Feldie: I've always hoped and prayed to be dead before then. I hope to die strong. I can't imagine myself being old and rickety and barely able to stand. God forbid. What is the difference, dying at 65 and dying at 80? What difference would the additional 15 years make? You would have already become irrelevant and condemned to watching people do things
*Politeness* Don't say these till u get there. Comfortable old folks have consistently said those were the best time of their lives. It's probably not what it seems from outside. Pray to have the full human experience instead of having your life cut short
Deemas: You can set your limit upto 5m as you progress with transaction in the app that I use. Furthermore, if Mr A's level of risk as per scam is high, that of Mr B might be low. It is well, may we not fall victim of scammers.
*Politeness* Honestly why I made the statement is because a friend had like experience recently. He sent a loan of 50K to a friend, not knowing it was scam. He told everyone he sent 500K. That's human nature. As long as they know u have no way of knowing the amount they actually sent!
MaxInDHouse: Guy it's obvious you have no scriptural based points to back up your lies that's why you're trying to use cheap blackmail!
Jesus of Nazareth gathered thousands of disciples but many of them turned back from following him and they never returned! John 6:66
So when false witnesses were called to come and testify against Jesus do you think it's the disciples of Pharisees?
Come on, use your brain! Anyone following the Pharisees have been warned strictly not to believe in Jesus or they will be expelled from the synagogues! John 9:22
So all those witnesses used against Jesus were his former disciples who are now trying to gain the approval of their religious leaders and at the same time make some money like Judas Iscariot?
*Politeness* You know, it is one thing to say things out of ignorance, it is quite another to be a willful liar. God forgive me for even mentioning TB and Lord Jesus together. Christ had his closest associates and helpers who were called the 12 - the apostles. Mention ONE who wrote things about him alá all these TB's closests about him. You quote scriptures when NECESSARY! You don't use it as a means of obfuscation. I quoted scriptures when warranted, and we are still waiting to hear from you how it means that salvation is from works!
■[[(Ephesians 2:8-9) It is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast” ]]■
MaxInDHouse: TB Joshua claimed he believe in Christ Jesus so if you're saying he was using another power can you prove it without the stories from his enemies? Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis all accused Jesus of using demonic power! Matthew 12:24; Luke 11:15 So explain (without what others are saying) that TB Joshua was using another power apart from faith in Christ Jesus!
MaxInDHouse: This is what i'm saying! Use the scriptures not videos. Miracle is miracle anyhow it's performed. Jesus foretold that many will perform miracles in his name (not magic) yet he doesn't know them! Matthew 7:21-23 So if you don't know how to use the scriptures in setting matters straight on this issue please forget it i'm not interested in your videos have you seen how your pastors are performing their own miracles? So what has this video got to do with judging what is right or wrong?
*Politeness* Kindly, this is like talking to a totally tone-deaf person with a touch of kolo. How many times will you be told, these are NOT Pharisees and Sadducees, these are his closest and most intimate disciples who lived with him for years and saw everything first hand, all saying the same thing! And it's not only them, there are also outsiders saying the same things. I've already told you of his mother warning him not to use their dark powers; I've already told you of a devastated young girl who had never been to SCOAN who narrated how she lost her virginity to TB in a hotel room, etc. You want absolute proof, do you have absolute proof about anything? Do you have absolute proof you are not dreaming all this, or absolute proof the apostles wrote the Gospels, etc.? Stop defending what you know in your heart is not kosher just because JW have come out in support of it - out of fear they could be next! Remember, there is consequence to supporting evil. Also, if anyone had any doubts b4, this support further proves JW is NOT a wholesome organization
MaxInDHouse: TB Joshua claimed he believe in Christ Jesus so if you're saying he was using another power can you prove it without the stories from his enemies? Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and other Jewish Rabbis all accused Jesus of using demonic power! Matthew 12:24; Luke 11:15 So explain (without what others are saying) that TB Joshua was using another power apart from faith in Christ Jesus!
*Politeness* Try to actually watch the video below. Then meditate on it. It was posted online in 2021, long before BBC
MaxInDHouse: Are you saying TB Joshua doesn't have such faith?
*Politeness* You keep asking the same questions over and over. I'll simply re-post my earlier answers. See them below. Study them at your leisure:
------------------------ It is more what a Christian should NOT be doing. Christians are humans and are not sinless at all, but there are things that mark one as not a Christian at all - things like believing in and using the powers of another entity altogether ----------------------- I hardly need to answer this. A Buddhist can say he is a Christian but people who know him and worked with him closely will testify he's a Buddhist, as in this video below and the one before! ------------------------- As I told u, a Christian doesn't believe in Hindu or Buddhist gods, neither is he a traditionalist, atheist, or moslem. He believes in Christ!
MaxInDHouse: Calling a church name shows you don't know the truth because i never came here to mention a church name rather stating facts as written in God's word.
Stop the blackmail and use the scriptures to back your arguments that's what i've been doing since i didn't mention the name of any church here since the thread is all about a man and not a church.
BBC did what is WRONG! That was a biased documentary while they're interviewing those saying negative things about the dead man they should have also interviewed those who will emotionally speak about the good things he has done for them!
*Politeness* And so it is settled (not that we didn't know b4): You can't deviate from a position adopted by JW higher-ups, no matter how asinine it might be!!
I have been using the scriptures. Here's one below. We are still waiting for you to tell us how it means that salvation is from works: ■[[(Ephesians 2:8-9) It is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast” ]]■
You are trying to make this about BBC. JW is fixated on BBC, fearing an exposé. Well, it is NOT about BBC, it is about TB. All this info and much more have been out there and online long b4 BBC came along!
webincomeplus: Otedola and Dangote might not have that kind of rapport. Every millionaire or billionaire still has people in their circle that they are not all that formal with.
I'm pretty sure there's no one in their inner circle that'll whatsapp them for 5m "to be paid back next Friday". Very rich folks are simply NOT that way with money
webincomeplus: It's like you don't know how little millions of naira is in the eyes of these elites.
Na you wey no get much go dey think say na exaggeration.
If you're a multi-millionaire who needs cash for something urgent, you think you'll be asking those in your circle to assist you with 20k? And they'll believe you?
*Politeness* Otedola will NOT whatsapp Dangote "lend me 5m, I'll pay you back Friday". Rich people simply don't operate that way. People who operate that way usually need to borrow less than 1m
oliverwrites: Do you know the meaning of *customize*?
I'm sure you know the meaning of regular. See below
Nairalander248: Probably you are living below 5k daily. They are people that live above 1m daily. Mind you I have the same Access Bank app. That's just default limit on any app. You can increase that limit. PEPs and FEBs that used app for transfer can't use default transfer limit brother.
*Politeness* You said the max is now 25m. I don't see 25m anywhere. I made it clear I was talking regular, which is not what you posted!
Nairalander248: Banks app maximum transfer limits a day now is 25m, wake up bro.
The senators are classified as PEP and FEP, you can't give them 1m transfer limit. Are you playing?
*Politeness* The Nigerian banks I deal with, their app maximum daily limit is 1m or less regular (See Access below), regardless of who you are. There's a reason for this - to limit losses from situations such as this
oliverwrites: My app has 5m daily limit. You can have it customized and again, the fact that you can't do it for your friends doesn't mean others can't. Not everyone is a broke ass.
*Politeness* Nigerian banks, which is where people have their money have maximum daily limit of 1m or less regular. We are NOT discussing what they can afford to lend. We are discussing transferring millions based on a whatsapp request for a loan. Know exaggeration when you see it
MaxInDHouse: First of all get one thing straight into your head that calling yourself "polite" doesn't mean you're polite polite ones don't just go about with rumours they can't defend. If you're called upon by unbiased investigators to produce evidence of TB Joshua's atrocity as in just one incident that we can use to nail him {Matthew 26:59} you have nothing other than mouth to mouth stories which doesn't agree on one particular incident {Mark 14:56} that's not how real investigators do our work at least two or three witnesses must agree on one particular incident that is what God's word says! Deuteronomy 17:6; 19:15
So your politeness doesn't teach you that your emphasizing on my religion is pointless that won't give you any point. Stupid people like you will like to instigate others against someone who is telling you the truth. Whether one is a Deeperlifer, RCCG, Winners, Apostolic or Celestial is not what we're discussing here. It's the case of a British broadcasting company making a documentary about a dead man whom many people loved for his philanthropic deeds as they gather accusers and never pick one of his friends to air their own side. That's INJUSTICE on their part and a real man of God wouldn't accept that!
I have my own reasons why TB Joshua is not a Christian but as for all these accusations it's of no relevance as the accused is dead and there is no agreement on a particular incident. Ọmọ that's exactly how Pharisees gathered false witnesses against Jesus of Nazareth so it's not new to me!
*Politeness* I simply stated the truth. I don’t blame you for being hurt - the truth is painful. Tell us (though we know the answer): can you deviate from a position adopted by JW higher-ups, no matter how asinine it is?? Even something unequivocally written in the Bible like saved by grace, you insist we are saved by works because that's the position they adopted!
As for TB, are your OK? They are all agreed on so many incidents. I told you before, I've followed this a long time and know it in detail - and my position has nothing to do with BBC. Stoo arguing something you don't know much about. And you don't watch videos I posted which were put online years ago, long before BBC. 90% of what's been said over the years never made it into BBC. Videos that have been online for years, all saying the same thing! Here's another one:
Deemas: Very possible my dear. I was chatting with a scammer who hacked a church member's WhatsApp account without knowing. This man is a highly placed officer of the NPF. The scammer said I should loan him 1.5m and that he wants to quickly sort out something and refund in 5 days. It was when I called I got to know his WhatsApp account was hacked.
AlphaNugget: Your circle determines your alert during your time of need. Don't underrate rich men.
*Politeness* Oh, I know they can request it, but even Tinubu won't transfer 1.5m just like that. Infact most banks and apps have maximum of 1m or less
coputa: IN LIFE YOU DON'T MARRY WHO YOU LOVE RATHER YOU LOVE WHO YOU MARRY
*Politeness* You can also hate who you marry, just don't shoot them! Also, you may marry who you love, but later find yourself hating them more than anything in the world!
COVR: There's something special about imo state or maybe about Uzodinma. It is most visited state by Buhari and Tiunbu is taking thesame step .
*Politeness* It is like the parable of the lost sheep. It is one state they know they ought not have - they lost it fair and square but managed to steal it from PDP in broad day light - from 4th place!
SoNature: Meet Governor Hope Uzodinma - the only governor who invites the president to commission every kilometre of road completed.
In the end, he will spend more money to host and entertain the president than he would tackling the problem of his people. I thought this madness ended with Buhari. This is what happens when a politician cannot differentiate between politics and development.
*Politeness* No mind am. Abracadabra SUPREME COURT governor!
It's bad enough that a former minister is openly admitting to paying off ransom, but the C-in-C?? come on Bro, that would be the worst decision ever.
Yes, I know it's a very dicey situation and we all want the remaining siblings to be returned unharmed, but openly admitting to paying millions in ransom is not the way to go about it. It only further emboldens would be kidnappers
*Politeness* They should rather pass a law making payment of ransom a felony. If you are caught paying ransome you go to jail. Also when someone is kidnapped it'd be assumed they're dead. Pass a law that once someone is kidnapped it MUST be reported to police, then a funeral held for the person.