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Elemosho478:
The irony is you are the one that the discussion is above his head, all your analogies is fallacious without any logic and you are just forcing it.

You know a thing or two about science and you think you are a science professor or something that know it all.

It is currently impossible to achieve the speed of light because it will require a lot of energy that we currently can't provide and even if we can provide the energy, we currently don't have anything that can withstand the energy without crumbling and vanishing out of existence.

Your baby in the womb analogy is also fallacious because a baby in the womb have no conscious or know what is going on in the womb to the extent of thinking and asking questions, if the world is like a womb then we shouldn't be conscious, thinking or asking questions just like a baby until we get outside, you can't just pick part of the process that suit you and expect people to agree with your bullshits without any logic. The mother is not the creator or God of the baby, how the baby develops till birth is outside the mother's control, the mother just triggered some process that created the baby and have no control or power over the process, the mother is totally different from the description of your God that is all powerful and supreme that have control over everything. Your analogy is fallacious, the logic doesn't fit and you are just forcing it.

Your second analogy of computer program is also another bollock, no computer program is capable of awareness or self consciousness, computer program only follow what the programmer programmed it to do and so using that analogy means humans and the world are like computer programs and all our thoughts and actions is not in our control and everything that happen on earth is exactly how God the Programmer programmed it to happen, all the sufferings on earth is because God programmed it that way and there shouldn't be something like sin against or even offending God because we are not in control of our thoughts and actions and everything is exactly how God Programmed us to be.

Your analogy of computer program also mean humans are also not self conscious or capable of really thinking on our own all our thoughts and actions is exactly what the God the programmer programmed even our argument on Nairaland is also part of the program, you can't just pick a part that suit you, you must apply the logic to everything.

We can't see Oxygen or air but there is so many evidence Oxygen exist because we can't breathe or even survive without oxygen, we can't see it but we can feel it and even use it and control it. Can we feel your God? breathe your God? or where is the evidence that your God exist just like air or Oxygen ?

As to my meme there was nothing insulting in the meme, you are the kid here for having problems with an harmless meme if you think what the meme says is not sensible then counter it with your own fact and argument whining about it make you the kid here.

*Politeness*
Kindly, I honestly don't have time for childish discussion. Once again, the twin is just an ANOLOGY! We all know babies in the womb can't talk. Geez! It is like someone says a fish saying he doesn't believe water exists. And your response is "fish can't talk". So childish!
Those and the computer anology simply demonstrate why it would be impossible for God to appear as you requested - his nature could be any of those or many others - simply beyond our purview.
About the speed of light thing, you don’t understand: light on a speeding train has exactly same speed as light on the ground, when logically light on a train should have speed of light plus speed of the train!
Just as oxygen, there is so much evidence that this our reality was set up.
Like I said I don't have time, watch some of these videos below. These people are far beyond the rest of humanity in AI and quantum computing. Elon Musk, a genius who owns xAI and is the richest in the world, is in the vanguard of this topic. Learn from their insights

LordReed:
Can you explain how if there were no god there'd be no speed limit in the universe.

*Politeness*
Well, according to logic of our universe, as long as you keep applying force/energy something will keep speeding up indefinitely - it should not be impossible to exceed any speed - that only happens in constructs like computer programs and such, because the processor has a speed limit and nothing in the program can exceed that speed. It is a sign that something was made, that there is something going on, that there is a controlling existence outside the construct!

Elemosho478:
What a load of bollock lol

no baby can talk or think in the womb, babies are not conscious if you really think otherwise then i doubt if you are even intelligent or can think critically.

Who told you there's a speed limit in the universe ? Just because we haven't discover a way to be faster than light yet doesn't mean there's a speed limit in the universe and have you been to other places in the universe to be so sure and that we are the only one in the universe ? there was a time when human couldn't move faster than a horse now we have aircrafts, super cars and can even exceed the speed of sound and so many technologies.

Look at you speaking so enthusiastically about the universe, there was a time we thought there wasn't a thing like that. There was a time when we thought there was nothing beyond the sky and the sky was the limit until we discovered space and the solar system and then the universe.

If you can't comprehend it then it must be because a supreme existence make it that away jumping to conclusion typically like someone that can't think critically, if everyone in the world think like you we would still be living in caves and shits without any advancement in all aspects of life.

There's nothing logical in your write up, all hogwash, make up beliefs and self masturbation.

Science requires proof, religious belief requires faith. Scientists don't try to prove or disprove God's existence because they know there isn't an experiment that can ever detect God.

*Politeness*
Kindly, I think this type of discussion is a bit above you. If you don't even know what an anology is how can we have a discussion? Twins inside a womb is an analogy. God's nature is outside our compression! Another anology - someone inside a a computer game saying "if there really is a programmer why can't he show himself?"
About speed of light, according to logic of our universe, as long as you keep applying force/energy something will keep speeding up indefinitely - it should not be impossible to exceed any speed - that only happens in things like computer programs because the processor has a speed limit and nothing in the program can exceed that speed. It is sign of a controlling existence outside the construct!
But really, how can you look around you and think all this is by happenstance??!!
As to proof, there is no final proof of anything in our existence including if we exist at all as we perceive! Besides, I'm the one who said you can only say you don't know, not that God definitely does not exist!
As to your meme, as I said this discussion is probably a bit above your head - maybe you are very young or something. So you can't see air. Does it mean air does not exist??!

Elemosho478:
Where is the evidence that the universe was created by someone ?

If you say it can not just exist because of a process that was triggered then you must provide sufficient evidence to back up your claim that someone created it.

It is just like a human, we know a human can't exist without certain processes like a woman getting pregnant, giving birth after 9 months etc that's the best evidence and processes we have of a human creation but it is like some people ignoring all those processes and saying the human was created from scratch by a supreme being somewhere without any evidence but just some books written by some delusional people and concocted somewhere.

We can't take your delusions and hallucinations over what we witnessed, observed and experienced you must provide logical evidence of that supreme existence creating human from nothing,
why is he so afraid of showing himself if he really is so powerful ?

The evidence is everywhere. Do you know there is a speed limit in the uninverse? Nothing can go faster than the speed of light no matter how much force you apply - exactly what you'd expect in a computer simulation - nothing can go faster than the speed of the processor. Do you also know that mathematics mirrors the laws of the universe? That mathematical equations have been used to predict what's going on in the universe, and it was later observed to be exactly so in real-life. Then look around you - can't you see that all this couldn't have been happenstance, that it was deliberately set up this way. Cut out fat, sugar, salt, and you’ll have a long, healthy life. Yet those are the things that make things taste good. Anything that really tastes good or enjoyable is either bad for you or it is addictive! There is punishment for every enjoyment, and reward for every suffering. Then fractals. Google it. Even the atom is a replica of the universe. And so forth.
As for showing "himself", it's like twins in the womb, one asking the other "if mother exists why can't she show herself?". Something beyond your comprehension!

Elemosho478:
The same bullshits argument as usual.

*Politeness*
Pertaining your quote, the universe is within creation, wuthin our limited knowledge (within what we can comprehend). And we know it can't exist without a creator. God on the other hand, is outside creation, outside what we can comprehend.

LordReed:
Why would that be the case? Why can't living people have the same certainty?

*Politeness*
Because what you think is death could be hallucination induced by extreme trauma. Scientists have been able to replicate some of these conditions by tampering with the brain. People also do have out-of-body experiences while no where near death. Bottom line: the ONLY proof that someone was really dead is that they never came back!

*Politeness*
What I'll NEVER understand is how anyone can say he is an atheist, that there is no God. The most you can say is that YOU DON'T KNOW!!!

** By the way, nobody has ever died and come back. Because, by definition, if you truly died you can't come back. So only way we can know is to have someone on the other side tell us!

lordnkem000:
This is unbelievable. U mean somebody had the

*Politeness*
These are good

lordnkem000:
I appreciate you too sweetie, you know that. Those quotes are all correct. Very true words and shouldn't be overlooked

*Politeness*
Thank you so much my sweerie pie. Happy Sunday. Those quotes make lots of sense. Here are some for you (Nairaland men will love them! )

FreeIgboho:
Quite good. Here’s one for you

*Politeness*
Quite good too yours. Never knew cancer is so easy to avoid. Here's one 4 you

Mrvictorwrite:
In this like keep a small circle and not a large circle your life will be more easier and simple

bring your assignments

*Politeness*
Makes a lot of sense. Post more. Here's one 4 ya

*Politeness*
Ok I give up. What language are they speaking?

*Politeness*
Lunatic Olunloyo strikes again!

lordnkem000:
Thanks so much honey, you are amazing. I really have that belief and I trust in God for his direction and that quote from Seneca is dope and accurate, thanks. That 3rd quote under the Seneca quote I don't quite agree with some sentences there. I agree with the one that

*Politeness*
Ma dahling, this below reminds me of you .
That third quote, u right, I don't quite agree with it myself

lordnkem000:
Trust me honey those two quotes are right. Socrates is a legend for me. With you I now have so many reasonable quotes that I draw inspiration from and that's so cool. Thanks hon

*Politeness*
Thanks ma luv. I really appreciate you

*Politeness*
OP, it is not the same person who wrote the headline that wrote the body of the article. Whoever wrote the headline can't write simple correct English.
Here's the rest of the article:

IamAsiri:
I meant childbirth! A woman that has had two or more vaginal births stand a greater risk of vaginal widening due to loss of elasticity. Some women though are lucky and some do go through numerous exercises that bring it back to its almost original position.

*Politeness*
If the births are normal, the vj will always return to original size. It is just common sense. But if there is one complication or another and there is structural damage, that is something else. Otherwise it's mostly just psychological. Bottom line: the widest vjs are NOT from child birth or anything done by the woman, but from nature - just as some dicks are ridiculously small.

IamAsiri:
You mean you can force what is bigger than a bottle out of the bottle?

*Politeness*
That's why men say things like: "She's had so many partners, she must be wide as a borehole." Pure stupidity! See below

Dyfynezz12:
This hit hard!!!
pansophist, lordnkem000, freeigboho, IAmHim1, Fattprince23

*Politeness*
Soo...

sukkot:
nothing like working smart in the uk. If they require you to wipe oyinbo yansh for 12 hours you will spend all 12 hours wiping yansh

Made me lol

lordnkem000:
My week has been great, I'm just praying for the week

Real insights in these

lordnkem000:
My week has been great, I'm just praying for the week to run faster because i have an important project I am to start in early February. So under pressure but God on my side i hope I'll overcome my fright. You can do anything you put your mind to, just believe and focus sweetie, I got your back.
God will continue to give us vibrant health but we still need more, everything has skyrocketed, salaries are stagnant but prices are sky high, education is almost out of reach for the poor and average and there's over 10k people looking for one job, certificate is useless and so on. Am so happy to hear from you sweetie, do you have any project or stuff you working on? What are the objectives for the first quarter of the year? I wanna know, maybe we could team up

I wish you the very best in your project my luv, you can indeed do anything you put your mind to. As to fright, use this quote from Seneca to ameliorate it. God has indeed given us natural vibrant health, let's just do our little part by exercising, eating ginger and garlic, etc.
You're so right rampant inflation and lack of jobs are killing this country. Let's just hope it gets better soon. So happy hearing from you ma sweetie

SenecaTheYonger:
No. It’s just woke teaching about to be female body. Not trusting the people that think that men can become women through cutting off their Instruments

*Politeness*
But common sense ought tell you that you can't make a bottle wider by forcing things into or out of it unless you partially destroy the structure of the bottle. Hence, multiple partners cannot permanently change the width of vagina nor can normal child birth

SenecaTheYonger:
Person dey use real life dey give you example, you Dey show me article. I have bleeped some baby mamas and I can tell you there’s a difference in wideness that never return to original

*Politeness*
Did you "bleep" them b4 and six months after? There are people who spend all their time studying these things. Don't you think their's is better than your anecdotal baby mama?!

SenecaTheYonger:
Ever notice a pattern in married women cheating? It's always the ones that have more than one kid. It's usually because that place becomes wider and they no longer enjoy sex with their partner with average size.

So they seek out other men with larger than average penis. Just look for the pattern in cheating married women and you'll see that they have kids.

So don't doubt harrysongs. He definitely has a small package.

*Politeness*
Not necessarily. See below

shimolv:
https://youtu.be/L-raBTb5GU?si=mV7z8i8SEwh0YcB

*Politeness*

SMH, so marriage is now all about penis and vagina? Wow!

*Politeness*
Host countries should always win AFCON if burying of juju were as effective as we think in Africa. Because the host country will have all the time in the world to bury juju all over the place before the other countries arrive.

How come we never ask questions like this abiut juju??😎

lordnkem000:
I like the story alot, very educating though, very complicated when reading because if you don't have patience and understanding you won't like to continue reading. It's good to dream and never get too comfortable in your aspirations. You don't know how happy I am hearing from you, I keep waiting and waiting sweetie and this is not fair, you know it. How has your week been? Waiting on you sweetie

*Politeness*
So beautiful hearing from you too ma dahling. Yeah that story, it's amazing how such a simple narrative can be so interesting - just a girl writing about her everyday life o. Makes me feel I can do same. My week's been great my sweetie. Hope yours too. As long as we have our vibrant health, the rest na jara!

Svoboda:
I like obiano too, but I cant vouch for his innocense. Govs have a very corrupt system rigged right before them. What i dont want is selsctive justice.

*Politeness*
Nothing like selective justice. Everybody knows the 11th commandment: DON'T GET CAUGHT!!

AsomughaChuks05:
The watery case is clearly a witch hunt. Governor Willie Obiano 21/21 will be exonerated. APGA is solidly with him as you can see the national chairman of our party is there to support him. Wole Olanipekun SAN is his lead counsel and Anambra state will offer him free residence at the Anambra House in Abuja till the Malami-inspired witch hunt is dismissed.

*Politeness*
If we keep supporting corruption how won't we be getting more and more of it. Most of them cover well,, but someone who stole to the extent he was actually caught and you're still calling it witch hunt!