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Peacefullove:
A God that was created, does it make sense ?

Where is that written in the bible?. See, it's not good to lie. Jesus is begotten not created. Stop the lie, please!

John 1:1-4 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Anybody who went through school should be able to read and understand the above.

Jesus Christ while on earth, did everything to ensure that He did not glorify the flesh in which He was. And everything He did, He did it in a way that we might follow.

Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit.

Ice, vapour and water are three states of water, yet they are one and the same. So also is God the Father son and Holy Spirit.That they answer different names doesn't mean they are different.

Peacefullove:
There are many controversy surrounding the story of the rich Man and Lazarus which is the go to bible passage many fundamental Christian adhere to when trying to justify the existence of the imaginary hell.

But here is a shocker:


"The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham's side. The rich man also died and was buried ." Luke 16 vs 22

Notice that while it was exclusively stated that the rich man was buried, It wasn't the case for Lazarus , Instead he was carried away by the angels .

The point:

How many Christians today has died and get angels carrying them away?

If the story is therefore a true life story, people won't get buried before angels carry them away.

If such doesn't happen, Why not admit the story wasn't real ?

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Salvation101
Ihateyoumod
Others

There is no point trying to make an issue out of a non issue. The fact that the bible didn't categorically mention that the poor man was buried, doesn't mean he wasn't buried. While you focus on that particular verse to make your case, have you considered other cases?. What about Jesus Christ, the son of God, who came in the form of man to save mankind, wasn't he buried after he died on the cross, have you considered that also?. So if the son of God was buried too, what exactly is your point?. What about other men of faith in the bible?. The father Abraham, to whose bossom, the poor man was carried to by the angels, wasn't he buried?.

Genesis 25:10 The field which Abraham purchased of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife.

1 Samuel 28:3 Now Samuel was dead, and all Israel had lamented him, and buried him in Ramah, even in his own city. And Saul had put away those that had familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land.

1 Kings 2:10 So David slept with his fathers, and was buried in the city of David.

2 Kings 13:20 And Elisha died, and they buried him. And the bands of the Moabites invaded the land at the coming in of the year.

Matthew 27:59 And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen cloth, And laid it in his own new tomb, which he had hewn out in the rock: and he rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed.

Your point is a non issue here.

Stop trying so hard to give yourself an excuse as to why you shouldn't be accountable to God, because that is a waste of time. You have heard the gospel and you can't deny it, there will be no excuse on the final day. The choice however, is yours.

Hell is real and heaven is real. Just like prison is real and freedom is real. You choose where to go.

Jesus Christ is the way, and He still saves.

Ivanlxi:
In a hot Argument whit my guys on who created Satan.. Plz I need answers here.

No one created Satan. Satan means an adversery, an opposer, an enemy. Lucifer was an angel made by God alongside many other angels, but he was particularly beautiful and wise, and like every other angel God created, he had his reasoning and will power. Angels are not robots, they have will and choices, just like man. So made God all of them.

But the angel, Lucifer, out of his beauty and wisdom, became proud, and sort to take for himself, what God hasn't assigned to him, that is to be worshipped by other angels lower in rank than himself and possibly man too. God denied him this and kicked him out along side other angels who supported him, and proclaimed an everlasting judgement upon them, because that was a treasonable offence, trying to compete with your maker. However, till today, the devil/satan/lucifer believes he has the right to be worshipped and has not stopped demanding it from anybody. He even demanded it from Jesus Christ, when He came on earth as a man.

That shows you the crazy and wacky desire of Lucifer. But till today, all the fallen angels led by Lucifer, are ever busy opposing God because He kicked them out of heaven. They have become so hateful of Him and His ways. Besides, they became very jealous of man because, man also sinned, but God chose to give man a second chance which they never had. But before you say why, let me tell you. The devil seeing he has been cast out of heaven, sort to hurt God in any way possible, and the only way was to attack what God loves most and destroy it. That thing is man. And sin destroys man. So he set out to deceive man, and man truly fell. Since man fell by deception, he was given a second chance, coupled with the fact that God loves man so much, He even paid the price of the second chance for man by allowing Jesus Christ to die for us. Man was His very image. So, if man falls again, or refuse to repent of their sins, it means they're acting deliberately, and therefore will go the way of the fallen angels, since they too have made that choice.

So, Satan came about by the choice of an angel and was never created as Satan. Just like no man can birth a child and say, this is an armed robber, but that child grows up and chooses what to become, good or bad and will also suffer whatever consequences that choice will bring.

Jesus Christ came to save. Seize the opportunity of a second chance and be saved. God bless you.

It is more than an ideology — it’s a religion of hopelessness, cynicism, and unhappiness


Recently bestselling atheist author Richard Dawkins sent out a tweet warning those who might be rejoicing at the “death throes” of Christianity in Europe to remember that “something worse” might be taking its place—Islam.

Dawkins was certainly right about the danger of Christianity being replaced by a different religion. But he was wrong about which religion. The fastest growing faith in the West is not Islam but atheism.

Surveys show that atheism is growing at an alarming rate across the globe. In a very short time, countries such as France, the Netherlands, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and Australia will lose their Christian majorities to those who consider themselves atheists or “religiously unaffiliated.” In fact, in the United States the “religiously unaffiliated” makes up almost a quarter of the population.

Of course, atheists deny they are a religious group. They deny that they believe anything on faith, but rather, claim to accept only those theories and principles that can be established scientifically. They assert that they have no beliefs whatsoever regarding God.

But the truth is, atheism is the farthest thing in the world from simple absence of belief. Indeed, atheism is a whole system of beliefs—a system that has its own philosophy (materialism), morality (relativism), politics (social Darwinism), and culture (secularism). It even has its own sacraments (abortion and euthanasia). And this system of beliefs has been responsible for more death, carnage, persecution and misery than any system of beliefs the world has ever known.

Ex-atheist Theodore Beale succinctly summarizes: “There have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm…of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and Mao Zedong… The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists.”

148 million!

So no, atheists can’t be allowed to hold out their hands in mock innocence, calling what they so fervently believe mere “unbelief”—not when those same hands are stained with the blood of so many victims of atheist totalitarian governments.

But there are other things that suggest atheism is a faith, too. G.K. Chesterton once said: “When a man stops believing in God he doesn't then believe in nothing—he believes anything.”And how true that is!

To start with, atheists believe that everything in life has a purely material basis. They believe that all our thoughts, dreams, desires, passions, loves, hates, hopes, philosophies, politics, cultures, art, literature, music, and history—that all of this is purely the result of the movement of molecules in an empty and lifeless ether.

That’s not science—it’s faith. What’s more, it’s an irrational faith that serves as the foundation for all superstition.

Indeed, atheists make a whole slew of assumptions that can’t be proven scientifically. For instance, they believe that this incredibly complex universe of ours—a universe of unparalleled beauty, harmony, and order—came about all by itself, out of nothing. They believe that organization came out of chaos, that life came out of lifelessness, that consciousness came out of non-consciousness, that reason came out of irrationality.

None of these beliefs can be shown empirically. None can be demonstrated or replicated scientifically. None of them even make sense.

In fact, the statistical odds that even the most elemental kind of life could arise as the result of the random mixing of atoms in some sort of primordial “soup” are so astronomical that even scientists have trouble figuring them out. They can’t say that the odds are “trillions to one,” because that figure is much too low.

Yet despite the testimony of many respected scientists and mathematicians, atheists obstinately refuse to accept even the possibility that the universe had a “designer.” They steadfastly maintain the dogma that life on this planet had to come about by chance. Their position contradicts logic, contradicts experience, and even contradicts science, itself. Yet they still believe it.

In the end, atheists actually require more faith than believers, because their faith involves a much more significant suspension of logic and common sense. And it is this “greater” faith which probably accounts for the aggressive behavior of modern atheists.

Faith, after all, is a source of tremendous energy. It explains why atheists are so militant in their rhetoric. It explains their zealous attempts to suppress all forms of public religious expression. The fact is, atheists today aren’t just trying to defend an intellectual position—they’re attempting to spread a “religion” of their own: a religion of hopelessness, cynicism, and unhappiness. And the frightening thing is, they don’t intend to stop until they evangelize the whole world with their “Gospel of Nothingness.”

This Easter Season, Christians need to reflect more deeply on this very real threat—and remember that we are called to fight against it with every fiber of our being.


Anthony DeStefano is the author of Inside the Atheist Mind: Unmasking the Religion of Those Who Say There is No God.

http://m.ncregister.com/blog/guest-blogger/dawkins-is-wrong-the-fastest-growing-religion-is-atheism#.Wu4ZOyko_qD

HappyPagan:
Good. What else would one use?


He is the way to ignorance, reproach and low self-esteem. He reduces people to cowards, kills their will to fight for justice, discourages slaves from fighting their masters, transforms men to zombies clapping, signing, hoping for a Savior to come save them, a corpse hung on a cross two thousand years ago.

A God killed by three nails deserves scorn not worship... a God killed by tools man created. God should believe in Man. He depends on us for his existence. He dies when we stop acknowledging him.

The fact that you know that someone died for you, even though you deny it, makes you inexcusable. You have chosen not to believe, but that cannot harm the truth in anyway. God gave humanity His son, to save mankind. That an expensive gift!. No one spends for what he hates, rather, we spend for what we love or value. So, for the fact that God loves and values you and me, made Him to send us His son.

John 3:16 -17 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

God is very much concerned about your salvation not to condemn you, but If you reject His salvation, that means you have chosen death. The choice is yours.

Whether you mock God or honour Him is your decision. I hope you know that someday you will die and leave this world, what happens after then is between you and God. But you can make peace with Him now before it becomes too late.

Jesus Christ is the way.

The gods of the ancient ages were on rampage because men lost their right when Adam and eve sinned against God . With the coming of Jesus Christ, their (false gods) powers were obliterated, and power was given to the believers in Christ.

At the mention of the name of Jesus Christ, every knee shall bow. The false gods, which are nothing but fallen angels marauding about decieving and threatening men, capitalized on the ignorance of people. But with the spread of the gospel, and the knowledge of the power in the name of Jesus, these demons, com gods, had to quit. They can no longer freely operate, else, they'll be roasted.

Let any false god show up, and let a Christian, who knows his/her right in Christ Jesus appear, and say the name of Jesus Christ or plead the blood of Jesus Christ, and see how they'll flee. The absence of this knowledge and right, gave the so called gods, the freedom to misbehave.

Anybody, who claims that this is because they have advanced in knowledge by themselves, is simply not telling the truth. Come on, how do you think, that you can over power the force that created you?, Or outsmart the source of your wisdom. People are actually thinking they are wise, but all the while are increasingly becoming unreasonable.

The fierce wrath of God against the wicked and against His enemies, will soon begin to manifest with full force.

Expect climatic shake up, revolting oceans, rumbling earth, and the rage of Satan, why?, because man in his warped wisdom, has rejected his source, which is God. Like a fish taken out of the water, death will result.

Let no man fool you, Jesus is the Lord. The end is near, can you not see it, as predict by God's word?,. Repent and seek the Lord now.

HappyPagan:
Fear is all they know. Do not fall away, do not depart the brethren. Fear. Fear. and more Fear. Hell Fire is the peak.


Fear. I will attract something evil by my utterances. But evil things do happen to good people. Jesus was beaten, crucified and spat on.. His disciples were boiled, some were skinned alive too..


It's the wise man who asks questions, of all he reads and sees. It's the wise man who knows his knowledge has limits, and acknowledges his ignorance.

A foolish man calls his ignorance God.


Salvation from what exactly? A pagan is a pagan to whom a pagan is. Belief has you captive. You believe because it makes you feel special.. That' a good feeling, although a false one.



I love you too. That's why I write.

That you may have sense.

A sense that sees and uses everything made by individuals and yet believes to be made by nothing, but a chance, a mistake, a mere occurrence, It's that one sense?.

Jesus Christ is the way.

HappyPagan:
Our people are so brainwashed by Christ, the only reason they love Trump is because he hates Muslims and homos... just like they do. As the Bible says they should.

The minds are caged by the ancient writings of Hebrew men wandering an Asian jungle. Take the Bible from them, and they have no other way to interpret the world around them.

The Old Testament/New Testament is their only interpretation of the world... Ancient is old Testament, modern is new testament, God is as the Israelites said.

This is written for those who wish to renounce Jesus, those who need no Hebrew Savior, those who realize there is nothing to be saved from. Only Fear.

Fear is the foundation on which the Bible is built. For God so loved the world, that he gave his Son? Really? Wouldn't forgiveness have been a better option from a 'loving' God?

To think such thoughts was once considered sacrilege, and men were killed for the mere suggestion that Jesus wasn't born of a Virgin. Those times have long gone, but the writings of Moses continue to chain, cage, and limit the potentials of a generation of Africans.

Feet in Africa, minds in Jerusalem. Their home and past is worth nothing compared to Christ. They were so properly colonized, they could only see the world through the eyes of their colonizes. His language, his thoughts, his religion.. The only African trait they have is genetic. The mind is fully immersed in the blood of a dead Jew.

The road to salvation is a lonely one, a solo one. Logic and reason will be your guides, personal bias is your only limit.

You will die, a good death, not physical but mentally. And from death will rise a new mind, a pure mind, a mind that fits the skin that wears it. Christ mind is slave mind, Christ mind is meek mind, Christ mind is weak mind, Christ mind is not African.

Carrying a cross is a burden, a physical and mental one. There is no reward for carrying crosses... for there is no heaven, no mansions, no streets of gold above.


The Earth belongs to us all. Heaven is under our feet, where the gold, diamonds, and oil lies. No Jew died in Israel for an African man's sins. If he did, who will die for the European's sins in Africa? Who will forgive the white man for his crimes?

Christians must watch and pray not to fall away in this last days, because everything the Lord Jesus Christ warned us that will happen including many rising and deceiving many, they are all here with us. Satanist are now pastors, ritualist are now miracle workers. All of them telling mind boggling sugar coated stories, performing magic coming miracles.

My only concern is that my fellow human, being, made in the image of God, will openly, without fear, without thought, insult God and ridicule His words. Aaaaah!

I can't imagine God telling someone, depart from me you wicked sinner into the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Men, that's final!, no coming out for all eternity!. The center of the Sun is 15 million degrees Celsius, yet, it is nothing compared to hell fire!. Man cannot survive beyond 70 degree Celsius, yet he insults God and speak evil of what he is not sure of, how wise is that?

To you Mr. Pagan, today is the day of salvation, you still have time while you're alive. Please, save your self by receiving Jesus Christ today. I can tell you right now, that you are not better being a pagan nor are you better of than Christians, you still struggle to find peace, but all the while you feign it. It's in Jesus alone. God is real, Jesus Christ is real and He saves. Seek Him sincerely and you will find Him. Why should you perish when Jesus has paid the price for you?. Please be saved. Love you.

sKeetz:
You've not answered the question but I didn't expect you to cause obviously, there are no answers to the questions.

I asked you not to use the bible as a point of reference but you just couldn't help it. The bible is a great work of literature no doubt but that's just it. It has its own share of myths, contradictions and exaggerations.

It's very ridiculous that you think a Jewish carpenter died for you: a black man from Africa and you believe its true because a book which was written aeons ago said so. Your whole believe is centered on this book and nothing more.

why do you believe so much in this book written by illiterate middle eastern nomads despite the numerous contradictions and evil exploits by Yahweh? What makes the bible stand out?

God forbid! Only the devil will ask a Christian to leave his Bible, the Word of God, to say what exactly?. My dear, don't buy that lie of the devil. This is the same problem Jesus had with the pharesses, they where asking Him for signs and evidence, but He (Jesus) constantly referred them to the word of God. Because, they didn't get it the way they wanted, they didn't believe in Him. But who lost out, of cause the pharesses!, because, Jesus fulfilled His mission. While you like the pharesses are looking for signs, many persons are being saved. What excuse do you have then? Because everything is in the bible.

You and I need help, and someone comes to help you, rather than take the help seeing you're lost and helpless, you rather chose to ask for the helper's, bank account, his tribe and ancestries and occupation, do you expect to be taken seriously?. The diligent will get all the proofs in the word of God. Anything else is suspect. I don't think you know the magnitude of deception you are exposed to by depending on signs as a condition to believe in Jesus Christ. Because, mark it, you will get signs aplenty until you become confused. My prayer for you is that God will by His grace open your eyes and draw you to Himself personally. Don't assume to be too wise by arguments.

Romans 1:22
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1 Corinthians 3:18
Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.

1 Corinthians 3:19
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.

Anything outside of the Word of God, cannot be authentic.

From the beginning, the devil has always tried to alienate humanity from God's word, success in this will make it easier for him to deceive. Therefore, I will not ascede to that request sir.

Jesus Christ is the way still.

sKeetz:
the problem is that the bible is not enough proof for the existence of an afterlife in both heaven and hell. Every religion has a book which it claims to contain spiritual truth but there are no tested and trusted way to know which of this books is actually the truth.

So your job of evangelism is incomplete if you cant convince unbelievers like me about the existence of hell and heaven without mentioning the bible. We need empirical evidence. This shouldnt be rocket science for an omnipotent god.

If you depend on signs to deside which is which, then I can tell you that, you will likely miss it. We have an enemy who is hell bent on making sure we (humanity) perish. This malevolent fellow, is smart, intelligent and cunning. He has been around even before the creation of man, and as such knows more than man. I will never try to argue with him without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. I may not be able to win him with mere human wisdom. His strength is in reasoning and arguments. But my strength is in faith. He seeks to fight on the turf of reasoning, outside faith, but I will maintain my position on my turf, faith.

We have so many religion today because of this bad fellow. He has been convincing many with all manner of proofs and lieing evidences. But the bible tells us, that the only way to decipher this bad guy and his colleagues, is by their fruits. So, again he begins to infiltrate Christianity as well, so that people will have no firm grip of it. Why do we have so many varing and divergent creed and groups?, it's deception!.

The devil has placed so much land mines on humanity's way in order to make it difficult for it (humanity) to identify the truth.

The one evidence I have for you is that, the founder of all other religions are dead and buried, but Jesus Christ died, and rose again just as He said, and He still lives, and He will still come back just as He promised.

Though Islam denies His death, but Islam affirms His coming back. If that be the case, the question will be, who is this person who continues to live after thousands of years ago, that will still come back again to save. Again, Koran directs it's adherants, to search for the answers in the Bible, that gives you a clue as well. The whole thing then, is like an objective type question, in which you will be given multiple choice to choose from of which only one is correct. By their fruit, you shall know them.

Of all the other religion, which did you hear or read that the founder gave his/her life for the adherants?. That's another clue. The bible is God's word. If you don't accept it, then is nobody's fault, but yours. Your salvation is to your own profit.

Jesus Christ is the way.

0temSapien:
If you are no more on earth, you are automatically an alien to the earth. Check the dictionary for the intrinsic or literal meaning of alien. For example, Yahweh is an alien because he is no more living on earth. Your ancestors and my ancestors are aliens because they are no more living on earth.

What? So all the Nigerians living abroad are aliens to Nigeria, since they are outside Nigeria. Hahaha..., Mr. President too, is an alien to Nigeria, since he traveled outside Nigeria. What about ambassadors of nations living outside their countries of origin, they are aliens too, even though they live in embassies and are representing their countries. How can you call the landlord of a property an alien simply because he isn't inside at the moment?. What kind of reasoning is that?.

Psalms 24:1
The earth is the LORD's, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

The Lord God is no alien to His own creation. That's the lie the devil is trying so hard to sell, so that humanity will grant him and his colleagues free access. Coming in the name of a benevolent ETs, aka UFOs, aka aliens. They will fail!.

Mr. Otem, there's no intrinsic nor extrinsic explanation that will justify these fallen angels trying so hard to take over the earth, for their own wicked and devilish purposes. But why will you be aiding them? Are you a human being? These guys are liars!. Don't buy it. You haven't seen their real character yet.

Jesus Christ is the way.

sKeetz:
So how come you talk about this mysterious places like you've been there ?

Please disappoint me by giving me an intelligent response.

The Bible is enough evidence. The one doing the saving has given us what He wants, do you give Him conditions?. Are our lives on earth itself not enough evidence to show you we need help?.

Should I begin to sleep around because I haven't had STDs and infection?, and begin to doubt it?. Why I haven't seen hell or heaven personaly, I have seen persons, not one or two, from around the world who have detailed their personal experiences. These persons by the way are not connected physically or relatated, yet their accounts are strikingly similar, and in agreement with what the bible says. By the way, seeing heaven or hell is not the issue, the issue is believing God's word. Man says seeing is believing, God says blessed are they who haven't seen, yet believe. If anybody have issues with that, let them deal with it. With God, it's either faith, or nothing.

John 20:29
Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

If you want to understand spiritual things, you will have to first have an understanding of physical things, because the physical world we are in, is a mere shadow of what is out there in the spiritual realm. Everything here is structured following spiritual order.

If a man commits a crime here, we are certainly sure he will do the time. If the time is forever, what becomes of that man, assuming he will never die, which is the case in the spiritual realm?. Such a person is doomed!. With that in mind, you now have a saviour who is offering to do the time for you, will you begin to ask Him conditions, signs, and evidences, when He has truly committed Himself? Wouldn't you grab such opportunity with both hands, knowing it's not perpetually open?. I guess the question we need to ask and answer is, do we know and agree that we have sinned and trespassed God's laws?., do you know such trespass attract punishment?. A sincere fellow will own up.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

The next question is, can you do the time, serve the punishment?. We certainly can't, because it's eternal death. However, the one who says no, and posit to have done no wrong, will have no reason to accept salvation, but that's a complete lie. We all have done wrong and we all need a saviour in this case.

The opinion of anybody, doesn't matter. Even though you're entitled to it.

Jesus saves.

sKeetz:
Have you been to hell? Or heaven?

No, I haven't.

0temSapien:
But Yahweh himself knows his creator and he can never deny that fact. Read the book of true history, the DOCTUFOS OF TRUTH and you will see how Yahweh was created by God Almighty. He was even reincarnated and the Doctufos recorded all the reincarnations of Yahweh. Don't be stereotyped. Go and read the truth and be free from lies. Peace

Why should I read the doctrine of Unidentified Flying Objects?. Tell me why?. Why should I believe the stories of aliens. Their very description is enough to ring the alarm bells. I ask you Mr. Otem, who is an alien?

God almighty is Yahweh and Jehovah and He is Lord over all.

When the Lord Jesus Christ comes, Mr. Otem and all his god's will surely bow down to Him and worship him. Fallen angels don't have a choice here, they must do it. Hahaha... The devil is a liar!

sKeetz:
Once they start loosing an argument, the next thing is to employ scare tactics; threatening unbelievers with hell and eternal suffering. Smh.

It's not a threat, it's a reality. If you see someone ignorantly heading to hell, would it be wrong to warn the person?.

You guys want a world without moral check, so you come up with every excuse and explanation to exempt yourselves, and make you feel OK. But your acceptance or rejection of it, won't change a thing.

Is what I have done different from what the government and NGOs are doing? If you see a smoker or a drunk or someone who sleeps around, and you warn them of the dangers of their act, what will be their natural response?, they will mostly dismiss it as well. But will they blame anybody when the consequences of STDs, lung problems and others arrive?, No!. But why will they refuse to accept the warning?, nothing else but pride and willful stubbornness. They think they are having fun and enjoying themselves, and so wouldn't like anybody telling them otherwise.

Take it or leave it, the reality can not be changed. Call it fear mongering, call it threat or whatever you want. You cannot blame anybody. You have your choice to make, I have mine. Mine is to inform and warn, yours is to accept or reject. If you get saved, who are you doing favour, me or God or yourself?.

Salvation is free but not compulsory, yet, rejecting it means eternal death. That's the message.

Jesus Christ is willing to save anybody.

djoguns:
THE GRAVE ROBBERY...
In advance of his death, Jesus Christ told his disciples that he would be betrayed, arrested, and crucified and that he would come back to life three days later. That's a strange plan! What was behind it? Jesus was no entertainer willing to perform for others on demand; instead, he promised that his death and resurrection would prove to people ( if their minds were open) that he was indeed the Messiah.

When he said that he himself would rise again from the dead, the third day after he was crucified, He said something that only a fool would dare say, if he expected longer the devotion of any disciples, unless he was sure he was going to rise from the dead. No founder of any world religion known to mankind ever dared say a thing like this; in other words, since Jesus had clearly told his disciples that he would rise again after his death, failure to keep that promise would expose him as a fraud.

Historian Paul Johnson, in history of the Jews wrote, " what mattered was not the circumstances of his death but the fact that he was widely and obstinately believed by an expanding circle of people, to have risen again." The tomb was indeed empty, but it wasn't the mere absence of a body that could have galvanized Jesus' followers (especially if they had been the ones that had stolen it) . Something extraordinary must have happened, for the followers of Jesus ceased mourning, ceased hiding, and began fearlessly proclaiming that they had seen Jesus alive.

Each eye witness accounts reports that Jesus suddenly appeared bodily to his followers, the women first. Morrison wondered why conspirators would make women central to its plot. In the first century, the women had virtually no rights, personhood , or status. If the plot was to succeed, Morrison reasoned, the conspirators would have portrayed men, not women, as the first to see Jesus alive. And yet we hear that women touched him, spoke with him, and were the first to find the empty tomb.

Legal Scholar John Warwick Montgomery stated, " In 56 A. D. Apostle Paul wrote that over 500 people had seen the risen Jesus and that most of them were still alive, I cor 15:6..It passes the bounds of credibility that the early Christians could have manufactured such a tale and then preached it among those who might easily have refuted it simply by producing the body of Jesus." Bible scholars Geisler and Turek agree. " If the resurrection had not occurred, why would the Apostle Paul give such a list of supposed eyewitnesses? He would immediately lose all credibility with his Corinthian readers by telling a lie so blatantly. British scholar Michael Green remarked, " The appearances of Jesus are as well authenticated as anything in antiquity ...there can be no rational doubt that they occurred."

No human being has adequately explained why the disciples would have been willing to die for a known lie. But even if they all conspired to lie about Jesus' resurrection, how could they have kept the conspiracy going for decades without at least one of them selling out for money or position? Moreland wrote, " Those who lie for personal gain do not stick together very long, especially when hardship decreases."

Very well put. The deceiver, the devil, will do everything possible to discredit the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, because that put the death nail on him.

But nothing can be done against the truth. Only those who choose to not believe, will be deceived. But I pray that, the same grace that found me, and saved me, will find and save others too, and bring them to the truth in Christ Jesus.

OtemAtum:
It's very conspicuous that Yahweh was the most foolish of the gods. He used his supposedly only begotten son for ritual purposes. Where do they do that kind of a thing? Olorun, Chukwu, Abassi, Oghene and Osanobua the gods of our land will never behave in such foolish manner.

The devil is always a liar!

Wait a minute! You have just attested to the fact that God actually gave His only begotten son to die. Which the bible says. So, the bible is correct!

Again, God did not use His power to kill you, to pay for your sins, rather, He made a substitute with His son, because, His son has power over death which we don't have, hence, He's alive again haven risen from the death, and our debt paid in full.

All your so called gods who are nothing but fallen angels waiting for their eternal judgement, cannot do that. Are they sinless? No! So, where will they get the sinless blood from. If they could get it, wouldn't they have paid for their sins with long ago? Oh!, but they are eternally lost. Don't join them. No one should join them.

Chukwu is God in Igbo language, Olorun is God in Yoruba, Abassi is the same God in Effik. Why have you allowed yourself to be confused and decieved?.

The word 'good' or 'light' has many names according to the varing sets of languages around the world, so also is the name by which people call God. Yahweh is God, the almighty. Please, stop the deception.

Let the people of God be careful, only the devil can bring about such confusion and yet make it look so real. If he attempted it with Jesus, he will surely, most certainly attempt it on us.

Jesus Christ remains the way, the truth and the life.

Kendzyma:
So i was outside observing d greatness of nature,and at the same time engulfed with the thought of life in general,then i suddenly realized something...our feet texture and thickness is the same with our palm's texture and thickness...(Note: i know we all know this,but its actually d first time i gave it a critical thought)

Animals also have this feature,which is as a result of the fact that they use both their legs and hands to walk inwhich the palm and feet evolved to be thicker than the other skin part in the body..

But we human also have this same unique feature just that we only use our legs to walk,so i was like..why do we need our palms thickend in the first place since we dnt use it constantly on a hard surface?..how does our palm skin evolved to be that thick..?

The only answer i could come up with was that,maybe we actually once used our palms to walk,which explains the thickness and due to our intelligence,we evolved to using just the feet to walk..this is just my own thought,i will like to know what you guys thinks about it.

All we see around us today is a product of divine creation, made by the one and all knowing God. Evolution us the doctrine of Satan which seeks to deny God hand role in the work He has made.

The denial doesn't change a thing from God, but accepting such is to the detriment of man.

God internationally designed and created everything.

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

I ask, since the last so called evolution took place, why haven't we seen another or even a sign of it? Why do we need to build aeroplanes when we could have just evolved wings and fly?. May God save us from satanically inspired lies.

Jesus Christ is the way.

HappyPagan:
Our people are so brainwashed by Christ, the only reason they love Trump is because he hates Muslims and homos... just like they do. As the Bible says they should.

The minds are caged by the ancient writings of Hebrew men wandering an Asian jungle. Take the Bible from them, and they have no other way to interpret the world around them.

The Old Testament/New Testament is their only interpretation of the world... Ancient is old Testament, modern is new testament, God is as the Israelites said.

This is written for those who wish to renounce Jesus, those who need no Hebrew Savior, those who realize there is nothing to be saved from. Only Fear.

Fear is the foundation on which the Bible is built. For God so loved the world, that he gave his Son? Really? Wouldn't forgiveness have been a better option from a 'loving' God?

To think such thoughts was once considered sacrilege, and men were killed for the mere suggestion that Jesus wasn't born of a Virgin. Those times have long gone, but the writings of Moses continue to chain, cage, and limit the potentials of a generation of Africans.

Feet in Africa, minds in Jerusalem. Their home and past is worth nothing compared to Christ. They were so properly colonized, they could only see the world through the eyes of their colonizes. His language, his thoughts, his religion.. The only African trait they have is genetic. The mind is fully immersed in the blood of a dead Jew.

The road to salvation is a lonely one, a solo one. Logic and reason will be your guides, personal bias is your only limit.

You will die, a good death, not physical but mentally. And from death will rise a new mind, a pure mind, a mind that fits the skin that wears it. Christ mind is slave mind, Christ mind is meek mind, Christ mind is weak mind, Christ mind is not African.

Carrying a cross is a burden, a physical and mental one. There is no reward for carrying crosses... for there is no heaven, no mansions, no streets of gold above.


The Earth belongs to us all. Heaven is under our feet, where the gold, diamonds, and oil lies. No Jew died in Israel for an African man's sins. If he did, who will die for the European's sins in Africa? Who will forgive the white man for his crimes?

Christians must watch and pray not to fall away in this last days, because everything the Lord Jesus Christ warned us that will happen including many rising and deceiving many, they are all here with us. Satanist are now pastors, ritualist are now miracle workers. All of them telling mind boggling sugar coated stories, performing magic coming miracles.

My only concern is that my fellow human, being, made in the image of God, will openly, without fear, without thought, insult God and ridicule His words. Aaaaah!

I can't imagine God telling someone, depart from me you wicked sinner into the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Men, that's final!, no coming out for all eternity!. The center of the Sun is 15 million degrees Celsius, yet, it is nothing compared to hell fire!. Man cannot survive beyond 70 degree Celsius, yet he insults God and speak evil of what he is not sure of, how wise is that?

To you Mr. Pagan, today is the day of salvation, you still have time while you're alive. Please, save your self by receiving Jesus Christ today. I can tell you right now, that you are not better being a pagan nor are you better of than Christians, you still struggle to find peace, but all the while you feign it. It's in Jesus alone. God is real, Jesus Christ is real and He saves. Seek Him sincerely and you will find Him. Why should you perish when Jesus has paid the price for you?. Please be saved. Love you.

0temSapien:
God ALMIGHTY created Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Moloch, Odin and all other gods human beings are worshipping. The way forward is not to continue worshipping these gods. It is not to even advisable to spemd time to worship God Almighty(the greatest consciousness) which created them all. Rather, the golden rule given to God Almighty to its first beings are:
1. Use your brains positively
2. Worship no god or me.
3. Do good to your fellows.

Primesky is aware of this, but he just want to keep breaking the golden rule 2, which says, WORSHIP NO god(e.g Yahweh) or God(Existence).

Every house has just one head. God is the head of the Universe. God doesn't share His sovereign power with anybody. The devil is the one who has always sort to undermine His rule, but that's an absolute impossibility. It's however a pity that you have allowed yourself to be used in this grand deception of the devill. Stop this confusion Mr. Otem.

Let me ask you, will you share your position as a father with strangers in the same house, all of them laying claim to your son? How is that even possible?

You talk so much about nature and yet fail to learn the vital lessons in it which God has made.

A nation has one leader and he has subjects.
A community has leader as well as subjects.

But when it comes to God, you say there are many gods in charge. Does that make any sense?

God almighty is Yahweh. The maker, sovereign ruler and owner of the entire universe.

Satan is the devil, the thief, the liar and deceiver. He is a fallen angel, whose place shall be the lake of fire.

They are not the same.

Jesus Christ is Lord over all. Amen!

mmsen:
There are no 'facts' or 'evidence' when it comes to this religious nonsense hence why there are so many deities, so many religions and an infinite number of 'laws' supposedly given to us by the gods.

Hmm.... be humble enough to search out the truth, not with human pride. Do you really hope to see something worthy in what you call nonsense?. While you are complaining of not seeing evidence, others are saying they've found it. Does that say something about your approach?

Let's say It's an exam, the text material is one and the same. The answers are all in the book. But only the diligent and humble in this case will find it out.

If a student fails a test, will he/she excuse him/her self out for not seeing the answers in the testbook?. The question will be, what about those who passed the test?.

Man has no excuse before God. Any man who sincerely and diligently search for God will find Him, God will reveal Himself to such.

Born2Freak:
Christianity is a religion

As you want to believe. That doesn't change the reality neither will it do any harm to the truth.

mmsen:
You're right. Which is why being a xtian or Muslim is absurd.

Your choice is yours. So also is the consequences of your own choices. Twisting it won't excuse you either. This argument is simply evident of the fact that you have at one point or the other heard about God and His laws. The choice to obey or not is yours. The outcome is yours as well. No one will share it with you.

If you believe in God today, that won't make Him what He's not already, neither will your not believing in Him remove a thing from Him. Everything He's doing is for your own good. If you say no, do you suppose He will force you or dance to your own tune? Never!

Now is the time of grace, and God has deliberately delayed His judgement so no one will give excuse when shows up, so you can say, do whatever you like but when the day of judgement comes you will know who God really is. Nobody plays with fire!. I pray you get saved, the wrath of God is not what anybody can wish even to his worst enemy.

Jesus saves.

Babatunde360:
With this ur logic who created ur creator

Hahaha... That's what makes him God! The uncreated creator.

He is the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Besides Him, there is non else. If another exists, let him come out let me test him with the name of Jesus Christ. Hahaha... What drama that will be.

Seriously, I'm still waiting to see anybody that will come out for a contest like it was in the time of Elijah.

But one day everybody will see it. The head and beginning of all things is God. That knowledge is bigger than the human brain. Please tread carefully.

There are trillions of stars and galaxies created by this person. Just one planet called earth, in which you and I live, has oceans teaming with life. After many years of exploring and discovering, man hasn't been able to explore more than 20% of it. Yet someone will try to understand and explain everything about God. What He has graciously provided (Bible) should suffice for now as you progressively learn more about him. No one angel knows everything about God, they too, are constantly wowed by Him and His creation daily.

Your existence on earth is nothing but a dress rehearsal. The real thing begins when you move over into eternity. Time and physicality is a mere shadow compared to what is out there.

God is simply awesome and incomprehensible. Reverentially fear and honour Him. Don't land on the wrong side of such a person. He doesn't need to make a noise to prove anything to you. Your believe in Him will not mAke Him more God or add anything to Him,
neither will your not believe in Him take a hair from Him. Everything He's doing is for your own good. He owes no man no proof, His works are enough, you may deny it now out of fleshly pride and arrogance, but when you meet Him face to face, you will voluntarily spew the truth like a broken faucet. Fear God!.

Born2Freak:
Christianity has not helped this country. We even have a vice president who is a pastor. Still people suffer.

Religion is not the way forward

Very true, religion is not the way forward. God has not called us to be religious but to be holy accept His son Jesus Christ and have a dynamic relationship with him.

I don't know about others, but I enjoy this relationship.

What is happening in Nigeria now is what happens, when people turn away from God to do as they like or as the devil likes. Today, we have men who cheat, lie, steal and kill in the name of God.

When we do these things, no matter the guise, God's hands of protection is removed, because He will not stay where sin abides. Besides, by doing such things, we are simply telling Him to back off from our lives, then the devil comes in to activate his mission, which is, to kill, steal and destroy by any and every means possible.

And if we refuse to repent and return to God, things will get even worse as God's hands of protection is taken away. People have no idea what the devil is preparing for mankind. We are here today only because of God's grace.


2 Thessalonians 5:7-12

For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

When God says, seek me, come to me, obey me, I am your maker and father, and we say no, we will not, leave us alone to do what we like. He will back off!, and what follows is lies and deceptions and the consequences of such. God will back off because He doesn't force you to choose, every man will make his/her choice but you will account for that choice.

I say it again, it will only get worse if we don't return to God, because only Him can save us from the catastrophe to come. The devil does not mean well for mankind. Understand that!.

Religion is just a camouflage, an excuse. True Christianity is not a religion, but a dynamic fellowship and relationship with God howbeit on God's on terms, that's all!

Jesus is the way to life. Repent and accept Him today.

superhumanist:
Nonsense. How is atheism wrong?

It is like you are living in denial of useless Christianity is in Nigeria.

See how wise you are. The phone or whatever devise you are using, was made by somebody. The clothes, shoes and everything you're putting on, was made by somebody. The house, cars, aeroplane and all gargets and devices were made and are still being made by somebody.

But you will come out to say there is no God. You are not made or created. You believe you are an accidental creation, a chance from a Big Bang!. Come on, what kind of reasoning is that?

Open your eyes, come back to your maker, because you are an intentional creation.

Jesus is the way.

Born2Freak:
1. In this era of Buhari and suffering, you are free from any duty to tithe. You will save 10% of your salary for yourself

2. Since there is no need to go to church as an atheist, no pastor will force you to;
*remove panties
*eat grass
*inhale insecticides

3. No need to travel to Mecca for pilgrimage (or Jerusalem) since government no longer pays for it.

4. All those hours wasted praying for Nigeria to be better will now be used for something better

5. No more money spent on transport fare to church. Imagine going from lagos to otta or lagos to ibadan expressway and spending 3 hrs on the road

6. You won't miss your favourite sunday shows because of church eg premier league matches, telemundo full series etc

7. You will now be able to laugh whenever Lalasticlala pushes a thread about crazy pastors and ridiculous things in religion to the frontpage

8. You can now feel free blocking all those boring religious channels on DSTV

9. No more running on from office to mosque on Fridays for prayers

10. No more hunger games aka Fasting


I hope you guys will see the light and become atheists. Ramen!

There's no 'good' time to do what is wrong. The man who fails to discipline him/herself to do what is uncomfortable now, will have to settle with the pain of regrets and anguish later.

Let's use our God given wisdom to think about good things not how to avoid God's word. God cannot be mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

paxonel:
seriously,for a very long time it's as if the devil do not exist,Whether he is somewhere laughing it's not my business. Just try and look away from the devil for just one year you will see the difference,He doesn't exist, And you will be free from pastors too.
there is no devil to fight.
No spirit threat anywhere or any agenda. Have your own agenda and work towards it without distraction you will see success i swear. Even if you fail, just keep trying it's just a matter of time.
that is very true! No spiritual force can bring fortune to anyone. Not even force of prayer, infact there is no force in praying.
I keep telling people, the only force to prayer is work. it does not mean i do not believe in God, infact taking control of your situation and not blaming them on witches is the best way to believe in God.
you see what I'm talking about?
Someone will be lazy and when failures and challenges comes he will start blaming it on witches. That's the kind of people pastors want in churches.
atleast Jesus did not see any trouble when he refuses to bow down, rather he was comforted by angels.
So where is the trouble coming from?
I think it is coming from your beliefs and you alone can emancipate yourself by changing that belief.
resistance are everywhere, mostly created by human factors and nothing spiritual. But persistence and patience over time breaks through every resistance except the individual does not know what he is doing.
the only satanic money that exist is when people make money illegitimately either by defrauding other people or people going to hard drugs pushing. There is nothing like Satan money, or blood money or ritual money.
it is not satanic resistance or because they chooses to work hard playing the game by the rules. it is either there is something they are yet to know about their carrier that is causing the set back of which the day they begin to know about that area of their carrier, from that day they will begin to see success.
like the one you see in science fictions and movies? They are all fictions and nothing more. These white men knows they are not real but Africans choose to believe that they are real at their own peril.

Is a pity! The devil has got you where he really wants you to be. You believing he doesn't exist. So the blame of all the evils in the world will definitely go to someone else. At this level, only God can save you because you've swallowed a very deadly poison, but as long as you're still alive, you're redeemable.

Note, just as medicine have no effect on a sick person after death no matter how potent it is, that is how the blood of Jesus will be useless to cleanse you after death. You need to seek Jesus now, what you're doing is gambling with fire. See, my friend, eternity has no end. Believe me, you don't want to carelessly go there and spend it in indescribable flames.

The devil is very tricky, he is not stupid, but he's a liar and a deceiver. The guy who deceived angels who are wiser than you, you don't stand a chance against him. Come to Jesus Christ now. What you're doing and saying and believing now may look harmless to you, it may appear to you as being free but when you cross over into eternity which is just a second away from time, you'll know it's not a joke. I will be a wicked person not to tell you. I'm not preaching church. Please, don't wait to see it before you believe.

At most you'll be here on earth for 120 years, the devil has no problem with that as long as you'll end up in hell, after that you spend eternity either in heaven or in hell. The choice is yours. Eternity is not 1billion years, neither is it 100 trillion years, rather, it's an endless existence., living where, fire?!. Don't think Jesus came to die for fun. You have no idea what hell is like.

Come to Jesus Christ now. Save your soul.
Jesus loves you.

Camouflage!.

Hypocrisy in the highest order.

End the killing already!

paxonel:
Op, you are very much on point.

There is nothing like witchcraft
There is nothing like money rituals
There is nothing like juju

All these things exist in the minds of people.

We are all architects of our failures and success.

If God will not perform any miracle no amount of prayer can force him to do so.

I can't imagine how the devil will be laughing at you and the likes of you for this your believe.

Of cause the devil won't fight you so much, because obviously you pose no threat to him and his agenda. Not believing such evil exist is also tantamount to believing forces of good don't exist as well. So, I won't be surprised if you don't believe in God.

However, I will say that believing in God is not a licence to laziness, no! the bible doesn't encourage that. So, it will be preposterous to attribute such attitude to the believe in Jesus Christ.

The bible teaches that, faith without works is dead. The same bible says he that will not work should not eat. Jesus said, I work because my father works. Where do you people deduce that Christianity encourages laziness?

Like I said before, the devil is not stupid. He will not border himself attacking an individual or a nation that has been successfully decieved by him and therefore stand condemned already except they repent. He won't border attacking a people who don't believe in God, or believe in his existence, he has this set of people under his armpit already. So, focus will be mounted on those who are in the know of his antics and deceptions.

What did he tell Jesus during the temptation, he said "... If you bow down and worship me, I will give you all the riches of the world... " that is the same thing he's telling young and old today, and if you don't bow to him, trouble. So a very talented person working very hard, but refuse to bow, will face more resistance than he/she that has given all away to worship Satan in exchange for money, fame and power. Can you compare the both? If one tells you they are having a satanic resistance should that then surprise you?

Since the devil's mandate is to steal, kill and destroy. Everything he is ready to give to you must fulfill his agenda, so, you have to kill, or cheat or suppress or lie to get it.

I laugh at people who keep comparing the western world with Africa. The highest level of witchcraft takes place out there, it's all covered up.

Pray you don't come under demonic attack. That you haven't experienced it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We are living by the grace of God both the good and the bad.

Jesus Christ rules over all forces of the universe. Make Him your Lord today. Shalom

ejisconotension:
Please be Mindful of your comments. Satguru Maharaj Ji is the holiest being to ever walk the planet. Sins against the holy spirit are not forgiveable. Do not let your ignorance influence your actions. Even the bible says you should not Judge. Do not mingle yourself with phenomena beyond your understanding, that way, you can be free from sin. Satguru Maharaj Ji has rescued people from death, traps, sickness and all form of afflictions. Just because you don't know or refuse to appreciate his deeds and make incriminating comments makes you a coward, an ungrateful soul. Lets continue to appreciate Satguru Maharaj Ji for His role in the stability of Nations and declaration of Nigeria as a no war zone.

It amazes me to see men defending the indefensible.

Tell that man to fear God and repent! Else, hell awaits him. What bible are you quoting exactly, is it the same Holy Bible I know? I doubt it, otherwise you wouldn't be saying the things you're saying.

God came down in the person of His son Jesus Christ to redeem mankind. After Jesus Christ death and resurrection, He went back to heaven and promised to come back again, only this time it will be loud, open powerful and extremely glorious. So, who is this fellow and where does he come from. Who mandated him? Look at this man. He didn't say he's an angel, but said He's the very God. Unlike Jesus who came in the form of man. What form is this mortal existing?

I can't imagine God in His fullness contained in planet earth. Is an impossibility!. Tell that man to stop belittling my God, he obviously doesn't know how big the Lord God is to say he is now the very God in total existence.

Guru Marahji is a motal man not God. He will surely die one day. Let no man be deceived by this man. Let not his magic com miracles fool anybody.

Jesus christ is Lord over all.