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TerryCarr: Brazil or Madagascar

It's the same ...

Excell50: i see no reason why a xtian faithfull shuld acknowledge same sex marriage...offcourse i no islam doesn't either, so u can see reason why mr barrack hussein obama is not a christian by belief.

Nor are there reasons to not recognize same-sex marriages.
Let's see. There were presidents considered good Christians, who declared war, wiped out villages, allowed torture and rape.
What's wrong with Obama?
I believe that the Communists and Satanists are doing their job against him.

SmoothCrim: You sound like a jealous emasculated Nigerian man!!
Ghanaian team
https://www.ghanasoccernet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/ghana-team-reuters_1671750i.jpg

Just looking at it randomly it is not even close... Ghana wins!! when you mix the class and proper way of speaking Ghana wins by a huge margin!!

Boko, stop talking tough!

Excuse you.
I just gave my opinion. I do not disrespect you.
But I've noticed their aggressiveness and lack of education, so I will answer the following:
I am not African, but I'm URUGUAYAN
This is precisely why I would not humiliate him with some comments.
But you wanted ... I invite you to see this BEAUTIFUL goalkeeper Gahnes, hugging the right post ... (I'm told they have not yet been loosed from that post. Excuse my irony ... guess those rough guys are still crying after this humiliation in the last penalty.
Loco Abreu ... and Ghana out!!
If there is a gelding here is you and the goalkeeper of ...
Enjoy yourself, as the Fool Abreu enjoyed!
They are still crying in Ghana?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnwL6AobhsM

Hahahaha!

tobechi20: I am not a gay@ptolemus

Mmmhhhh sure?
Consult you to a psychologist. There is nothing worse than repressed desires.
Good luck in therapy!

Mr_Anony: Well, I don't quite think I get where you are getting at but the point I was making to emofine is that the status of women in polytheist societies isn't much different from the status of women in monotheist societies.
I can't see a direct link between the type of theism practiced and gender equality. I am not arguing on whether any type is particularly oppressive to women or not. The example of nuns was used within this context.
Please do well to understand what the talk is about before butting in. Thanks

Dear friend.
I'm not ramming, if so understood you, I apologize.
I am speaking of religious structures, rather than the social. I do not think the religious structure of society is reflected strongly in the social. For example (and no offense) Islam, Christianity and Judaism are monotheistic, but social structures are very different among the three.
As for what happens in a polytheistic society ... (in terms of social, not religious) is very difficult to assess. I think overall polytheism goddess gives the degree of any woman, and that could have an impact on the social ... but that's part of a course ...
My previous comments concerned the asituación of women from the religious point of view.
I send a warm hug, and I reiterate that I am not butting ....

pdone: Even our pastors, reverends, evans, etc don't help matters. They also seem to encourage laziness and sometimes flag being reach as a bad thing. They don't encourage the youth the importance of hardwork and wealth.

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But that is what you want?
You claim that a shepherd, living without working, at the expense of the faithful and the tithe, drives people to honest work?
You can only teach honesty who is honest can only transmit work attitude who have these conditions.
Please! Such people just think economically, regardless of any moral or ethical issue.
Fight you to excel, but you do not expect a pastor to give you a sound advice.

Mr_Anony: Wow thanks David, just read the threads. There is really nothing new in Nairaland under the sun.

It is even funnier how those who claim to not believe are so quick to throw in their support for a religion they don't believe attempting to discredit another religion they equally don't believe.
It seems to me that they hate one myth so much that they will be happy to see another myth discredit it.

Lol, Kay 17 even called it "firm criticism". I laugh in Efik.

Yes, I think we're talking about a myth.
I have a slight discrepancy with the posing.
In my opinion, the MYTH (as you say) of Jesus Christ and the Catholic Church was founded with the Emperor Constantine, 250 years after the death of that Jew.

InesQor: And your signature makes this very evident.

Nothing to hide.
But I clarify that I am not an atheist.
Perhaps you think my signature says something that is false?
Possibly that my signature is missing, the human cost had that Bible.
Or are you people who think that slavery came to civilize free?
Come on!

alienvirus: Leviticus 26:29
You will eat the flesh of your
sons and the flesh of your
daughters.
Deuteronomy 28:53
Because of the suffering that your
enemy will inflict on you during
the siege, you will eat the fruit
of the womb, the flesh of the sons
and daughters the LORD your God
has given you.
Deuteronomy 28:56-57
The most gentle and sensitive
woman among you?so sensitive and
gentle that she would not venture
to touch the ground with the sole
of her foot?will begrudge the
husband she loves and her own son
or daughter the afterbirth from
her womb and the children she
bears. For she intends to eat them
secretly during the siege and in
the distress that your enemy will
inflict on you in your cities.
2 Kings 6:29
So we cooked my son and ate him.
The next day I said to her, 'Give
up your son so we may eat him,'
but she had hidden him."
Jeremiah 19:9
I will make them eat the flesh of
their sons and daughters, and they
will eat one another's flesh
during the stress of the siege
imposed on them by the enemies who
seek their lives.'
Lamentations 2:20
"Look, O LORD, and consider: Whom
have you ever treated like this?
Should women eat their offspring,
the children they have cared for?
Should priest and prophet be
killed in the sanctuary of the
Lord?
Lamentations 4:10
With their own hands compassionate
women have cooked their own
children, who became their food
when my people were destroyed.
Ezekiel 5:10
Therefore in your midst fathers
will eat their children, and
children will eat their fathers. I
will inflict punishment on you and
will scatter all your survivors to
the winds.

In my previous post, I explain about the worst kind of slavery:
Mental slavery.

odumchi: You might be talking about Ijebu-Igbo, Igbo-Ora, or other Yoruba groups with the word 'Igbo'. The Igbo that we are discussing here is different from the one you're referring to.

Possibly my error is this. The information came to me, said that Obatala was King of the Igbo, but I understand that it may be a similarity in the names of cities. Your intervention clarifies my question. I am very grateful, and I ask you apologize for the error.
Thank you for your tolerance of my mistakes ... I understand that there are some ethnic rivalries, but I do not I echo them. It has been a mistake, but never see in my someone to feed the fire of the rivalry.

@crayola1 and @Chinenye
Thank you very much for your patience and my apologies for unintentionally distort the thread.
I appreciate you all, dear friends!

First, I am a man, and do not understand male beauty (yes of female beauty).
I never saw a Ghanaian, just remember seeing them when Ghana faced Uruguay in World Cup 2010 (South Africa) and ... actually in my opinion ... I have seldom seen men more ugly than Ghanaians.
But it's a personal opinion, of course!

Well, just see this thread ...
Since most of you know me. I was born and I live in Montevideo, Uruguay (South America). I spent years of my life studying various African traditions, particularly the Yoruba.
My intention in the forum is to exchange information, which enriches us all.
I do not speak English, I use a translator, so please excuse my mistakes you know writing.
I'm at your orders for everything they deem necessary.
My respectful greetings to all!

Andre Uweh: There were Ndigbo who were resettled n Lagos and this group helped with the propagation of xtianity in Igboland. Trust me, not only Yorubas were resettled in Lagos.

Excellent thread.
I live in Uruguay, Brazil's neighbor.
As far as I studied various African groups (without regard to ethnicity) were offset by the return to Africa.
Not only the Yoruba. The African population of Brazil born in times of slavery, was vast: One group that reached the end of slavery (shortly before abolition) were the Yoruba, but before other groups had been established (Angola, Fanti, Ashanti , Mina, and were called-). I do not know African cities in which each ethnic group was established.
Yoruba groups came to America with their traditions still intact, and the abolition occur promptly, managed to maintain their traditions in a more orderly than other ethnic groups. But I insist, repatriation to Africa comprised various ethnic groups. This results in a cultural exchange back and forth, as in Africa had been wiped out entire villages, and only recovered some of their traditions with the return of those repatriated. This, despite being very painful, contributed to the mutual cultural enrichment.
London2lasgidi I congratulate for the excellent thread, and the other brothers for the remarkable level!
My respects to all!

InesQor: Whatever helps you sleep at night, dawg

Thank God, I rest well at night.
I have to think about changing the Bible, or change the word of God. I am at peace with myself, with the universe, and the sex I have.
This is no small thing ...

Mr_Anony: Ok now i think I am getting your position somewhat. You are not really talking about secular equality but spiritual equality as evidenced by the roles a priestess might have in a polytheist system.
My answer still remains that it doesn't follow because in Monotheist systems there are also cases of prophetesses who would have spiritual authority over the males in the same way a priestess would.
I compared polytheist priestesses to nuns in the catholic system because for instance a polytheist system would involve a set of women dedicated as priestesses to a particular deity from which one might rise to high priestess.
In the same manner in catholicism; a set of women are dedicated to a patron saint as nuns from which one might rise to supreme mother.

So I don't see how polytheism enables equality as opposed to monotheism.

estimate:
Excuse you.
But you are talking about equality in a system of "nuns"? That is the most discriminant that can serve as an example!
If we assume that a creed is separate men from women, only on grounds of sex ... this is a religion utterly discriminatory. The priests are preparing for the priesthood, the nuns never be priests say Mass, to communicate ... Why? simply for being women.

It is not here to mark exceptions: cases exepcional but generalities.
Let's see: in Catholicism there is a woman priest? There is the possibility of a female pope?
Beyond that some fools do it is right that there is a woman pastor?
A woman can teach Torah in Jewish worship?
My respects

tintingz: now see why it's to be called UNITED STATE OF AMERICA and tell me if am wrong:
The fifty U.S states have taken their names from a wide variety of languages. The names of 24 states derive from indigenous languages of the Americas and one from Hawaiian: eight come from Algonquian languages, seven from Siouan languages(one of those by way ofIllinois, an Algonquian language), three from Iroquoian languages, one from aUto-Aztecan language , and five from other Native American languages.Twenty-two other state names derive from European languages: seven come from Latin(mostly from Latinate forms of English personal names), five come from , Spanish(and one more from an Indigenous language by way of Spanish), and four come from French(one of those by way of English). The etymologies of six states are disputed or unclear: Arizona, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Oregon, and Rhode Island (in the table below, those states have one row for each potential source language or meaning). Of the fifty states, eleven are named in honor of an individual. Of those eleven, seven are named in honor of kings and queens: the two Carolinas, the two Virginias, Maryland, Louisiana and Georgia. Only one is named after a president of the United States.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_name_etymologies
please know more about U.S.

Let's see.
1. You say that Islam is the major religion in America.
2. I tell him I do not know what is happening in USA, but in AMERICA (three continents) Islam is virtually unknown.
3. You are offended, and says that America and the United States of America is the same.
4. I intend to explain to you that something is the United States of America and another is AMERICA.
Let's see.
United States of America, is part of America (North America) but not all America (thank god)
USA is a country that exists in North America, and borders with Canada and Mexico.
America is a continent composed of North America, South America and Central America.
I hope I have explained.
Regardless of our faiths, we are friends, ok?
A hug.

Arabs arrived and enslaved Africa.
Europeans arrived and enslaved Africa.
The "slave ships" traveled full, it was a great business!
Then, the Arabs and Europeans told us that all we had was bad.
It was bad our culture, our traditions, our gods and our language.
They imposed on us their culture, their traditions, their gods and languages ​​...
Everything we had was bad, our ancestors were wrong!.
But today, Africa has the highest infant mortality rate, the highest percentage of people infected with AIDS, the highest percentage of malnutrition, the largest number of people below the poverty level ...
Africa is today the world's least developed continent
But today, the gods lead us to commit acts like these ...
Fortunately we have come a long way ... we are under the protection of Jesus Christ and Allah ...

The legacy of Arab and European slavers.
Hundreds of years enslaved Africa ... slavery is abolished, but slavery of thought apparently not.
The slaveholders have been very smart ... first enslaved bodies, then, left slaves minds.
This is the love and kindness they profess Christianity and Islam.
That woman, before being Christian (or Muslim) is a human being, a mother, a daughter) ... by god! end with the fanaticism that has left Africa as the world's least developed continent.
Damn foreign gods, who feed on African blood!

Mother Africa, awake!

InesQor: I believe to get the best out of the Bible, we need to look at it the way the Jews did. The Bible contains literal as well as allegorical contents, and the impression it leaves on you when you encounter it, is what matters most. As 2 Corinthians 3:6 says, the letter kills and the Spirit gives life.

If you want to convince us that there are relevant verses subjugating women, refer us to any teachings of Christ on the matter; which to me is where true Christianity (by definition) is found.

In all your posts you say that you accept the Bible (Word of God) that he favors you. Those passages that touch minimally rights of women, (as you) should be ignored.
Sorry, you are a Christian "selective". You should invent a new religion itself. Self proclaim pastor, present the foundations of a new religion in which women do what they want, regardless of the Word of God ...
And do not forget to collect the tithe ...
It is unfortunate that people like you, who break all the laws of God, speak of Satan as the enemy ...
You and he are partners.
My respects.

Regrettable.
I think of families and children.

Thousands of years of fighting, and god has not been able to overcome Satan.
This clearly shows who has more power.
Or Satan is more powerful than god or that god is extremely weak.
There can be no other opinion, but are cited all the passages of the Bible.

My respects.

plaetton: So there is a clearly difference, in ancient cultures between corn and bread gods,gods that provided knowledge and tools for human progress, and debt and death gods, gods that demanded endless debt sacrifices and punished with death.


my 2 cents

Dear friend:
Your contribution is excellent.
I also think that there are strong points of contact.
But his brilliant exposition, I left a doubt.
What would be the gods of corn and bread, and what the gods of death?
For in both cults are talking about sacrifices, right?
Thank you very much for his remarkable intervention (which is worth more than 2 cents. Lol).
My fraternal greeting!

isale_gan2: Brother Ptolomeus,

I came across this eye-opening video about traditional Yoruba religion a year ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS_IBMQhx5A

I was recently re-watching it and showing to some friends on how it reminds me of Muslim prayer. I hope you find it educative about Yoruba religion. I plan to view more of the poster's videos on YouTube.

Also, I saw that this Cultural thread of yours is now in the Tribalistic (sub-Politics) section, after a notorious hateful tribalist posted on it. If you didn't originally create it in that section, I suggest you protest to the moderators, OAM4j (Politics) and Odumchi (Culture) to move it back to Culture section.
https://www.nairaland.com/934908/yoruba-people-considered-arrogant

Dear brother.
Thanks for the input. I would like to make some clarifications.
1. The spirit of the thread is to compare the sacrifices of Jewish worship with African traditional religion.
2. The video shows a syncretic mixture repugnant to Islam and Christianity. But I would not call that "traditional religion". I imagine there are many crazy people in Nigeria (there are also in Uruguay). I do not identify this as "traditional religion".
3. In the cultural section, I opened the thread on the Yoruba, without the slightest intention of attacking anyone. I am a foreigner, respect for all ethnic groups, and I echo no hatred. I regret that a fanatic has been used my thread to attack . I am unable to disrespect anyone.
Well ... let's hope that contributions to the topic of this thread.
Anyway, thank you very much for your kindness!

Someone opens a thread with a stupid pose, and we all ended up talking about the original sin, of Matthew 10.12, what is sin and what is temptation.
I wonder who the crazy ...
@ tobechi20: A tip. If you hate women so much, if you consider that they are Satan himself, why do not you kill them all? That would be a good solution.
It would be a world of gay and straight ... I guess you would be happy! Surely compliment your pastor what you and your god would promise the sky, right?
It would also be a wonderful way to free you.
I promise to visit him in prison, and bring the gift of a calendar with se.xy girls.
I'm out of this thread.

Again I ask a question that has not responded.


According to Yoruba mythology, when Oduduwa founded the city of Ife, Oduduwa began Orishanla disputes with the King (Obi) of the Igbo. These conflicts led to repeated clashes between the two armies. These wars, which end with the victory of Oduduwa, is considered by many historians as a recreation of what was the struggle of both kingdoms Igbo and Ife for supremacy.
The ceremonies are conducted in Ile Ife Orishanla in commemoration of these historical events.
Initially, these ceremonies lasted nine days, but now reduced to five days a week Yoruba according to four days, then the ceremonies begin and end on the day consecrated to Orishanla.

The main temple was Egigbo Oguiyán. His name is a contraction of the phrase "je Iyan Orissa Orisajiyán or Orisaguiyán and that the name is related to the option of eating inhame (Iyan).

For its part, the name of Obatala (Oba t'ala) means king of white cloth.

Here's my question:

Igbo and Yoruba have a different worldview, a different religion. But that relationship-Obatala Oduduwa imply a relationship.
This is a historical fact?
Actually there were Yoruba-Igbo those wars?
How is it that the King of Igbo Orisa belongs to the Yoruba, and is worshiped by the Igbo?
Someone can write on this subject?

I sincerely hope that no one is offended, because my intention is not that.
I tried to give the slightest hint of a theme that is very large and complex, so ask the brothers to make more contributions, and if there is a discrepancy in what I have explained, I ask all the manifest, as exchange always reflects the wisdom.
Is that the purpose of the forum, exchange of knowledge and healthy discussion.
I hope my comment useful to you.
Regards to all.

ifyalways: Don't ask me oh. Lol
According to Michelins post, the sky is big enough for all birds to fly, dance and shyte.

Only a woman can say something so beautiful, poetic, and also true. Thank you for your kindness.

I insist that these threads of "the beauty of the Andalusian woman" are not part of the cultural section. I do not quite understand the purpose. But in turn, as I already said, they have accepted. Vox populi, vox dei!.
In another order, I think it would be very valuable for increasing the real cultural issues, and that depends on ourselves, not the moderators or anyone in particular.
Brothers, let us strive on open threads historical, cultural ... issues that are transcendent ... It should not matter to us if the thread is successful or not ... maybe one day the item was bailed. Also make the effort to support those who open this type of cultural threads, we will intervene, even with a phrase ...
Let the positive: I have seen wonderful yarns, lecturing on history, traditions, general culture ... we support them!
I think the responsibility more is not of the moderators , nor from a fellow who "deviates a bit" of the central themes.
It's in ourselves!
Perhaps for many of you, open a thread on the old traditions Hausa, Yoruba, Igbo ... is unimportant. For me it is fundamental. But we who do try to be a wonderful tool forum for friendly exchange.
Another important issue is that of ethnic rivalries.
If we analyze, understand that beautiful and deep threads are marred by rivalries that contribute nothing to the essence of the pose. It is logical that if someone is hurt on your susceptibility, mark their difference, but it is not logical that an interesting thread degenerates into a discussion about whether a group is inferior to another.
Thank you all for the beautiful friendship that I offer, thanks for the love and accept myself.
I respect and love you all!

Right.
I have nothing against homosexuals.
You have every right to manifest, but honestly, it seems to me somewhat exaggerated aggressive and your hatred of women.
Do not forget that you were born a woman ... and that regardless of your sex.ual choice (against which I have nothing) a woman is a human being and deserves respect.
Beyond your sex.ual orientation, you do not have mother?
Sorry, it's just my opinion.

emöfine2: Ptolomeus, intriguing post.

Why intriguing, dear friend? What is the doubt?

frosbel: You still cannot respond, as is characteristic of you , you turn to laughing even when you do not mean it

Good luck to you and your Arabic masters !

Pfffffffff Fros, so do not get angry ...
I'm not Islamic, but I think that Islam is a religion of terror. No dramaticemos ...
That statement is like saying that all Christians are thieves, because there are pastors who paid tithing! or that all Christians are pedophiles ... That would be unfair Fros ... We all know that all religions are good and bad people. No religion is to blame for what some crazy.
Truth?
We ... up that spirit. Calm down ...
Drink a good palm wine and you pull yourself together.

frosbel: 1. Muslims chant the Quran in Arabic , day and night, without understanding a single word , and then they follow follow their Imams who are equally as confused.

2. It is a known fact that the Muslim population is growing the most in Prisons where we have some of the most violent beings , ready to committ their lives for Jihad at the next heart beat

Frosbel beloved friend of the soul!
Whenever I have to disagree with you? Why?
First things first (said Jack)

1. The Islamists chant the Koran in Arabic and do not understand what they say
Christians hear and read the Bible and not understand anything he says ... It's the same! Christians read a translated version (badly translated), and do not differentiate a parable of a historic ...
Then?

2. Let Fros ... you know that not all Islamists are murderers ...
Here in Uruguay there is practically no Islam, but we know that not all of Al Qaeda ... Let's be fair ...
As for the prisons ... I think any normal person in overview in the world (regardless of their belief) should repudiate the existence of Guantanamo.

I do not understand why Christian and Islamic fight ... In short both the former enslaved African, and currently still maintain the lowest level of development.
I mean ... accomplish their objective.

Well, come on Fros! great big hug and affectionate of your Uruguayan friend ....

Africaman: Ptolomeus, it was a pleasure.
Here is a link to a Yoruba -> Portuguese dictionary, I think you speak spanish, but you might find it useful still.
Here is the link: http://glosbe.com/pt/yo/

For example, type in the Yoruba word for a house, "ile", it will produce the Portuguese translation. I hope you find it useful too.

Odabo.

Dear friend!
The pleasure is mine!
I speak Spanish, but I also speak Portuguese!
Their contribution is really great ... This solves a long search I!
Dear friend ... believe me I appreciate very much your kindness!
Thank you.
You can count on me for everything that is necessary!
Do you have a friend in Uruguay!
A big hug!