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Funnyemperor:
07051300170

So how was it? What was your experience?

The biggest mystery is why the government is letting criminals like these rob people in broad daylight without consequences!!

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jamesjude:
pls add me. 07064662017

So how was it? What was your experience?

Tbusted:
07010994360, God will bless u

So how was it? What was your experience?

thizojosky:
081835502757

How has the business been. Let's get your advice

Sooo, who said you buried cow?

LordReed:
Nope you are the one with the obsession since it was you who mentioned god first and made a second thread to attempt to tie Einstein with your god. Your attempts to hide behind your finger have already been revealed as less than useless.

LoLZ! Gosh you are a sucker for authority aren't you? Einstein was never wrong? You are such a sucker good grief. Einstein was quite famously wrong about quantum mechanics but here you are talking rubbish. Bwahahahahahaha!

BTW determinism does not say our thoughts don't come from us. That's you once again trying to shoehorn your nonsense into the matter.

Elaborate on how determinising collapses atheism when atheism says nothing about determinism. LoLz.

A determinist can be an atheist but sure go ahead and show why that is impossible nevermind all those atheists who are hard determinists. Bwahahahahahaha!

*Politeness*
Watch out, you're about to be defeated again. Then I'll split from the section till next time.

Quantum mechanics. Einstein was commenting on Neils Bohr's work. Nothing originating from him (or his "source" if you like) was ever later found to be wrong in real life.
QED one

Please explain to us how someone can say there is a piper in the distance controlling everything and still be an atheist.
QED two

Please explain to us how someone can say he does not take credit for his own thoughts if the thoughts were not fed into him. (It's like prophet Muhammed saying the beautiful words in the Koran were not from him《a stark illiterate》who recited them, yet insist no one fed them into him!)
QED three
Three strikes you're out.
QED!!!!

LordReed:
Nope you are the one with the obsession since it was you who mentioned god first and made a second thread to attempt to tie Einstein with your god. Your attempts to hide behind your finger have already been revealed as less than useless.

LoLZ! Gosh you are a sucker for authority aren't you? Einstein was never wrong? You are such a sucker good grief. Einstein was quite famously wrong about quantum mechanics but here you are talking rubbish. Bwahahahahahaha!

BTW determinism does not say our thoughts don't come from us. That's you once again trying to shoehorn your nonsense into the matter.

Elaborate on how determinising collapses atheism when atheism says nothing about determinism. LoLz.

A determinist can be an atheist but sure go ahead and show why that is impossible nevermind all those atheists who are hard determinists. Bwahahahahahaha!

Of course you mentioned it first. But let's disregard that. How many times did I complain about your obsession with the term, "god"?!

LordReed:
The part where I clearly wrote that it is not from any of his works and was reported by someone else.

*Politeness*
So who wrote these below? Your wife?

lordnkem000:
See these quotes you posted here, I love them all,

Here's a useful one

lordnkem000:
See these quotes you posted here, I love them all, top top notch and very real. Life is just tougher these days and i seldom think about some of these things these days.
So nice to hear from you sweetie, been so busy lately it's why you haven't heard from me, I hope you are good darling? How do you see the recent increase in dollars? My kid bro sent me 100$ to run something and I was shocked how much it was now, honestly the country is gone babe. Fine girl

Happy Sunday my sweerie pie. Thanks 4 the kind compliments. But never let replying get in the way of your biz, always take all the time you need - even a week or more. That's what I do. Wow, you have a younger bro that hooks you up with dollars. That's so cool! Especially now exchange rate has gone craaazy!
Happy you like those quotes. H'about these 😂

Fattprince23:
I just knew it the first time you argued with him that the addiction you are talking about is tramadol. You are both right but when it's come to tramadol addiction he's totally wrong. We better look for another method. He doesn't know how tough stopping tramadol addiction cold turkey is.

IAmHim1:
u have a nice name

*Politeness*
Nope, we are NOT both right. He lacks understanding of human nature. He doesn't realize people have weak periods or even moments of "madness" or depression and also triggers. He doesn't realize these won't go away just because you decided to not do an additive behavior for 30 days!!
*Thanks 4 the compliment, mr IAmHim

johnydon22:
That belief is irrelevant to everyone else.


Hence, it makes him and expert and authority in his field not an authority in what is real.

Have you ever asked the question "where do our thoughts come from?". Well, those are the type of questions Einstein ask, and he has proved very good at answering them. His great insightful mind (or source, if you wish - that had never been wrong) told him that even our perceived free will is an illusion - that our thoughts don't come from us!

LordReed:
Nope you are since you clearly lack reading comprehension.

*Politeness*
Please do tell, which part of the following didn't I comprehend?

LordReed:
You where the one who introduced god then and even now, don't try to pass the buck.

What Einstein said doesn't prove anything about any organising force. These were his opinions not scientific facts.

LoLz! Shut up about what exactly?

*Politeness*
I commented severally about your obsession with the word "god", an obsession that's still going on.
Einstein goes beyond mere organizing force. His great insightful mind (or source, if you wish - that had never been wrong) told him that even our perceived free will is an illusion - that our thoughts don't come from us!

Shut up about what? Well, without free will both religionists and atheists collapse - atheists more than religionists

LordReed:
Great, so why should we care?

*Politeness*
Seems you do. You're the one who asked what religion he was

johnydon22:
That belief is irrelevant to everyone else.


Hence, it makes him and expert and authority in his field not an authority in what is real.

*Politeness*
Einstein fundamentally changed our understanding of our reality more than any human before him or ever since. That makes him the closest thing we have to an expert on the true nature of our reality. So whatever he says on the nature of our existence we ought pay close attention. Now, if he starts advising on how to bake a perfect cake, that's different. But as for nature of our reality, he is the expert we have. If he says he has figured out that free will is an illusion we ought pay close attention. Especially when he backs it up by refusing to take credit for his works!

KnownUnknown:
This sort of fallacious reasoning is seen amongst white supremacists who like to believe all human advancements is due to what they call “western” civilization or who attribute all foundational knowledge to “the ancient greeks” as if the Greeks did not have intercourse with their foreign forebears and contemporaries. It’s also seen amongst jew supremacist who like to cite the Nobel prize won by Jews as evidence of the superiority of Jews as if there was no advancement by others before or after some Europeans started handing the Nobel prize. Both parties ignore the apparent fact that the advancement they claim as solely theirs did not occur in a vacuum but as a result of the constant accumulation of knowledge. Einstein a wasn’t working in a vacuum and did not come up with his theories “ based entirely on his thinking ”

https://encyclopediaofmath.org/wiki/Einstein-Maxwell_equations#:~:text=Einstein's%20special%20theory%20of%20relativity,frame%20of%20reference%20to%20another.

Einstein's special theory of relativity owes its origin principally to Maxwell's theory of electromagnetic fields. The basic characteristic of Einstein's theory is the Lorentz transformation, which relates scientific measurements in one frame of reference to another.

*Politeness*
All this long dissertation to make a faulty point is unnecessary. Nobody is/was working in a vacuum including you. Why haven't you come up with anything?? Bottom line: Einstein fundamentally changed our understanding of our reality more than any human before him or ever since. YET he claimed credit for non of it, essentially saying it was handed to him. He's not the only one that has done this - some top artists have done exactly same - saying they're not truly responsible for their best works and therefore felt uncomfortable claiming credit for them. Einstein did not credit his forruners for his discoveries, he credited "an unseen piper at a distance"!

johnydon22:
Lol. It is called theoretical physics - it is based on mathematics.

Einsteins expertise on relativity again does not make him an authority on reality it makes him an authority on relativity.

*Politeness*
You don't understand, he effectively said it was all handed to him and refused to take personal credit for any of it.
How many lifetimes would it take you to figure out just one of the things he figured out - example, that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, and not a force in the earth pulling you towards it?? And if you did figure it out wouldn't you be so proud of yourself??

FRANCISTOWN:
How did "Bring where I said that" turn to "I never said that" ?

I said it and I've already given the reason in the initial post

*Politeness*
Funny guy. We all know what you meant

LordReed:
What was he?

*Politeness*
We know 100% what he was not:
he was never a Christian, neither was he ever an atheist

LordReed:
Whatever he believed in was not your god.

*Politeness*
Our argument was whether our reality was all happenstance or whether there is an organizing force behind it. The word "god" was entirely and solely your own obsession, and I told you that severally durring our argument.[/quote]

LordReed:
Maybe you have reading comprehension issues. I clearly wrote that it doesn't appear in any of his works and that this particular quote was reported by someone else.

*Politeness*
Kindly, you're beginning to make a fool of yourself again. See below

johnydon22:
Einsteins expertise was scientific and last I checked there is a distinction between that and spiritualism.

Einstein's beliefs are not science and hence bears no scientific relevance to anyone... Recognizing his insights on science bears no weight on his insights on metaphysical matters.

Einstein can believe golden dragons exist, his remarkable work on theory of relativity does not make that any less idiotic neither does it make him an authority in determining what is real.

Einstein's expertise was beyond scientific because at the time he came up with these things they were based entirely on his thinking - but later proved correct in real life. So if based on same his thinking he concluded that free will is an illusion, you better pay attention. Based on his antecedents, Einstein wouldn't believe golden dragons existed unless there is high probability they actually do exist!

FRANCISTOWN:
Bring out where I said Einstein was a christian.

Einstein was raised in Judaism, until his teen age. During that time, he thought Judaism and Catholicism were the same.
Catholics believe in Jesus. Therefore it makes sense to say at one point in the early years of Einstein, He must had believed in christianity too.

*Politeness*
You said exactly that. See below. Seems you're another LordReed😄

johnydon22:
So basically, your question is making the assumption that since Einstein was insightful in one area of knowledge, his insight in other areas should carry the same weight enough for Atheists to try and reconcile their beliefs with his?

Do you see the problem with that thought?

Nope, this is his particular area of knowledge and expertise: insight into the true nature of our reality and existence. Read again what's posted in the OP: "considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality.)"
Someone who all by himself, in his study, through what he called "thought experiments" was able to determine that space and time are one fabric (space-time), that mass is condensed energy (E=mC²), that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, that nothing can travel faster than light, that a person on earth would age 50 times faster than a person traveling near speed of light, black holes, teleportation, time travel, etc! Then he refused to take credit for any of it - apparently because the answers were given to him!

FRANCISTOWN:
🤣🤣🤣🤣You should consider a career in comedy. This is so funny.

*Politeness*
I laugh with you, though I don't know what it is you find so funny

LordReed:
Einstein belief is in a type of Spinoza's god and that conceptualization was not considered 'divine'. Spinoza believed that God is "the sum of the natural and physical laws of the universe and certainly not an individual entity or creator". As far as I am concerned this is just unnecessary word play on Spinoza's part, the universe just is, there is no need to call it god.

You keep talking as if you can read minds. I do not know that gods exist and like I have mentioned the idea of anthropomorphic gods is nonsensical. A whim, a fantasy we like to indulge in as an extension of our own desires for power over our environment. No such beings exist or at the very least have been demonstrated to exist. You can pray from now till the sun grows cold your god will never do anything to contradict the laws of nature because that god doesn't exist.

*Politeness*
You think the person who said these below only believed in Spinoza's god??

LordReed:
In your dreams buddy.

Quote where I said the quote wasn't from Einstein.

Quote where I said to you that Einstein was an atheist.

What I find stupid is believing that a magic wizard in the sky is watching your every move and its most interested in what you do with your genitals. The entire concept of anthropomorphic gods is incoherent and frankly nonsensical. Spinoza's god like Einstein believed are more a reconceptualizing of all of nature as a grand orchestration, no sky wizardry involved.

I used to consider myself an agnostic atheist but now I identify with igtheism.

*Politeness*
See below where you said exactly that - that the quote wasn't from Einstein.
I don't want to call you a liar, but this is ridiculous -something you articulated severally and argued for a long time!

FRANCISTOWN:
You make me laugh this early morning.
Einstein was a christian and he later deconverted. As a matter of fact, many religious leaders were very angry and disappointed to the extent of writing him series of letters. The more knowledgeable people become, the quicker they dump organized religion.

FxMasterz:
No, I'm not saying you'll follow Einstein. What I'm saying is that even Einstein a better scientist than yourselves believed in the Devine. If he later deconverted after writing what he wrote, it shows the
lordreed

*Politeness*
Einstein was never a Christian

merits:
Ivory Coast will chop woto woto for Malian hand end of the road for the host country.

RIP IN ADVANCE 😭😭😭😭😭

*Politeness*
Host countries should always win AFCON if burying of juju were as effective as we think in Africa. Because the host country will have all the time in the world to bury all sorts of juju all over the place before the other countries arrive!
How come we never think like this when it comes to juju??

** I agree about Mali winning. Ivory Coast doesn't have to prove anything anymore. The hunger and anger is gone. That slight edge from hunger and anger makes all the difference in high level competition, and Ivory Coast doesn't have it anymore. And it is not something you can somehow induce