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Bestbrain123:
Why is all this coming up after his death.

The revelations were all out there long years before his death, but none of the revealers had a platform. As soon as BBC came out with same stories that have been around for years, boom!
Lesson: in this life have a platform, be an influencer.Work hard to develop a platform,

FRANCISTOWN:
You make me laugh this early morning.
Einstein was a christian and he later deconverted. As a matter of fact, many religious leader were very angry and disappointed to the extent not writing him series of letters.
Einstein did not believe in any anthropomorphic God, like you christians do.

On that note, there is no authority in atheism as it is in the religious world. Christians follow Jesus, Bishops, Pastors, prophets like puppies following their owners.
Individually, atheist don't follow any one as an authority.

Know that we don't do an appeal to authority.
If Richard Dawkin picked up a religion today? Atheists prolly won't trip. Atheism is a personal thing.

Therefore, whatever Einstein thought about a supposed "god" was only good for his own pocket. It wouldn't buy anyone a cup of coffee.

*Politeness*
Well, you have to accept that Einstein was one human more in tune with the true nature of our reality than just about any other human. Just imagine what it took to figure out that time and space are one fabric, space-time, and that gravity is simply a curvature, a dimple in that fabric!
So when such a person is emphatic about an aspect of our existence, you better stop and take notice.

DeepSight:
You haven't posted any question to me. That was my first post to you. So please don't make presumptions - I am not an atheist
.

And yes, you are appealing to authority. Einstein, no matter how brilliant, was only human. Nothing becomes true simply because he said it. And he had all the limitations of perception of reality that human beings have.

*Politeness*
Well, you responded to a post I made which contained the questions: Where do thoughts come from? Where do dreams come from? - The kind of questions an average person would never ponder, but someone like Einstein would spend months thinking about and doing all sorts of thought experiments before comming forward with a position.
So when he makes such pronouncements you should at least sit up and take notice. Different from when say, Putin, says it.
So you're not an atheist. I'm actually surprised anyone is, seeing that we know almost nothing.
What do you think of the agnostic position?:

Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine, or the supernatural, is unknown or unknowable. The view that human reason is incapable of providing sufficient rational grounds to justify either the belief that God exists or the belief that God does not exist.

LordReed:
There is no belief to reconcile. He was a determinist, he didn’t believe in your god. End of story.

FxMasterz:
Atheists like lordreed, jaephoenix, maynman, francistown, knownunknown, hopefullandlord, etc would avoid this thread like a plague.

I really pity you guys. May God be merciful unto you.

*Politeness*
My good friend, LorReed, that I always defeat in every argument!😁. At least you're no longer doubting Einstein said it. That's a big improvement.
https://www.nairaland.com/7983972/why-atheists-always-wait-death/3#128238259

Au contraire, Einstein not only believed there is a "God", he went further than that. He believed that God has determined everything - to the extent that our apparent free will is an illusion, a trick. He was much more on the side of religionists than atheists. Infact this ought make you truly question your atheism.

*Politeness*
Atheists & Religionists,
Considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality), how do you reconcile these his views with your beliefs? Especially juxtaposed with traits of an "old soul" below.

[quote author=PoliteActivist post=128254372].

IAmHim1:
you clearly didnt read what i wrote. seems you really dont want to help yourself
hmmm sadd unno. you saying its sounds ridiculous despite the fact that im telling you it worked on me. hmmm

really sad

*Politeness*
Below is what you wrote verbatim. What part didn't I read?? You keep saying it worked for you. Just because something worked for you doesn't mean it will work for anyone else. Simple common sense ought tell you that if someone is truly addicted to something they can't just suddenly stop doing it for THIRTY DAYS!!

IAmHim1:
"she gets home from work tired and stressed out"

"she dragged herself to the gym...she was totally tired and depressed when she came back"

PoliteActivist

cmon

your friend only wasted her precious time by doing nothing

i dont clearly know you that well cus we only online chattin but say your best food is beans.
you love beans sooo much that you take cooked beans without condiments to the cinema as your replacement for pop corn

now lets say you want to eat that beans and fully enjoy it, WILL you want to eat rice in between before eating your beans

WILL YOU WANT TO FILL YOUT STOMACH WITH RICE FIRST before you eat your beans

NO. OF COURSE NOT

you will make sure your stomach is empty before you eat that beans SO YOU CAN FULLY ENJOY IT

your girlfriend went to the gym to exercise when shes already tired from work because thats the thing she hated:exercise...rii


lolzzzz


she wasnt exercising CUS SHE WAAS ALREADY TIRED. she cant lift weights properly cus her body is stressed outtt alreadyy
DONT YOU GET


you have to do the things you hate NOT ATTEMPT TO DO THE THINGS YOU HATE WHEN THE ODDS ARE AGAINST YOU

cmon. yourre smarter than this alreaddydyyy


i dont know your friend that well but i do know she LOVES to take a glass of wine

AND

2) watch a relaxing show on tv when she comes back from workk


SOoooooooo

*Politeness*
Let me tell you again what I've been telling you:
The flaw with your method is THIRTY DAYS!!!!
Someone who can't go a day without alcohol, you want them to go thirty days!! That's what makes your method ridiculous

You are finished. Your soul is gone!
Keep believing nonsense

FreeIgboho:
Happy you like. Dm me, there is more
This one will make you laugh

*Politeness*
Actually made me laugh for real😅. Especially the part about the husband sleeping outside🤣
Here's an informative one

IAmHim1:
lolzzzz.
your number 5 in your to-do list speaks volume.

Doing painful/ unpleasant things

hmmm

prolly PoliteActivist finally getting ittttt

*Politeness*
I always made it clear "for 30 days" is the part of your method that is ridiculous. If you had said it the way I said it, we would have had no problems

IAmHim1:
lolzzzz. if the term 'feminist' caters to both gender, why is it 'girly-termed'

FEMIN- IST and not MAsCUL- INIST

since both term agrees theres a problem with both genders, why not call yourself a masculinist henceforth

theyre playing you PoliteActivist by distorting the meaning of the word.

sugar is no longer called sugar again but sucrose or 'diet'
people hate sugar but they dont hate sucrose BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW WHAT SUCROSE IS

THE W.O.R.D IS CHANGING. open your eyesss

*Politeness*
Oh, you are mistaken. There's not a problem with both genders, only the female gender. We are disadvantaged by both nature and our patriarchal society (where men make all the rules). Simply acknowledging that is my definition of feminist

lordnkem000:
Missed you so much sweetie.
U see that palost about many good men and women being dealth with? So so true, you start suspecting each other and being scared. True words.
Those quotes too about successful men is also partially true. Behind every successful man most times there are no women, and you are right when you say women pick successful men, I think it's the reason they don't like identifying with an unsuccessful man. Very few will stick by a man. Your quotes are always top notch and i look forward to it everyday. Happy Sunday and happy new week in advance. Feels so good hearing from you my sweet. Pls be careful and stay outta trouble

*Politeness*
Thank you so much mah dahling. Happy new month. May your month (special month because shortest month) be filled with the best of God's blessings!
Here's more "live a better life" stuff,

LordReed:
Dumdum, there was no time before time started, you tool. That is why we can only count 13.8 billion years which, you absolute tool, is not infinity.

Dumdum focus! We are talking about the universe not outside it, you dimwit.

You are just a stupid regurgitating bot with no comprehension of what you are even spoon fed.

*Politeness*
He finally reveals the source of his confusion!!
"We are talking about the universe not outside it"
Finally he admits he was wrong!
When did we say we were only talking within the universe?? We were talking of time and spatial nothing!! Same way with speed, we were not only talking about the universe otherwise why would I say you can always go faster infinitely when we know there is a speed limit in the uninverse??
Finally!
QED on both Einstein quote and time/space!
Notice how I always defeat you?
QED
Ciao!

LordReed:
No dumdum it's not a well known quote because it is not in any of his works or letters. The fool here is you who keeps saying things he doesn't know. Mr Researcher prove me wrong and say the work or letter he wrote it in. Should be very easy for you with your vaunted research skills.

*Politeness*
You know, I keep trying to prevent you continuing making a fool of yourself. If you had only asked yourself why you are the only one doubting the quote, you would have stopped embarrassing yourself. See below, genius!

LordReed:
Look at this one who has to constantly invoke authority accusing me of being unable to think for himself. What a tool.

Dumdum there was no time! And there was no space! They both began at some point so they are not infinite. Are your brain cells doing social distancing, that's why it's not connecting in that brain of yours?

Dumdum can't even wrap his brain round the fact that we say that time began 13.8 billion years ago already indicates that it is finite. Have you ever seen were infinity is countable? What a knucklehead.

*Politeness*
Genius who can't think for himself, what was the period before your big bang started your time if not time? What would you call it?? Same with spatial nothing ("space*). Before big bang there was spatial nothing. If we assume the universe is finite, beyond the universe there is still nothing which continues infinitely. THINK for once, genius!

LordReed:
And I gave you an assignment to go find who claimed Einstein said it or alternatively point out the letter or work that contains the quote. Oga researcher it shouldn't be too hard for you na.

*Politeness*
Kindly, you kinda making a fool of yourself sir. This is not only a well-known Einstein quote, it is one quote that is actually im his "voice" and not in any doubt at all by any relevant authority. It is like doubting Descartes said "I think therefore I am"! Here's the quote again, go to work and find out if any other person is doubting Einstein said it besides your humble self:

Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect, as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper. - Albert Einstein

LordReed:
Did time begin? Did space begin? Answer those 2 simple questions to reveal how how shallow you are.

You yourself said that the the speed of light indicates a processor limit so how can a processor with limits simulate Infinity? Use that muscles between your ears at some point instead of regurgitating what you barely understand.

*Politeness*
Kindly, you're talking like someone who can neither visualize nor reason for himself, only what he read somewhere.
THINK! What was the time b4 time started? Same for nothing-space - what was there before nothing-space and what would be there at the end of it?
Guy below also says it well

LordReed:
Time and space started 13.8 billion years ago therefore it is finite. The universe is expanding it means it has a boundary that already delineates a limit.

BTW if you think the universe is infinite then where does your simulation enter in? LoLz.

*Politeness*
I thought you were smarter. In mathematics and physics there is only space-time. In real life common sense ought tell you space and time can't be finite. What do you call the time before time started and what would you call the time after time ends?? Same with nothing ("space". What do you call the nothing after nothing ends and what was there before nothing started??

As to how infinite universe fits into simulation, I thought you were smarter. How hard is it to make space infinite in a matrix?? Also, in a simulation the infinitude of space would be an illusion. We can only see a finite portion of it, which contains evidence that it is actually infinite, but only that finite portion that we can sense need actually be simulated at all, and only much smaller portions need be simulated in any great detail.
Also, remember, we only know it is generated, matrix-wise or otherwise, but we don't know how. And it is highly unlikely it was generated in the same exact way as our computers of today.
All we know is, it is not "real", it is not the "real world". And when something is not real you can have an infinite number of infinite universes!

LordReed:
See person wey talk say e do research. Bwahahahahaha!

*Politeness*
I thought you were better than this. Are you only now finding out there is debate as to Einstein's last words? Why do you think I didn't mention it in my write-up nor did I insist on it nor did I tell you to research it.
You were told specifically what to research.
An Einstein quote was spelled out for you and you were told to research to find out if anyone else is doubting Einstein said it - except your genius self l!

LordReed:
Yes the universe is finite because it has a boundary. Maybe you need to research that too.

LoLz! Keep hiding behind that finger. As if it was not you who said:

*Politeness*
We don't know that the universe is finite and it is impossible for us to know. Most of the universe is unobservable to us. There is a hypothesis that it is finite, just as there is a hypothesis that it is not.

But there are things we KNOW cannot be finite. They are time, space (nothing), and speed. No matter how fast something is going it can always go faster unless there is an external constraint preventing it.

Elemosho478:
So it is no more a god but now forces lol

You are gradually seeing the light lol

*Politeness*
Maybe you're a bit confused by your obsession with the word "god"
The contention has always been: was this our reality set up (which of course implies a force behind it - "God*) or was it all by happenstance?

Indigbo:
Everyone had written Ivory coast off now they could go on to win this tournament. Trust me. Senegal is overhyped, Nigeria can beat Senegal

*Politeness*
Host countries should always win AFCON if burying of juju were as effective as we think in Africa. Because the host country will have all the time in the world to bury juju all over the place before the other countries arrive.

How come we never ask questions like this about juju??😎

LordReed:
LMAO if you did any research you won't have quoted some wonky quote attributed to Einstein that is not really from Einstein. Up your research game bro.

You haven't explained anything. Telling me that something is finite therefore there must be an external influence is bunkum. The entire universe is finite so why pick one aspect of it tell me there is something special about its own "finiteness"?

You can't explain anything because you are simply parroting something you think validates your beliefs. Look at you trying to hide behind your finger claiming you aren't talking about a god. LoLz.

BTW even if the simulation hypothesis was proved conclusively tomorrow it still won't prove that your god exists. Bwahahahahaha!

*Politeness*
Everything is determined, the beginning as well as the end, by forces over which we have no control. It is determined for the insect, as well as for the star. Human beings, vegetables, or cosmic dust, we all dance to a mysterious tune, intoned in the distance by an invisible piper. - Albert Einstein

Here's what I.mean by research: copy the above and find out if anybody else is doubting Einstein said it besides your genius self!.

You keep saying the universe is finite. How do you know??

My contention has always been that this our reality was set up by forces outside it. You are the one obsessed with the word "god"!

*Politeness*
Host countries should always win AFCON if burying of juju were as effective as we think in Africa. Because the host country will have all the time in the world to bury juju all over the place before the other countries arrive.

How come we never ask questions like this about juju??😎

KnownUnknown:
Don’t care what they say. If the topic is their expertise then I’ll give them an ear but their delusions do not become valid just because they are an authority in a particular field. They are not the “vanguard” of anything.

*Politeness*
It is their expertise! Elon Musk is at the vanguard of all these. He owns xAI and designed computer games all his youth, plus he is a confirmed genius. You can't get more expert than that!

KnownUnknown:
@PoliteActivist

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

Doesn’t matter what the apartheid swine thinks or what Einstein allegedly said.

*Politeness*
Your quarrel is not just with Einstein, it is also with Elon Musk, Tyson Degress, and just about every person at the vanguard of thought, AI, simulation, and computing. They are all wrong and you and Nairaland atheists who say nothing organized our reality are right!

LordReed:
You keep teaching me anything but the exact thing I asked you about. LoLz. BTW the reason the quote doesn't appear in any of Einstein's works is because he didn't say it, someone else claims he said it. Funny isn't it LMAO!

Dude show me how you know it is therefore because of a god. You cannot jump from a computer processor has finite speed to therefore a god exists. Everything in the universe is finite so how is that evidence of a god?

*Politeness*
I taught you and u want me to do the research for you too Do a little research like me.
You are obsessed with the word "god", aren't you? My only assertion is that this our world was organized. All evidence points to that.
About speed of light, I can't keep explaining g the same thing. This person below says it well also

LordReed:
No it does not, that's your conjecture and you need to demonstrate that is more than just your conjecture. I am pretty sure if the limit didn't exist you'd say it was proof of your god.

Funny how this quote does not pop up in any of his works, hmmmm.

*Politeness*
About Einstein quote, another thing you're learning from me. I keep teaching you!

About speed limit in the universe, in this our reality things don't suddenly stop adding speed. The fact you can't exceed a certain speed no matter what is sign there is external influence Like I told you that is what happens in computer programming- nothing can exceed the speed of the processor

LordReed:
It doesn't matter what light is doing or how it defeats your incredulity, you need to demonstrate that a god is responsible for the phenomenon. Yes I read your post and it still doesn't add up at all. Light has a characteristic therefore god, huh??!!

Stop misquoting people to prove a point, that is not what Einstein said. The quote is:

“I cannot seriously believe [in quantum mechanics] because the theory is incompatible with the requirement that physics should represent reality in space and time without spooky action at a distance...”

Where in that quote does someone or control occur?

*Politeness*
See the Einstein quote below, Mr. Know-it-all.
I don't have to demonstrate anything. Speed limit in the universe is one of many things that point to an underlying controling influence external to this our exitence. In our reality there are no speed limits unless they are imposed by something external

Elemosho478:
So you don't see the "Likely" in those video? which mean it is just his belief without any evidence to back it up but you were saying the world is like a computer program as if you have tangible evidence.

You are the kid here, can't put up a decent argument so you started throwing tantrums.

So how are your wrong analogies that doesn't fit suppose to proof the evidence of God existence ?

You keep saying it is just an analogy, if you want to use an analogy you must use the right analogy and the logic and rules must match to really make a convincing argument.

You really expect people to take your illogical and fallacious analogy as proof of God existence? you are all empty lol

*Politeness*
Kindly, this is what I mean by childish. How can you expect anyone to say definitely we're in a simulation?!
I've already told you that everything we know
(including scientists) is on a "likely" basis. We don’t know anything definitively, including the true nature of our very existence!

LordReed:
You didn't answer my question. Let me rephrase: Why do you think it there needs to be a god for this limit to exit? Can you show that without a god the limit would not exist?

*Politeness*
To save time please read my post above. It is unnatural and illogical that light maintains same speed regardless of how fast the source is traveling.
That and many others point to a system that was set up, and not spontaneous. See my videos above.
Even Einstein came to the conclusion that "there is someone or something in the distance controlling everything"