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lordnkem000:
See these quotes you posted here, I love them all, top top notch and very real. Life is just tougher these days and i seldom think about some of these things these days.
So nice to hear from you sweetie, been so busy lately it's why you haven't heard from me, I hope you are good darling? How do you see the recent increase in dollars? My kid bro sent me 100$ to run something and I was shocked how much it was now, honestly the country is gone babe. Fine girl

Happy Sunday my sweerie pie. Thanks 4 the kind compliments. But never let replying get in the way of your biz, always take all the time you need - even a week or more. That's what I do. Wow, you have a younger bro that hooks you up with dollars. That's so cool! Especially now exchange rate has gone craaazy!
Happy you like those quotes. H'about these 😂

Fattprince23:
I just knew it the first time you argued with him that the addiction you are talking about is tramadol. You are both right but when it's come to tramadol addiction he's totally wrong. We better look for another method. He doesn't know how tough stopping tramadol addiction cold turkey is.

IAmHim1:
u have a nice name

*Politeness*
Nope, we are NOT both right. He lacks understanding of human nature. He doesn't realize people have weak periods or even moments of "madness" or depression and also triggers. He doesn't realize these won't go away just because you decided to not do an additive behavior for 30 days!!
*Thanks 4 the compliment, mr IAmHim

johnydon22:
That belief is irrelevant to everyone else.


Hence, it makes him and expert and authority in his field not an authority in what is real.

Have you ever asked the question "where do our thoughts come from?". Well, those are the type of questions Einstein ask, and he has proved very good at answering them. His great insightful mind (or source, if you wish - that had never been wrong) told him that even our perceived free will is an illusion - that our thoughts don't come from us!

LordReed:
Nope you are since you clearly lack reading comprehension.

*Politeness*
Please do tell, which part of the following didn't I comprehend?

LordReed:
You where the one who introduced god then and even now, don't try to pass the buck.

What Einstein said doesn't prove anything about any organising force. These were his opinions not scientific facts.

LoLz! Shut up about what exactly?

*Politeness*
I commented severally about your obsession with the word "god", an obsession that's still going on.
Einstein goes beyond mere organizing force. His great insightful mind (or source, if you wish - that had never been wrong) told him that even our perceived free will is an illusion - that our thoughts don't come from us!

Shut up about what? Well, without free will both religionists and atheists collapse - atheists more than religionists

LordReed:
Great, so why should we care?

*Politeness*
Seems you do. You're the one who asked what religion he was

johnydon22:
That belief is irrelevant to everyone else.


Hence, it makes him and expert and authority in his field not an authority in what is real.

*Politeness*
Einstein fundamentally changed our understanding of our reality more than any human before him or ever since. That makes him the closest thing we have to an expert on the true nature of our reality. So whatever he says on the nature of our existence we ought pay close attention. Now, if he starts advising on how to bake a perfect cake, that's different. But as for nature of our reality, he is the expert we have. If he says he has figured out that free will is an illusion we ought pay close attention. Especially when he backs it up by refusing to take credit for his works!

KnownUnknown:
This sort of fallacious reasoning is seen amongst white supremacists who like to believe all human advancements is due to what they call “western” civilization or who attribute all foundational knowledge to “the ancient greeks” as if the Greeks did not have intercourse with their foreign forebears and contemporaries. It’s also seen amongst jew supremacist who like to cite the Nobel prize won by Jews as evidence of the superiority of Jews as if there was no advancement by others before or after some Europeans started handing the Nobel prize. Both parties ignore the apparent fact that the advancement they claim as solely theirs did not occur in a vacuum but as a result of the constant accumulation of knowledge. Einstein a wasn’t working in a vacuum and did not come up with his theories “ based entirely on his thinking ”

https://encyclopediaofmath.org/wiki/Einstein-Maxwell_equations#:~:text=Einstein's%20special%20theory%20of%20relativity,frame%20of%20reference%20to%20another.

Einstein's special theory of relativity owes its origin principally to Maxwell's theory of electromagnetic fields. The basic characteristic of Einstein's theory is the Lorentz transformation, which relates scientific measurements in one frame of reference to another.

*Politeness*
All this long dissertation to make a faulty point is unnecessary. Nobody is/was working in a vacuum including you. Why haven't you come up with anything?? Bottom line: Einstein fundamentally changed our understanding of our reality more than any human before him or ever since. YET he claimed credit for non of it, essentially saying it was handed to him. He's not the only one that has done this - some top artists have done exactly same - saying they're not truly responsible for their best works and therefore felt uncomfortable claiming credit for them. Einstein did not credit his forruners for his discoveries, he credited "an unseen piper at a distance"!

johnydon22:
Lol. It is called theoretical physics - it is based on mathematics.

Einsteins expertise on relativity again does not make him an authority on reality it makes him an authority on relativity.

*Politeness*
You don't understand, he effectively said it was all handed to him and refused to take personal credit for any of it.
How many lifetimes would it take you to figure out just one of the things he figured out - example, that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, and not a force in the earth pulling you towards it?? And if you did figure it out wouldn't you be so proud of yourself??

FRANCISTOWN:
How did "Bring where I said that" turn to "I never said that" ?

I said it and I've already given the reason in the initial post

*Politeness*
Funny guy. We all know what you meant

LordReed:
What was he?

*Politeness*
We know 100% what he was not:
he was never a Christian, neither was he ever an atheist

LordReed:
Whatever he believed in was not your god.

*Politeness*
Our argument was whether our reality was all happenstance or whether there is an organizing force behind it. The word "god" was entirely and solely your own obsession, and I told you that severally durring our argument.[/quote]

LordReed:
Maybe you have reading comprehension issues. I clearly wrote that it doesn't appear in any of his works and that this particular quote was reported by someone else.

*Politeness*
Kindly, you're beginning to make a fool of yourself again. See below

johnydon22:
Einsteins expertise was scientific and last I checked there is a distinction between that and spiritualism.

Einstein's beliefs are not science and hence bears no scientific relevance to anyone... Recognizing his insights on science bears no weight on his insights on metaphysical matters.

Einstein can believe golden dragons exist, his remarkable work on theory of relativity does not make that any less idiotic neither does it make him an authority in determining what is real.

Einstein's expertise was beyond scientific because at the time he came up with these things they were based entirely on his thinking - but later proved correct in real life. So if based on same his thinking he concluded that free will is an illusion, you better pay attention. Based on his antecedents, Einstein wouldn't believe golden dragons existed unless there is high probability they actually do exist!

FRANCISTOWN:
Bring out where I said Einstein was a christian.

Einstein was raised in Judaism, until his teen age. During that time, he thought Judaism and Catholicism were the same.
Catholics believe in Jesus. Therefore it makes sense to say at one point in the early years of Einstein, He must had believed in christianity too.

*Politeness*
You said exactly that. See below. Seems you're another LordReed😄

johnydon22:
So basically, your question is making the assumption that since Einstein was insightful in one area of knowledge, his insight in other areas should carry the same weight enough for Atheists to try and reconcile their beliefs with his?

Do you see the problem with that thought?

Nope, this is his particular area of knowledge and expertise: insight into the true nature of our reality and existence. Read again what's posted in the OP: "considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality.)"
Someone who all by himself, in his study, through what he called "thought experiments" was able to determine that space and time are one fabric (space-time), that mass is condensed energy (E=mC²), that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, that nothing can travel faster than light, that a person on earth would age 50 times faster than a person traveling near speed of light, black holes, teleportation, time travel, etc! Then he refused to take credit for any of it - apparently because the answers were given to him!

FRANCISTOWN:
🤣🤣🤣🤣You should consider a career in comedy. This is so funny.

*Politeness*
I laugh with you, though I don't know what it is you find so funny

LordReed:
Einstein belief is in a type of Spinoza's god and that conceptualization was not considered 'divine'. Spinoza believed that God is "the sum of the natural and physical laws of the universe and certainly not an individual entity or creator". As far as I am concerned this is just unnecessary word play on Spinoza's part, the universe just is, there is no need to call it god.

You keep talking as if you can read minds. I do not know that gods exist and like I have mentioned the idea of anthropomorphic gods is nonsensical. A whim, a fantasy we like to indulge in as an extension of our own desires for power over our environment. No such beings exist or at the very least have been demonstrated to exist. You can pray from now till the sun grows cold your god will never do anything to contradict the laws of nature because that god doesn't exist.

*Politeness*
You think the person who said these below only believed in Spinoza's god??

LordReed:
In your dreams buddy.

Quote where I said the quote wasn't from Einstein.

Quote where I said to you that Einstein was an atheist.

What I find stupid is believing that a magic wizard in the sky is watching your every move and its most interested in what you do with your genitals. The entire concept of anthropomorphic gods is incoherent and frankly nonsensical. Spinoza's god like Einstein believed are more a reconceptualizing of all of nature as a grand orchestration, no sky wizardry involved.

I used to consider myself an agnostic atheist but now I identify with igtheism.

*Politeness*
See below where you said exactly that - that the quote wasn't from Einstein.
I don't want to call you a liar, but this is ridiculous -something you articulated severally and argued for a long time!

FRANCISTOWN:
You make me laugh this early morning.
Einstein was a christian and he later deconverted. As a matter of fact, many religious leaders were very angry and disappointed to the extent of writing him series of letters. The more knowledgeable people become, the quicker they dump organized religion.

FxMasterz:
No, I'm not saying you'll follow Einstein. What I'm saying is that even Einstein a better scientist than yourselves believed in the Devine. If he later deconverted after writing what he wrote, it shows the
lordreed

*Politeness*
Einstein was never a Christian

merits:
Ivory Coast will chop woto woto for Malian hand end of the road for the host country.

RIP IN ADVANCE 😭😭😭😭😭

*Politeness*
Host countries should always win AFCON if burying of juju were as effective as we think in Africa. Because the host country will have all the time in the world to bury all sorts of juju all over the place before the other countries arrive!
How come we never think like this when it comes to juju??

** I agree about Mali winning. Ivory Coast doesn't have to prove anything anymore. The hunger and anger is gone. That slight edge from hunger and anger makes all the difference in high level competition, and Ivory Coast doesn't have it anymore. And it is not something you can somehow induce

Bestbrain123:
Why is all this coming up after his death.

The revelations were all out there long years before his death, but none of the revealers had a platform. As soon as BBC came out with same stories that have been around for years, boom!
Lesson: in this life have a platform, be an influencer.Work hard to develop a platform,

FRANCISTOWN:
You make me laugh this early morning.
Einstein was a christian and he later deconverted. As a matter of fact, many religious leader were very angry and disappointed to the extent not writing him series of letters.
Einstein did not believe in any anthropomorphic God, like you christians do.

On that note, there is no authority in atheism as it is in the religious world. Christians follow Jesus, Bishops, Pastors, prophets like puppies following their owners.
Individually, atheist don't follow any one as an authority.

Know that we don't do an appeal to authority.
If Richard Dawkin picked up a religion today? Atheists prolly won't trip. Atheism is a personal thing.

Therefore, whatever Einstein thought about a supposed "god" was only good for his own pocket. It wouldn't buy anyone a cup of coffee.

*Politeness*
Well, you have to accept that Einstein was one human more in tune with the true nature of our reality than just about any other human. Just imagine what it took to figure out that time and space are one fabric, space-time, and that gravity is simply a curvature, a dimple in that fabric!
So when such a person is emphatic about an aspect of our existence, you better stop and take notice.

DeepSight:
You haven't posted any question to me. That was my first post to you. So please don't make presumptions - I am not an atheist
.

And yes, you are appealing to authority. Einstein, no matter how brilliant, was only human. Nothing becomes true simply because he said it. And he had all the limitations of perception of reality that human beings have.

*Politeness*
Well, you responded to a post I made which contained the questions: Where do thoughts come from? Where do dreams come from? - The kind of questions an average person would never ponder, but someone like Einstein would spend months thinking about and doing all sorts of thought experiments before comming forward with a position.
So when he makes such pronouncements you should at least sit up and take notice. Different from when say, Putin, says it.
So you're not an atheist. I'm actually surprised anyone is, seeing that we know almost nothing.
What do you think of the agnostic position?:

Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine, or the supernatural, is unknown or unknowable. The view that human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist.

LordReed:
There is no belief to reconcile. He was a determinist, he didn’t believe in your god. End of story.

FxMasterz:
Atheists like lordreed, jaephoenix, maynman, francistown, knownunknown, hopefullandlord, etc would avoid this thread like a plague.

I really pity you guys. May God be merciful unto you.

*Politeness*
My good friend, LorReed, that I always defeat in every argument!😁. At least you're no longer doubting Einstein said it. That's a big improvement.
https://www.nairaland.com/7983972/why-atheists-always-wait-death/3#128238259

Au contraire, Einstein not only believed there is a "God", he went further than that. He believed that God has determined everything - to the extent that our apparent free will is an illusion, a trick. He was much more on the side of religionists than atheists. Infact this ought make you truly question your atheism.

*Politeness*
Atheists & Religionists,
Considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality), how do you reconcile these his views with your beliefs? Especially juxtaposed with traits of an "old soul" below.

[quote author=PoliteActivist post=128254372].

IAmHim1:
you clearly didnt read what i wrote. seems you really dont want to help yourself
hmmm sadd unno. you saying its sounds ridiculous despite the fact that im telling you it worked on me. hmmm

really sad

*Politeness*
Below is what you wrote verbatim. What part didn't I read?? You keep saying it worked for you. Just because something worked for you doesn't mean it will work for anyone else. Simple common sense ought tell you that if someone is truly addicted to something they can't just suddenly stop doing it for THIRTY DAYS!!

IAmHim1:
"she gets home from work tired and stressed out"

"she dragged herself to the gym...she was totally tired and depressed when she came back"

PoliteActivist

cmon

your friend only wasted her precious time by doing nothing

i dont clearly know you that well cus we only online chattin but say your best food is beans.
you love beans sooo much that you take cooked beans without condiments to the cinema as your replacement for pop corn

now lets say you want to eat that beans and fully enjoy it, WILL you want to eat rice in between before eating your beans

WILL YOU WANT TO FILL YOUT STOMACH WITH RICE FIRST before you eat your beans

NO. OF COURSE NOT

you will make sure your stomach is empty before you eat that beans SO YOU CAN FULLY ENJOY IT

your girlfriend went to the gym to exercise when shes already tired from work because thats the thing she hated:exercise...rii


lolzzzz


she wasnt exercising CUS SHE WAAS ALREADY TIRED. she cant lift weights properly cus her body is stressed outtt alreadyy
DONT YOU GET


you have to do the things you hate NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THE THINGS YOU HATE WHEN THE ODDS ARE AGAINST YOU

cmon. yourre smarter than this alreaddydyyy


i dont know your friend that well but i do know she LOVES to take a glass of wine

AND

2) watch a relaxing show on tv when she comes back from workk


SOoooooooo

*Politeness*
Let me tell you again what I've been telling you:
The flaw with your method is THIRTY DAYS!!!!
Someone who can't go a day without alcohol, you want them to go thirty days!! That's what makes your method ridiculous

You are finished. Your soul is gone!
Keep believing nonsense

FreeIgboho:
Happy you like. Dm me, there is more
This one will make you laugh

*Politeness*
Actually made me laugh for real😅. Especially the part about the husband sleeping outside🤣
Here's an informative one

IAmHim1:
lolzzzz.
your number 5 in your to-do list speaks volume.

Doing painful/ unpleasant things

hmmm

prolly PoliteActivist finally getting ittttt

*Politeness*
I always made it clear "for 30 days" is the part of your method that is ridiculous. If you had said it the way I said it, we would have had no problems