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Ferdinandu: Jobless policemen.[b]The law is against same sex marriage and anything other than that they are just wasting our money for just being idle.[/b]If it is Armed robbers now or Boko Haram they will run faster than Hussein Bolt.Arresting Gay People for just being Gay is just Discrimination, after-all their lifestyle is not disturbing any other person's Life.Though Homo Sexuality is morally wrong according to our two main religion but Constitutionally we are regarded as a secular state so I don't know the reason why things which should be a religious issue should be such a big issue. For Pete'sake we have too much problem in this country to be worrying about bunch of abnormal human beings who does not want to live their life the way God said they should do it.Somebody whose house is burning can't be pursuing rat .

No, you better be guided.

14 year jail term awaits any homosexual in Nigeria.

It's called Sodomy.

Death by stoning awaits any homosexual caught in Northern Nigeria practicing sharia.

The law is already there.

So you won't go and mess your life up.

The one you might be referring to has not become law yet.

It has just passed in the House of Representatives.

They will harmonize with the one passed earlier by the Senate.

Then it will be presented to the president for assent.

Then it'll become an offense in Nigeria for homosexuals to marry.

You can relocate to any of those countries where they accept your behaviour.

Don't test our resolve.

abagoro: The law does not prohibit same sex intimacy provided none of the parties was forced. The law is against marriage. The whole court proceeding is illegal.

You are deceiving yourself.

There's a 14 year jail term for SODOMY in Nigeria.

It is death in Northern Nigerian Sharia Compliant States.

pazienza: I think you are the one that is being blinded by your bigotry.
The guy never implied that being against gay discrimination would lead to the end of black discrimination,but he rightly put it to you that it would be hypocritical to be against black discrimination while on the other hand supporting the discrimination of another group.

The relationship between racism and gay discrimination?

1, both stems from inability to understand and tolerant a 'difference'.

Your open-mindedness endangers the existence of humanity.

Black is a race.

Homosexuality is a degenerate behaviour.

It's not even a tribe or ethnic group like being Jewish for instance.

That's the difference that cannot be tolerated.

blkmum700: Are you joking or serious?I don't know when russian start living on US nd EU aid,oga read before u talk!

The guy is only being sarcastic.

There's a loool in that comment.

dare2think: You are letting your hatred for the group becloud your objectivity. Double standard is when you are being discriminated by your oppressor, yet you join the oppressor in discriminating another group. Follow that logic.

Ok, from your Logic 101

It's safe to say that you are letting your avowed love for homosexuals (and homosexuality) inform your rationality.

That because you are tolerant of this behaviour (or group as you call them), your oppressor will somehow cease their discrimination of your group. That's daydreaming at best and delusion at worst.

The idea that you are even comparing a race with a degenerate behaviour is very offensive.

It is an insult.

[quote author=CROWÉ]The same self interest they had when they supported North Korea, what a beautiful trend, then there's the communist nations of South America, How dictators and Tyrants seem to always gravitate towards the Russians.[/quote]You don't want to go there do you?

Russia (USSR) provided solid/robust support and assistance for the anti-apartheid movement in South Africa when your freedom loving buddies in the West supported that egregious system.

The so-called tyrants and dictators were nurtured and groomed by your friends in the first place.

dare2think: Germany,France, USA and United Kingdom are not the subject matter here. When a thread is opened regarding their views on homosexuality, then we can debate on the issue.

Identifying with a nation that discriminates your color and your kind, but celebrate when they discriminate another group is nothing short of madness and ignorance.

1) No, they are not.

DOUBLE STANDARD is.

DISCRIMINATION is.

And you raised both issues, check.

Just following your logic actually.

2) So what is conveniently ignoring to talk about nations that discriminate against your race and kind because they are simply tolerant of another group?

It's SLAVERY, and it's worse than ignorance and any form of madness.

[quote author=CROWÉ]Who told you that it is because they banned homosexuality that he says that, can you prove that they re otherwise a traditional European country? let me tell you something about Russias policy, the syrian government is killing its people and russia supports them while germany, france, the netherlands, the uk are all supporting the people rebelling against the oppressive government so when someone says russia is not a traditional European country don't go making silly statements. Read the whole thread again, there is no argument that Russia is a cesspool of discrimination and tyranny.


Acceptance of other people and not judging them is something Christianity preaches isn't it? All ye hypocrits, your the ones I am asking.[/quote]No, your analysis of the Syrian situation is one-sided.

Russia is acting in its enlightened self-interest.

Actually you should have gotten acquainted with the issue before alleging silly statement.

BTW, the argument about 'this' or 'that' government is killing its own people is worn.

In view of the new realities, you guys should come up with a new argument.

dabossman: Abi o! But then Russia doesn't go begging them for aid. Naija take note.

Nigeria don't beg any country for aid.

We don't need it.

We are not Malawi.

dare2think: As much as the subject of Gay acceptance is very subjective, I do not think that we ,as Nigerians, should be celebrating discrimination, especially coming from one of the most racist nations on earth.

I hope those of you praising and congratulating Russia on this move are also celebrating Russia's discrimination and resentment of black people in their country. Several Nigerians and ethnic minorities are butchered yearly because Russians are less tolerable of foreigners just as they are less tolerable of Gays.

As much as we may not accept the lifestyles of the Gay community, we must not celebrate their discrimination either. Especially as our race has been one of the most discriminated race in history, a testament that is still very poignant in current times.

Russia's discrimination should not be celebrated regardless of race, gender or orientation. If you feel otherwise, then you must accept the discrimination of the other groups and avoid double standards.

Meanwhile you own double standard is not hidden here as well.

Black people are routinely killed in America and the UK but you chose to ignore that simply because they share your view on homosexuality, i.e. anti-discrimination.

Black people are racially profiled and not properly integrated into the system despite centuries of living in those countries.

Germany and France discriminate against blacks as well, yet you didn't mention them in your 'racist nations on earth'. You would have come across as a very anti-discrimination hero had you not conveniently omitted naming the other 'racist nations earth'.

And no, identifying with a nation that share your view on a particular issue is not celebration of discrimination.

Nigeria (people and government) is against homosexuality, Russia (people and government) is against homosexuality, what's wrong with showing affiliation?

blackpanda: Well its not surprising. There's a parallel line btw countries that advocate freedom and the protection of human rights, and those that seek to continously enslave people with no regards for their rights.
Am very sure the whole world knows which group russia falls into. The country is reputed as a home to some of the most ruthless tyrants in mankinds history. Certainly this is not a model Nigeria wants to follow. Gays are here to stay. They re our brothers, sisters, friends, relatives and even parents. There's no law anyone can pass to change that. The worst u can do is to make pple hide their relationships

You don't want to test/tempt our resolve do you?

blackpanda: Then following ur analogy, how come more people are migrating to france and germany than russia. Obviously ur assumptions are baseless. Russia is one of the worst countries in terms of per capita income. The only thing they have is nuclear power, that's all

In terms of places for humans to live on this planet, russia is one of the worst. With no regards whatsoever for human rights, a long history of ruthless and tyranical govts and continous suppression of any form of opposition or dissenting views. Heck, nobody wakes up in the morning and prays to find him/herself in russia! Now, america on the other hand is the most sought after places, not jst to visit but to migrate. An american visa is worth more than a million russian visas

No, that's not all.

Google 'gas reserve' and see what they have.

Also, google Gas supplies to Europe and see something else.

You don't have an idea of what you are talking about.

America's human rights record is falling, they can now kill Americans routinely just on mere suspicion of terrorism, and the killing can be anywhere.

It's happening, they have already whacked Anwar Al-Awlaki and some others including a child.

It means, when subjected to what other countries have been subjected to over centuries, i.e. internal violent strives and intolerant ideology, which America had been insulated from, that America will be just like any other tyrannical state.

They are already monitoring all your communication, it means you cannot just be free any more, it's no longer the FREE WORLD capital, it's now a police state, yes like Russia.

Journalists are not insulated from prosecution anymore. They are being hounded left-right-centre for doing their jobs.

Times are changing my brother, many people are renouncing their American citizenship too.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/05/08/67-people-renounced-their-us-citizenship-in-1st-quarter-year-irs-says/

And as economic freedoms that people are seeking become rare as a result of heavy tax burden, many will seek fortunes in many of the developing and frontier markets of the world.

As America continues to insult people's sensibility and irritating people (even their allies like Nigeria and many African countries) by forcing their homosexual ideology on the rest of the world (as if slave-trade is still on), it will become less attractive even to entitlement seekers from the less developed countries.

As good governance is deeply rooted in many countries, opportunities will be presented for citizens to live a good life.

Van snickers: Dumb@ss. You bolded one part of my sentence and read it completely out of context.

You are simply trying to find your 'gene', right?

And the way homosexuals are treated is getting you closer to your 'gene', right?

Chregor: Mehnnnnnnnn, see voting; none of them stray in their resolve to nip this world scourges in the bud.
America and their western counterparts are fraught with weird perverts and reprobates of all calibre. I'm looking forward to [b]hearing from US/UK government to come up with a threat to cut off foreign's aids to the Russian [/b]jst as they have muscled with Nigeria. Sh**holes

Any negative word and a quarter of Europe will be left in deadly cold in winter.

For Africans?

Well, they (the West) don't really believe that slavery and colonization ended long ago.

They won't find things easy this time though.

Good luck to their accomplices.

Van snickers: Hypocrites that can't leave their noses out of other people's lives.
I might not be gay, but the way you people treat homosexuals makes me more Pro-gay everyday.

You are not even sure how you 'are born'.

Is there any way to test your 'gene'?

[quote author=CROWÉ]You are thinking of western nations, Russia is nothing like them, it is more like china were the government and the people are separate and it is heavily oppressive of it own people.

Clearly God is not blessing Russia, he is blessing those soddom and gomorrah nations because by any stretch of the imagination they are all much better than putin prison.[/quote]Seems you are embittered.

Well, the Western government[s] seem to have borrowed the Chinese' template now in dealing their people.

Or did you miss out in the current 'mother of all leaks'?

American government is monitoring its citizens; phone records, internet etc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fadR8jAapWY

Sounds Chinese isn't it?

You talk of oppression?

What is targeted assassination of citizens by government?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/05/obama-kill-list-doj-memo

Seems your Western civilization is collapsing brother.

And you mentioned God's blessings?

'Righteousness exalts a nation'

HAH: This power plant was commissioned by Obasanjo in 2007.

So who is fooling who ?

Geregu I was commissioned earlier.

This is Geregu II.

garyaustin: Dear Femi,
you raised a lot of questions that are begging for answers but i am wondering why those questions did not bug you when you were in power. i am very sure you know most of the answers already having been at the top with the oga that was at the top.
we appreciate your descending from your high class to identify with reality; nigerians. more is expected from you. do not stop.

With due respect to your concern of Femi Fani-Kayode's failure to raise these questions earlier.

He can address that himself.

Nevertheless it's logical that these questions are asked especially now in view of;

a)The 20th Anniversary of June 12 presidential election

b) The ascendancy of Ms Susan Rice to the powerful position of Obama's NSA

It's quite disappointing that the vibrant Nigeria media cannot raise these issues with the Americans all this while.

Henry120: Thank you.

This is the time for nigerians at all level, across party divides, whether PDP or ACN or APC and also intellectuals, should sit down, think and really invest our proceeds from this high oil prices, into developing the development of infrastructure. Particularly, POWER, SEAPORTS, ROADS and RAILS.

However the good news for us is, in 2012 oil accounted for 69% of total government revenue. That's a nice way to start. Of main aim is to push that number down to 50% in 2years, while we maintain our oil out-put at 2.7-3 million barrels a day.


Our strong points at the moment are: financial sector
:telecoms sector
:ICT sector
: agricultural sector.
: mining

these 5 sectors should be our main aim in developing lasting structures and over all growth. These are the sectors were the future of nigerian finances really lay.


The largest consumers of nigerian crude production should be the nigerian people. We are 170million for christ sakes.

Good.

Others are;

Gas

Entertainment

Tourism

Education

[quote author=ShyM-X]It depends on the quantity - the discovery won't stop India and its huge population from importing crude oil for its massive energy needs.

However, Nigeria needs to diversify its economy - 95% reliance on oil for foreign exchange earnings is just ridiculous, tbh.[/quote]True.

It's embarrassing.

360command: There will be oil recession by next year july

What does oil recession mean?

Do you mean oil glut?

sheyie2007: Pls elaborate

Ok, it means we are not earning foreign currency from other activities as we earn from sale of oil.

We can change this by increasing our export of other commodities and services.

sheyie2007: Oil contributes just 14% to our GDP bro... So, we don't entirely depend on it
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Nigeria

agriculture: 40%; services: 30%; manufacturing: 15%; oil: 14% (2012 est.)

True. It fetches us 95% of our foreign currency though.

yelsew80: Giving his account, the CPC state chairman said: “a day to the wedding we received a phone call from General Buhari that he will visit Bauchi because he was invited to the wedding at the Emir’s Palace in Bauchi. “General Buhari said he wanted a low profile visit since it was private. He arrived Bauchi airport in a chartered flight from Kaduna at about 10:15am and we received him together with government protocol officials.

General Buhari asked for a low profile reception and got exactly that.

What is the problem here?

BTW, who is funding this chattered flights up and down?

They told us he's a man of modest means.

Nooooooooooooo!!!

This is unthoughtful.

Do these guys even bother to learn the art of public speaking and presentation?

Common!

How could any Nigerian who wants to be taken seriously not pause and take a deep breath before responding to questions when Gani Fawehinmi's name is mentioned?

I mean, we are not talking about hiding behind the internet wall to write stuffs, you are actually putting your face to it.

And after the damage has been done, don't they know anything about damage control?

How could anybody compare a protest at an airline office with liberation struggles championed by preeminent freedom fighters?

It smacks of vainglory.

He is still even talking about foreign media.

Is this how uncouth he'll be with the so-called foreign media?

Man mi, you need nothing less than a 2 (two) year tutoring in public speaking.

If they are not tweeting silly comments about Jesus, they are making comments on what they don't know anything about.

bobthebuilder99: ABEG, be quiet about culture. Hate is not a culture.

How are gay people bothering you, or keeping you from living your life? Leave them be.

There are riots in London demanding that all Nigerians be thrown out of the country. Do you support those riots too?

Hello, you don't have an idea what culture is do you?

Criminalizing an evil behavior is not hating.

It's protecting our society from decadence.

You mean how are homosexuals bothering me?

They practice evil.

Evil is inimical to the growth and sustenance of the society.

bobthebuilder99: Science says that people are born gay, so what is a law going to do?

Depending on who authors the 'science'

'Science' also claimed that Blacks have lower IQ than Whites.

So much for science.

We know no one is born a homosexual.

Just like we know Blacks routinely beat Whites in many intelligent endeavors.

matrixme: This country just sinks into depths of mediocrity daily. The headlines one day would read "I have done well, says Jonathan", the next day, the Senate would approve anti-gay laws. Yet, a lot of people feeling good about these news are unemployed and probably not well fed. This is a country whereby popular baby factories have been recently uncovered whereby young girls would actually sell their babies for money, yet we think we are more morally upright than some 'western' countries whose citizens would not even dare a thing like that. Even the religious bodies that acts as advocates for the marriage institution has a social justice system that is perverted. We either kill innocent people or live extravagantly and insensitive about the plight of the poor all in the name of God. Our country is deeply entrenched in corruption, insecurity, poverty, educational deprivation, lack of infrastructures and quality health services, yet we are silent on any of these pressing issues. We just like ostriches burying our heads in the sand,denying the reality in our lives by appearing morally relevant, yet, our butt is glaring to all. We will see how far this gets us!

Take a look at this.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/28582/kermit-gosnell-abortion-doctor-charged-with-8-counts-of-murder

And this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22459435

Mind you, these went on for years before they were busted.

We don't know how many of such are going on presently.

Alfa Seltzer: Too late. The world has gone far too gay for Nigeria to do anything about it. Wait till they start giving state banquet and reception to foreign gay presidents and dignitaries. Na so arab people misbehave with anti-women law and US sent them a female secretary of state, Madeleine Albright. See their people they look them for TV dey bow for Madeleine, dey throw red carpet for her, dey salute her.

...And then several years after sent their president to bow and apologize for all their wrongs.

How could you have missed that?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY

barcanista: i've been reading comments here that are both pro-gay and anti-gay. But i insist that 14 years is too lenient on homosexuals, it should be DEATH PENALTY. i barcanista will play my part in making life unbearable for any person or group of persons that publicly attempt to practice or promote homosexuality in my area. I barcanista will mobilize youths to lynch and brutally kill such individual or individuals no matter how highly placed they are. homosexuality is worse than terrorism, it destroys basic family culture and values, hence it must be terminated off the Nigerian soil by any means whether legitimate or through JUNGLE JUSTICE. God bless Naija 4eva

Please don't take the laws into your hands.

It is exactly to prevent this type of thing (JUNGLE JUSTICE) that the law has been enacted.

No, nobody will risk the public shaming by daring to come out in Nigeria.

The other person who attempted to use the public media for such nonsense had her career jeopardized.

godunia: u re right my friend.these people exist amongs us but how do u prosecute them without a law?[b]if u arrest a homosexual today with what wld u charge him? For adultery?[/b]mmmm.well its a crime to rob yet there are still armed robbers but if they re caught,they no what wld happen to them.same goes for homo/gay stuff.trust naija police,de wont fail to interpret d law beyond what is lawful.gays or whatever u call yrself STAY clear,if u re caught mmmmmmm

Actually there exist laws against homosexuality in Nigeria already.

The penalty is death in the Sharia compliant states of the North.

In the rest of the country it is 14 years imprisonment maximum.

This current bill seeks to criminalize homosexual marriage in essence.

Our law makers actually moved a step ahead of the perversion that is current roving through the whole world before they bring their nonsense here.

They are currently charged for Sodomy.

And mind you, many have been charged and convicted under that law.

sac010: Bros, do you know how hard it is to be gay in this life? The stigma, the lying, the pain. Trust me if anyone could choose to be gay no body would be gay.

In addition, I hope you know that homophobia is more recent in human history than homosexuality. In ancient Rome, it was perfectly acceptable for men to take male lovers. it was seen as a show of power. Rich African women of days past have been known to marry other women. People were gay before there was a devil and they will be gay no matter how illegal it is or how closed minded and near sighted majority of their country men are.

You are deceiving yourself.

This is the sort of excuses criminals resort to when caught in an act of crime.

They blame everything and everyone but themselves.

Homosexuality is an addiction.

It's just a bad thing you picked up somewhere and is now finding acceptance in friends doing the same thing and telling you that you are not capable of controlling your urge.

It is false. They don't mean well for you because they are lying.

You may take advantage of the resources available for you if you chose to.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/31/gay-cure-app_n_3365681.html

http://www.settingcaptivesfree.com/setting-captives-free-mobile-app/

You can control your mind, you are a human being not an animal.

You have to take responsibility for your life.

Those urging you on have their own agenda.

Be strong and be a man.

Your mind is made for constructive ventures not for perversion and destruction.

Homosexuality will ruin and destroy your life if you don't fight it now.

Homosexuality is as ancient as we can imagine, but it has always been wrong/abnormal/evil.