, could produce himself, without having recourse to supernatural intervention. When I am told that the Koran was written in heaven and brought to Mahomet by an angel, the account comes too near the same kind of hearsay evidence and second-hand authority as the former. 1 did not see the angel myself and, therefore, I have a right not to believe it"...............Thomas Paine. The age of reason
shadeyinka: Boda Seun Atheism is a state of having NO God before you. Literally, God is denied as NOT existing or is Miniscule while Self is placed above any one called God.
When you deny the authority of your Kabiesi and they ask you the name of your king, you will reply, "I have no king". This you will do even when this so called king is seated on the throne before you.
Atheism is the replacement of God with the god of Self!
It is called in modern English DEFIANCE!
Foolish reasoning, as usual.
You can't defy an imaginary kabiesi . You can only rebel against something or someone that you know is real, not an imaginary or mythical character.
Can you defy or rebel against the awesome powers of Superman or the incredible hulk?
How about Santa Claus? That time of the year is approaching. Have you been a good boy or a rebellious child ?
GoodMuyis: Charity [Love] They say Begins at Home.
If truly, *the religious people are suffering* and they wanted to help us out, They should start from their Father, Mother and Siblings
If that is not possible task for them, they should keep their stuff in their brain until their Parent become atheist.
Dear Atheist if you cant Covert your parent, STOP bothering us with your atheism
First of all, no atheist is here to convert you or anyone else.
What atheists do here is to repudiate, push back, and roll back Bullshytes and lethal mythologies.
If theists have the freedom to go around town, mount podiums, rent radio and TV airwaves to sell stone aged Bullshytes, then anyone else should also have the unfettered freedom to repudiate those Bullshytes.
That is what atheists do here.
If unfortunately, some or many theists get infected with rational reasoning in the process, then, well, that's life. Tough luck.
I see much ignorance, so much bile, so much bad Belle here. This witch hunt and trial by media of the former first lady is not only disgusting ,by very very cowardly.
The effcc reasons that PEJ is a political nobody, so they are at liberty to drag her through the mud just the feed the irrational appetite of their legions of Zombies looking for a scapegoat for this government's monumental incompetence.
So far throughout all these humiliating ordeals in the hands of the effcc and the Media, not a single charge of stealing public funds has been leveled against PEJ.
All I here are oohs and aahhs about the millions of dollars in her account, as if that itself was a capital crime in this country.
Well, for those who are ignorant or simply have a bad memory, let me remind all of you of an incident that I remember vividly that occurred long before GEJ became president.
When GEJ was still deputy governor of Bayelsa State, PEJ was intercepted at Port Harcourt International Airport with several million dollars. It made newspaper headlines, and I was so sure at that time, that the Jonathans must be stealing Bayelsa State Blind. The then effcc got involved in matter, and much to my surprise, they cleared her of any wrongdoing and released the money back to her. Anyone interested can do a newspaper search of this incident way back during the OBJ administration.
Therefore, the point here , which is very important, is that however PEJ got her millions of dollars, she has such money long before they entered Aso Rock. And this is what the poor woman has been crying loudly all along, for someone to listen to her. She did not hold any public office during her husband's reign, neither did she preside over any multi-million dollar budgets from which she could have stolen her millions.
I have no idea where or how she made her millions of dollars, but I know for sure, it is publicly evident, that she had such wealth long before taking up residence in Aso Rock.
It is unfair and cowardly to be publicly humiliating a former first lady for the crime of having millions of dollars , whereas, the current first lady, whom also we know to have held no public office, nor captain of any industry, is also walking around, splashing tens of millions of naira here and there, N60m watch here, N15m handbags there, 150k pounds tuition for her children, etc.
Possession of wealth should not be a crime for which a person is hounded and publicly humiliated.
With that mindset, the effcc is encouraging capital flight. Who wants to keep their wealth in a country that fights, harasses and humiliated wealth ?
yeanka007: P, what you said is true, the same problem with brainwashing of women is not only here in Africa, its all over the world.
Yes. Anytime you want to change society or bring changes to society, you first start by indoctrinating the women. Once you successfully do that, then the doctrine becomes self-defense sustaining, because the women indoctrinate the children, and the cycle continues.
Every change starts with focus on the womenfolk.
Here in Nigeria, if only the dummies who were shouting " change " understand that, then we might actually have new generations that think and behave differently.
joyContraMundum: Wow..... Very accurate. Women are indeed the major vehicles for the perpetration of this generational brainwashing.
Women were the very reason Christianity triumphed in the first place! Come to think of it, was it not Constantine's mother, Queen Helena who introduced him to Christianity? And wasn't it through Constantine (Rome) that Christianity triumphed? That stvpidity won?
You really succeeded in putting it in a "milder, chewable format". Your post went straight to the heart of the matter.
damogul: So you are a Teen and you are angry and your anger is at who?
1. Your parents?
2. Your parents for becoming more religious lately
3. For believing in God for almost 2 decades
You only have one diagnosis and that is emotional tantrum and chronic depression. Atheism tends to lead one to loneliness and depression and isnt the fault of your parents, neither is it Gods fault.
Its a choice you made. You chose loneliness and depression when you chose Atheism so be a man, suck it up and enjoy or endure it. You cannot keep painting a wall with black paint and expect it to become a white wall. You choose what you become so get with the program.
Or
You can be like your Parents and enjoy warmth and affection and communion as a family thereby eschewing depression. Ultimately the choice is yours. If you wish to be angry at God for another 200yrs how would that affect God? Can you punch Him? Can you spit on Him? Can you shoot Him?
He is way beyond your reach and you would only end up hurting yourself and become suicidal. I could be your friend if you like. Even though i know you dread and detest me but i am still open to being your friend.
Surrounding yourself with so much anger and bile isnt even medically advisable and is spiritually destructive. What do you say?
Hilarious.
You can be just like your parents and enjoy the warmth and fellowship and fantastic delusions that mental slavery provides. Brilliant! Simply Brilliant. In fact, I have never heard it put more brilliantly.
Most yearnings for MENTAL SOVEREIGNTY start in the teen years,..for exceptional people. Yup.
A young person who begins early to question his religious indoctrination, develops discomfort and irritation at the many incongruities of religious beliefs and faith is an exceptional young person.
AlfaSeltzer: I'm sorry but the stupidity of our parents need to be checkmated if we are to advance
Stop allowing your parents' stupidity to hold you back
They are too hung up and emotional about your particular use of the word 'stupid' , and seem to miss or ignore the general thrust of your argument. Escapism and cognitive dissonance.
Perhaps I should assist you in putting it in a milder, chewable format. In the infamous Willie Lynch letters; The Making Of A Perfect Slave, the slavery consultant points out the importance of the negro woman, and imperative of socially engineering the negro women to be self- replicating the perfect slaves for eternity. In other words, once the negro women are sufficiently brain washed and programmed , relax and leave her to produce Slave offsprings for eternity.
This has been and would probably continue to be biggest problem in Africa for a very very long time.
Look at all these Nigerian fraudsters and charlatans like Adeboye, Oyedepo, Okotie, Oyaks , TV Clown Joshua, etc. Who are their primary targets for brainwashing and fraud? The women, the wives and future wives and mothers of generations yet come. They plant in these victims seeds of Stupidity that becomes an inexhaustible resource as long as they maintain hold on their enslaved minds.
naijadeyhia: .Simplicity does not bring complexity so quit with your ignorance. The very foundation of life is complex which was why DNA was used as an example.
Semi literate trolls. Another one exposes his ignorant yansh.
So DNA suddenly appeared out of nowhere, with all it's complexity ? Gosh !
If you had paid attention to basic science lessons in school, you would have known that DNA is a complex building block that is itself made of simpler and simpler building blocks of protein molecules, that assembled and evolved over billions of years.
Again, let me reiterate that engaging with you and your ilk here is the equivalence of child-abuse.
damogul: Trying to use what you assume are big words show your mental devolution. Real people speak clean and easy but let me indulge you and come down to your leprechaun state.
You say you were trying to make a discussion? Based on what? A hypothesis or a fact? You were well understood by me as speaking utter drivel. In your attempt to understand God and reasoning him out you are beginning to sound like a "mad scientist".
You think evolution predates God? How can simplicity produce complexity? Show me where this has ever been scientifically enacted? Even DNA is complex and as tiny as it is is yet to be fully understood and here you are mouthing off like you went back into time and documented it and then went to the future and also documented that and then returned to the present when you have not even left your text book.
Like many many other goddist trolls before you, that have come and gone, You are doing a very excellent job of exposing your ignorance and personal insecurity here.
Take for example,
damogul: You think evolution predates God? How can simplicity produce complexity?
geesus !
That was where you exposed your ignorant yansh.
By elementary 6, every pupil should be able to understand and demonstrate that everything grows from the Simplest to the Complex.
If, at your age and all the money your dear parents spent on your education, you still didn't and haven't grasped this most basic , most fundamental law of existence, then surely, my continued debate with you here would be the equivalence of child abuse. I therefore give up.
My advice? First try to understand something before you argue against it.
damogul: First its a Hypothesis then you are sure it has to be a product of evolution. How confused art thou small man? All this hogwash you bandy around all in a bid to appear a being of deep knowledge capable of reasoning with God and even putting Him in a bottle.
Neural this and Neural that like your physical body has a nervous system that crosses over to the spiritual thereby bringing the spiritual to nothing.
What a world of deluded folks we live in
Lol.
Epain am. Not surprised. Every big idea threatens you mental Lilliputians.
Again, comprehension comprehension. Sincerely, you have a problem with the English comprehension. You seem to choose how you understand a given statement or statements.
I see no contradiction whatsoever in what I have written. Read again and try to at least understand what I was saying. I wasn't trying to make an argument, but a discussion.
Every idea beyond your grasp seem to threaten you and the silly stone age craps that encumber your mind.
KingEbukasBlog: For the umpteenth time sir , big bang evolution does not preclude the existence of God .
And you are peddling panentheism which avers that as the universe evolves , God, which is the soul of the universe or the material manifestation of his incorporeal being increases in knowledge . Also to some panentheists , even the universe is eternal , it does not impugn the existence of God .
Apparently no matter how you evade it, you will always acknowledge the existence of a Supreme Being
ashjay001: If we are part of a giant, infinite neural network, and with possible ability to tap into this infinite reservoir of info, knowledge n wisdom, isnt it logical then, that this infinite neural network stands apart, sharing info to diverse parts of its reach. In essence, a supreme network, motherlode, from which lesser networks can tap from?
Very possible, much like the religious God. But, whereas the religious God is credited with creating everything from nothing, this supreme neural network that we hypothesize about has to be a product of evolution itself, because it feeds and grows and evolves through the feedbacks from its dispersed neural units. In other words, if God is our minds and in our minds, then God is growing and evolving through our experiences.
ashjay001: Makes a lot of sense, yet, is my consciousness part of a whole? Or just one of d numerous available?
I am inclined to say that it is part of a whole. Going back to quantum mechanics, it is theorized by some that there exist only one electron in the universe, which , through quantum processes, happens to be everywhere at the same time.
If this is true, then likewise, we can surmise that there is only one mind that just happens to be everywhere at the same time.
In other words, we are all part of a giant, infinite neural network. We can, with proper tuning of our minds, TAP into this infinite reservoir of information, knowledge, and I suppose, wisdom.
This is the original basis of meditation and Prayer. Both are supposed to be practices for mental sanitation, and ultimately, self-communion.
KingEbukasBlog: And you believe these incredible abilities of the human brain were conjured up through random chaotic processes .
Yes ,, absolutely.
Everything in the universe started out through random , chaotic processes.
Look a very close look at your life.
Were you program from spermatozoa to where you are right now, writing your posts on Nairaland? From the day your dad met your mom, to the very day and hour they copulated to conceive you, it has all been a very very long series of random chance events, one after the other, sometimes occurring sequentially, and other times occurring simultaneously. Each occurrence advances you to the next level of chance events. The particular sperm that became kingebukasblog best several million others by CHANCE that particular hour on that particular day, otherwise, I wouldn't be responding to a kingebukasblog this very moment.
Now, imagine the magnitude of chance events that occur every nano- second in the universe, and over the past 14 billion years.
ashjay001: If I might ask, how did u arrive at this? I've been finding my way towards this point, though, I still believe in a higher consciousness.
Your mind is, under proper tuning, capable of higher consciousness. We exhibit higher consciousness from time, but we are often too distracted to recognize it.
The human brain has been shown to possess quantum mechanical properties. This means that your mind extends beyond its physicality, into infinity. It here and also everywhere at the same time, just like quantum particles. It transmits and received both physically measurable energy ( electrical impulses) and non-physically measurable energy( cosmic impulses from corners of the universe) .