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donpata:
So I Don turn slowpoke eh Fish-brain? Rubbished rubbish. You are probably unmarried and if you are, I pity your husband. We are talking abt real issues and you are here talking abt impracticable things. My wife makes alot of decisions on her own and I don't even need to get involved. What is 21st century abt love and respect? I understand from Scripture that in the last days, people will question the position of scripture. I ain't thus surprise if u think it is outdated.

Because u are unanalytical, u dont understand the importance of the man's veto power. So if they both have varying opinions abt an issue they shld keep arguing over it? Or u want them to invite a third party to hear and give judgement? That means that major decisions will be stalled until negotiations are concluded. Who does that? You are making it look as if submission entails that decisions abt what the wife shld even say, cook or wear must be vetted by the husband. That is slavery and that is far from biblical wisdom.

The Bible is clear. There can't be two masters. THE MAN WAS NOT MADE FOR THE WOMAN. RATHER, THE WOMAN WAS MADE FOR THE MAN 1cor 11:9. On a harsher note, Yes, your Husband "Owns'' you. You are his ''Property''. Divorce is like pure water in the West cos of all these feminism palaver. I understand clearly that my wife ain't my slave. I treat her like a partner. I ask her of her opinion soo many times. She sometimes pressure me to accept her opinion even when I feel differently. However, she understands that she is under my care and watch and that I still got the veto power.
I think that as someone rightly pointed out, ur environment may be influencing ur thoughts abt submission. I grew in an environment where I saw real love and respect. My mum was never treated like a slave. She had her freedom. Reasonably great freedom. So stop making submission look like a 21st day slavery. It is so only to those who don't understand it.

Dont marry if u don't want to submit. If you are passionate abt a child, get a sperm donor and live life to the fullest with all the freedom u can get. I am done teaching ur myopic and ignorant self.


TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, EVEN IN 1000YRS TO COME, IT WILL STILL BE A MAN'S WORLD. IF YOU CANT TAKE IT, in Oshos voice, ''Go and Die''.

Sterling!

Hanseel1:
You are right.

Your meme is dead on arrival. You've been hopelessly engaged with me for several hours in a feverish attempt at salvaging your honour.

You're so intellectually hollow!!

Hanseel1:
The fact that you don't respect women says a lot about you.

I won't insult your mother because I'm a man of honor, I know my worth.


Fool.

You're a fraud. A dishonest lout. You insulted my mother that's why I nailed your mother like a found out trollop caught in a stranger's bed.

You stink of hypocrisy.

Mindfulness:
Nope, I am half European, a mixed child, very beautiful. See how dumb you are.

That makes you a lonely piggy in the middle. You're not white enough to belong in a 1st class European category and not black enough to be taken seriously.

You're a racially compromised piece of biological experiment.

Hanseel1:
Coward, seun forced me to swear allegiance to Allah before I can comment in Muslim threads.

By now you should be sensible enough to know that you can't comment in a Muslim thread without having that statement on your profile.

You keep setting new standards for a man devoid of honour. So you swore allegiance to a false god just to comment on a forum.

Your father must be the most unfortunate idiot amongst his kinsmen for birthing a dishourable bastard like you.

Mindfulness:
I live in Europe you simpleton.

As just another African refugee with little or no dignity.

Hanseel1:
As you want women to be subjected to subservience -so shall your daughters and all females in your lineage (born and unborn) will be treated like slaves because of their gender.

For denigrating women -your wife shall triumph above you and you shall eat your words

Cursed be the womb you came from! Cursed be the day you were born!

Tyrannical BASTARD

You're the seminal culmination of your mother's sexual immodesty. The product of whoredom.

Your mother's ovum served as the village sperm-barn where every communal drunk came to deposit the unspent desires of their lustful passion.

May your daughters be doubly cursed with the burden of a man and a woman.

May they slave for the men in their lives,

may they age before their time and may their youth pass away as swift as a darting shadow because they are cursed with lazy idiots like you who pass the burden of his responsibility to a woman.

Hanseel1:
You mother would be dissapointed wherever she is right now.

She was happy when you were born only for you to turn back on your gender and encourage the enslavement of women by men.
The bible, Christianity and all religions don't mean well for women. Trust me, if you really care about women, stop practicing a fake religion that doesn't and won't recognize women and men as equals.

Emotionally and hormonal imbalanced female with the traits of a tyrannical male.

Spits!

Cheap emotional blackmail. Godless reprobate! Your profile attests to Allah.

You are as confused as your gender ambiguity.

Hanseel1:
The guy's stupidity is beyond me I swear
How can a sane mind say Arab immigrants are going to overrun Europe? There are less than 5million Arab Islamic immigrants in Europe presently , so ,how are they going to overrun Europeans and impose their primitive cultures there?

Since your molecular structure is frightenly symmetrical to a female, I never expect you to triumph where women are known to fail woefully.

Your cranium is crammed with feminine worries -- bleaching creme, gossips and fashion trends, but lethargic in political affairs where men sit and carve out their future and that of their children -- you epicine disposable piece of biological concoction.

While German women are getting groped in broad day light by Arab migrants, Italy voted a populist government on the promise of turning back African and Arab refugees. France is a getting close to become the new Algeria, and London is nicknamed Londonistan -- all bearing the weight of Arab influence. Islam is thriving in the heart of European cities. And these cities are breeding grounds for ISIS recruits.

Real men are time watchers; like a lion, they patrol the boundaries of their territorial integrity. But sissies like you are found in the bedroom nursing from the financial breasts of your female benefactor.

May the nurse that announced your birth become dumb whenever your birthday comes around.

May your father's inheritance be inherited by a worthy male. For your are an unfit vagabond.

May you become an outcast before your kinsmen and may you become a second class citizen in your wife's home.

Despicable waste of male headcount.

Mindfulness:
An African man seeing Europe in danger of immigrants from Arab countries. Oh the irony!

By the way, the fact that you are shouting alpha and beta up and down here is a clear indication that you are not even omega.

Stop dividing people into two categories. It makes you look like a simple minded fo*ol.

Here she comes..., the quintessence of god-less-ness; the personification of a wayward woman blown asunder by the storm of false knowledge; the crownless Jazebel of our time.

You have been a thoroughly sucked out nectar by hungry ravens who ploughed you dry like a desert cistern.

Tell me, what do you know about the cultural war facing Europe currently?

Hanseel1:
You lack wisdom.

C'mon, you inglorious and despicable bleaching gigolo, your stamina disappoints me. Don't tell me you're gasping for breath already.

Is this how you intend to please the women here for whose acceptance you stomached the fool's bravery of engaging me?



Since you're skilled in laying an ambush for a woman's purse, you should be deft in defending your trade.

Shameless male gold digger.

Hanseel1:
Stop making postmann happy. Stop disgracing womanhood.

You're so insecure!!!

She is the manifestation of the nightmares of a beta male.

Hanseel1:
It's for a friend not me.

You're such a feeble bitchass nigga. I haven't started and you have gone defensive like a nervous virgin afraid of her first fùck!

Who cares? You're a wuzzbag who is vast in bleaching cremes.

Hanseel1:
Your mother would've been happy not knowing you'd be a tyrant willing to put her fellow women in subservience.


Cursed be the day you were born

My father is proud that his proud and illustrious progeny is secure in the strength of my loins; that his mantle is safe in my masculine grip, and my mother is proud of her fighting spirit in me. I'm a star sitting at the centre of her crown -- the priceless gift she gave my father and he so loves her!

But you;

You're the twilight of your father's glory days; the dying embers of his wasted efforts; the finality of his prematurely terminated legacy.

Hanseel1:
Cursed be the day you were born.

What ails you, son?

Is it your depleted male chromosomes that renders you an effeminate, good for thing, cold blooded aromantic dingbat or my intimidating persona?

What else do you share with the women folks outside looking for bleaching cream online to hide your inferiority complex?


You're a biological mistake; a genetically confused wañker who floats around the cyberspace with an empty ball sac.

I'm afraid your membership as a certified male is pending scientific evaluation.

Effeminate, bleaching piece of human junk!

bukatyne:
According to you,

What is submission?
What is love?

You asked the above questions in a gender sensitive platform. You should know that submission in respect to the marriage institute connotes different things according to gender.

Since men and women are different at the core with varying degrees of common shared values and interests and values and interests that are completely alien to the other, I'm afraid your question is rather ambiguous and may prove misleading from the topic of discuss.

bukatyne:
Am sorry however when I read something like this in relation to African/ Nigerian marriages, I hear the wives endured all manner of fuckery and disrespect to keep their ring.

And if it is the above, it didn't make the children better; it made them sociopaths.

Sacrifices rendered for the sustainability of the greatest institute of man -- marriage -- is gender neutral. Men too pay sacrifices for the sustenance of their marriages.

There are countless examples of men who have received their adulterous wives back, who have swallowed betrayals, mental and psychological abuses with a calm face, for example. There is no sacrifice too great for this ancient and noble institute.

While an abusive marriage may pose psychological problems for children, children raised by single mothers have been scientifically proven to suffer major social, mental and psychological setbacks.

Rare exceptions are considered like genuine threat to life, but outside that, divorce has been a cheap getaway for unprincipled individuals to feed their insatiable hunger for pleasure and freedom.

Hanseel1:
You surely won't understand it a bit because you're a feeble minded fellow whose life will expire the day he stops controlling women.

You're a disgrace to civilized men all over the world. Cursed be the day you were born.

You chose the ignoble path of greed over honour and self dignity. That's why you cast a financial burden on your wife.

You called that civilization because you're a mentally compromised piece of human dross.

Cursed be the man who can't provide for his family. You were ordered by your CREATOR to till the ground and work it to put food on the table.

Thou godless cultural vagabond who got seduced like a rural, ill-exposed bitçh.

If you had been a woman biologically, your whoredom would have eclipsed the great prostitutes of Babylon.

Hanseel1:
Like I said earlier.

You should be castrated so that the deadly venom in you won't spread faster to other virtuous and civilized men.

Weak coward who derives pleasure from controlling women.

Be more concerned about your father's legacy that is about to slip through your weak fingers because you chose the inglorious path of cowardice.

Hanseel1:
It's only a matter of time before most African men adopt the "beta male concept".

You're such an ignoramus!


It is only a matter of time before Europe is overrun by Arab immigrants who would turn their cultures and values on it's head and replace it with strict Islamic laws. It's happening already.

They saw an opportunity where their men have become weak and docile. The alpha male will always win.

If Europe couldn't conquer the Arabs culturally who are next door neighbours, I don't see that happening here.

Then if you're still alive, your only value would be to serve as an eunuch because there would be no way you'd be accepted as a bona fide male.

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Hanseel1:
The Rise of the Beta Male
The alpha male, the iconic bad boy, has been making girl’s hearts throb for years. But recently, despite all their chest pounding, attention seeking, in your face behavior, their appeal has been on the decline. .

Who exactly are the beta and alpha males? The alpha male is commonly described as a powerful, aggressive, and dominant man. He exudes confidence and is very physically fit. Alphas display masculine qualities, such as a deep voice, defined bone structure, and muscular physique. They are often pictured as the “ladies’ man.” The beta on the other hand is very introverted, and will avoid confrontation. He is extremely intelligent, thoughtful, capable, and driven. Unlike the alpha male he is smaller in stature and possibly even scrawny. Essentially they are contrasting versions of each other, and society is now favoring the beta version of the male over the alpha.

This preference makes perfect sense from an evolutionary prospective, and is supported by countless studies and centuries of human behavior. Men cannot contribute physiologically to parental investment. Women have to take on the full burden of gestation, child birth, and lactation, so when females look for long term mates they do not necessarily put emphasis on physical appearance, but more so on a man’s economic status or the resources he can provide. Evolutionarily the male’s role is to provide his mate with resources such as shelter and food, because he cannot offer any physical contribution to the development of the child. Women are therefore in a way evolutionarily programmed to desire males who can provide them with these resources. Early on in men’s evolutionary history the physical prowess and domineering behavior of the alpha was important in attaining basic and necessary resources. In today’s society it is financial wealth that is needed to gain these resources, and in this aspect it is the traits of the beta that are more advantageous compared to the alpha. A recent study was conducted analyzing personal advertisements of over 1,100 heterosexual people. The results of the study showed that for every one man who mentioned financial resources as an important criterion for a mate, eleven women did (Putts 190)! Alpha male behavior is on the decline in the business world, it has even been shown to be detrimental to the work place environment. Studies have been done that illustrate “testosterone-choked males” actually struggle to cooperate and act more egocentrically in groups. Bossy, in your face alpha males can hinder the progress of projects and intimidate fellow employees (“Testosterone”). Females will not choose a resource deprived male for long term relationships because they receive almost no benefits from this association. Betas on the other hand are extremely intelligent, capable, and often very successful so they can provide females with the resources they desire.

Alpha males are also often pictured as a “ladies’ man,” someone who can have their way with as many women as they want. In nature the alpha male usually has the sole mating rights to any female he wishes. This behavior has somewhat translated to human alpha male behavior, and can be explained by evolutionary mating choice patterns. Women only put emphasis on physical attractiveness when it comes to one night stands. Women know that the only contribution they could obtain from this man is good genes, and physical attractiveness and masculine qualities are two indicators of good genes (Putts 197). Alpha males can further their own reproductive success by taking advantage of this evolutionary mating behavior of women, and reproducing with as many women as possible. This kind of behavior can be very beneficial to the alpha male, but females will receive no economic benefit. Beta males ,on the other hand, offer females the economic benefits they are looking for and in some cases can also contribute good genes, and are there for a more desirable long term mate.

The image of a desirable mate also began to shift when women started to ardently fight for their rights and equality. women have made tremendous progress in gaining equal rights and opportunities in all aspects of their lives. .

With this movement toward women’s equality females do not want a macho alpha male who acts superior to them; they do not need a man to take care of them any longer. Women comprise 46% of the total U.S. labor force, and women business owners employ 35% more people than all the Fortune 500 companies combined. There are about 9.1 million women-owned businesses in the U.S., a number that encompasses nearly 40% of all businesses (“10 Surprising”). The stereotypical image from the fifties, of a mother in an apron tending to her children and cooking dinner for her husband before he returns home from work is no longer the norm. Women are almost expected to get a job today; it has become the social norm to be a working mother. Women now want an intelligent man who can share in their success and also have success of his own. The beta male is the perfect man for the “new women.” Beta males are successful but are also more reserved and sensitive then alpha males. They are not intimidated by a women’s success. Alpha males on the other hand tend to overcompensate to prove their masculinity. A successful woman could jeopardize their role as the sole provider and diminish their masculinity.

The alpha male’s overcompensating masculine behavior is believed to be due to homophobia. Alpha males displayed such over bearing, loud, dominant, macho behavior because they feel the need to prove there heterosexuality. When homosexuals first started to fervently petition for gay rights, there was little acceptance of their sexuality, and a large amount of disapproval and discrimination. Even in 2001 fifty three percent of the population thought relations were morally wrong. Now fifty three percent of men think it is morally acceptable and fifty one percent of women. If you look at the statistics by generation, the younger generations are even more accepting. Men eighteen to forty nine showed that sixty nine percent think it is morally acceptable and fifty nine percent of women in this age range did as well (Saad). With these present trends, as time goes on homosexuality will only become further accepted. With the acceptance of homosexuality comes the decline in the alpha male behavior. Heterosexual males feel less of a need to prove their sexuality, and do not need to display such exaggerated “straight” behavior. The term metrosexual has also allowed straight males to relax their alpha behavior and display a more beta male behavior. Men can now take care of themselves, dress fashionably, and express a softer more emotional side without being considered a homosexual.

Another social movement that has seriously affected the male hierarchy is campaigns against bullying. Most people do not think of bullying as a problem in the work environment but this has been alpha male territory for years. And as I previously stated, studies have shown that alpha male behavior may actually be counter-productive when pertaining to the business world. Beta males are not interested in dominating others and are more likely to understand the importance of encouragement and motivation over demands and domination. Alpha male behavior does not provide an efficient, healthy work environment. There has also been legislation passed against harassment and discrimination in the workplace to try and prevent this type of behavior. However, the biggest influence on the downfall of the alpha male is the bullying among teens.
Evolutionarily speaking he was always destined to be at the top because of his abilities to provide resources and invest faithfully in his mate, but social practices and behaviors hindered this rise in the male hierarchy. Women have now gained equality among men and no longer need alphas to take care of them. Females are no longer obliged to tolerate the alpha’s oppressive actions, and betas now have their chance to prove themselves as desirable mates. With the growing acceptance of homosexuality, and the establishment of the term metrosexual, men do not have to try and overcompensate to prove their heterosexuality. A male can express a more sensitive introverted personality without being considered gay. The tragedies of the past few years with school shootings, and studies on the effects of bullying have also become a stimulus for the fall of the alpha male. Beta behavior is more appropriate as a role model for impressionable kids and teens. Television shows and movies have taken full advantage of this and have shown the beta is now on top. Females are now drooling over little timid nerds, and boys are looking up to them as their new role models. The beta has successfully risen to the top of the male hierarchy.

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Are you so slow and intellectually wanting that you can't present a coincise version of the meaningless doodles you pasted up there?

Little wonder you have channelled half of your failings to your wife.

Hanseel1:
I don't believe a woman gave birth to you. Your love for “controlling women is worse than what Arab men have done to women".

You need to be castrated before this deadly venom in you spreads fast into other virtuous and civilized men.

You made a fool's mistake in quoting me.

My purpose is to destroy you psychologically and leave a permanent scar in your psyche lest you roam free like a contagious airborne disease and inflict the young and impressionable.

Should men like you dominate our society we would lose our identity and heritage faster than London, Paris and now Berlin would eventually cave in to the Arab surge.

Hanseel1:
You lack wisdom. Your need more exposure or else with this mentality “you're doomed”.


Weak tyrant whose sole purpose on earth is to put women under control.

You're running out of steam too early. You're an enlightened fool who has traded his nobility with the glossy promises of Hollywood.

Now you've become one of the men whose criteria of seeking a wife is primarily based on her financial pocket.

You're a new breed of emasculated, undercover gigolos.

Hanseel1:
Western books and movies? Do western movies depict feminism in anyway?

I never knew you were this intellectually vacant.

Hanseel1:
You just disgraced yourself man. I refuse to call you bro -a tyrant can never be my brother.

Your father's legacy suffered a setback at the day of your birth. The day you were erroneously counted as a HE -- a protector and the continuation of his struggles. Little did he know you would surrender your noble calling to the persuasive whispers of falsehood and empty promises.

Calling me a brother would have cast a dent on my progeny.

Hanseel1:
And what has submission caused in Africa marriages?

Abusing of women, cheating unhinged by men, doing all sorts of bullshît because they know the women don't have the balls to leave-

Feminism gives women voice -

Reasons why divorce is rampant in sane Clines is because the women there don't fall for the antics of tyrants like you.

They leave because men cheat, abuse and rape.
I don't think western women leave marriages because of other reasons except the reasons given above.

Feeble minded and weak tyrants like you want women to stay with cheats and abusive goats.

Submission has spared children the horrors and nightmares of broken homes. And in return they adore their mothers for the priceless sacrifice. They sit deep within our heart as we treasure them beyond compare.

Submission has given them a gift no one can take away from them -- the joy and fulfilment of being a wife, a mother and nurturer. And they've become the pillars of their homes during turbulent times. They stood like a rock and held the family together like a hen would her chicks during a storm.

Not a wanderluster drunk with ungodly freedom and propelled by the dictates of her clitoral urges.

Hanseel1:
Here you go again spewing bullshit about how I won't share pregnancy with my wife.

I don't think American and European men who share bills with their wives also share pregnancy with their wives.

You're a tyrant who feels he'll die the day he stops controlling women -mindset such as yours is one of the reasons feminism is needed in Nigeria.

No sane and intelligent lady would marry a man who thinks he'll lose his manhood if he allows her to make certain decisions for the family.

I call your type an urban monkey, a black rhesus gorrilla who read a couple of western books and seen a couple of movies and have his whole mindset re-caliberated by a culture he barely understands.

And how has the gender equality and feminism panned out over those climes? The complete collapse of the family value, the devaluation of the sanctity of matrimony, rampart divorce, teenage pregnancy and drug abuse.


Your unwillingness/inability to put your feet on the ground like a man and take control of the situations around you have cost you your place amongst your peers.

Hanseel1:
I don't think any sane woman will get married to a man with a tyrannical mindset such as yours.

The earlier you realize this is 2018 not 1900,the better for you.

What is as tyrannical as a man who expects his wife to be an equal financial contributor when he is not an equal burden bearer during her pregnancy and child bearing?

No, you're not the saviour the modern woman longs for. You're the re-emergence of the old slave driver draped in modern apparel and your sole aim is to get your greasy hands in a woman's purse and scream "feminism all the way"

Your dignity in exchange for an easy life is what you're all about. Even some women aren't this cheap.

Hanseel1:
Stop speaking like a tyrant living in the dark ages. You are alive today not because of the number of women you've or still controlling but because you believe in yourself.

Yes, I share bills and will continue to do so. I can't kill myself with burden because of what power drunken males like you would say-even if I'm a billionaire, the bills are shared man.

Things are changing everywhere and people are restructuring their minds but you postmann you still have the mind of an Arab misogynist whose sole purpose in life is to put women under control.


Acidosis must be smiling like a sheep while reading your comments because that's his fantasy.

You're so soft like some fluffy flakes soaked up in a bowl of milk and so have your resolve to hold on and weather the storm of the changing times caved in.

You're one of the conquered, the beta males harnessed from the deceptive bowels of persuasive doctrines. You have become an enlightened fool with a functionless scrotum.

The women find you easy and predictable. To them, you're just another woman with a set of bears and hollow biceps. Add that to your mentality of equal financial responsibility, and it sums you up -- an underbelly, low-motivated and an uninspiring male who cloaks himself with the new fad called feminism to hide away his biological and mental shortfalls.

Hanseel1:
Why do you always foam in the mouth when you see topics like this?

I can't forget the day you insulted me as you if you know me from somewhere because I said I like sharing bills.


Whenever submission and feminism are mentioned, the way Nigerian men speak and behave is enough to justify feminism. You're just so concerned about dictating for another human being.

Aha! Here comes our lazy, single-testicled Nancyboy who is ever so willing to gulp the equality wine because it entails shared financial responsibility.

Funny how my moniker and our brief but impactful encounter found a resting place in your memory. I barely remember you.

You're a long forgotten chapter in the chronicles of my encounters.

Women are known to desire two opposites simultaneously.

The OP excites my curiosity having come to the gender bargaining hall armed with quotes from the scriptures even when it is abundantly clear that GOD requires of the wife to be submissive to the husband in all things like she would CHRIST.

But turning again to demand a slice of the leadership pie isn't just rebellion, it is witchcraft.

Several centuries after the great blunder of their forebear Eve, her daughters are still held captive by that same vice called greed.

Even GOD gives us privilege of choice at times. But that's what it is, a PRIVILEGE. It is within a man's prerogative to decide when his wife's opinion should be adhered or otherwise.

It is not for the woman to step into marriage with a (pre)conceived notion of authority rotation.
To do so is an act of rebellion against divine established principle.

CHoccolaTE:
In what sense are women to submit to husbands?
Thats the sense I am talking about.

You're just a juvenile recalcitrant at worse or an attention seeking female suffering from hormonal mismanagement.

HotMata:
This shouldn't call for talks or raise any sentiment whatsoever because nobody is above the law. If really the police got informations that warranted them to come do that search then why are we here talking all these? The President doesn't have a hand in this, that I know for sure and nobody in his/her right thinking state should try to dent the image of our amiable president by linking his to this that he is using the police to witch hunt top opposition leaders.

With reference to the emboldened, I beg to ask, who are you?

You must be one of his closest aides, or are you not.

sarrki:
Aunty so far you are under federal republic of Nigeria

You must abide either by force or coercion


It is a must

It is by force

Every part of your being has become numb by persistent mental abuse that you have long lost the ability to aspire to a better life.

You have surrendered your hope to a system that is inferior and below the expectations of the enlightened.

You have become a cheap clown to your masters and it pleases your hopeless soul that the keys to your future is secured in the shackles of their imperial clutches.

Fearlez:
waiting for that thread.

Ok, boss. On the way.