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jaxxy:
Jonathan can say he did loose even tho he lost since he controls the military now and hold the whole nation to ransom and ask Nigerians to do their worst.

Cos that's what ur asking tinubu to do.

The judges have their job to uphold the constitution and law and if they can't do that cos they are loyal then we fall into a scenario of Jonathan not conceded and facing the consequences whatsoever that may have been.

The country does not have to turn upside because of 1 man.

You keep mumuishly saying "because of one man". Are dictators usually two men??. "One man" you handed control of your military and all law enforcement agencies in the country. One man you sat back and watched him put his loyalists in all key positions - people he brought from obscurity into the limelight. After you have allowed all that, you now expect some people in robes, appointed by his own party, with zero enforcement power, to be blind to all that and now vote to magically remove him and hand you power!
NIGERIANS ARE DELUDED!!!

jaxxy:
why wasn't Jonathan a dictator? Have I only mentioned Abacha? what about Jonathan? was he not removed as an incumbent? Has that ever happened b4?

Also was Abacha ill or we just call it a mystery or act of God?

Jonathan CONCEDED he lost the election AND left VOLUNTARILLY!!!
You yourself said if he hadn't maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria!!!
Knowing this, if you were a judge would you vote to remove Jonathan if he had "won" the election?
What do you think would have happened if Jonathan had rigged the election and won?? Do you think judges his own party appointed would go deaf and vote to remove him, knowing full well it could mean destruction of the country??
NIGERIANS ARE DELUDED!!!

jaxxy:
was Abacha removed by his will or he died of old age or sickness?

Dude better get real. We have no president yet based on the constitution of Nigeria.

Let's stop decieving ourselves that one man cam do whatever he likes and hold a nation ransom and nothing will happen.

Jonathan did the right thing by saying his ambition is not worth the blood of Nigerians we wait for the judges to do the right thing and tinubu to comply. Its very simple.

What's wrong with you and this Abacha stuff?? Abacha was not removed by force or killed in a coup. He died in office!. Yess, one man can hold a nation ransome. They are called dictators. Nigeria's president is so powerful, and everyone else powerless that conditions are perfect for a dictator to emerge - like in communsts countries where the leader always get 95+ percent of the vote!

jaxxy:
seems u didn't understand what i meant by that statement u quoted.

I mean if the judges don't do the constitutional and right thing it may or may not destroy Nigeria. just like in Jonathan's case where the right thing was done cos buhari won even tho Jonathan controlled the Military as u claim for tinubu a months old inec selected president

Hope u understand my exact words now so u stop sounding like a dingbat.

Stop being ridiculous. How else can anyone interpret:

only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria

The only thing that will risk destruction of Nigeria is trying to remove a sitting president by force or court order - and those judges know that!!
Any other scenario, nothing will happen - just as nothing happened durring inauguration!

jaxxy:
How can following the constitution and law destroy Nigeria?

when Abacha died or Jonathan left did it destroy Nigeria? So why should removing tinubu destroy Nigeria if it follows the constitution and law?

pls let's use our sense not sentiments.

Those were your own exact words. See them below again. And you keep mentioning Abacha and Jonathan like an idiot. Abacha DIED in office. Jonathan CONCEDED defeat and VOLUNTARILLY left!
See Imo case again below. What do you think would happen if it were president??

jaxxy:
only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria...

jaxxy:
Did anybody believe Abacha will be removed or Jonathan will be defeated? Those are instances and u are here talking like I'm speaking Spanish.

u use abracadabra in imo state like we have not had other judgements like osun state and many more.

Pls let's look at what is at stake and b4 the courts and if we want to behave like nothing matters then let's see where it will take us.

Other countries that protests have overtaken the country are not aliens or spirits. One thing can lead to another.

Only God knows what would have happened if Jonathan didn't concede defeat to buhari maybe it would have destroyed Nigeria and maybe not.

@bolded, now you're getting it! You're are asking pro-APC judges to throw out APC and in so doing may be "destroy Nigeria"! All to satisfy your sekf-delusion.
Anyway, all this will soon be moot. I just hope those judges at least try to pretend they actually considered the evidence, make it look like it was a close a decision.
Truth is, even if evidence emerges of Tinubu personally rigging that election, those judges will not remove him.
Same way the totally corrupt Tinubu (MC Oluomo) will "win" the 2027 election even if only 10% of the population supports him!

** I think Imo was the first time in electoral history where someone who came 4th was declared winner and quickly sworn in!

onuman:
Glad that you understood that someone was leader of Nigeria when Muritalla, Buhari, Babangida and Abacha took over government. It becomes much more easier to send out Tinubu after the court has declared him illegitimate president.

You didn't answer the question: why didn't the army stay loyal to the constitution??
Yes, someone was leader but someone else took over enforcement - and the courts you're counting on couldn't do anything because they have no way of enforcing anything! That's the whole point!
Anyway all this will soon be moot. I just hope those judges at least try to pretend they actually considered the evidence, make it look like it was a close a decision

jaxxy:
and u think the military and judges in 2015 weren't appointed by pdp and Jonathan?

u have been jumping from military era to looking for political excuses to brazenly disregard the constitution and law. Let hope the we won't look for excuses to burn the country.

My friend you are not using your head. Nigerians like burying their heads in the sand. A LITTLE realism and you'll see there is no way those judges will remove Tinubu. Instead we choose to hope against hope.
You keep mentioning Jonathan. Jonathan LOST an election AND conceded he lost the election AND chose to leave without putting up a fight. Can't you see that Nigeria has foolishly made their president so powerful that the only way to peacefully remove him is if he voluntarilly removes himself. Picture this: SC rules that xyz is president and the sitting president ignores them (as he has done in other cases) tell us what will happen.

Or better yet, picture they perform the same abracadabra they performed in Imo state - they declare whoever came 5th president. What do you think will happen?

jaxxy:
A judge who follows the constitution and law. Its not rocket science.

Governors who were removed or Jonathan who was removed didn't have hos men heading the military to do and undo for buhari in 2015?

we u see what will destroy u or destroy the country u desperate to rule u will get sense.

Judges are human beings. In this case, human beings appointed by APC because they have APC connections.
We are not in a utopia and things don't happen in a vacuum

onuman:
Controlling what? The moment the courts declare Tinubu's election null and void is the moment his control of whatever organs of governance stopped to exist. The army is loyal to the constitution of Nigeria, not to anybody.

Oh yeah? If the army is loyal to the constitution, how did Murtala, Buhari, Abacha, Babangida take over??
You are in Nigeria, not US!

jaxxy:
u are comparing mangoes and oranges. Is this military rule or is the military above the constitution and law under democratic rule?

if we were under Military rule I would understand where ure coming from and agree with u even tho Abacha still did not last very long with all the Military he thought he was controlling.

I was asking if YOU were a judge would you issue such rulling? What type of judge would you be to vote to remove someone who already put his men in all the key defence, law enforcement, foreign policy, financial, and legislative positions in the country??
I think only a robot (which has no humanity and considers only the law) would do that!

chatinent:
Did heaven fall when he rigged himself in? Why will it fall now?

When he rigged himself in he was not control of military, NPF, and all levers of government.
It's like asking if heaven would fall if the courts ruled to remove Abacha because he came in illegally! Won't you be a foolish court indeed to issue such rulling??

onuman:
Any court that approves Tinubu as president of Nigeria risks judges of the court going to exile from Nigeria.
Never in the history of Nigeria was presidential election so brazenly rigged in a most primitive way.

jaxxy:
It will be the end of the judiciary itself, a ridicule of the constitution and end a blow to democracy.

You folks are not being realistic. People that were not even elected by any one took over the government (Abacha, etc) because they had control of the military, and the courts could do nothing. Now you're asking same courts to remove someone fully in control of the military and police and all levers of government! Won't you be a foolish judge indeed to issue such rulling?!

dazzlingd:
The only thing that will remove Tinubu from that seat is possibly death.
Let’s face reality, I have never heard anywhere in the world where this happened not to talk of Africa.
Even when trump was impeached, he finished his tenure
Life is not a nollywood where the good guys always defeat the bad guys. Or expecting a plot twist like movies. This is real life

Nigerians are sooo STUPID! It's as if they assume the judges are robots and not human beings, and corrupt human beings at that!
Just a LITTLE reflection will tell you there is NO WAY on earth those judges will rule to remove Tinubu.
A further reflection will tell you that come 2027, totally corrupt Tinubu (MC Oluomo) being in control of INEC, NPF, and military, there's no way he'd lose - even if only 10% of the population supports him!

Taylor90:
I want to APC supporters a simple question


Why is your principal so scared and conscious of an election he won free and fair?

Just answer me this

Nigerians are sooo dumb. What signs do you have they are scared?? I am staunchly OBIDIENT but I don't understand you people. You really think those judges are independent and will rule according to the law?? These are people that grew up with corruption all around them and are part of the totally corrupt, man-know-man Nigerian legal system. Plus they were appointed by the same APC you want them to vote to remove and hand you power. These are the the people you are counting on to rule to remove a sitting president!!
NIGERIANS ARE SERIOUSLY DELUDED!!!

faceland:
Elon is the billionaire that would propose a project, then register a new (and sperate) company for the project, then start selling over-inflated share for this imaginary project.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRFr4hrFPM8
After buying Twitter (with shares from his company), he promising you thousands of dollars if you give him seven dollars. Many mugus would fall for this. He is promoting Twitter Blue (or verified subscriber). If advertising revenue was in thousand why does he need consumers $7?

Read what he said. He said IF some companies verify they'd make thousands in additional revenue

Leggodeals:
Yea you are right. Are you a Christian? In Christianity we believe true life for humans comes after death. I. e death is the only passage to life. And this death isn't even the physical one, that's how complex it appears. Its a big world governed by principles and laws...in giving we receive, in dying we live indeed

Well said. Of course I'm a Christian (ok, I say "of course" and I know it doesn't necessarily follow). But even without being a Christian one sorta senses what you're saying. Though I think what Christ meant was dying to the world - not actual physical death. Just as when he said let the dead bury their own dead. Those he referred to as dead were not actually physically dead!

Leggodeals:
Thanks a lot. You are awesome

Thanks dear, you too. There seems to be underlying paradoxical rules governing this life - in giving you actually receive. Maybe in dying you actually... ok maybe that's taking it too far!

Leggodeals:
That's so true. With this type of mindset you would be saved from many troubles/temptations. It's so refreshing to see someone with the right mentality toward's life no wonder you can be liberal in giving. Its nice. Keep it up

You too my dear, keep up the good work

Leggodeals:
I did already, inspiring

Ain't it? And come to think of it, you really don't need money to be KIND to somebody. Sometimes just a kind word or gesture does more than money can do!

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Leggodeals:
A nice principle you live by sir. I would adopt fully cos that's what makes life beautiful, when we see fulfillment in making others better. Like you have made me, smiling since morning oo haha

I tell you. We don't really give anything in this life. Because when you give you're actually receiving! This life paradoxical. Giving is actually receiving!
Besides you can't really give anything because you don't really own anyhing. Those things were here when you came and would be here when you leave!

Leggodeals:
Interesting, would definitely look it up!!! 🙂

Nothing to look up. Just click the link and watch the 30 second video

DrDeuce:
Hello sir. Please im not the op. I'm surprised to see my details splattered everywhere on this thread after pleading for privacy. I just asked for help too as I'm struggling in school. If you can kindly remove my name from your quotes I would be grateful sir. Thank you

All done. But probably too late already, social media being what it is. What a price to pay for even 500K.
But, so what, you did not rob or kill anybody!

ibechris:
U must be very lucky to be among this age brackets.

ibechris where is my beer?
I singlehandedly brought two of your "dead" threads to Frontpage!😃

ibechris:
Pls, there is a growing menace of friends poisoning their friends at beer parlours, lounge or bars.

ibechris where is my beer?
I singlehandedly brought two of your "dead" threads to Frontpage!😃

NEUDUDE:
Do you even know what anthrax is? or you are just throwing the word anyhow because you heard it somewhere lol

There are poisons that can be inhaled to death without touching the person. Anthrax is one, strychnine another

Leggodeals:
Yea, challenge won 🤝🎉

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Thanks for helping give me this idea - it feels so satisfying doing it. This short below is right!

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gabmanuel:
That's the effect of Kakistocracy...


End time Kakistocracy

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Leggodeals:
awww He sent it, he sent it, he sent it oooooo.

Thanks dear, Chai you are a man of your words🤭

Of course I sent it. Big, fat, hairy deal!

Leggodeals:
Hi!! Thanks!!

U wcm. Got it. Thanks

Leggodeals:
LOL that's true oo

So you don't have to go to the trouble of deleting and posting

purples25:
The brutal truth is that nothing guarantees anything.

Well said.
So r u a supermodel?😎