Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:12am On Apr 17, 2018 |
sellydion: Start your stock analysis from risk assessments, allocate your funds and be very patience.
May I ask you self, why doing it in crpto and not stock Stock is FA, crypto is TA and gut. It doesn't make sense to me to buy a stock at 26 and sell it at 25 when nothing has changed about the state of the company or the economy at large.  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 10:51am On Apr 17, 2018 |
gloriousdawn: Sell if price reverse to 25.60. I don't do that with a fundamentally sound stock. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 10:42am On Apr 17, 2018 |
gloriousdawn: A buy for Zenith, because a tower bottom, a Japanese candle pattern is forming at a support level. Please beware of quarter one result which will be out before end of this month, this position may change if Q1 result is negative. Remember to place your stop loss at 25.60.
Also do your DD. As I no dey do stop loss for stock, what other strategy do we employ to manage risk? |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 10:34am On Apr 17, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: Na today Dem warn against MMM, people chuk head Dem warn against swiss golden, people still chuk head Dem don dey shout on top bitcoin since, some people go chuck head for 19K Now to them, it is Oga Mendes' pull back  Digital currency is not all about bitcoin. And you don't compare it with MMM. People are making real money in crypto trading o. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 3:23pm On Apr 16, 2018 |
DOLLARTEX: It should have been today i think. seeing it still at 22.2 got me confused. Was it marked down today? The price got me confused too. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 3:21pm On Apr 16, 2018 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 3:01pm On Apr 16, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: Na hold with both hands Just want all my TA ogas in the house to talk.  That is to say both TA and FA are saying the same thing. But come o sir Agba, what says thou gut analysis on this one  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 2:56pm On Apr 16, 2018 |
Toluway: They however control many intelligent and successful people, who have faith in them as messangers of God. That is ingenious, and you should respect them for that. Do you think everybody can do what they are doing? Anyone who thinks pastor job is easy should just go and open his own church. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 2:24pm On Apr 16, 2018 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 9:00am On Apr 16, 2018 |
yok: MSCI ADDITION FOR 13 APRIL 2018/GENERAL MARKET COMMENT
The week that has just ended was not that bad, the all share index closed in the positive region compared with the previous week. Looking at the MSCI, I can see that the fund now has some fresh funds. The new week will tell us where the available fund will be deployed. This is a positive development.
Looking at equities with some momentum, our system picked up Diamond ban[/b]k (I am not picking Oando, as best money is made when a stock is not yet recorgnised by the general public, price get quickly priced into stock or the expected gain will be delayed if the potential is seen by all, there is nothing special in anybody predicting that[b] Oando will be among the top gainers for this week!!!). Diamond bank is currently trading at one of the lowest prices in recent time. There is the possibility of a positive turn here.
I am not saying OANDO is not a good investment: for the moment, this stock will see positive move with a lot of crowd rushing to buy. If you want to go with the crowd, good opportunity for some quick gain. Then get out once you see the price getting to a resistance level.
Caution: This is for information purpose only. Data used are assumed to be correct. However, you may want to verify the data from an appropriate source. I stopped taking this msci people serious when I saw forte oil,oando and transcorp in their portfolio. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 7:51pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Agbalowomeri: Oga you forgot to add my gut-forcasting o Make you no vex sir.  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 7:07pm On Apr 12, 2018 |
Deadlytruth: The bolded shows you alone get my drift. You are very correct. We have people who don't bother themselves about company result and they still do well in the stock market. Those who understand TA very well say they can read everything on the chart and base their decision on what they see in the chart. My foray into crypto has broaden my perspective about TA ,I often trade some currencies I don't even know their name . For me,I think the most important thing in investing is for individuals to define their investment objectives and choose strategies that best suit them and work on it until they are good at what they are doing. Either TA,FA,tradoforcasting,spiritual analysis, just know what you are doing. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 5:32pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
yom2: no be small thing. I still remember that silly company Ikeja hotels Ah ah, na sweet - bitter memory you have brought. Ikeja hotel, where the company dey now self?  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 1:05pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 12:33pm On Apr 11, 2018 |
currentprice: clap for your self
reconstruction is the main reason pple neglect this stock but i don't think reconstruction should affect the stock in my own opinion
 Will look at the final year result today. Lost interest after the news on reconstruction.  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:46am On Apr 11, 2018 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:37am On Apr 11, 2018 |
RabbiDoracle: Gradually marching in U na no wait till next year again  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 8:40pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 7:01pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
onegentleguy: Sir Pluto pls do try to understand the basis of my post. While I am not trying to be overtly optimistic about the future, I also refuse to be unduly pessimistic. For while no one can accurately predict the future, we can at least weigh into it on the back of clearly ad judged facts. ...and if we do just that (at least from a result perspective), then we wouldn't presume that DF can never grow their earnings going forward. ...then we wouldn't use phrases like 'NEVER POSSIBLE' as did Sir Wanajo. But then again, It could be that he was merely airing his opinion, and of course I respect that.
To answer ur question proper; On DS, I'd say Probably. Logically, if they can keep up with the many input from their backward integration master plan, then I see a clear possibility. ...otherwise, I'll give it a probability of at least 1/2. On DS, I'd say a YES. ...and I've given my clear reasons for this in several of my past post here.
In all, I have said that the future is here, but I think it would be best if we allowed Mr TIME to set matters straight in due course. ...'let's all make friends with Mr TIME'.
Cheers Sir !! Let look at the figures once again so that we can argue to gain something. We start with DF; Turnover in 2017 is 125b and 105b in 2016, that is about 20% increase. Gross profit in 2017 is 29.3b and in 2016 ,it is also 29.3b, that is 0% increase. Operating profit in 2017 is 18.5b and in 2016,18.9b,zero % increase. PAT in 2017 is 15.1b while it is 10.5b in 2016, about 50% increase. Now, if we discount the gain on sale of asset and finance income in the 2017 report, the PAT would have been less than that of 2016. Then,looking at the result q/q, we will see a slow down in the last quarter which naturally should be the strongest. Turnover for the whole year is 125b but the company only recorded a sale of 25b in the last quarter. Operating profit for 2017 is 18.5b but only 3.2b was made in the last quarter. PAT for the whole year is 15.1 with the last quarter having just 2b. I can see a slow down in turnover and PAT q/q and that is why I said it would be difficult to sustain a 50% growth this year. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 3:11pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
onegentleguy: My Oga the 1st part of ur post in bold seem to contradict the 2nd part in bold below. ...if indeed as u profess, the man Dangote stays away from coys where the barrier of entry is low, then he wouldn't be heading Dangote Flour !! While I wouldn't dispute the fact that DF isn't the market leader in the flour segment, I insist however that it would be drawing up very stiff inference for anyone to conclude that they can not sustain their earnings going forward. (...as u highlighted in the part in italics).
Let's go a bit down memory lane; am sure ur aware that union dicon salt use to be the market leader by miles before now. ...as at the time, NASCON which is now the market leader was a relatively small firm. ... but it was Dangote who impressed and turned things around. So are his other coys. ...for DS and DC weren't market leaders from Adam. ...they grew over time to assume those positions. That said, I am not saying that DF can usurp FLOURMILLS as the market leader in no time. ...my point however is that given where DF was, is and is currently headed to, we need to give some kudos to the management for a job well done. For even on a ROE and ROI basis, an Investor is by miles better off now than when the Tiger brand folks were there. ...and continues to fair much better. So we need to see things as they realy are (at least from a result perspective) and not assume that the 'future can only be a mirage'. Again I find it a bit surprising on how u presume that the man Dangote would've been a complete no-do-well but for the favoured monopoly and government support he supposedly receives. Pls let me ask u Sir; would u or any investor had been better off if indeed Dangote lacked any kind of government support? ...I would've thought the paramount concern of any investor should be to reap a good ROI, and if this comes with any kind support, then much better. Let's face facts; Nigeria is a country where the ease of doing business is near zero. ...and the last time I checked, no business/firm can successfully and sustainably thrive in this clime without some measure of government support in one form or the other. ...no matter how little something must have to give. Perhaps the reason we give a bit of prominence to that of Dangote is because he's always had a good romance with every govt from the last decade. ...but that's a good thing for any shareholder/stakeholder involved with any of his firm. ...that's why his coys always get a good rating and credibility from the investment world. There is a reason why most acclaimed world rating agencies give due consideration to the perceived extent of govt support when trying to guage the future performance and/or strength of a company/firm. However, its not all the time that he gets those acclaimed support. ...I'll give u a quick example; been in the telecom sector I can categorically tell u that the same man(Dangote) did infact lose out in his secret quest to buy off ETISALAT using one of the initially touted bidders. ...but most folks are not aware of this. So its not always the case that he gets support all the time.
In all, for as long as any form of gov't support goes down well for an Investor, then it's very much a welcome development. ...we need it. Note however that am not trying to be overtly optimistic. ...am only been someone who sees things as they truly are. That said, if tomorrow Dangote fails to do anything right, I''ll also air my view. But whether there is some support or not, It should never be a yardstick to ad judge the performance of the man Dangote. Let's admit to the fact that the man has over the years performed credibly well.
Cheers my Sir !! I don't want to get into the argument of the kind of business man Dangote is . He is doing well with his companies and I am happy with that. Now, DS grew profit by about 200% last year and DF did about 50%. The question is this, can DS grow profit by 100% this year? Can DF grow profit by 50% this year? |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 2:24pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
locodemy: NA LONGER THROAT FOR DIVIDEND LAND ME FOR THIS O. BRING HEAD COME TAKE HEAD.I STILL DEY WATCH. You did nothing wrong. It is just that you were too quick in celebrating your paper profit. Zenith is a good buy at the price you entered. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 12:56pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
RabbiDoracle: Who told you?
Before no be only birthday and weddings we dey chop cakes(flour + sugar + others). Now there are lots of events:
Baby shower Child dedication First tooth First word First walk Sendforth Managerial position, GM position, EGM position, ED position, First employment First salary House warming Yearly marriage anniversary Rememberance of the deceased sef Thanksgiving for surviving any things.
Even cut cakes for the success of a previously held party sef.   |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 12:15pm On Apr 10, 2018 |
DOLLARTEX: ds is entering a new phase.i still believe in this stock. I believe in the stock myself that is why I am still holding it. However, I have learnt to moderate and get realistic about my expectations on any company I have interest. I will rather I get positive surprises than get the negatives. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:36am On Apr 10, 2018 |
wanaj0: Not sure how you arrive at that conclusion.
when it comes to analysing a company. Emotions are set aside. You deal with available facts and make judgement call based on the information available to you.
For Dangote Cement, there are few players with HIGH Barrier of entry. Dangote Cement is the market leader so IF I want to buy a cement company, I will buy Dangote Cement. It can control both the price and also the volume. See the use of cement for construction of roads for example. Moreover, there is really no substitute for cement. Hence, I can see a 'future' for Dangote Cement.
Dangote Sugar is similar. Few players, relatively high barrier of entry. So there is a seeming monopoly. Dangote Sugar is market leader so can determine what goes on in the sector. Not much alternative/Substitute to Sugar.
Dangote Flour is different. It is not the market leader. The barrier of entry is low with many flour milling company. Dangote cannot dictate the price. It is not compulsory to eat flour. At a certain price level, people will switch to alternatives. So don't see DF sustaining the current revenue and EPS growth rate. Not going to happen.
For Tony and his companies, I watch with eyes wide happen. United Capital is significant in my holding because I 'trust' the GMD. The kind of growth seeing in DF and DS last year is not sustainable. Those who are interested should go through the financial statements of both companies for the past 7 to 10 years. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 11:00am On Apr 10, 2018 |
phemmie06: The 3hrs 50 min will determine this. But I also pray it closes higher Whose prayer will God answer now,those praying for higher price or those praying for lower price.  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 9:56am On Apr 10, 2018 |
safepaulooo: In my opinion, the MM are playing a game to shake-off weak hands from their positions in the goldmine. Flour even going by consumption by the growing Nigerian population enjoys more patronage of its products and the flour market is still very much undersaturated despite the many players in it. I don't worry myself about the day to day fluctuation in price of stocks I hold hence I care less with what those MM do. My focus is on the company and what might happen to it. One of the ways to be successful in this business is to be able to see things either positive or negative before the crowd, that is being proactive. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 9:32am On Apr 10, 2018 |
safepaulooo: Wondering why DF is on the decline whereas the sisters DS and SALT are remaining defensive. DF compared to the other two looks much better. This GAME looks nasty
#WAYO  DF is in no way better than DS and salt in my opinion. Look at DF Q on Q and you begin to see what might likely going to happen in the next 2 to 3 quarters. Growth in the 3 companies will be challenging from next quarter going forward but it will be more difficult with DF. Disclosure; I am in DS and DF. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 7:25pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
wanaj0: Only corporate action ooo. Maybe result go come on Sunday lol OK o. Thanks  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 6:41pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
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Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 6:38pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
[quote author=wanaj0 post=66486787][/quote]Is aiico result out or na only corporate action  |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 1:48pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
currentprice: we are waiting for index below 40k
 I don't look at the index. |
Investment › Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pluto09(m): 1:44pm On Apr 06, 2018 |
locodemy: Fine.Market is good.Is it because of zenith you are greeting me? Today is friday.At worst it will close flat 27.50.mocker........... We are waiting for zenith below 27 |