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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by postmann:
AHCB:
tell me about it?
grin grin grin

She once said to me, with pride overflowing in her weak veins, "I am half European, a mixed child".

Like that was some ticket to prosperity. And I wonder how low her self worth truly is.

She must have offered her kitty to just about any scum whose skin colour shares semblance to a pig''s.
Foreign AffairsRe: Trump To Reporter: 'you Are A Terrible Person' by postmann:
Fadedvoiced:
Gone to where?

Honestly,your stupidity is legendary .

To become or support democrats dumbness and hate is required.

Since 2015 you've been obsessed with trump instead of you to focus on yourself !

Your husband left you in the most emotionally devastating way 3years ago yet you don't want to have sense.



Cc crackh.aus Eld.er001 postm.ann
I'm hardly surprised by her posture. She's one of many who sold their dignity to the fleeting promise of a fool's dream.

Trump is the rude awakening from her delusions -- that even her claim to a mixed race is not enough to anchor her greedy soul on the white man's racial tempest.




By the way @fadedvoiced, you're same as elder. I wonder what your discord is with mindfulness since you guys share a lot in common.
PoliticsRe: Eneh Victor Chigozie Arrested For Criticising Chinedu Obidigwe. Photos by postmann:
pastie:
The more you trying sound intelligent the more stup!d you become,

if the north is being control by the moon, typically you are far descendant of descendant moon worshiping.
The last time I checked, your generations are been controlled by the so called moon worshipers.
You broke into the internet by simple access to data, not by intellectual standing.

Reading your quote, interspersed with grammatical bloopers reminds me how a certificate-less herder emerged as a ruler.

Bovine encephalopathic imbecilé like you.
PoliticsRe: Eneh Victor Chigozie Arrested For Criticising Chinedu Obidigwe. Photos by postmann: 1:41pm On Nov 16, 2018
pastie:
This can only happen in Igbo land, try this nonsense up north and pay the dearly price.

Humiliation and bigotry is what they don't tolerate.
First, get a proper education then you can make your point without sounding like a cow trying too hard to be human.

And the north, your Leader who controls you all is being controlled by the moon.

Celestial zombies.
FamilyRe: You're My Daughter But He Is My Son by postmann(op): 10:26pm On Nov 05, 2018
2buffagain:
@postmann archaic fellow.
Ladies wit precious dreams need to open their eyes before they marry sha, or they will end up with men like the OP.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyfpYrYa6eQ?t=842
What do I call this? Stalking? Or I found a new devotee in you?

Whatever it is, you need to give me a quit notice off your head.
FamilyRe: You're My Daughter But He Is My Son by postmann(op): 10:22pm On Nov 05, 2018
travelland:
Must be an Igbo man that wrote this. Your daughter is supposed to be for a season in your mentality but when it's time to beg for money, you'll do it off and on season grin
What has tribe got to with it? I thought for all your "civilization", you could have spared me the horrors of your discourtesy.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 1:09am On Nov 04, 2018
Elder0001:
Trying to get something sensible from bible for your argument will be futile because the Bible itself was written by sexist and misogynist men to glorify themselves.

Feminism and religion whether Christian ?islam,Hinduism ,bhuddism or whatever can't work together because they all practice the systemic degradation of women.
Thou darkest of warlocks and son of the Babylonian harlot, your blood is as souless as that of a chicken. That's why the devil got you so cheaply by throwing some few grains of corn your way.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 12:44am On Nov 04, 2018
bukatyne:
I was expecting the feminism part. No disappointment.

First, I do not see how equal opportunities for women is anti Christ.

Again, I know this discussion is always divided between career/staying at home however, it is a wrong approach.

Most people (men & women) don't have careers: they have jobs they work to pay the bills.

Everyone is created for two purposes:
1. Worship God
2. Individual/distinct purposes.

We are all expected to put the will of God/ our purposes over personal ambitions. Part of which will be a good wife/husband/child/patent/neighbour/colleague/customer etc. so that our testimony will not be ruined.

Besides how can a woman's calling be wifehood and motherhood when these relationships end on earth and we are spiritual beings?

For example, Esther was to save the Jew's, Mary was to birth the saviour etc. Do you think these women would have said to me successful if they failed at these duties?

I asked you some questions on another thread which I will try to respond to tomorrow.
Question number 1

Every earthly institution created by GOD has a divine purpose and implications. Earthly institutions were created to help us understand and serve GOD better. For "Although he was the Son, he learned obedience from what he suffered." Hebrew 5:8

For GOD CALLED HIMSELF A FATHER. HE gave us earthly fathers and commanded us to honour them that we might learn to honour HIM.

CHRIST called us HIS bride and HE the GROOM. If we truly understand the authority and corresponding responsibility the groom has over the bride, our relationship with CHRIST would be richer.

There is no place for the disobedient in the kingdom of GOD. if you cannot obey the earthly parents you see, you cannot obey the FATHER you cannot see. And if you can't be submissive to your earthly husband as commanded by GOD, you can't be submissive to your CHRIST your heavenly husband.


Question 2

These women succeeded in their calling because they were completely obedient to their husbands.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 12:25am On Nov 04, 2018
Elder0001:
How someone still possess this kind of disgusting mentality in 2018 is beyond me...
How's the search for bleaching cream going?
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
bukatyne:
1. This competitive nature is beyond me. And it is not godly.
Men don't compete with women. It's usually the other way round. No woman is satisfied stuck with a lesser ambitious man. It's biologically encoded in you guys.

bukatyne:
. Oh, quit the drama; women siting at home watching their kids grow does not necessarily produce good results.
Am i supposed to consider this a valid excuse for absentee mothers who waste their breast milk in the office sink while the infant is fed refined goat milk laced with harmful preservatives?

bukatyne:
And for anyone to be a success, the person (male or female) has to succeed in all areas of his/ her life.
"All areas of life" with varying degrees of priority. "Nothing separates a mother from her child." Not even career!


bukatyne:
And sir, it is actually men/fathers who are tasked with training their children /impacting/ transferring knowledge. We all know how Eli turned out.
Husbands are to instruct, wives are to pass down the instructions. Especially when the children are still tender.
bukatyne:
She works from home? Did anybody in their time work from an office apart from judges and priests? Rising up at dawn to inspect a field doesn't sound like the work from home you have in mind.
Sure they did. Some worked at the temple, some in palace.

Having to inspect a field and see how it's turning out doesn't represent a woman who wakes up every morning rushing out to get to the office before 8am of which failure will attract a query. If anything, it represents a woman with all the leisure and time in world.
bukatyne:
. The father sent the boy home to his mother? The mother was on the farm with him.
2 kings 4 : 18-20

The child grew, and one day he went out to his father, who was with the reapers. 19 He said to his father, “My head! My head!”

His father told a servant, “Carry him to his mother.” 20 After the servant had lifted him up and carried him to his mother, the boy sat on her lap until noon, and then he died.

There is no indication whatsoever that the father and mother were at the farm together. Rather it was the father and the boy who were at the farm. Vs 21 reads; she went up and lay him on the bed of the man of GOD indicating she was home.

I know feminist have their own bible, I just hope you're not quoting the scriptures from there. grin

bukatyne:
And apart from slaves, nobody had the employer/employer relationship we have today. And it is a myth to think that doing your own thing will give you more time except we are talking selling sweets in front of the house.

5. A woman's first point of duty is neither her home nor career: it is what she has been destined to be.
I said a woman who is married her first call is her home. Not just any woman. And this is scriptural.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 11:04pm On Nov 03, 2018
bukatyne:
If you say so.

Do you have anyone for sale?
You know you can't have one leg in Christianity and the other leg outside. For there is no room for feminism in Christianity.

Titus 2 : 3-5

Likewise, teach the older women to be reverent in the way they live, not to be slanderers or addicted to much wine, but to teach what is good. 4 Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, 5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

"To be busy at home". Not necessarily being a house wife but putting her family first over her personal ambition.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 10:52pm On Nov 03, 2018
IamD18:
In other words. The holy bible instructed us to sell humans into marriage?
Hmmm!!!

Wisdom!!!
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
[quote author=bukatyne post=72661371][/quote]Nothing wrong with an ambitious woman save she marries a man with a matching ambition.

You're in grave error if you measure a woman's success outside her role as a good and dutiful wife and mother. Most of them sacrificed their families for their career. And the result is wayward children exposed to drugs and indecencies at a very tender age.

The woman of prov 31 puts her family first. And yes, she works from home and she controls her time not her employers.

Remember the rich woman when her son was sick while at the farm with his father? The father sent the boy home to his mother. She didn't have to seek and wait for permission from a superior in her workplace before attending to her son.

To each his own like you said, but for women married their first call of duty is home not career.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
2buffagain:
So in summary, the "wisdom" you are passing on is:
- Do not marry any woman that seems like she has a brain. Always opt for the stupid one to be on the safe side.
- If she has a job and eventually starts earning more from it than you make, get her fired or get her to quit. Who send her message?
- If she has a business that she is exceling at, scatter it. How dare she?

I never knew that men are now supposed to be doing the work of Satan in their wives' lives.

To each their own man.
The more I endure this conversation, the more I thank God I wasn't raised to be as evil as the seemingly average Nigerian man.
Creating a hyperbolic representation of my statement is a distraction from the man you are; a man overwhelmed and defeated by the challenges he encountered. A man who being confronted with a challenge takes the easiest way out.

You're no different from the medieval slave drivers, you're just draped in a modern apparel and i know a handful of tribes here in Nigeria whose women are known for hard work but cursed with lazy, stargazing pancies who would rather seat comfortably while their wives labour to feed them. I believe you're a seed from one of those tribes.

Feminism to you is a financial bailout. Sit your lazy ass down while your wife after going through all the disruption of pregnancy and childbirth, still crawl back and beat you down in getting that doe. You're better off castrated than be identified as a man. Effeminate weakass doofus!

Amongst your in-laws, you'd be regarded as a good for nothing leech who is relegated to the lowest of stools during family meetings because you add no value to them. They gave you their daughter (after paying peanuts) you fûcked her for free, she gave you children and pay your bills. She is the least proud amongst her sisters because you bring her no honour.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 7:52pm On Nov 03, 2018
ShaqFu:
that's the truth she'll never accept.

She's the complete definition of house wife offline, and feminist online.

Women like her cower at the beckon of their saviour, sorry husband.

What do you think would have become of her if her husband hadn't rescued her from the ramshackle life she was living in Owerri.

I'm sure peeps like the Lordsapostle would have sampled her number without times. grin

Cc: iamd18.
Kikikikikikikiki!!!

FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 7:08pm On Nov 03, 2018
Seahawk:
You’re speaking something above their mindset.
Imagine telling a control freak to give up their source of control. That’s like telling an addict to quit cold turkey.

Someone who wants to have financial power over another person so that can they can dictate how their lives should be will NEVER agree with you. You’re pouring water on stone.
So, you're cococandy? Kikikiikiiikiki!

It's been long I whooped your ass!

It's so ironic how you became a notorious feminist when you're a complete specimen of your husband's financial experiment!

grin grin grin
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 7:02pm On Nov 03, 2018
Elder0001:
Protection from misogynistic pigs like pos_tmann
Elder0001, the great feminist crusader who advance the course of women in exchange for half his financial obligation. Sounds like a good deal, doesn't it?
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
2buffagain:
Nobody said they will not financially support their wife sah.
The emboldened is the only anchorable logical point you have made towards our discussion.

Now, what if her "work for pleasure" places her far above you in wealth as it dwarfs your relatively meager provisions?
It is not a sin when one's wife "happens' to be richer. It is the acceptance thereof that is.

An abnormality doesn't happen per chance. Human negligence usually creates it. In this context (the imbalance of financial distribution between a man and his wife in favour of the woman) the man Usually causes it by ignoring certain factors during courtship. Like signs that she has bigger ambition (for money). As a naive fellow, you may ask what's wrong with that.

Women by nature are attracted to and look forward to marrying men who are richer and a sure bet in providing comfort and security. Except for few occasions, they marry "less" when age or other unfavorable factors become a conditioner.
Statistics comes to my aid, proving me right that such union is twice as unlikely to succeed.



2buffagain:
What will you attach your ego to then?
From your rhetoric, it seems this will be unacceptable to you as you would lack the tools/mindset to proceed upon such a situation.

The brand of manhood I am encouraging you to see is immune to such things because it is anchored to far more immutable things.
A brand much needed in THIS era, where women achieve as much as or sometimes more than men....not always less, as you are obviously used to.
These women need not be lonely or made to feel unloved/unlovable simply because they earn much more than you. That is a pointless and wicked torture.
Being a man, nay a husband is far much more than putting food on the table and providing security for the family. They're plenty of natural (and if you may, spiritual) benefits that comes with it.

There are emotional and intellectual differences between both sexes and irrespective of some doctored research, men triumph in virtually all discipline. Look at the world around you -- it is MAN MADE!!! Except you're struck with cerebral palsy there's no excuse why you shouldn't lead your wife in finance, wisdom and intelligence.

After all, she gave you several headstart with all the natural impediments that holds the female folk down.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 4:33pm On Nov 03, 2018
2buffagain:
Sha sha May your wife sha not come into a major inheritance or achieve great financial gains. smiley
Is this the reason you seek marriage -- to rest your financially weary and battered shoulders on her? I see her overtaken by premature wrinkles and fatigue by the sheer size of your masculine biceps.


I see her placing you and your children as secondary to her career while your housemaid is elevated to a mom status in the eyes of your innocent children who are exposed to all manners of indecency because daddy was a brainwashed leech who sent mom out on the street to make him some doe.

I see your wife staring lustfully at her boss wishing he was you. "Oh, such glaring contrast in personalities", she mutters under her breath as she considers his towering stature over your minuscule and wretched mindset. She dresses for work every morning with him on her mind, not for the toy husband she left at home.

2buffagain:
May she be poorer than you and 100% dependent on you for all things. smiley
May she be fired whenever it seems like her income is about to go over your own. smiley
May her business scatter whenever it develops the liver to want to supercede your relatively meager income. cheesy

You still haven't said "Amen"...sah. grin
She's blessed whoever she be. She (will) rests her delicate head on my manly shoulders while I weather the storm for her. The sun ray is but a stranger to her countenance as she's spared from the neo-cultural slavery her female counterparts are being exposed to by men like you who have been beaten down by laziness.

She works for pleasure and not for pressure. She sings her children to sleep free from fatigue and she rises up in the morning kissing my lips with the calm assurance of a gallant woman who got my home covered when I go out to bring in the spoils.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 9:08am On Nov 03, 2018
IamD18:
You are too wise to be arguing back and forth with those emotional folks. I expected one of them to counter the emboldened, but what did they do? They highlighted the part of your comment that will suit them even without countering it logically.

Stress no more Buddy.

The first person you quoted is a married feminist wannabe who I can bet married either or provision or protection that's why she tagged that part of your comment out. Serious, you shouldn't take her because her online persona reeks different from WHO I KNOW SHE IS IN REALITY.

The second person is obviously sick and confused which we both can attest to.

The third person hails from a certain region that detests Igbos, check his previous comments to confirm. He's not arguing with a free mind but with hatred for IGBOS.


Stress no more.
Thanks for revealing the profiles of those individuals who have been swept adrift by the floods of moral decadence.

Elder seems worst. The dude seems plagued by many demons chief amongst which is the demon on gender identity crisis.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
Seahawk:
Are you okay?
2buffagain:
Then my friend, I pray your wife never becomes wealthier than you.
Your ego is bound to fickle, easily-broken things.
Elder0001:
You need help.

No sane woman will get married to you
You guys are acting traumatized by my submission while evading the truth therein -- which is NO WOMAN EXISTS OR EVER EXISTED WHO DOESNT NEED EITHER OF THOSE FROM A MAN.

And if your wife doesn't need them from you, she sure Would need them from another man, making you a glorified toy-husband who is worth less than a sack of rotten tomatoes.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
Elder0001:
Answer the damn question or keep shut forever.

Can you marry a woman who has no need for your provision and protection?
No self-respecting man marries a woman who neither needs his provisions or protection. And no one woman exists or ever existed that never needed at least one of those from a man.

I understand your desire for a superwoman who pays your bills, takes your semen, goes through 9 months of gestation for you and tears her vulva while pushing out a baby. While you go from one shopping to another looking for the latest bleaching cream.

Gender-compromised piece of human filth like you.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
Elder0001:
Nothing provokes me more than seeing your senseless,primitive,delusional and misogynistic comments on my threads.

A fool like you will never learn.

Traditions were made by men and men alone not women . They can be changed when they've outlived their usefulness.

I blame women who allows fools to sell them off .
Yet you can't help tagging me to your threads even though you know I always come with a knife.

You sound like one raised by a single mom or someone with daddy issues.

First, traditions were not made by men. The Western culture you love to copy like a blind bat has its tradition rooted in Christianity. E.g Monogamy, Adultery and the rule of law. Most historical records of tribes and people will tell you that their first rulers were of divine nature and their traditions were drawn from divine encounters. This coincides with the bible who had GOD ALMIGHTY as the ruler before appointing SPIRIT-filled leaders like Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua etc, all having an unusual measure of HIS divinity. And so tradition was born through divine encounters.

I'm sorry but you're shallow even in matters that concerns your passion. Laden with unresolved personal traumas, you're unable to separate your feelings from reality.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann: 10:24pm On Nov 02, 2018
2buffagain:
I guess, by this your analogy, couples like the Kenneth Copelands, etc have not married and are just doing boyfriend /girlfriend because there was no brideprice.

I am a christian too, but I won't go as far as trying to over-spiritualize the wind saying "because there was no brideprice (or father not given a chance to refuse it), they haven't married".

The only thing God cares about is that 2 people come together to agree that THIS is what they want.
When a thing that is MERELY symbolic becomes an excuse for standard greed, then it has outlived its usefulness.

Again, with this mindset you also demonize women who make their own money (possibly more than the man) and that they cannot marry or be happy....because they bring more resources into the marriage. You have yet to address this from the previous thread on this subject.
I'll refrain from castigating a race for its tradition. Let the emboldened be limited to those whose tradition supports it. Africans, unlike their Jewish and Arab counterparts are unaware of their cultural superiority to the West. Too bad most have fallen for the glitz and glamour that's being projected from their TV screens.

While the Bride makes her choice on whom to marry, her parents' blessing is crucial.

Your last paragraph is beyond the scope of this thread.
FamilyRe: Negative Consequences Of Bride Price Payment On Women by postmann:
Elder0001:
They can't roast you alive.

It is a known fact that the igbos aren't the only tribe that sell their daughters like properties in the name of bride price.

All African countries have tribes that participate in this degradation of women.

Be it North Africa ,eastern or central Africa.
I won't have the luxury of time to sift through your post line for line but you lack spirituality. This is the foundation of all your problems.

Someone said bride price is a biblical injunction but you countered by saying there's nothing biblical about bride price. I wasn't surprised.

It is not within human capacity to set moral benchmarks because man is first self-seeking, bias and makes decisions based on his feelings which are subject to emotions. So permit me to say you display crass ignorance when you question a tradition as old as creation because it has been corrupted by some people.

Because of your limited sensibility, you exist as purely blood and tissue, and mainly function on the physical plain. It is impossible for your kind to understand the spiritual aspect of marriage.

Bride price is more of a spiritual rite than monetary exchange. In the spiritual connotation, the husband replaces the Bride's father as the provider, protector and source of identity and nothing goes for nothing in the spiritual realm. For such a transition to occur there must be some rituals (with spiritual undertone) which the bride price constitutes a part of. Without it no woman is properly married except the Bride's father forgoes it.

When the foundation of your perceptions is based on how you feel, you open yourself up to insatiable lust for unhealthy ideologies which tickle your fantasy but lack the power to satisfy. Like a boundless cloud you keep oscillating in an endless cycle of rebellion, looking for new twists. The old foundation may look unattractive but its root goes deeper than any other and those who built their principles on it survive the storms of the times.

I'll conclude by saying that it was completely irresponsible of you to stigmatize a tribe for its custom.

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